If I start saving now, I can afford this by October, but I only want to do it if I'll actually get some breast growth from it. How much of an increase can I expect? Or is there a better method I should use?

>>40258842 (OP)
being fat doesn't make your boobs grow

>>40258881
but fat women always have big tits :(

>>40258881
getting a little fatter definitely helped with mine, but I miss being skinny and having a flat tummy instead of a gross muffintop

>>40258881
Use a vacuum breast pump while gaining weight.
Boobs stretched, creates empty area and body is encouraged to store the incoming fat there.

>>40258924
sounds like honscience tbdesu

>>40258934
Not anymoreso than chugging boost.
Obvious answer is just have better genes but thats not actionable.

>>40258924
you don't need to make space, you just need to make sure your hormone levels are good. then the fat you gain will go to the right spots

>>40258842 (OP)
I wouldn’t try it unless you’ve been on HRT for years. When I started HRT, I tried to live out my fetish way too soon and ended up with a lot of male fat distribution because I didn’t wait long enough. I ended up going from 140 to 270 in a year and a half—it was kind of wild. I didn’t really like how the weight looked on me, and now, even 3 years later, I can’t get all of it off because estrogen wrecked my metabolism. Even after getting back down to 140, I weighed myself for the first time In a couple of months and was surprised to see that I’m at 180 and gained 40 pounds without even realizing it.

>>40258842 (OP)
this is the stupidest fucking infographic ive seen in a while. this is worse than that trap mode infographic.

if you want actual fat tits, start drinking olive oil. or take pio. gain slowly, not fast, and know that sugar expands male fat rather than creating new female fat cells.

>>40258881
Yes it does breasts always have fat and even fat guys get gyno.

>>40259411
stupid cow it's so easy to lose weight don't blame hrt no one randomly gains 40lbs without realizing it. It's so easy to lose weight literally just stop eating like a pig

>>40261130
estrogen slows metabolism and promotes fat over muscle anabolism

>>40258842 (OP)
don't gain weight without pio EVER

>>40258842 (OP)
im already 200lbs

>>40260177
>drinking olive oil is smart
hey babe how about we relax

>>40258881
boobs are still a lot of fat that's why its healthier to have a slightly higher bmi

>>40260177
how slow?
I'm currently gaining about 1 lb / week on pio, is that too fast?

reminder to lift while on pio as otherwise your body will actively cannibalize your muscle mass to turn it into fat

>>40261790
good

>>40261800
no i mean to dangerous levels that will impair your normal body function

>>40261790
ok youve convinced me, im going on pio

>>40261813
even better

>>40261817
if you're trying to lose muscle and won't lift you really have to at least do cardio, don't fuck around with pio and no exercise. do squats if you can

>>40261829
you think this is a meme but it can end up killing you

>>40261863
the best outcome

I keep seeing pio but can't figure out the full name.
Is it something you can get over the counter?

>>40262522
lol nah its pioglitazone u need to use a diy site or get a script, its a diabeetus medication with desirable side effects

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9YwyfX33LU

nobody in this thread has convinced me that pio is needed for this, especially if you've been on HRT for a few years

>>40263277
you might be right but i'm only 1 and a half years in so i'm throwing more kindling on the fat ass fire.

>>40260177
i looked at boost's macros and it's not that bad. it's got a lot of sugar in it yeah but it's got a ton of unsaturated fats too
>drink olive oil
not feasible for most people i wouldn't be able to get it down
and 500 extra calories per day is about 1lb/week which is fast but not that crazy
honestly i think the most contentious thing in here is that your boobs will get bigger with weight cycling, i have seen nothing about that in trans women specifically which is weird because we tend to weight cycle a lot

>>40264367
yeah i really don't think there's any decent diy recipe that can be condensed into just 8 ounces of liquid and isn't even more expensive than Boost. people don't get that the problem with gaining weight is the volume how how much you're eating a lot of times, and this is a godsend

>>40264367
>>40261692
exactly

>honestly i think the most contentious thing in here is that your boobs will get bigger with weight cycling
because adipocyte hyperplasia occurs only when theyre approaching capacity or when you take the drugs that induce it.

boosting macros wont do shit for your tits, you need new fat cells and that only occurs when youre maxxed out or taking PPARy agonists. its why olive oil could in theory work, its 50% naturally occurring mild PPARy agonists.

>>40261776
yes, try to half or quarter that if you can. think of it like gaining muscle but its new fat cells instead. you only want to gain weight weight at the end of a pio cycle.

>>40265880
well what if i cook with olive oil a lot?

>>40265928
thatll help, but honestly its a weak ppary agonist and theres no real substitute for pio unless you smoke a shitton of weed.

>>40265880
Interesting information
>its why olive oil could in theory work, its 50% naturally occurring mild PPARy agonists.
med girl W

>>40265939
what if i'm using weed regularly and taking pio?

>>40265880
i'm not convinced that breast fat tissue is similar to gluteofemoral fat tissue in how it responds to glitazones i haven't seen anything that suggests this
i'll look into it tmrw maybe cuz i'm tired as shit rn

>>40266392
based
hopefully you get a fat rack

>>40266402
i dont see why it wouldnt be, pio produces adipocyte hyperplasia in accordance with hormones, hence why waist measurements go up on it.

>>40265939
How on earth does weed affect fat distribution

>>40266416
given how different the different fat depots are both metabolically and in their capacity/the way they expand i can definitely see how there would be a difference
i think when i get the time i'll look and see if i can't find an overview of breast fat tissue and how it compares to other depots but based on my cursory searches in the past it seems rather understudied

>>40266471
a number of cannabinoids have PPARy activity.

>>40266479
you got a discord or something, anon? because id love to hear about what you find there.

>>40258842 (OP)
god fucking dammit i literally use those exact shakes too but two/day and i still am not gaining weight fml

>>40266988
you have to be eating like very little apart from those to not gain weight lol unless you're like a turbo athlete
an extra 1000 calories is kind of a lot

>this fucking fetish psyop is making the rounds again
>>40258842 (OP)
>How much of an increase can I expect?
cup size? probably nothing, youll be gaining underbust and overbust at the same rate
they'll get fatter but so will everything else in the same proportions you have now
>is there a better method I should use?
if you just want bigger tits, fat grafts or implants

>>40259411
the replacement rate for fat cells means that its something like 7-10 years on hrt until you can get fully feminized fat distribution. its very very slow

>>40269083
Hmm, i wouldnt say that, the cells u have will respond to estrogen earlier on but the fat has to go, you have to be skinny to lose the male fat distribution, im talking like anorexic levels to get it all gone, but then again gaining weight wont fix most of your skeletons. No amount of hip fat will counter the belly fat and waist fat and shoulder fat that you get so youll either be a upside down dorito, or a brick. Pick one ig.

>>40259411
>>40269083
this is probably the only real non-honscience answer desu... maybe ill be able to fatmax by the time im 30

>>40269388
you can speed the redistribution up somewhat by getting fat grafts but odds are unless you're financially blessed you wouldnt be able to afford a meaningful amount of body sculpting before you were old enough to have gotten it naturally desu

>>40265939
feels like you just want to make more fat stoners

>>40269993
most cis women have very fatty breasts tbhdesu
fat is a functional part of the organ after all

chocolate chip cookies and sunbutter sandwiches

>>40266489
most of what i can find is either about breast cancer or fat grafting. i found something about how boob fat can switch from white adipose tissue to epithelial cell and back https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cmet.2017.12.002 which makes me think that the lactationcyclingfags may have had a point
i couldn't find anything about glitazones and breast fat stem cell differentiation, it was all about glitazones' affects on estrogen biosynthesis in the context of breast cancer. i found something in goat cells in vitro but that's pretty far away from a human body

>>40258842 (OP)
what does it taste like? I had to have those calorie drinks as a kid and they were so nasty

>>40260177
does it also work if i pump it up my asshole

>>40271073
yes. be sure to do the full 2 litres.

>>40270993
fug. i dont trust the lacationfags desu, but i do know in the context of PRL breast fat becomes a unique type of adipose tissue that secretes milk.

>>40271368
> be me
> be in high school working at walmart
> in the olive oil aisle brushing up shit
> i look
> olive oil
> that great value, extra virgin gallon container of olive oil is looking mighty attractive
> look around
> no one around

> slip on both knees and unscrew the cap of olive oil from a gallon jug, the sight of which has incentivised me to lie down on my back and pants thrown off carelessly as the remnants of a joint into the grass, so the hole of the jug is positioned directly into my asshole. My asshole swallows the jug tip and the oil goes shlopslop into my asshole. It sucks it all in. My belly rumbles as if the invertex quadrangles of poseidon's realm were bulging up within. Brrrroooom.
> Bottle empty
> Oil acquired
> Leave empty bottle on shelves, it rolls back and forth on its plinth like a coin dropped onto a surface a certain way, some other underpaid twenty something will throw it out into the recycling container where it probably won't even reach the recycling plant and will most likely be thrown into the ocean to murder yet nore countless swathes of sea turtles.
> shift ends
> Go home
> have a big oily shit in the bathtub, the shiny turds floomping their way out like unviagrad torpedoes slide out of the cannon's belly, it flops and shloopfs. Puddles of diarrhea slide out to the tune of gassy heaving blorps and oily bubbly farts.
> ah
> What a life this is, being oily.

>>40271648
posts that should get your estrogen confiscated

>>40271814
U mean increased