name famous gay men from history who had confirmed, public, open (not just rumored) male partners AND name their partners, from 100+ years ago only

>>40155908 (OP)
nero, titus, domitian, esp hadrian, uhh lots more that i cant think of right now. romans were faggots

>>40155935
having male lovers ≠ having open male partners
romans did not marry other men
romans did not have public gay marriages

>>40155908 (OP)
Me

>>40156044
holy shit a ghost

>>40156055
no, i'm just 112 years old

>>40155908 (OP)
Henry of skalitz and Hans capon, checkmate

>>40155977
Nero publicly married a freedman

>>40155908 (OP)
skrillex

>>40156270
same age?
actually married? or got drunk and said "let's have a fake wedding"

>>40155908 (OP)
TOM CRUISE AND NICOLE KIDMAN

>>40156313
the library is open

Oh wait nvm it is 100 years ago
Romain tirtoff and Prince Nicholas Ourousoff

>>40155977
nero literally married a man

>>40156328
hello, where is the proofs

>>40155908 (OP)
>name famous gay men from history who had confirmed, public, open (not just rumored) male partners AND name their partners, from 100+ years ago only
Bonus points if their partners weren't either effeminate or underage

>>40156283
i don't know for sure ive only read Suetonius and you can't trust him on his own

>>40156337
nigger google

>>40156351
what was the husband's name?

>>40156357
Pythagoras

>>40156378
But I thought Pythagoras was trans?

>>40156396
you're thinking of sporus, and sporus was only incidentally trans if he was at all, he was just a forcefemmed eunuch

>>40156424
I feel like sometimes accusing a man of not having balls was meant as an insult, and not a historical fact.

>>40156491
roman eunuch slavery is extremely well documented

>>40156534
im not saying they didn't castrate their slaves, i'm saying records attesting that specific non-slaves were castrated should be treated with suspicion

>>40156546
sporus was a slave

>>40156578
Are you a slave?

>>40156595
no i am not

>>40156621
Then why are you castrated like a slave?

>>40156631
we're all like a slave in one way or another. what of it? they're people too.

>>40156651
most people aren't castrated, I don't think

>>40156678
true. that doesn't mean it's always morally wrong to be "castrated" (how are we defining that term btw)

>>40156736
in your mind is being castrated morally righetous?

>>40156764
Nta, but it is morally neutral, as are most things in the world.

>>40156764
i mean that depends on your interpretation of Matthew 19:12

no but i don't think it's morally righteous necessarily. it's just not always wrong. it's a case by case basis. ideally we work towards a standard of trans medicine where we will be able to smoothly replace rather than "castrate" but that's science fiction.
are we even castrated though? you never defined the term

>>40156353
why cant i just use regular google...

>>40155908 (OP)
Idk about your standards of "open" but proust and Oscar wilde are some of the most famous fags, there's probably lots more homo authors i dont know. Idr anything about mishima.

>>40156809
Oscar Wilde married a woman
I'm not talking about just any gays, but gays who were firmly openly partnered with men

>>40156268
Based
We have no evidence that Henry wasn't real

>>40158356
>evidence that
>wasn't real
huh

>>40158421
Jan Ptáček could have had a bastard blacksmith best friend who was also his secret lover
We would never know because nobody ever wrote about it not happening

>>40158449
Why didn't gays write more about their same sex partners?

>>40158463
Fear of punishment
Or illiteracy

>>40158486
Even rich gays?

>>40158490
Maybe just the ones with poorfag lovers

>>40158490
>rich people get away with everythang
poorfag thinking. the rich try to fuck each other over all the time climbing to the top, and knowing the other party is gay is prime blackmail material

>>40158633
who is blackmailing them?

>>40158642
Their political opponents
Little known fact but Jan Ptáček was blackmailed into switching sides because the wrong person found out about his gay blacksmith lover

>>40158646
do women ever blackmail gay men?

>>40158704
no, because this is a gay board and you should take your femdom fetish elsewhere

>>40158716
women are totally ok with gay men being gay, but for some reason they are basically invisible throughout history and mostly married women and women themselves were not involved in this???

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