let's end this delusion together.
share your tips and plans for detrooning, why you want to detroon and how we can make sure to not throw the truetrans under the bus

>>40175313 (OP)
keep taking your HRT, retards

>>40175313 (OP)
If it's not for health concerns, detransitioning can be suicide fuel for a lot of people.

>>40175322
why? i literally don't want to be trans.

its good to detroon if you have REVERSE gdysphoria
especially if you arent even agp or anything

>>40175313 (OP)
Go back to making bbc threads on pol i beg you

>>40175335
too bad, tranny

>>40175343
what kind of reverse dysphoria do you experience?

>>40175345
stfu and be glad you didn't make a mistake like we did
>>40175343
yes, detroons do actually exist

>>40175335
once a tranny always a tranny

>>40175362
why was it a mistake?

>>40175352
my emtionas arent stable and im not female
im not happy or feeling ok with my choices
my life was ok

>>40175313 (OP)
>tried to detroon
>feel like utter shit but try to just thug it out
>go back on mones after a few months of trying to exercise cope about it (cardio and bodyweight excercises)
>immediately feel a cessation of psychological torment after like 2 days back on it
>start taking care of myself again
>happier overall with my appearance now and upped my dose switching to injections
If you can detroon that's good for you but I think people should be wary of the "why should I keep taking my medicine I'm not sick anymore" phenomenon
Anyway thanks for reading my detroon blog. If I was less fortunate I would just manmode for the benefit hrt has on my psyche. Thank god I live in this era.

>>40175373
that sounds pretty awful, but you didn't answer my question: what reverse dysphoria are you experiencing?

>>40175352
>>40175373
basically i dont have the same epxeriences with ym gender other trannies do, even you have something to keep you trooning
all i ahve is fear

>>40175348
you will detransition in 5 years
the inverse of uber transphobes ending up transitioning is detransition deniers ending up detrooning. circle of life

>>40175313 (OP)
I'm a porn addicted sexual trauma-ridden gynephile and a neverpasser moid so I'll be detrooning soon

>>40175370
because, as epictetus has said:
> there is no point in wanting to change what lies beyond your control
> t. 5'10 aryan hypermale lateshit angular as fuck neverpassoid

>>40175381
???
emotional one >>40175386

>>40175386
once again, that sounds like a confusing and painful experience heavily influenced by social perception and feelings of inadequacy common to imposter syndrome, but what kind of reverse gender dysphoria are you experiencing specfically?

>>40175401
what part is reverse dysphoria? that is typically meant to indicate someone is dysphoric over the physical results of HRT or the repercussions over their social transition

>>40175406
>the physical results of HRT or the repercussions over their social transition
I feel like I am not a girl specifically
idk how to explain it
physically idgaf

>>40175393
nah, I'm not that much of a loser lmao I've been on HRT 5 years already and have no plans for stopping

>>40175386
> im not female
you knew that going in
>my emotions arent stable
how so?
>im not happy or feeling ok with my choices
so you would have rather kept masculinizing instead of feminizing?

>>40175419
>I feel like I am not a girl specifically
how is that reverse dysphoria? you're just describing imposter syndrome around your gender identity so far, but calling it something else

>>40175396
how do you plan to deal with the returning libido?

>>40175406
>>40175419
IT might be the social part
I dont see myself as female and react to my male mask better than my female mask
>>40175426
>rather kept masculinizing instead of feminizing?
idk what this means
>>40175427
wdym
what is reverse dysphoria? Jsut physical? socially around my trans peers I feel male and usually ignored. When treated female by people it feels surprising and jarring

>>40175440
Sometimes it isnt bad but I manmode so idk im treated male and I handle it more than fine but the female mask feels as fake as the male on

>>40175364
but I'm not a tranny I'm just a self-labeling idiot.
I never got a gender dysphoria diagnosis and never even talked about it with a shrink.
I just ordered bathtub estrogen on the internet and started injecting it because I was curious if it would improve my life.

>>40175440
>I dont see myself as female and react to my male mask better than my female mask
that's not reverse dysphoria, that's discomfort with the perception that you aren't qualified for your identity or that others don't see you as that identity

>socially around my trans peers I feel male and usually ignored. When treated female by people it feels surprising and jarring
okay see that's something specific, why do you feel that way? is it actually negative or does it make you feel bad because you want to be seen as masculine instead?

>>40175440
looking back on your duration spent on hrt: do you feel like you would rather have spent that time not being on hormones, or do you just wish that you had feminized more?

>>40175430
I have a trans gf and she said she's gonna help me out with it, though I'm still very much terrified of getting it back
The one good thing HRT did to me was nuke my sexual function, but it turns out my sexuality didn't change much despite my now being more accepting of my androphilia... I'm still a helpless degradee masochist gynephilic for the most part and it's really incompatible with being a woman, so yeah, detrooning

>>40175459
> When treated female by people it feels [...] jarring
how can that not be reverse gender dysphoria?

>>40175466
but I didn't say that wasn't

>>40175313 (OP)
kill yourself faggot, do it

>>40175464
shit I'm so sorry for you. isn't there any other medication that can nuke your libido like that? only t blockers are bad for health...
i'd love to get zero-depth just so that I don't have to go back to being a porn-addicted gooner.

>>40175460
>do you feel like you would rather have spent that time not being on hormones, or do you just wish that you had feminized more?
idk what this means
it doesnt matter
>>40175459
>okay see that's something specific, why do you feel that way? is it actually negative or does it make you feel bad because you want to be seen as masculine instead?
i think i will self diagnose again if i keep talking :)
it is easy to lie!
Its all lies btw
idc to be seen as masculine
maybe thats a lie
who knows!!!!
I came out recently to people and they treat me like a girl and it is sooo surprising cause i never expected it. idk if its bad or good
>>40175466
yeah its prolly right?
I mean it makes sense
im not sad i guess
Just
idk

>>40175421
no one with a stable sense of identity would act like you do

>>40175491
what do you mean you dont know what it means did you like the physical effects of hrt yes or no?

>>40175491
you and I have done this so many times, and every time I corner you by breaking down the incorrect projections and assumptions you're using to justify your self-hate you give up and stop even trying, just like this

you need help with your imposter syndrome

>>40175495
why's that?

>>40175474
so apparently you can talk about literally everything on this board, apart from detrooning. wtf?
>>40175491
> I mean it makes sense
do you also over-self-psychoanalyze until things make sense? this is how i tricked myself into believing i have gd

>>40175513
>so apparently you can talk about literally everything on this board, apart from detrooning. wtf?
the problem is that your only justifications for doing this are always rooted in anti-trans rhetoric that harms us all - I have NEVER seen a "legitimate" detransitioner, they are always socially coerced and/or still on HRT and/or still dysphoric

>>40175532
now I'm not saying they don't exist, people can make mistakes and be misled, but at least on this board... lol

>>40175313 (OP)
>>40175343
"Detransition" doesn't exist, but repression due to Christian conservative delusions does.

>>40175544
> greater age
> self-identifying as living with schizophrenia
> brought up christian
I'm more true-detrans than truetrans.
also note please
> 62,7 % of detroons reported 'No, I don't regret detrooning'

>>40175581
>detroon losers in charge of reading comprehension

>>40175591
correct me faggot

>>40175612
lol you're subtracting the wrong statistic and inferring something that isn't necessarily stated

>>40175538
>let's end this delusion together

>>40175509
You cannot seem to accept the concept of detransition so you must make up several reasons as to why they must all want to retransition, the inverse of transphobes writing fanfiction about how all trans people will eventually detransition or rope. Yes the latter is more harmful as a whole, but it's all the same form of black and white thinking
If someone who has detransitioned eventually ends up wanting to retransition, they'll come to that conclusion on their own terms. Trying to mind games someone into it isn't going to work

>>40175641
but where did I make anything up, and why does that mean I don't have a stable sense of identity or will detroon? this seems like a complete non-sequitur

manmoding is shitty because I don't feel like a man. i wanna detroon so that i can feel like a real man and deal with things in a manly manner.

but like, for real... there's absolutely no reason to keep doing this if I have to permaman- or permahonmode.
i should give detransition at least a try. i doubt there are mental effects from going back on T and for the physical stuff, well, I don't think I'm can hate my body and more than I do right now, so ig I'll just hide it and write a letter to slavoj zizek if i can become his lackey
being around that guy I'm at least mentally entertained enough to not have to look in a mirror or think about my physical presence
> sex is nice, but going to sleep afterwards is much better

>>40175486
>isn't there any other medication
idts, but it's not like I want to anyway
I think having little to no libido sucks, actually... it's just the alternative for me hasn't been gr8, but I'll try
>i'd love to get zero-depth
I've contemplated that quite a bit but now the idea just terrifies me; don't actually have bottom dysphoria

>>40175833
it fucks me up that I have bottom dysphoria and want to get SRS more than FFS but can't and I know I wouldn't get laid either looking like the abominable creature I am

>>40175778
see you at 50 john

>>40175833
I also hate hate hate my male libido and erections.

>>40175863
did you have bottom dysphoria when you were still a gooner, anon? thought that wasn't possible

>>40175880
I won't make it to 50 I'll overdose on meth and/or heroin within the next 5-10 years, but at least I can face that reality much more peacefully than being a hon until I'm sixty or older

>>40175513
>so apparently you can talk about literally everything on this board, apart from detrooning. wtf?
You’re on 4chan you goose. If you didn’t notice, trans topics and discussions are spammed to shit by extremely hateful people, some of whom have dedicated their hatred to trannies on this board for upwards of a decade by now. If your biggest complaint posting about detrooning is someone saying “take your pills john 50” you need to HARDEN THE FUCK UP

Anyway good luck with your detroonin lil detroony

>>40175898
I couldn't look at my penis (also while masturbating). Always did it under a blanket and often only to get rid of erections.

>>40175502
I dont have that im getting to the bottom of this
>>40175501
they dont matter
>>40175513
>do you also over-self-psychoanalyze until things make sense? this is how i tricked myself into believing i have gd
yes
its painful
tocd
>>40175544
im not christian

>>40175903
> HARDEN THE FUCK UP
I will, by becoming a chad

>>40175919
>I dont have that
we JUST did this, you explained to me in broken hysterics how your imposter syndrome is hurting you but you misattributed it to other things

I hate you niggas
I have serious repper's remorse but at least I'm sticking to the choice I made until I kms

>>40175898
I'm also p good at dissociating the sensation of arousal from what I'm doing physically. Like I just focus on the feeling inside really hard instead of what was happening physically.
Sometimes I can look down on myself and appreciate seeing a penis, but I do not recognize it as my own - am just turned on by having a penis to play with even if it isn't someone else's

>>40175968
no wait, it actually is like it's someone else's. I'm too dissociated while aroused to notice much honestly

>>40175958
take your HRT, retard

>>40175968
Yeah you're probs way more truetrans than I am
I actually actively enjoyed cbt and sph and stuff
I'm rly just a moid

is it true that detrooners often retroon?

>>40175958
> repper's remorse

>>40176011
idk having to masturbate wasn't nice at all, but I just liked to downregulate my moidy sexual energy as much as possible before engaging with society. the constant urge for release made me craaazy, i don't ever wanna go back to that. maybe I won't detroon

>>40175932
You are wrong but my brain is fried see ya later

>>40176147
see you later, tranny!

>>40176070
listen, I was an actual gooner
I engaged in hours (plural)-long gooning sessions
we're not the same
if you don't feel like it, def don't detroon, cuz I see nothing wrong with you based on what you've said to me

>>40176205
yeah I think my six hour long crashout across all of this board is coming to an end. i have said and written down many things I never did before.
I'm just sad that the odds are against me ever passing, but I'll keep wishing for a miracle.

When it comes to you, I don't know I don't think who you were before transition is important at all. Transition is suicide, that other person no longer exists, it's just memories that exist inside of your mind of them.
Like someone who was reborn but retained artifcats. Look at yourself now, objectively. How is your life better than that other person's life? Would you like to live that other persons life if you had the choice, knowing literally what went on in their head all the time?
Your current insecurities don't matter that much compared to your desire to live as that pre-transition memory artifact.

Trannies are wonderful I always knew
Gl girls

>>40176324
>Transition is suicide
I think that's kind of what I wanted, but I've realized it doesn't work
At least not for me, I'm too self-aware
I just don't wanna have to worry about being "valid" or whatever anymore
Plus I'm in a much better spot now romantically and professionally so hopefully things will be different
Hope you succeed, friend

>>40176765
I mean for me it was
A) transition
B) deliberately ending my life in the short- to mid-term
A seemed like a reasonable alternative at first, but by now idk anymore
> I just don't wanna have to worry about being "valid" or whatever anymore
cringe I know but this whole thread is cringe:
> You are in fact valid even as a faketrans fetishist.

>>40175313 (OP)
I kind of want to detrans but I don't appreciate you calling it a delusion