Being a straight tranny sucks.
>get bullied/ostracized for being "gay" as a kid
>seen as complicit in patriarchy
>not the cool, sexy, or trendy kind of tranny
>no one with standards (women) interested
>only men with no better options interested
>impossible to make male friends
>sexuality inherently degrading
>can't ever have kids
>no community (80% of MtFs like women and hate straight MtFs)

>>40148411 (OP)
time to start avatarfagging nanika instead

>>40148423
Do you not understand the concept of reaction images.

>>40148411 (OP)
i think a good chunk of thats just you, anon. community stuff does suck tho, at least im bi for fellow trannies to some extent so its not so bad.

>>40148411 (OP)
I don't understand what problem you could have with your sexual preferences. You'll never be better off than with a man, obviously those who will treat you best are those who don't have a toxic masculinity complex. What do you expect from life? Don't you realize that men will never be real friends with a woman because they'll always want to fuck her. Accept that and fulfill your moral obligations.

>>40148453
or do i understand that you're the same bitter twink who's been posting thinly-veiled on this board for at least the past week, and you just remembered to take your flag off this time?

>>40148491
So what's wrong with me then?

>>40148512
My life would be easier and better if I liked women. I'd be spared so much suffering and I'd be accepted and have a community instead of being completely alone except for my bf.

>>40148516
Take your meds.

>>40148411 (OP)
get a girlfriend then

>>40148552
hey, edward padded the audience and edited the tapes, heavily. at least my cold reading is really cold

>>40148411 (OP)
>80% of MtFs like women and hate straight MtFs
Not true but i hope it would be

>>40148557
I can't. Did you not read the OP? Women, who have standards and are selective, aren't interested in me. I'm a low value male. Only men, who would anything that moves. Not even gay men wanted me

>>40148582
Sorry it's at least 60%, not 80%
https://web.archive.org/web/20160305015525/http://www.transequality.org/issues/resources/national-transgender-discrimination-survey-full-report

>>40148411 (OP)
I'm transbian, but also got bullied and ostracized for being gay. Even though I didn't even like men. People mistook me for gay boy, when actually it was tranny.

>>40148552
you just arent treating yourself right with respect to men, or youre wanting the wrong men, for one. a tranny should be able to avoid a ton of het issues by dating bi men.

sex isnt inherently degrading, fix your sex life.

stop wanting kids.

stop wanting to be cool and sexy, make your peace with being you.

patriarchy is a myopic understanding of sex dynamics from the view of people who were first starting to understand them in a hostile light, you can do better than patriarchy feminism for a worldview in 2025.

weaponise your childhood memories. youve got a little boy to get revenge for, what kind of mother would you be if you didnt keep a dagger on hand for those who hurt him?

Why do you keep making these threads? Do you get some satisfaction from pretending like AGP transbians aren't hated? Straight trans women get more acceptance in society so most trannies try to date men, if they can.

>>40148611
I'm dating a straight man right now, so sorry I guess.

Sex is inherently degrading because I don't want a vagene (they're gross) but I'm a man who is sexually submissive. It's inherently degrading to want to be sodomized and to have masochistic desires fulfilled.

What's good about being me? Sure, I pass, but I'm permanently socially crippled and I can't have babies. I can't just not want that, that's how I'm wired up.

>>40148625
>>40148625
I'm not pretending like they're not hated -- all trans women are. But at least transbians have their own community and each other. I get jack. My own family thinks I'm a self hating gay man and tried to get me to quit hormones harder than they did my sister opioids. Even the most transphobic parent isn't going to be mad their tranny daughter is dating women.

>>40148659
AGP "community" is just fetish-fueled gooning and grooming with abusive tendencies. Stop pretending like you don't know this already. If you really wanted that life you could jump into a polycule and have all the tranny friends you wanted.

>>40148411 (OP)
no you don't. go get a bf and live a normal life with you're gf's you have way more actual community than us freaks.

>>40148672
What part of "women aren't attracted to me and I'm not attracted to them" so you not understand. Even outside of sexual stuff, transbians tend to have big interest overlap. I have nothing in common with them, speedrunning and Minecraft and programming and video essays don't interest me

>>40148677
I have a bf and try to live normally but that's hard when you don't have a social foundation or any platonic support system

>>40148654
>Sex is inherently degrading because I don't want a vagene (they're gross) but I'm a man who is sexually submissive. It's inherently degrading to want to be sodomized and to have masochistic desires fulfilled.
this is just neurotic. plenty of people have gay sex without feeling ashamed of it.

for me, i know why im like this, i know how i got here, and i know who i hate as a result. this little loathing can do a lot for you, if you mother it enough.

>>40148686
I understand just fine. You don't actually want to be a transbian you are already getting off on pretending that you do.

>>40148691
>plenty of people have gay sex without feeling ashamed of it.
I wish I was them, but I'm me. It's fine and I don't think about it in the moment, but the rest of the time it's nightmarish to think about.

>>40148694
I hate people who refuse to give the benefit of the doubt like this. No you could t possibly be suffering. Too farfetched. I'm sorry my life really is this hellish. I've always hated my sexuality from the time it first manifested until now and this isn't helping

>>40148703
im really sorry, anon. i cant offer you any other advice than to spend some time alone in your living room, burn incense, and recall your childhood self. try to personify him in imagination, offer a kind of oath of fidelity to him as his mother, and promise always to kep him in your heart. if you can live as his mother, that may tie some things together for you.

>>40148686
so then find cis women to be friends with???

>>40148703
You are being obnoxious on purpose by making it about you not being a transbian instead of addressing your actual issues of lacking a support network (you know this already retard)

>>40148737
Almost like those things are connected and I would have support, I wouldn't have lost all my friends for being a fag if I wasn't a fag, and I could be accepted in the trans community (mostly lesbians or bi) if I were into women. Almost like my sexuality is directly related to support or lack thereof.

>>40148736
>Just invade women's spaces bro
>Just be the awkward tranny they have to abide out of political correctness dude

>>40148781
>Almost like those things are connected
They aren't. So you seriously believe transbian grooming networks are in any way supportive? Could it be you are really so ignorant? You should read what some of the victims have to say about being groomed by transbians. They get used and scarred for life then left to rot. That's much worse than being a lonely straight tranny with a bf.

>>40148835
>So you seriously believe transbian grooming networks are in any way supportive?
That's an egregious and overly negative way to characterize them. There are plenty of platonic settings and support groups dominated by gynephilic trans women without sex involved. And yes, having IRL trans women to support you, or even cis people who don't just view you as a gross faggot, is better than no one wanting anything to do with you

>>40148844
>There are plenty of platonic settings and support groups dominated by gynephilic trans women without sex involved
cap

>>40148857
I've tried going to them and I was the odd Man (because I'm not a woman because I only like men. Just a gay man) out. Has nothing in common with any of them at all

straight trans mostly just stay with their bfs and rarely reach out to other straight mtfs, so i can relate to the community aspect.
like i like writing and seeing the experience of other gay men or amabs with gd that took hrt but i dont think i would want to meet them irl and its prolly vice versa lol

>>40148864
Because they were just looking for fresh meat to fuck. I can hardly believe how dedicated you are to playing this stupid charade when the answer is right in front of you

>>40148865
>straight trans mostly just stay with their bfs
Is there any empirical evidence of this? Because if this was widespread I'd feel better about being isolated IRL and only talking to two straight trannies online

>>40148781
you're straight you're not "invading" women's spaces that's only for keeping out creepy men. also try entering in lesbian spaces as an unpassing transbain if you think the former is uncomfortable.

>>40148893
>you're straight you're not "invading" women's spaces that's only for keeping out creepy men
How is a self-hating gay man who takes drugs because he doesn't want to be gay THAT much not creepy

>>40148886
i dont even talk with one, like, i have 3 transbians i "semi" regularlly talk to, but like once a year or smth
meanwhile, i met 1 other straight trans at a queer bar, had a bf too, super sweet and she said she had the same issues when we were talking about how lonely we were in terms of friends.

like dont get me wrong, i dont want to be totally alone, but if i had to choose, i would rather have a gay friend than a straight mtf

>>40148920
So that's just an anecdote and not meaningful. It's over for me

>>40148937
just ask your 2 online straight trans friends what their experience is
i mean based on this >>40148600
just purely by numbers, theres less straight transwomen to be friends with

>>40148952
The two I know have articulated similar sentiments but that's nor really statistically meaningful .

>>40148905
because you're not attracted to them and can gossip about men and that's all they really care about? no one actually cares that much about you're personal baggage.

>>40149068
How shallow do you think women are

>>40148552
>My life would be easier and better if I liked women. I'd be spared so much suffering and I'd be accepted and have a community instead of being completely alone except for my bf.
No it wouldn't you'd be just as lonely, except then you wouldn't even have the option of seeking a bf, you'd be a transbian femcel who's unhappy and suicidal.

>>40150542
Every transbian I run into has had at least one gf and has a circle of trans friends. I have no one who even pretends to like me unless they think I'll suck their dick

>>40150551
>Every transbian I run into has had at least one gf and has a circle of trans friends.
I don't have any of that and I'm a transbian.

>>40148677
as a passing tranny with a bf it can still be pretty isolating and lonely. ive actually built up a huge inferiority complex from being the only tranny in a group of cis people for a year. that's part of why i use this board, i think occasionally it's good to talk to people with that common experience. and it's def hard to do that as a straight tranny especially as one who doesn't almost exclusively wanna talk about sex

>>40150575
if you are not into getting raped and abused then being a transbian can be lonely too

>>40150577
Transbians are universally hated and seen as predators or people with dubious motives, you straight trannies can tap into the greatest most infinite source of validation that's male attention, we transbians can't rely on external validation (because most women don't actually want us), so we're all miserable and creating mental copes 24/7 to not rope.

>>40150625
im sorry :(

>>40150625
Every straight tranny knows this already. OP knows this. They just like being sadistic and pretending otherwise.

>>40150661
it's very hard to know what it's like to be someone else. im sure there are parts of being a straight tranny that suck that you haven't thought of. we should all be sympathetic too each other we're all trannies

>>40150655
We also tend to transition later because all of society tells us that if we like women then we're men, that it's an inherently masculine thing to like women, and we internalize this so deeply that many of us even years deep into transition will still feel insecure.

>>40150713
>we should all be sympathetic too each other
>we are all trannies
That's precisely why we can't let our sympathy get in the way of our crab-bucketing. We are in competition for social validation. Straight trannies will continue to use transbians as rhetorical devices and punching bags for your sadistic tendencies. I'd rather you be honest about it, but I know the denial is part of it.

>>40150713
>im sure there are parts of being a straight tranny that suck that you haven't thought of.
Yeah, I know, there's a not-insignificant chance of getting murdered after sexual intercourse, preyed on by creeps, being rejected for long term commitment or even being treated as a "dirty secret", being a victim of sexual abuse and fetishization, and so on, still, being a transbian is not a happy experience.

>>40150728
that makes sense, i think that comphet hurts both of us but definitely you all more. it's always hard to accept something that feels so inherently masculine, but i don't see it that way.
>>40150748
i think a lot of tranny crab bucketing gets sadistic, i dont think it's just straight trannies that do it. but we do do it a lot and i definitely have used rhetoric like that in the past. im sorry. i do think that solidarity is the only way forward but i also understand how hard it is to do that when people are actively treating you like shit

>>40150811
>i dont think it's just straight trannies that do it
didn't say that. Actually ironic you get defensive about this cuz all my other posts itt are about how abusive transbians are
>solidarity
If you want solidarity join a political movement. I don't think tranny shit is it. We are all just trying to get some satisfaction out of life while being incongruent with out birth sex. There is nothing more to it.

>>40148411 (OP)
>Transbian
>cool, trendy, sexy
LARP

>>40150625
>>40150661
Male attention is worthless and often scary
Men would literally hump a tree if it wore a skirt. There's nothing glamorous about male attention, and it's even dangerous at times too.

Women are choosy. Womens' interest, validation from them does matter -- but men no.

>>40150855
i dont think being a tranny is political either but i think it would be really really dumb if all the cancer patients were fighting each other while the hospital board is getting ready to pull oncology funding

>>40150872
Look at any twitter transbian and there's a 25% chance she has an OF. Every one of them that isn't a hon (so as long as they trooned before 30) is conventionally attractive and fashionable.

>>40148411 (OP)
>no community (80% of MtFs like women and hate straight MtFs)
you're better off without them nonna, most transbians are creepy men with a fetish for crossdressing who want to prey on younger and more impressionable trannies and add them to their polycule. you being straight keeps them away. there is no "trans community", always remember that

>>40150875
Your preference for women's attention is kinda AGP malebrain coded ngl
They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Male attention is universalizing as you say. So if a man fucks you it's like being confirmed desirability in the eyes of every man.
Women are choosy, but their particular interest are irrelevant to everyone except themselves unless they are also being lusted after by men. So being liked by an unattractive woman (let's be honest transbians and lesbians who are into trannies aren't attractive) is worthless unless you also like her back.

>>40150895
How am I any better, just seeing a creepy crossdressing self hating gay man who wants straight men? At least they're attractive and sociable or interesting, I'm just a degenerate

>>40150920
No, I just internalized male standards because I got told I was a man by my family a lot.
Transbians are often conventionally attractive so even if what you say is true, it's a moot point.

>>40150875
>Male attention is worthless and often scary
If it's worthless then why are straight trannies addicted to it? Having access to quick attention is better than not getting any attention (transbians can get attention, but it's usually negative, or it takes a lifetime's work), like I've said, transbians are frying their brains creating copes to not suicide or succumb under the weight of undesirability, no attention, no validation, and emotional and sexual deprivation, we have to build it all on our own and it's often just too much, that's why we rope in such large numbers.

>>40150889
having an OF is no longer cool sexy or trendy

>>40150957
>Transbians are often conventionally attractive
I don't think so but for the sake of argument since you will insist they are attractive, the most attractive transbians are at best equal to low tier huss dolls. The luckiest of AGP luckshits is like finn and icky tier.

>>40150958
>If it's worthless then why are straight trannies addicted to it?
Because it's the only validation a lot of them have ever gotten. To a starving child even processed or stale slop would be delicious.

Transbians get plenty of attention from other trans women and most have dated at least one woman (or had sex with one) before trooning. I'm just not seeing it and I think this is where we disagree, sorry

>>40150970
It shows they're conventionally attractive. I couldn't do an OF even if I wanted to

>>40150997
There's plenty of other ones, like Newposter. And not every HSTS is a doll or especially attractive either, keep in mind they're more disproportionate due to etiological differences

>>40148411 (OP)
being a transbian is similar to dating as a straight trans woman, the vast majority of transbians suck, but the ones who dont are great. finding one who
>isnt a neet
>isnt extremely mentally ill
>isnt horrible with boundaries
>will top you
>wont make you the man of the relationship
is maybe 1 in 100 of them. similar rates as to decent men who will date us
t. bi

>>40151177
Are you saying that HSTS are ugly hons? Can you go more into detail about that?

>>40152793
I'm not saying that, I don't think that's true for either group. But people act like all HSTS' are goddesses when they're not all this impossible ideal at all

>>40152825
well if you are feeling like an evil and ugly faggot that's because you are

>>40152837
I'm always saying this.

>>40148411 (OP)
>Being a straight tranny sucks.
Being any kind of tranny sucks
>>get bullied/ostracized for being "gay" as a kid
Transbians went through the same, ironically
>>seen as complicit in patriarchy
Lmao
>>not the cool, sexy, or trendy kind of tranny
You don't actually believe this
>>no one with standards (women) interested
>>only men with no better options interested
That's true sucks for you, men are on average disgusting troglodytes. Some of them are nice though, you gotta be picky
>>impossible to make male friends
Not true
>>sexuality inherently degrading
You just have issues
>>can't ever have kids
Life is better without them anyway until you're old
>>no community (80% of MtFs like women and hate straight MtFs)
You are literally posting this to a teannt community and this hsts-transbian imaginary war doesn't exist outside this schizo board

>>40150449
you're being retarded there is no reason why you cant make friends with cis women unless they are transphobic as hell or there is something else wrong with you. but if thats the case what makes you think transbians are going to be any different?

>>40148453
It's like hand talking or facial expressions

>>40154549
You really are retarded