>be me, boymoder
>decidedly not attracted to men's bodies
>strong failed male/degradation fetish that could be fulfilled more easily by sex with men
Do I bite the bullet? I'm really scared that I won't like it when it comes down to it.

>>40164431 (OP)
>>decidedly not attracted to men's bodies
What does that mean? Like are you actually attracted to them but choose not to pursue due to male objectification?

>>40164454
Thinking about cock and whatnot doesn't make me horny.

>>40164431 (OP)
eh. it depends. if someone's personality clicks well enough with urs, u wont care if they are male or female. have u ever done any crossdressing

whats your snapchat?

>>40164431 (OP)
maybe get an escort for maximum control

>>40164469
>have u ever done any crossdressing
yeah a fair bit. why?
>>40164472
I don't have any socials.
>>40164481
Seems a little too expensive to be worth the trouble really.

>>40164481
best advice cause escorts actually let you try it out without the expectation of sex that most men would have if you hooked up on grindr (not to say escorts don’t expect sex, but they won’t necessarily get mad if a client decides it isn’t for them half way through)

>>40164463
So what physical traits on someone other than yourself do you find attractive? Muscles, boobs, big butts, pussy?

>>40164552
uhhhhhhhh i find the idea of penetrating a woman really arousing honestly. malebrained and whatnot but I guess it's hardwired into my brain. also boobs are neat i guess.

>>40164592
So you like women, don't like men, and also have a degradation fetish. I think you're just into fendom anon. Get a bi/lesbian girl to spit in your mouth or something

>>40164836
women aren't attracted to me sadly. Also being ordered around by chasers is really hot, entirely separately from their maleness.

crazy i know but what if...you get degraded and sissified by a woman? who also likes to use your girlcock to get off?

>>40164592
>>40164879
so it would be cool if a chaser with a cis gf ordered you to have sex with her in front of him? And then he showed you afterward how a real man does it?

>>40164988
it's hotter if the gf forces me to have sex with the chaser desu. But that'd be fine too ><

>>40164431 (OP)
Yeah you're just kinda pathetic to be honest, I'd make you bottom for my boyfriend until he fucked the retardation out of you

>>40164879
>Also being ordered around by chasers is really hot, entirely separately from their maleness.
So if it's entirely seperate from them being male, why not let a woman order you around?

>>40165030
Dominant women don't really exist irl. But I'm certainly down for it.
>>40165024
pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

>>40164836
>>40165030
This is why "bi" bottoms exist.
They are attracted to women and to being emasculated. They have sex with men not because they like men they do it to feel emasculated or feminized.

>>40165108
Yeah I get that, I fucked some kid's dad before (he was surprisingly fem) who wasn't even GAY gay but just wanted to be fucked. OP just phrased it as if having gay sex is a huge turnoff outside of certain conditions.

>>40164515
>have u ever done any crossdressing
>yeah a fair bit. why?

why did it interest u? what was it about wearing panties or feminine clothes that aroused u? was it just the risque nature of it or smth else? do u consider urself an effeminate guy or what

>>40165266
Crossdressing by itself isn't arousing i don't think. I get """euphoria boners""" sometimes but those are decidedly nonsexual. I guess I just enjoy looking feminine to myself, it makes me happy. (also it's just kinda fun).
>do u consider urself an effeminate guy or what
hrtwink i guess. honestly all the romantic/sexual attraction anyone has ever shown to me has been to my maleness or at least to my status as a slightly-feminized moid so it's extremely hard to see myself as a woman despite having been on hrt for over two years.

>>40165307
u can still be a feminine dude and be on HRT. labels dont make a diff. im kinda interested in knowing more about why ur brain works the way it does ngl

why did u even begin HRT? that is surprising. taking that while claiming to be straight

>>40165406
Dysphoria and whatnot. It's hard to care about fucking women and fulfilling male social roles when it's eating away at you. I don't really think I'm a woman though, I'm more dysphoric about having an ugly masculine body than not having a woman's body.

>>40164431 (OP)

Lol here's what will happen when you have sex with a guy:

>will realize that there's nothing disgusting or alarming about it
>dick just tastes normal
>the guy isn't bullying abusing or murdering you
>it's not that much different from kissing/touching a woman really.
>relief washes over you
>oh wait this isn't so bad?
>i guess I can just have sex with guys if I want to?
>i don't even need to be hard, don't even need to top them
>it's fun to get attention from men, but it isn't a big deal
>it doesn't change my sexuality i can always go back to girls later
>hmm precum doesn't taste as bad as I thought...
>this is kind of funny i'm like an escort or a prostitute... lol let me make him think I'm enjoying this *puts in more effort*

then, as you're bobbing your little head on his hard throbbing cock, suddenly it will hit you like a gut punch:

A straight boy wouldn't be deep throating cock,

A straight boyfriend wouldn't be moaning,

Wouldn't feel warm and fuzzy when the guy calls her a "good girl"

Your body will start to tremble as you realize you don't want to stop, you want to please him

Then he'll ask you to turn around and your body will obey automatically, you'll whimper in your little listing trained bitch voice "just the tip..." right before he burys his moist cock all the way to the hilt in your busy, ramming into your prostate. You'll let out a keening wail, a desperate lilting call of a little faggot songbird having her virginity obliterated, and deep down you'll know, although it might take you a while to admit it, that you'll never go back to girls again, because no girl is going to be able to make you feel like a man can.

>>40165433
just become a gay bottom dood

also >>40165442
this prolly applies to you

>>40165479
I'm not sure what that would even entail.
>>40165442
h-hot

>>40165494
start talking with a dude who's the opposite of you: muscular, dominant, rugged, shit like that. i did know an asian guy who was similar to you. he was a short guy and a bit pudgy, like a soft feminine boy. even erect his penis was like 4 inches. it was nice to bully him and fuck him. describe urself to me

>>40165548
Picrel :(. i have awful manface too
https://unsee cc/album#kpQddtPG6qDs

>>40165044

>attracted to women and want them to make me suck cock

Eventually turns into

>identifies as a woman and sucks cock of her own accord

These are just the component parts of female heterosexuality in a pre-assembled state.

>>40165307

>Nonsexual euphoria boners

Okay will you at least admit you're begging to be called out as an AGP fag in this thread? This is the funniest thing I've read in at least a year

>>40165639
>an AGP fag
obviously, but I'm totally serious about it being nonsexual.
>t. has tried fapping while crossdressing multiple times and felt zero pleasure

>>40164431 (OP)
its something you should figure out early on if its your cup of tea or not.
and the man matters, alot of guys aren't fun to sleep with, but once and a while you'll find a good one that's really nice.
they probably one keep you as a main.
you'll always be a sex toy/side piece though.
but its the same with women most the time also unless you man up and have a fat stack and can cover all her needs.
which is fucking retarded and a waste of time/energy/etc.

so yeah. find a good dude or a cougar to spoil you. and be their thing.

>>40165442
nice post.
that was me a couple days ago.
but i already know my fate.

@op again
domme bitches are fun in theory but theyre fucking annoying most the time if you linger with them.
better to find a switch/subby brat girl that is okay with being with fem dudes.

>>40165588
>https://unsee cc/album#kpQddtPG6qDs
self harm scars. good luck anon

>>40165044

>"decidedly not attracted to mens bodies"
>literally begging to get dicked

lmao

>>40166863
Meta-attraction to getting fucked is not the same as liking men, anon.

>>40167668

Yes, actually, it is.

>>40169650
>think about the mere act of getting fucked by someone bigger than me
>horny
>place an actual man with a face and a personality there
>not really all that horny
It just seems obvious really. I have never actually wanted to fuck a moid i know in real life.

>>40166863
i think this is the same phenomenon as those "lesbians" who end up with men a year later just in a boymoder

>>40164836
>Get a bi/lesbian girl to spit in your mouth or something
admittedly I like men as well but I sorn years looking for a femdom gf and they just don't exist or aren't into men. the reality is most if not all women very fixated on cishet relationship norms.

fun fact, picrew art was drawn by a korean transwoman

>>40165442
oh wow that's hot