genuine question from a repper: what is the point of taking estrogen when you’re 100% sure you’ll never be able to pass? seems like it would make more sense to find other ways of coping

It makes me feel like I will someday, so I will keep trying

>>40275223 (OP)
you can't know anything 100% you fucking retard.

>>40275223 (OP)
to stop further damage, to feminise as much as you can so you can feel a bit more comfortable in your body.
why is this hard for you to understand? "if i can't be a woman..!" being trans isn't about being a woman, it's about being dysphoric. do you want to be less dysphoric?

>>40275223 (OP)
When I tried to detransition and be a repper I forgot that gender dysphoria is a gradient of how bad it can be and then it got real bad. Then I went back on it and felt like psychologically calm again.
/blogpost

>>40275223 (OP)
how do you know that? what about ffs? it's extremely difficult for diff ppl, not saying its not, but its not impossible
plus HRT did a lot more for me than i thought it could
i still want ffs but i went from neanderthal to kinda twinkhon

>>40275297
and this? it's just so much easier knowing your body isn't trying to mutilate you
i've been successfully manmoding for almost 2 years soon, it isnt that hard to hide, cissoids dont really know what to look for

>>40275282
>>40275321
Im 100% sure based on various skeletal measurements

>>40275223 (OP)
i dont pass but its givin me enough of a body that iget what i want usually.

Hope i guess

>>40275351
what skeletal measurements?
do you know it's something that can't be fixed with ffs?
and why not at least alleviate your gender dysphoria, even if you truly believe you will never pass?

>>40275389
yes the big one is my giant 59cm skull which is completely unfixable. Also my ginormous 33in underbust

>>40275223 (OP)
mental effects alone are a huge step up

>>40275447
so why not try?
why not try hrt, see how possible ffs is, make it your purpose to get it even if it's really difficult or you're in a bad situation
if you try and you're still fucking miserable about your transition i can't blame you for giving up or killing yourself
to be clear im not doing the le effort passoid bullshit some people are obviously more fucked than others because genetics are evil
but if you have a choice between 100% fucked miserable life or a 1% (i think it's way bigger than this) chance of maybe finding happiness why not try
i don't really know how big or small those measurements are
how about ffs? how feasible is that for you? how much money could you save up

>>40275223 (OP)
because I wanna be able to live calmly, not have to sleep 14+ hours a day, care for my personal hygiene ad not stumble and hit myself on furniture so much anymore

>>40275515
did u not read what I said, ffs can’t fix a giant skull

oh and not smelling like a guy is really nice. i like the way guys smell but i dont want to smell that way.

>>40275447
you could make it.

>>40275528
i understand and im sorry
i've been here

>>40275568
as a permahon sure

>>40275223 (OP)
it helps soften the tranny thoughts, they are still there but there are comforts in the changed you see and the lows are not quite as bad imo

my boobs are tingly its nice

>>40275584
as in i understand feeling like this

>>40275587
if your gd is bad enough you accept that, troon & honmode like the rest of permahons itt. if not, manmoding it is.
OR you keep attention-whoring, clogging up this board, bathing in self-pity and being an insufferable transphobic troglodyte dipshit repper.
jfc get a grip girl you're not special and never were you're just an average tranny.

>>40275223 (OP)
it can alleviate rather than cure. (not saying that this is the case, just accepting your premise and going from there) so you are unhappy living as a man, and you can't live as a woman, okay, but would you rather live as a bald man or as a man with hair? most reppers will say the later and the reason why is obvious.

just because E isn't a 100% cure-all doesn't mean it's not worth taking. if it can make things *better*, if it can *prevent* things from getting *worse*, then it's probably worth taking.

>>40275595
who keeps drawing these low quality tablet gle gles

>>40275629
me

>>40275623
I think repping for life is the best option I’m just too dumb and lazy to commit to it so I end up here

>>40275351
trannies trying to single handedly revive phrenology is something i never would have expected to see in my lifetime

>>40275642
> I think repping for life is the best option
That's not thinking that's your mental retardation showing.

>>40275223 (OP)
Yeah. For some people repping will likely lead to less suffering long term.
But that compulsion will only get harder to fight with time

>>40275684
literally who has actually benefitted from repping and led a happy life
i mean maybe it was slightly easier to rep before transition because you could reason that it's out of your control (not to downplay what these people had to go through)

>>40275651
I’m not saying that you can distinguish everyone’s gender by measurements however the are some ppl like myself that exist fully outside of the female spectrum
>>40275665
I know i could have a good life if I just stopped thinking about identity crap and learned basic social skills, I just haven’t found the motivation to do that yet

>>40275223 (OP)
Anon, you need to understand there are a lot of filter frauders out there and the effects of estradiol are way more mild than you've been led to believe.
You can safely take it and there's almost zero chance it will radically alter your appearance to look like a woman. You have about a 96% chance of breast growth never going beyond an A cup meaning it can be played off as the same kind of gyno about 50% of men develop spontaneously when not on hormones. And it does so little to the face that trans women actually have debates online pretty often about whether it has any effect on the face at all.
Stop falling for delusional frauding pinkpill gooner propaganda. Just take the hormones if you want and see for yourself how little they do.

>>40275713
> I know i could have a good life if I just stopped thinking about identity crap and learned basic social skills, I just haven’t found the motivation to do that yet
I thought the same, then I got those social skills, then I did the entrepreneur shit, then I moved out lalalalala.... still trooned in the end because the desire didn't go away.

>>40275722
I know estrogen does nothing that’s why I’m asking why ppl do it. I don’t think transition is impossible for everyone tho, sex dimorphism isn’t really that significant in humans just some portion of males are permafucked like me

>>40275722
haha nice try reverse-psychology pinkpillfag

>>40275762
If you know it's unlikely to do anything then why not just take it and see? Either it won't do anything and will only cause you to lose a tiny amount of money experimenting with it for 6 months or it'll do something and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
It's dirt cheap and you can buy it online without a doctor.

>>40275447
that's 98th percentile for women which is manageable. this board overrates head size, cis ppl do not look for that. your underbust is large but if you gain some weight no one will notice it. i don't believe you are doomed based on these two measurements.

>>40275785
bc I ultimately don’t want to be a tranny, that’s like asking someone in pain why they don’t want to try oxycontin

>>40275632
basado

>>40275808
wdym head size is like the most noticeable trait ever. And its the combination of traits that makes it 100% unpassable, like I can’t be 99% percentile on everything

>>40275707
My friend people who have lived their entire lives repping aren't going to say oh actually I was trans all along and then die.
We will never be able to have a measure of happily repped lives.

>>40275223 (OP)
Some dont need to pass as women to pass “trans*” women lol for them that is enough gd relief to have increased life quality to the point medical boards recommend the treatment path.

I'm really glad I started transitioning without ever caring about stupid takes like this.

Fuck the 100% passing bs, I'm so fucking happy I started and kept doing it.

>>40275223 (OP)
I dunno, I knew I could pass before I even got onto HRT.

>>40275223 (OP)
If you were actually female you’d stop replying despite the passing issue

>>40275223 (OP)
being able to cry is a good thing, actually