Be real with me here trannies, do you honestly believe that magically, exactly 1 minute after you take your first estrogen shot, your muscle and lean body mass decreases and becomes 100% identical to what a cis female with your same height and weight would have? is that truly what you are arguing for here?

I know some of you report "FEELING" weaker after being on E for x number of days/months/years but in high-stakes games like competitive sports wouldn't it be ideal to have like a study that shows us how long a trans woman needs to be on hrt until she is equivalent in athleticism to a cis woman?

> exactly 1 minute
no it takes months for muscle atrophy to he noticeable, i think most orgs require >6months

>>40258783
years thoughbeit

>>40258736 (OP)
Who told you we think that
If youre just shouting in the hypothetical trans void, Ive been on hrt for more than 4y and I definitely am not as strong as i was when I was even 17y for example. Could lift 25kg saltbags easily while now I start to be exhausted bringing in groceries

>>40258736 (OP)
she was 2 years on and specially didnt participate when 1yr on hormones to be fair

>>40258736 (OP)
No, it takes more like 2-4 years for strength to even out. It’s also likely that a small edge remains for elite athletics which is why I think trans women shouldn’t really compete in them, but I think it’s okay for them to be in school teams or casual/community stuff

>>40260555
Thats a fair take, i think its fucked up to gatekeep kids who just want to do sports over the sanctity of high school records but its pretty obvious the 6' gigahon has an unfair advantage

>>40260586
I think it's a similar situation as with caster semenya and it really should have been left to individual sports organizations to figure out instead of becoming a huge political moral panic. The fact that it did just shows that people are disgusted by trannies and want any excuse to exercise power over them. but alas that is the world we live in right now

>>40260555
its funny how the average longer-hrt tman outperforms an average guy considering a shit ton of them are on soi male testosterone levels
willing the muscle into existence

>>40260697
There might be a little selection bias going on here. I imagine the average repping pooner hitting up the military has gigachad latent genetics compared to the average soiboy signing up

I don't see anything wrong with having rules like starting hrt by a certain age and being on hrt for X amount of time. Why is that controversial? There are plenty of youngshits virtually indistinguishable from cis girls their own age why bother targeting them?