>pre-transition
>zero interest from men (even gay men) or women (cis or trans)
>transition
>decent amount of attention from straight and bi men, none from women (not even transbians), none from gay men
What's going on? I'm not interested in women but I think it reflects poorly on my value as a male (I win baw), same with the gay male thing. I thought transbians were almost as zealous as chasers?

>>40208115 (OP)
maybe you were just unkempt initially and that's why no one showed interest in you at all?

>>40208115 (OP)
"Bi" (GAMP) men just fuck everything feminine.
Straight men don't like pre-ops, they may tolerate you for some BJ on the side but that's it.

You're getting chasers/bisexuals/GAMP who are lying that they're straight.

>>40208115 (OP)
Most gay men are hypersexual and the few ones who arent have negative experiences with transexuals of all kinds for various reasons, one of them being the fact that some of you are never reassured in their sexuality and will never be so it's a hassle dealing with that copious amount of mental illness when you're not doing very well mentally yourself and just want a partner to chill play video games hang out together and fuck day on day off instead of figuring out what you should be reflecting and meditating on in your own mental vicinity

>>40209350
There are some incels that pick up trannies occasionally when they can't get pussy.
These are the straight men. The others who actually like their bodies are bi/GAMP.

>>40209394
>There are some incels that pick up trannies occasionally when they can't get pussy.
>These are the straight men. The others who actually like their bodies are bi/GAMP
So the choice is an ugly weird incel or maybe good looking but degenerate chaser?

>>40208115 (OP)
why do you care about your value as a male i would be offended if someone was attracted to me as a male

>>40210112
>So the choice is an ugly weird incel or maybe good looking but degenerate chaser?
Basically yes.
Your best option is a top chaser with no agp tendencies. They'll give you good sex and some love.

>>40210188
>Your best option is a top chaser with no agp tendencies
Wtf is agp tendencies? I thought agp was a tranny thing.

>>40209314
That wouldn't account for the persistent lack of interest from women and gay men.

>>40209342
>Straight men don't like pre-ops, they may tolerate you for some BJ on the side but that's it.
This meme again

>>40209350
I mean I get hit on by random men while out and about, before I voice trained some even changed their mind when they heard me speak. I pass

>>40210141
I directly address this
>(I win baw)
Are you illiterate

>>40211323

When you use abbreviations and labels every other word don't be surprised nobody understands you. Or that you can't solve any problems related to people when you insist on generalizing lol.

>>40211382
"IWNBAW" (I will never be a woman). Everyone's seen YWNBAW and I thought people would be able to understand that

>>40211497
You didn't even abbreviate it right.

>>40211323
i am not illiterate but i don't get the leap of jumping from self hate to unironically internally detransitioning
>>40211382
i understand the abbreviations don't worry

>>40211624
>i am not illiterate but i don't get the leap of jumping from self hate to unironically internally detransitioning
What don't you get? Not in a rude way

>>40208115 (OP)
Real life is not the internet. Men are interested in women.

>>40211994
But I'm a man

>>40211973
idk i just don't understand the thought process, i often deal with self hate and feeling like iwnbaw but in those moments i guess i still want to be a woman enough to not consider myself male. i guess i don't understand why feeling like ywnbaw means you have to think about your "value as a male"

Wat does GAMP mean

>>40212173
I just have worse self esteem I guess.

>>40209394
Those are bisexual incels
>>40211323
The only reason they come up to you is because they're GAMPS who can clock you and want your dick