being nontrans on hrt sucks. nobody understands it, not even ai which keeps insisting i have gd when i talk to it about it.

>>40227302 (OP)
I think you should be allowed to be on hrt if you aren't trans. Anyone that wants to be on hrt should be allowed to

>>40227346
i just want ppl to be able understand it or not judge me too harshly

>>40227302 (OP)
I think estrogen is crack for nerds

>>40227694
Why are you even telling people

>>40227720
im not smart enough to be a nerd
>>40227734
it comes up sometimes online i dont tell ppl it irl

>>40227302 (OP)
why r u on it

>>40227747
bdd over my hair

>>40227302 (OP)
if it wasnt bad optics i would say based and whatever cuz ur an adult. the normalization of this is why he have gigahons and literal men in dresses thoughbeit so idk...

>>40227800
i dont wear dresses or anything else i just try to live a normal male life while taking hrt and its still exhausting mentally

>>40227808
do you grow boobs tho? like how does this even work, why is HRT the solution to bdd over hair

>>40227960
>do you grow boobs tho
ye
>like how does this even work, why is HRT the solution to bdd over hair
dht is an androgen so if getting rid of dht makes hair fall out less then getting rid of normal testosterone too should help to
>thats how it works in my head atleast

>>40227994
so .. you're making yourself dysphoric in order to prevent balding?? i feel like there's other preventable solutions like minoxodil or whatever looksmaxxers use to prevent balding, jumping to HRT seems a little extreme and is clearly causing u distress

>>40228027
i tried 5a inhibitors but it didnt make me feel safe and the distress off the hrt is worse than the distress on it, i cant use minoxidil either cus i have pets

>>40227994
why not just do dut
not that estrogen isn't awesome

>>40228094
im on dut too with the hrt

>>40227302 (OP)
whats your goal with HRT use?

>>40228141
make my bdd over my hair shut up

>>40228164
if its actual bdd then medical interventions aren't going to help. BDD shifts over time so that while the intervention intially provides relief, over time the anxieties will come back. What you really need for BDD is CBT

If you actually mean "preventing hairloss" then there are other approaches that have less side effects, but you said previiously you arent keen on them so idk

>>40228201
the hrt has shut it up for awhile now so im just happy with the silence i have while i have it
therapy is a no-go id probably end up telling the therapist about everything and embarassing myself

>>40227778
>bdd over my hair
i can't tell if i'm balding and i might have a meltdown and get on fin and estrogen

>>40229721
>i might have a meltdown
um... you might already be at the start of one if youre having these thoughts(ik from experience):/ if you havent tried fin yet, why start with nuclear treatment?

>>40227302 (OP)
what bothers you abt it?

>>40229760
>um... you might already be at the start of one if youre having these thoughts
i've been "repping" non dysphorically for years
>if you havent tried fin yet, why start with nuclear treatment?
because this is just a giant cope and i want to take hrt anyways and i want an excuse that isn't gender dysphoria because i don't see myself as a woman

>>40229809
everything
>>40229907
im sry im not sure i understand? are you dysphoric...? what is non dysphoric repping?

>>40229952
>everything
what are you even saying? if you cannot even appreciate the stopped hairloss & smoother skin, just stop taking it desu

>>40229976
i hate having to take it
i hate having to hide it and worrying about someone noticing it
i hate the ways it messes with my mind
i hate it
i dont have a choice tho. i tried stopping before and i could feel very quickly the start of a downward spiral

>>40229952
>im sry im not sure i understand? are you dysphoric...? what is non dysphoric repping?
i'm not really gender dysphoric but i would like to be a woman and i kinda am afraid of aging

>>40230007
>>40230022
geezus you're just dysphoric.
get off 4chan, have some comfort food, take a walk and listen to your favourite music.
AND STAY ON YOUR MEDS!

>>40230022
>i'm not really gender dysphoric but i would like to be a woman
isnt that what dysphoria is? sorry maybe i misunderstand things, i do that alot.
>>40230050
i am not dysphoric

>>40230074
>isnt that what dysphoria is?
if i were dysphoric i would actually be taking hormones rn instead of talking about taking hormones

>>40227302 (OP)
>>40230074
oh it's one of those 5'4 cis men on hrt again
mogs me. at least you can take fucking estrogen instead of going on and off it like a retard

>>40230007
>i tried stopping before and i could feel very quickly the start of a downward spiral
what's the downward spiral like?
i've started and stopped hrt so many times, i wish i had the mental strength to keep taking it instead of being a failure at it

>i hate having to hide it and worrying about someone noticing it
this is literally the only reason i keep getting off it. if estrogen was even remotely socially acceptable this would be a no brainer
i just want to be a manmoder on hrt and be left the fuck alone, but i'm too scared and stupid for this

>>40230102
>if i were dysphoric i would actually be taking hormones rn instead of talking about taking hormones
yeah same i'm not trans if i can't stay on estrogen so i don't know what this feeling is

>>40230102
arent you trans then but repping...? im sorry i dont get it you sound dysphoric with wanting to be a woman?
>>40230150
>oh it's one of those 5'4 cis men on hrt again
weve talked before, been awhile. did you go on it for abit? last time we talked u hadnt started ever i think... so thats good? i hope ull be able to stay on it like u want eventually
>what's the downward spiral like?
slowly building up anxiety and a sense of impending doom and more frequent fits of sobbing
>started and stopped hrt so many times, i wish i had the mental strength to keep taking it instead of being a failure at it
i wish i was strong enough to stop

>>40230285
>did you go on it for abit?
yeah i went on and off
>last time we talked u hadnt started ever i think... so thats good?
yeah but i stopped which is bad
>i hope ull be able to stay on it like u want eventually
i have wished for this every day but i don't know if it's ever happening
>slowly building up anxiety and a sense of impending doom and more frequent fits of sobbing
i'm always like this as well but i'm not sure if hrt made that better or worse
>i wish i was strong enough to stop
you're probably actually dysphoric if you are doing this much better on it
stopping was easy for me because i'm fake and not trans and i can get through my day

>>40227302 (OP)
Idc about your post, can i just sniff your panties m'lady ?

>>40227744
dork then

>>40230398
>i have wished for this every day but i don't know if it's ever happening
just take it slow ig... alrdy made progress if u started and stopped b4
>you're probably actually dysphoric if you are doing this much better on it
im not dysphoric
it just makes the bdd thoughts less loud and bearable
>stopping was easy for me because i'm fake and not trans and i can get through my day
you seem trans to me... just rly high inhibition
>>40230486
ya that works

>>40230007
>>40230022
Serious question did either of you start liking men after being on e for awhile? I started it to preserve my hair but it changed that part of me too and there's nothing I can do about it now...

>>40230598
>just take it slow ig... alrdy made progress if u started and stopped b4
i undid all that progress except for whatever's left of my boob growth
>im not dysphoric
>it just prevents me from feeling like absolute garbage
sure anon
>you seem trans to me... just rly high inhibition
i'm just stupid and struggle to get anything done

>>40230711
>Serious question did either of you start liking men after being on e for awhile?
i started liking men before that

>>40230728
>i undid all that progress except for whatever's left of my boob growth
i mean... mentally atleast you made it past the first hurdle to start so, thats progress
>sure anon
why do you have to be like this

>>40230872
>i mean... mentally atleast you made it past the first hurdle to start so, thats progress
but then i undid it. iwnbaw
>why do you have to be like this
be like what? i'm just pointing out you seem to need hrt more than me

>>40227808
hellyea a fellow male on E.

>>40230886
>but then i undid it. iwnbaw
youll get there
>be like what? i'm just pointing out you seem to need hrt more than me
youre doing what everyone always does :(
>>40230896
hello

>>40230962
>youll get there
i hope you're right but i don't have much confidence
>youre doing what everyone always does :(
anon i could tell you that you could quit hrt, just stay on fin and dut, but you seem more committed to hrt than i am
and it's improved your life