like i am not saying mtfs have it better per se. i am not saying having creepy gross chasers and john 70 sissy fetishists sending you dickpics on grindr is better. but i guess as disgusting as chasers are, there’s at least someone out there. not to mention the popularity of t4t among lesbian mtfs.
but a pooner? i know it’s been said 100000 times but it bears repeating. we are the worst of both worlds. positive androgyny. fat ugly smelly hairy failed women who ooze fucking slime out of axe wounds, who get ugly ass misshapen scars on their chest, the nipples aren’t symmetrical they’re not even in the same dimension, dog ears and all.
don’t even get me started on not having a dick, or the two options being rotting frankentube that costs 1000000$ and doesn’t work or a plastic toy. humiliating.
no one fucking wants a pooner. maybe a handful of the most degenerate chasers with forced detrans fetishes or who wanna do corrective rape on lesbians. i guess mtf chasers at least see them as a special, third gender that’s somehow exciting and desirable but no one sees a poontato as anything else but an ugly misshapen mutilated stinking chick.
worst part is, i kinda can’t blame em. i go onto any mainstream ftm space and see hordes upon hordes of giga ultra mega turbo tuna poons with dyed hair, pubestache, a billion piercings, horrible makeup, ass fatter than a pregnant sow, fugly ass fembrained tattoos with their saggy tits out and think yeah. this is what we are. nothing and no one in their right mind would want a "person" who is basically 1 step removed from a david cronenberg monster.
t4t as a gayden is a joke as well. the maybe 1% of actually masculine and passing trans guys will either end up living the gay hedonistic lifestyle, bag a trans girl baddie or date a cis girl and integrate into normal society.

>>40260280 (OP)
idk where i am going with this. but no one wants us, and also, no one wants there to be more pooners. i see people joking about feminine guys who are pretty enough to become a girl, as if it’s exciting, and desirable. look into greek mythology to find countless examples of androgynous male youths being lauded and desired by the gods for their feminine beauty.
no one wants a potentially fuckable foid to become a bloated hairy mutilated mess.
we are the worst of everything the spectrum of human gender has to offer, we are deeply repulsive and generally an absolutely useless group of people. there are no myths about us, we have no culture, no art, no friends nor lovers. everything about us is derivative at best and a tasteless farce at worst.
if i have to see one more blue haired bloated pubestached steven universe le heccin dnd fanartist crocheting animal crossing tattoo having afab wxmbynly body having wannabe femboi hefab turbopoon again i am actually gonna do it.
we are so utterly disgusting, undesirable, uninteresting, uninspired, unwanted, pathetic fucking losers it is genuinely incredible. i don’t think there’s ever been a gender or sexual minority group as utterly fucking cooked as ftms.
/end

>>40260287
this only applies if you're ugly post transition

>>40260280 (OP)
The market for casual sex for trannies, FtM or MtF, is broad. It always costs a little bit of your self respect, more so than cis people experience.
Finding long term relationships is hard for all trans people. It sucks, but it is possible.

>>40260280 (OP)
as a ftmtfemrepper i really agree and wish i didnt. every word of this rang true in my soul and its just a bummer.

>>40260394
nta but wanna get dicked down?

>>40260584
kill yourself

As a gayden I've never felt unattractive. They love this fat ass. I even had 3 boyfriends at one time buying me stuff without asking.

>>40261121
god how can you stomach being so foidlike

>>40260287
I dont understand why you care so much about other pooners.
If anything they lower the standart of transition for you.
I agree that that some american pooners who dont try to be masculine at all are bizzare and I dont understand why the bother transitioning.

>>40260280 (OP)
I don't know what to tell you.
Sorry that you're introverted or ugly. I've never had issues with dating women before or after transition and I'm a good chunk of the shit you're whining about. Maybe you need a personality.

>>40260280 (OP)
>>40260287
women are desirable, men are not
who would've thought

>>40261121
even down to the picrel... i cant imagine what being so female in your soul must be like. ignorance really is bliss...

>>40260280 (OP)
>>40260287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcIMZ4FJ6dE&list=RDbcIMZ4FJ6dE&start_radio=1
Vast majority of shit you mention is solely the poons own fault

gender isn't really that important, but trans make it an self mutilation identity instead of simply living in the body they were born with. all of that bad stuff could've been avoided

You were extremely desirable as a woman though lol. 2's are desirable if you're a woman.

>>40261780
hey dumbass he didnt transition to be desirable. this is honestly why ftms (who actually take hrt) are way more likely to be trutrans than mtfs

>>40261851
trvke, masculine hrt taking ftms are some of the truest trans because it is a massive downgrade unless you were an exceptionally ugly woman

>>40261194
>>40261480
Just because I have a fat ass doesn't mean I'm sitting on it all day. I've been on hrt for 7 years and do manual labor as a hobby. It's also fembrained to worry about how feminine you come off. Some women love that shit.

>>40261862
Being an ugly woman doesn't make a good looking man

>>40262465
yes, but being an ugly man is BETTER than being an ugly woman since women's value is based on their fuckability

>>40262562
you're arguing with a brick wall, this board (and by extension this site) believes that if you have a pussy you have no problems in life

>>40262562
I agree, I'm not sure what the other poster is talking about

>sometimes it just hits how utterly undesirable you are as a afab faketrans trender who cant experience dysphoria or be trans
stopped reading there

>>40260280 (OP)
You cant stop me from wanting ftmbf who will match my vibe
t. mtf

>>40260280 (OP)
It's ok anon I think you're cool and I think you can find love even if it is really difficult.

>>40260280 (OP)
there are ways to improve transition, you only become repulsive if you let T run through you without taking care of yourself. not to mention a lot of gigapoons date other gigapoons and fat cis women.
some of the shit you said is trvke, but i've managed to maintain a cis bf and many friends and so have the other pooners in my life.

>>40260280 (OP)
>>40260287
trvth nvke being a pooner fucking sucks. our "culture" is retarded ukelele music and cringe foids on tiktok. I will never trust a cis man dating me fully because I will always be just a hole. And anyone else dating me will leave me for a real penis. gender dysphoria is a curse but I guess its nice to finally like my appearance

>>40260280 (OP)
It's worse if you are exclusively gynephilic. Hussies should never poon.

>>40260280 (OP)
most people dont see vaginas as gross, even if its not something you want on your body, it's not going to repulse other people
top surgery scars arent a big deal, they can even look cool, and people's nipples are never totally symmetrical
having no dick probably does suck but it still at least doesn't mean there's no hope
many people are okay with strap ons and stuff and will still appreciate you for any masculine features you work on

>>40260280 (OP)
ftms in st4t spaces are like kings you've got to be fucking kidding me. with all these desperate trannies out here you're seriously fucking trying to tell me that you have it hard??? Youre WORSHIPED!! even the ugliest of ftms could find a nice mtf, don't be fucking silly. This shit is dumb.

i think female socialization in the modern day makes you better at being a man, men in modern culture are coddled whiny faggots, but women are the ones who have to learn introspection, maturity, and how to build up inner strength and self assurance after being torn down by society. guys will get butthurt at the smallest thing but afabs can take insults and setbacks with a confident demeanor because we are taught this. so personality maxxing yea

I've had my straight girl friends openly telling me they thirst over trans men.
Just because you're a trans man that doesn't mean you're automatically unattractive. But you need a good hairstyle, skin and body.

I mean you went from easy mode to god has abandoned you mode. What did you really expect.

Easy mode retards are back. Hope they will be women in next life and kill themselves.

>>40262152
that's what you think made them call you a foid? you're hopeless. i hate that you are the kind of creature i'm associated with. i wish i was malebrained enough to kill myself

>>40264431
>you are the kind of creature i'm associated with
not only that, you're the same kind of creature

>>40263242
>mentally ill pussy in psych wards are like kings you've got to be fucking kidding me. with all these desperate degenerates out here you're seriously fucking trying to tell me that you have it hard??? Youre FETISHIZED!! even the lowest value of holes could find a desperate fetishist, don't be fucking silly. This shit is dumb.

>>40264446
not anymore i'm detrans grifting im "woe as me i was 12 and groomed" moding all of y'all can get fucked

>>40264491
wow so you're even lower than them

>>40264491
All ftmtf should be required to become a basement-dwelling ftm's wife as reparations

>>40264505
i'm not lower for being based and realitypilled. sorry i don't affirm your delusions, i think that it's fucked up to coax a mentally ill person deeper into their illness instead of trying to help them

>>40264581
hot until i saw ftm. i wish my bf would rape a baby into me, y'all will never have bio cocks. can't beat hetero sex, it's biologically ingrained in all of us.

>>40264600
god save you but don't come crying back when you've realized you fucked up

>>40264491
this is abhorrent unironically

Twinky ftms are made for dollcoded fashion-androgyny girltwunks

>>40264622
i think the estrogen will finally make me insane enough to go through with killing myself. don't worry, death before retransition or whatever

>>40264635
we'll all be waiting

>>40264627
it's abhorrent to realize you made a mistake and grow the balls to accept that?
>>40264653
waiting for me to kms or retransition? lol

>>40264621
You will never pass and he will leave you for a cis woman he can actually rape a baby into you retarded brick

>>40264621
And you will never be able to have bio kids.
>can't beat hetero sex,
You're not having hetero sex lol

>>40264912
>>40264733
im ftmtf you fucking retards

>>40264923
In that case do proceed to get raped please because you have the intelligence of an amoeba there’s genuinely nothing dumber than your kind

>>40264971
im 130 iq like everyone else with agp. you will never understand me, midwit

>>40264996
I have agp too dumb cunt what now?

>>40264696
good bait. deciding to detrans grift and making trutrans with actual dysphoria look like groomed individuals is pretty weird imo.

>>40265076
i mean my detransition is probably just. a form of self harm but it's not like anyone will ever actually care enough about me to help me so i might as well go through with it and kill myself so i dont just become another statistic, right? it doesn't matter if i'm cis, trans, or detrans, no one will ever care about me
>>40265004
let's rub our pussies together kwueen

>>40265150
i dont know you, but i care. i really empathize too as another ftmtfrepper, its a miserable lifestyle and i wouldnt wish it on anybody.

My advice is you should post angle fagged pics on passgen and get the ego boost from trans women calling you hot

You don't really need all that bro just be chill. End of the day its not that hard to not smell bad, get a two block haircut, buy clothes that fit and then slam a protein shake once a day or so. You don't have to be skinny or buff just take care of yourself, ez

>>40260280 (OP)
>the most degenerate chasers with forced detrans fetishes
me, lol
just surrender and become a girl

>>40265449
It would be hot if someone inverted your dick

>>40260280 (OP)
quit watching yaoi and get help

>>40265449
you could fix me anon (only if you're hot)

>>40266339
no I'm a fat ogre, ofc you'd submit to me anyway

>>40266516
okay slow down there buddy i changed my mind

>>40266523
wrong. You serve my penis now. You'll learn to love it

>>40260280 (OP)
Ftms are some of the coolest people I've met. You guys make up for it with personality. I speak incredibly highly of you. There's are a few plusses. Like my body hurts way more since transitioning.
I.e; afabs have half of the nerve cells in their body and experience half the pain and after transitioning they feel even less painb because testosterone makes the cells half as effective. So ftm's only experience 25% of the pain mtf's do. I swear I hurt all the time now..

>>40266535
you should try to forcibly feminize me but you have to be on guard 24/7 because i will actively be scheming to cut your dick off, attach it to my strap, and fuck you with it. i WILL be sneaking estrogen pills into your water, you WILL be my good little sissy slut

>>40267471
you'd probably be wearing a pink frilly apron and swallowing your own pills for me within a week

>>40260280 (OP)
You have a pussy not an axewound. An axewound is what mtfs get when they undergo SRS. I suppose you could still get axewounds in other parts of your body, if you so choose to.

>>40260280 (OP)
Can you send an image of how do you think every pooner looks like

>>40264621
Everyday I thank nature for making me such a massive bulldyke, it used to feel like a curse but being cocksexual makes women so retarded.

How does ftm detransition even work? Don't you still grow a beard? Isn't your skin fucked? How about your voice? Doesn't it permanently drop? Wouldn't you be seen as a tranny?

>>40266516
detrans stuff ruins it so bad like all of a sudden it's just a fat dude acting entitled

>>40264431
Pfft anon I didn't do anything but say I was desirable. You can be, too. You've got all the right features, unless you're saying you're ugly.
>>40263272
Unironically this

>>40260280 (OP)
>date a cis girl and integrate into normal society.
I think this has been the most common, but they aren’t visible and not going to out themselves. There basically is an a lesbian community anymore because so many people pooned out. I think you’re confusing being a trans man with the “trans community.” The only real hope for anyone transitioning is integration into heteronormative society.

>>40260287
>No culture/myths/legends
There are a lot of stories out there I think of women dressing up and presenting as men. Disney even has a movie about that it’s so common. Most recent one I liked is blue eyes samurai.

>>40261121
I’m a femrepper and find you disgusting. Be the man, buy them shit, take care of your household, pay the bills for them. I cannot stand people like you. No one thinks you’re a man if you’re pulling this shit. I have more respect for myself despite not transitioning. Jesus Christ.

>>40261436
Yea I’m a cis woman and would be down to date someone like you irl. OP probably has spent too much time around the “queer” community. LGBT spaces are shit right now and some kinda white cis men hate club.

>>40261520
Could you explain? I’m not following.

>>40262562
Truth

>>40267867
My ex probably wasn't on long before her detransition so her voice was fine. Still had to shave face though

>>40267911
>stories of women dressing up and presenting as men
that doesnt count when most of those stories women dont live their entire lives as men. And even if they do exist proper everyone says it was a powerful wombyn fighting against patriarchy after they are outed as afab after death

>>40267935
Anon you're a repper... If we went outside I would be called 'he' and you would be called 'she'

>>40267902
>omg i have liiiike suuuuuch a fatty lolz men love to fuck this masculine pussy hole teeeheheee i luuuuuv getting creampied im like sooooooo manly dood #tmam
>>40268122
correction, you would be called it.
>>40267825
i am a bull dyke at heart, im just repressing it now because the end is coming and i want to see the pearly gates

>>40267867
>Don't you still grow a beard?
yes but it's blonde not brown now
>Isn't your skin fucked?
no it's glowing again
>How about your voice? Doesn't it permanently drop?
working on voice training
>Wouldn't you be seen as a tranny?
i'm boymoding

>>40260280 (OP)
breaking news: trans man discovers male loneliness epidemic and groyper pipeline

>>40268188
why do i always hear so much whining about the "male loneliness epidemic" as if it's not just natural selection and the way things are meant to be

>>40268180
>>omg i have liiiike suuuuuch a fatty lolz
I agree with this statement, I have like, suuuch a fatty lolz. Do you have a little butt?

>>40260280 (OP)
Half that is solved by not being fat

>>40268227
i'm just saying no real man would ever say that unironically. you're terminally foidbrained

>>40268392
Because a lot of cis men have flat asses, not fat asses

>>40268392
Stop with the bottomphobia

>>40268099
There is Shikhandi in the mahabharata

>>40260280 (OP)
true

>>40261121
i love gaydens. only worthless ftms are straight ex lesbians. gaydens are the best of both worlds and have cute pussies <3
i hope all ex lesbians here detrans desu

>>40270894
So anon, how old were you when you had your first real girlfriend?

>>40271297
14

>>40271343
explains why you've never grown past your love for underage tomboys then

>>40271376
God forbid a man look young

>>40260280 (OP)
>gaydens and pooners are ugly
uhh, so are the hideous trannies out there, ugly people are ugly. You should be thankful that ftms arent fetishized because that means that whoever you land with is more likely than not genuinely interested in you as a person and not as a quirky sex object
that being said my (cis gay) dream is to marry a cuntboy like AidenDeanX, @ChanceHartXXX or @AndressFTM

>>40260280 (OP)
>le wall of text
Womanbrained

>>40273581
>ftms aren't fetishized
he doesn't know that ftm chasers are the most deranged of them all....