All this because white trash hates trans people and wanted cheaper eggs

>>40275859 (OP)
good that you now admit trump won because of tranny excess, but doesn't that imply the left should drop trannies?

anyway
>implying there's anything wrong with deporting people who are in the country illegally

>>40275859 (OP)
Can’t tell if you’re talking about transbians or conservatives
> white trash hates trans people and wanted cheaper eggs

>>40275904
liberals will say that America is fundamentally racist and then push a black woman as their candidate it’s almost like they want to lose

>>40275859 (OP)
>building his army for the invasion
The army that's going to deport all the illegals? Got it.

>>40275859 (OP)
Thank you for speaking on this. This is a bigger disaster than people realize. This fucking bill will ruin the lives of MILLIONS.

>>40275904
>>implying there's anything wrong with deporting people who are in the country illegally
you know exactly what the point is, right nonny?

>>40275947
they do want to lose, they'd rather complain about america being racist than have to win, govern, and get blamed for being shit again

>>40275904
nta but the big issues are sports and minors transitioning. idk about sports, but the trans youth could be reframed as a decision between the parents, child, and their doctor. stuff started changing too fast and we live in a country half full of idiots that need more time to understand better. with all the smearing though, idk where this will go

>>40276031
>trans youth could be reframed as a decision between the parents, child, and their doctor
castrating kids is bad even if the parents consent

>stuff started changing too fast
no, it's evil to castrate children

>>40275904
trump already directed the doj to prioritize denaturalizing legal citizens. its only a matter of time before they come after native borns whose family has been here for decades too, only for being discontent with the regime. but of course, you'd love that.

>>40276031
>nta but the big issues are sports and minors transitioning
Dems will unironically allow R's to gut these two positions so that they themselves can back away from them once they see a new shot at winning.

>>40276031
>we live in a country half full of idiots that need more time to understand better.
the "contact hypothesis" for gays and lesbians said that more contact would make the public like them better, which was true

in the case of trannies the opposite has been true
the more the public sees of trannies and understands their goals the more they are disliked

I like how the retards are still pretending they're only after illegals when they're effectively mercs by now

>>40276044
>denaturalizing legal citizens
You do know there's longstanding existing legal pathways to strip citizenship within 5 years of obtaining it if you break certain laws?

>>40275966
Did you know they budgeted to build enough new prison camps to house more than than the entire prison population of the united states?

The US, for reference, holds 21% of all imprisoned people worldwide. The US has more prisoners than China, a country with 5x as many people.

They want to at least add that many more people to these new camps, except

1. the camps will be off limits to the press, to democrats, and basically to anyone outside ICE. This was spelled out, btw. Not a secret

2. these aren't regular prisons where you have like, an address and a way to reach the prisoner. in the new ICE system, you just disappear off the streets and that's it. no one hears from you again, because you have no rights. even Al Qaeda prisoners had rights

>>40276077
the staggering violent crime rates in the US imply they should be building even more prisons than they are planning to right now
probably about 5% of the US population should be in jail forever
that's not even including the fact 40 million people are in the country illegally

>>40276077
>The US, for reference, holds 21% of all imprisoned people worldwide
This has been true across multiple presidencies. Are you trying to argue that the US prison system holds a meaningful percentage of people who haven't broken US laws?
Or is it perhaps we have a lot of people in jail because we have a lot of dumbass criminals in the country?

>>40276072
>>40276097
please get a trip so I can filter you

>>40276110
If you could avoid making irrational spaghetti-spilling posts, you'd probably have less cause to filter in the first place

>>40276108
yes actually. the US justice system is a clown shitshow. just a few years ago a geriatric man was thrown into prison and brutally raped after an AI surveillance tool misidentified someone as him. last year a man who was wheelchair bound for 2 decades was arrested for "fleeing on foot" from a domestic abuse case that supposedly happened a few days prior.

>>40276172
>doesn't know that the wrongful-conviction rate of developed countries are about the same, low-single-digits

>>40276172
Jail*
Prison means conviction

>>40276041
delaying puberty doesn't cause infertility and is harmless
>>40276051
>>40276052
>

>>40275859 (OP)
Finally, Im actually getting what I voted for. I don’t care about any of this social program cutting shit but I want the latinx vermin and state protected/sanctioned tranny faggotry gone

>>40276077
You need that kind of space if we’re actually going to successfully mass deport upwards of 30 million people anon. Unless you’re a latinx subhuman and scared, and in this case, your opinion doesn’t matter anyway.

>>40276267
holy shit, you "people" are fucking awful...

>>40275988
by comparison, when republicans dont do what the base wants, the base just starts writing fanfiction (qanon)

>>40275859 (OP)
Fuck you and your blue states, if only you followed the goddamn rules you wouldn't be such a scared faggot, you pushed everybody to trump and now you get what you fucking deserve!

this is /lgbt/ take your /leftypol/ shit somewhere else

straightest thread here, sage

>>40276286
>>>/r/eddit

tbf the successful implementation of Republican economic policies over the past 50+ years has utterly destroyed rural America, so white voters have no choice but to double-down and continue voting Republican.

Yes, the only thing the Republicans care about is centralizing all wealth into the hands of like 20 obscenely rich individuals, but MAYBE they'll take care of ALL white people...this time.

This time it might work.

>>40275947
Hi, I'm proud to be a democrat who has participated in the last few presidential election cycles.

Yes, we fully believe you are all racist and misogynistic, and you are. We nominate those candidates because we believe everyone should have a right to win fair and square, and are intent on dragging the rest of you into the modern age whether you like it or not.

The Democratic party of 2008-Present (in presidential election cycles) is a historical anomaly that I'm proud of. We will continue to nominate our candidates without restricting them based on gender or race.

>>40275859 (OP)
whats so bad about being sent back to mexico? I've been told it's a great place by lefties, better than the USA even
they're doing them a favor if anything

is it actually practical to deport all the mexicans? as far as i can tell farms need them for cheap labor I don't think its a good use of our money

>>40275859 (OP)
>ICE
Not my problem

>>40276357
They're not deporting all Mexicans they're literally just grabbing whatever brown people they can find. They send bounty hunters out into the streets and tell them to grab anyone they can find and then they deal with the consequences later. It's a terrorist police state.

>>40276377
Then that's a waste of money, if you can't deport them your just going to be letting them back out.

Seriously though, I really think the cheap labor angle is something they haven't thought about, you see how much people want cheap food

>>40275859 (OP)
And what does any of that have to do with you or lgbt anything?
>>40276288
This thread is literally about ICE getting over a 100 billion in funding, try to keep up nigga

>>40276357
trump is a bleeding heart marxist and cant stand to see these poor brown people be exploited for cheap labor
hes sending them to back to their mother countries so they can find employment that compensates them fairly

as someone who lives in an actual first-world nation i'll never understand how enforcing immigration laws is supposed to be horrible
like yeah it's extreme right now but that's because the American government has done very little about it for decades

>>40276312
>tbf the successful implementation of Republican economic policies over the past 50+ years has utterly destroyed rural America
But NAFTA and third-way economics gutting manufacturing was Clinton's brain-child.

>>40275859 (OP)
I fail to see why I should support parasite illegals.

>>40276402
>you see how much people want cheap food
>doesn't know about farm automation
>doesn't know about legal farm visas
Get in the van, Paco.

>>40276438
Jokes aside though, how the hell does spending federal money and raising the cost of farm labor help our country here? It just seems like something that gives retards a boner.

>>40276438
Oh my Fauci… trump what the good guy all along,…he saved these people oppressed brown people from capitalism… Now they can be free from the evils of the whyte man…

>>40276459
I live around farms, they have a bunch of guys show up and then the guys pick shit off the plants. I don't think screwing up that system is going to help anyone. The ag lobby already begged trump for exemptions from ICE raids.

>>40276470
>It just seems like something that gives retards a boner
that describes like 99% of politics

>>40276067
they arent pretending. thats just the lie they tell to us, because we're the enemy. republicans want mass killings. republicans believe any GNC male is inherently a degenerate and a pedophile so theyll have no qualms plucking them off the streets to be sent to max security black sites where they will be horrifically and brutally raped and beaten to death. in fact, they want that to happen. GNC females on the other hand are innocent victims of evil predatory males and need to be re-educated to be perfect breeding stock, because women shouldnt be allowed to think.

>>40276481
Sure thing Paco. But we're not interested in slave labor to pick the cotton. You still have to go back.

>>40276492
yeah but most of the time it doesn't cost 175 billion goddamn dollars start riots and fuck up the price of food

or maybe it does...

>>40276503
>yeah I wanna spend 175 billion dollars to make the economy worse because I care so much
Stop pretending your such a nigger lover, I know you are more racist than I am.

>>40276077
>1. the camps will be off limits to the press, to democrats, and basically to anyone outside ICE. This was spelled out, btw. Not a secret
>2. these aren't regular prisons where you have like, an address and a way to reach the prisoner. in the new ICE system, you just disappear off the streets and that's it. no one hears from you again, because you have no rights. even Al Qaeda prisoners had rights
source? not that i dont believe you ive just not heard about this yet

>>40275859 (OP)
Isn't he just going for illegal immigrants?

>>40276470
Why do you want your crops picked by slaves?

>>40276540
essentially, and the american left (neoliberal center) has made it their hill to die on that countries shouldn't have borders
good luck in 2028 i guess

>>40276546
Why wouldn't I? They came here voluntarily and work for dirt goddamn cheap.

You explain to me why you wanna rack up our national debt to fuck that up.

>>40276540
for now. then theyll come for trannies

>>40275859 (OP)
All this because trannies REFUSE to shut up.

>>40276546
i dont but the fact is thats how our food economy works. you cant just take out a vital part of a machine, refuse to replace it, and then expect it to fix itself

>You cant just deport people who are in this country illegally
lol, watch this

>>40276528
This is exactly what's been going on. For example, do you know that there's a gay barber who was taken by ICE and has never been seen or heard from again? Just gone. That's what they want for all their opposition. America is not safe, it is a fascist police state. We have no rights anymore unless we fight back

>>40276648
>thats how our food economy works
Not anymore, haven't you paid attention to the 2025 election and this reconciliation bill? Guess you'll just have to deal.

>>40275859 (OP)
this is unironically americas 2nd reagan moment
this will have a negative effect for so so many years
>>40276591
you arent arguing with logic you are arguing with feelings, most of these people still believe immigrants dont pay taxes despite most deportations being done through cooperation with the IRS

>>40276675
He was also a Venezualen who entered the country illegally

>>40276671
you could, its a waste of money is what it is

>>40276696
generally people who enter the country illegally should still get court dates

>>40275947
>>40275947
the DNC is 100% responsible for trump. like seriously any good politician could have beaten him, Biden did it easily and he's not even popular or charismatic. If the dnc let Bernie win the primaries all 3 times, we would never have had trump win, and america would still be a country. I hope Canada absorbs america

>>40276680
yeah that makes sense, America is truely in the shitter when you can't get a bunch of white southerners on board with cheap labor from brown people.

free speech is back, and to anyone who speaks out against it: we're coming for you.

>>40276680
>most of these people still believe immigrants dont pay taxes
Using stolen SSN's is only required for jobs that even bother doing I-9 verification. Entire industries like construction and the trades don't bother and pay under the table.

>>40276722
>I hope Canada absorbs america
please no

>>40275965
trump has talked about deporting us citizens on multiple occasions

>>40276738
trump has said everything under the sun, I would be more afraid of his actions or what people around him say

>>40276727
saving the white race by forcing them to do back breaking manual labor and repealing all regulations so they get ground up in factory equipment. thank you BASED donald trump elected by yahweh! america first, god bless Israel! #MAGA

>>40276708
This has also happened for a bunch of Venezuelans who entered legally:
https://www.cato.org/blog/50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law

>>40276708
Legally, not if they entered the country within the last two years, and not if they have gang affiliation.
Due process "rights" for noncitizens are basically fake anyway. They aren't required to have lawyers, the judges they can "appear" before are employees of the DOJ and not the Judiciary, and their asylum claims can be overturned on a whim by the US Attorney General.
It's why the Florida national guard is legally being deputized to rubber stamp asylum denials to satisfy due process.

there are like 4 different people doing debatebro shit as the rest of us doom about incoming suffering

are there just alot of cis people who quietly browse waiting for an argument or is this a chaser thing

>>40276769
100% a chaser thing

>>40276776
we should have never accepted chasers

>>40276782
this board became goon city a couple years ago so it was inevitable

>>40276769
im a tranny, i just like to LARP as being pro slavery in some form or another because i think the confederate flag looks cool

>>40276769
>doom about incoming suffering
What are you, a faggot?

>>40276696
He would still be covered by the clauses in the Fifth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution that entitles everyone in America (including those who are not citizens) to due process. You're cheerleading for the destruction of a fundamental law of the US that protects you and everyone you know solely to spite some Mexicans.

>>40277021
>due process
>for illegals
See >>40276760
>Due process "rights" for noncitizens are basically fake anyway. They aren't required to have lawyers, the judges they can "appear" before are employees of the DOJ and not the Judiciary, and their asylum claims can be overturned on a whim by the US Attorney General.
>It's why the Florida national guard is legally being deputized to rubber stamp asylum denials to satisfy due process.
He got them, you just don't like what he got.
For the record, I want him out of CECOT too, but not so he can stay here.

>>40276540
yes but since its not controversial people have to make shit up about 'who theyre gonna deport next'

>>40277032
That sounds pretty bad and the exact kind of tampering with constitutional law that you should be worried about. Their rights are your rights, and you're pretty nonchalant about your rights being diminished to fuck over some nobody.

>>40277057
>the exact kind of tampering with constitutional law
The laws in question have been in place for between 70-250 years. There is no change, you just had presidents ignoring their legal obligations for so long the levers look unfamiliar and scary.

>>40277065
>>>It's why the Florida national guard is legally being deputized to rubber stamp asylum denials to satisfy due process.
Seems like a pretty big change to me. I don't really like this, I think I'll vote for anyone that opposes this sort of thing!

>>40276293
at some point you have to welcome the cowboy apocalypse future hogs just to hear them squeal as the boots they desperately lick crushes them just like the rest of us

>>40276455
THE WORLD WILL END UNLESS ICE IS ABOLISHED
^this is what liberals actually think lol

>>40276591
Because it's unethical to use slaves. The fact that they're okay with being enslaved doesn't make it better, it means they're being taken advantage of.

>>40277084
The laws that allow it are quite old. By all means campaign for retaining tens of millions of illegals, though. See how well that works for you in 26 and 28

>>40275904
arent you already seeing them gearing up to take on the L and G?

>>40276031
the issue is that trannies are fucking creeps
people were willing to let them exist as long as they kept their bizarre fetishes in the bedroom
but now people are realizing that turning a blind eye inevitably leads to them targeting real women and children, so they are taking corrective action
if trannies had policed their own community things wouldn't have to end like this, but they simply cannot help themselves and the "good" ones (if any exist) don't do anything about the bad ones

>>40275947
>liberals will say that America is fundamentally racist and then push a black woman as their candidate it’s almost like they want to lose

>>40276319
>Hi, I'm proud to be a democrat who has participated in the last few presidential election cycles.

>Yes, we fully believe you are all racist and misogynistic, and you are. We nominate those candidates because we believe everyone should have a right to win fair and square, and are intent on dragging the rest of you into the modern age whether you like it or not.

>The Democratic party of 2008-Present (in presidential election cycles) is a historical anomaly that I'm proud of. We will continue to nominate our candidates without restricting them based on gender or race.

most based post on 4chan in months

>>40277494
>the "good" ones (if any exist) don't do anything about the bad ones
we fucking cantttttttt >n< idk what else you want to hear this shit just happens theres no community consensus

>>40277506
well until you figure it out, society has no choice but to dismantle your community

>>40276072
>longstanding existing legal pathways to strip citizenship within 5 years of obtaining it if you break certain laws
And yet only about 11 people per year have been denaturalized in the last half century. Almost as though it's meant to be an extreme punishment and not something applied willy nilly by a capricious tyrant and his pack of rabid christian nationalist zionist attack dogs.

>deporting people who are being exploited by capitalism is bad because... we need brown slaves to keep the economy going

>>40277494
>the issue is that trannies are fucking creeps
>people were willing to let them exist as long as they kept their bizarre fetishes in the bedroom
>but now people are realizing that turning a blind eye inevitably leads to them targeting real women and children, so they are taking corrective action
>if trannies had policed their own community things wouldn't have to end like this, but they simply cannot help themselves and the "good" ones (if any exist) don't do anything about the bad ones
i'm cis and this is an idiotic post. for example, i'm a jew and people are asking me why i didn't do anything about sam bankman-fried. what the fuck do you want me to do, predict he was a fraudster and send a strongly worded jewletter?

anyone who perceives groups in this manner is too low-IQ to be swayed by "the good ones" in the first place

>>40277534
just because laws haven't been enforced doesn't mean they shouldn't be
the thing about mexicans is that they... are not American, nor do they want to be
they want to scam our country and leech as much money and resources to send back home to "their" people
fuck 'em

>>40277540
One day we will achieve Total Populist Rightist Death and it will be oh so glorious. Happy Fourth of July.

>>40277540
>deporting people who are being exploited by capitalism is bad because... we need brown slaves to keep the economy going
it's stuff like this that makes me realize how right hanania is about everything. the right and left just wrap around into the lowest possible value humans

>>40277534
Something you should learn - if the lever exists, and it can be pulled, eventually it's going to be pulled. If you have a problem with that, then work to remove the lever.

Dems won't in this case because they want the lever exactly as it is, just under their control.

>>40277540
>arbitrarily rounding people up and sticking them in hastily assembled concentration camps or sending them to foreign concentration camps where they have 0 legal recourse without any due process is good because they were being economically exploited
Don't pretend for even half a second you give a single shit about any of those people's well-being you nazi dog. Surely if the problem was that they were being exploited general amnesty and naturalization would have solved that. Your inhuman regime is ruthlessly and cruelly assaulting them because it's what you wanted, it's what you begged for. You will not be able to wash the stain of what you are a part of off of your soul in this life or in whatever comes next.

>>40277588
>without any due process
They have due process, you just don't like what they get.
>muh concentration camps
Damn didn't realize we were gassing Mexican nationals, or even holding them longer than a few weeks before shopping them off
>CECOT
Guess they shouldn't have pissed off their home countries so much they were refused reentry.

You don't actually care about anyone in this. You care about the spectacle and how opposing the spectacle makes you feel.

>>40277588
>Surely if the problem was that they were being exploited general amnesty and naturalization would have solved that
>hey its an open border with extra steps
billionaire wet dream

>>40277603
>You don't actually care about anyone in this
That's where you're wrong. An inhuman fascist dog like you could never comprehend this, but there are people on this earth, most people even, who believe in the sanctity of human life and the dignity of the human spirit. These people you have such contempt for are our friends, our neighbors, members of our community. There was a time when I even believed that husks like you deserved dignity and life. But you have shown me too much of yourselves. You can never be part of the society of dignity and happiness, because for you life is only worth living if other people are denied these things. And this is why you must die. It pains me that this is the case, but you've shown me that you will never stop, that your appetites for cruelty and barbarity are unlimited. What other option is there except the bullet?

>>40277659
>the sanctity of human life
You're not being dehumanized by being told you have to go home to the country you actually have citizenship in, Alice.
>And this is why you must die
>What other option is there except the bullet?
Enjoy your knock from the feds, Hiroshimoot shares IPs.

>>40277659
Yep
Racists and homophobes and misogynists don't deserve to live
Intolerance cannot be tolerated

>vote for a party who hates white people or vote for the party who pretends they don't
Why would white trash vote for democrats?

>>40277588
>t. slavery profiteer
what should we do with democrat slavers?

>>40277691
>Enjoy your knock from the feds, Hiroshimoot shares IPs.
Sorry but this country isn't quite a nazi shithole yet (although I'm sure you wish it were). It would be crossing the line only if I personally declared I would commit a specific violent illegal act against a specific person or group. I'm not an idiot anonymous, I don't just toss around violent rhetoric without knowing the law.

>>40277800
>It would be crossing the line only if I personally declared I would commit a specific violent illegal act
Feds can knock for any reason, which you'd know from the Biden administration FBI.
Hope you have a fun chat with an agent

>>40277691
"Legally"
That's your justification, but you don't believe it. I know you don't. You shouldn't care about that because it doesn't affect you at all. You know that, and you know you're lying to everybody. It's a shitty excuse to ruin the lives of others. You have to die.

>ermmm only Democrats are allowed to control everything and do whatever they want
>what do you mean we lost a democratic election!?!

Cmon, admit it. Say that you don’t truly believe in democracy. Cmon

good

>>40276296
Pride is inherently communist. You’re the odd one out

>>40277812
>Hope you have a fun chat with an agent
Unless you personally know Kash Patel I don't think anyone's coming lmao

>>40277800
You’re an unhinged lunatic. Despite how badly you want chaos and open borders and constant endless decline on a national scale it’s not going to happen this time. This time, you lost. Get used to it because these deportations are just the beginning. We haven’t even started yet.

>>40277813
>You shouldn't care about that because it doesn't affect you at all
>20 million illegals using your hospitals and overfilling your classrooms and lowering your wages just doesn't affect you

>>40275859 (OP)
LOVE DONALD <3

>>40277838
You should be well aware by now that glowies monitor this site

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

>>40277843
It doesn't, because that's not the root cause. Even if they weren't here, these services would still be critically underfunded. Maybe if you weren't so fucking retarded you'd know that instead of blaming other people. Or — like I said— you're just lying again on purpose which I'm 99% sure is what you're doing.

>>40277864
>our services are underfunded
>no no, adding an extra 10% of the population onto those services is just fine
You're getting shipped out.

>>40277865
The solution is so obvious that it's hilarious you don't see it. Just increase and improve the services. The problem isn't that we have 'so many immigrants' but that we have so little hospitals, schools, infrastructure. The solution isn't deporting migrants it's slashing the 1 trillion dollar defense budget so that tax money actually goes back to helping people

Far right chud here. I hate all faggotry and homosexuality in general, but I make exceptions for normal. If you’re a regular fag that likes to get fucked in the ass then by all means

But if you’re a troon that that wants to go in womens sports and want to march down Main Street wearing a dildo hat. Degenerate and deviant behavior. You gotta go

Incoming freaks seething

>>40275904
We make billions in tax revenue from them. Someone needs to pick fruit and veggies, janitors, etc. White Americans aren't gonna do it for min wage but illegals will happily do so. We are cutting off our nose to spite our face
>inb4 wellfare
illegals don't qualify and never have. I always see immigrants busting their asses working. You know who I ALWAYS see begging on the street? Americans, who even if given a job opportunity they'd turn it down. They're happier living under a bridge and asking for change

>>40277880
>just pay more taxes so the wealthy can have cheap labor given to them
That's nice, but I have a better idea, you're getting deported.

>>40277849
Yeah and they track you retards down when you say stupid shit like "I am going to personally kill X politician with my rifle tomorrow" because rightoids are literally so stupid that you think you can just threaten to do domestic terrorism online. It's astounding. If they actually gave 1 shit about nonspecific violent rhetoric they would need a small army of feds just to knock doors for the posts made in 1 week.

>>40276044
>denaturalizing

Everyone who was waving Mexican flags destroying and burning property in California should be deported. Fuck them.

>>40277882
Why do you care about that though

>>40277899
...? Am I being baited? I'm not saying more taxes I'm telling you that we should change where the taxes we already pay end up. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>40277907
Freaks disrupt society and morale

If you’re not a freak you have nothing to worry about. Freaks know who they are

>>40277911
No, I like all the other things we pay taxes on. Request denied, get on the plane to alligator alcatraz.

>>40277912
True on paper if you don't know anything about anything until you actually look into it. Countries with the most liberal sexual laws (like the Nordics) have some of the happiest, most cohesive societies in the world. Really, look it up! You'll see I'm not lying to you

>>40277588
>amnesty
you think handing out citizenship to any fucker that wants it will help anything?

I have a theory that the powers that be allowed the fag community to get so out of control so it would cause a chain reaction of turning people against it so they can turn and crush it 5x as hard

>>40277880
american schools already get fuck loads of money on average and are worthless

>Democrats when they lose their slaves….again

>>40277886
>We need slaves!
If your society is built on slaves, it's evil.

>>40277692
>supports feminism
>turns into a rabid dog the moment a woman doesn’t want the 6ft tall man in a dress in their bathroom and sports

>$175 BILLION for the Union. No one fully grasps how bad it’s going to get and how fast it will happen. Lincoln has declared war on blue states and plantations. Now he’s building his army for the invasion

>>40277588
Universal amnesty would just mean more people would be needed for the slave plantations and would see how invading is profitable. So what's your solution? Amnesty again, right? Well, you do that enough more people will keep coming until the country eventually reaches its financial limit and suffers complete cultural and economic collapse, and now everyone is poorer and more miserable than they were when they started off. Except the slave owners, of course.

>>40275947
In actuality, America is more misogynist

>>40275947
The bigger problem with your democrats is that there's a very obvious split within the part, there's a bunch of centrists, borderline republicans, and then there's leftists a la Bernie, and the democrats in power absolutely hate the leftists and their politics. Meanwhile republicans are largely united and they have indirect and sometimes even direct support from centrist dems who'll do anything to fuck over leftist dems. Picrel is your democratic party.

>>40275859 (OP)
Trump sucks but if we at least get rid of the darkies that would be a consolation prize. Not getting my hopes up though he will probably be ineffective as usual

>>40275859 (OP)
Mass deportations are the only good thing Trump is doing lol
Oh noooo lower housing costs and more jobs I just don't know what we'll ever do :0

Send them back. If you can't do the bare minimum of immigrating legally you don't need to be here.

>>40278436
who do u think hes coming for after hes done with immigrants

>>40278450
You specifically, and we're all rooting for him

>>40278450
probably nobody because thats not how things work
>who do you think the Marines are going to go after once they get back from Afghanistan huh?!

>>40278041
They willingly come here and work for these wages. If it was so bad they would leave

>>40278456
>>40278461
hes already setting things up by saying falsifying documents is illegal and having the wrong gender on your identification is falsifying documents
fascists argue in good faith challenge impossible

>>40278472
>If it was so bad they would leave
That's the idea.

>>40278474
>saying falsifying documents is illegal
yes correct
>having the wrong gender on your identification is falsifying documents
yes if you alter your documents you have falsified them
Literally just ride out the next 3 years with an M on your passport then when blue team wins you can go back to having F on your passport. Its not hard.
>people who understand basic laws are fascist
lol

>>40277921
>nearly twice the suicide rate as the UK
>"We are HAPPY!!!"
Lol.

>>40277659
lol I wandered in here from the front page and saw this. I thought this sort of flowery rhetoric was reserved for hippy dippy boomers. Will you still tearfully yap about “the society of dignity and happiness” when everything around you has finally turned to shit? Or is some wandering subhuman gang member going to have to kick your head in before you finally get it? You’re a naive, privileged weirdo.

>>40277886
>nooooo muh slave labor
take a big step back and literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE

>>40277886
>White Americans aren't gonna do it for min wage but illegals will happily do so
Maybe you should pay people more than minimum fucking wage then.
>uhhh but then my groceries would go up
Yeah cunt, its very likely that your "job" at a computer is an overglorfied daycare center for adults, pay a bit more for the actual useful people in the country.

>>40278718
slave labor stops manufacturers and producers from investing in automation
this is why the romans never innovated shit, it's why the south stayed backward, and it's why american innovation halted this century

>>40277907
Some other rando here replying. I care because you’ve made it clear that there will be no end to the concessions being demanded. For every compromise made, you abruptly act like you were entitled to it anyway and begin demanding to insert yourself into some other place or activity where nobody wants you. Everyone has to fake a smile and applaud you while pretending that we’re not incredibly uncomfortable. You’re freaks that behaved like complete assholes the moment society tried to give you a chance, how else are we supposed to react?

>>40276439
>i'll never understand how enforcing immigration laws is supposed to be horrible

the current immigration legal structure is designed to keep people from getting citizenship so they are easier to exploit and abuse. It's bad law and enforcing it is bad. status quo is bad, letting employers clean house whenever their employees object to horrifying conditions. this is certainly worse and also going to fuck up the economy.

also, they're not just getting people who aren't up on their paperwork or whatever. they are sweeping up people who are not deportable even under shitty US law. whatever happened to "better to let ten guilty go free than let one innocent suffer"?

also also, this whole thing is an toe in the water for stripping rights from people. I could object SOLELY because I have self-preservation. literally nobody has protection from deportation if there is no due process. how do you not get this?

>>40278737
This is also true, the worst is the needless areas that we pull these slaves in for.
>make median strip with bushes in between lanes
>import slaves to maintain bushes
>have to close down the roads to work on said median strip
Why the FUCK are we doing this to ourselves, its literally a complete fucking waste of time and this is why we import these people to replace us?

Oh and don't forget
>We need slaves for construction
>The mass slaves we import need places to live
>So we import slaves to build houses for slaves to live in
I hate these fucking billionaire cunts so much, and same to the useful idiots like the one in this thread who suppose their own psuedo enslavement through the gradual replacement of the country and ever lowering standards of living.

>>40278764
if you let foreigners get citizenship it makes your own citizens easier to abuse. you can force them to work longer hours in worse conditions with foreign competition. you can bust their unions and you can have foreign mercenaries oppressing your own people.
this is why right wing billionaires love immigration. the true left wing position is closed borders, strong unions and no immigrants.

Is this thread a legitimate representation of yanks? Are they legitimately retarded enough to believe the "housing crisis" is caused by Mexicans making less than min wage and not capitalists buying up everything?

>>40278764
>the current immigration legal structure is designed to keep people from getting citizenship so they are easier to exploit and abuse.
Then they should get the fuck out. Squatting in the country you illegally entered and demanding amnesty isn't "a legal pathway", it's coercion and we aren't standing for it.
There are 8 billion people on this planet, and none of them are entitled to enter our country

>>40278786
>Are they legitimately retarded enough to believe the "housing crisis" is caused by Mexicans making less than min wage and not capitalists buying up everything?
No one has said this the entire thread.

>>40278779
Yep. Thats why Caesar Chavez used to prowl central valley with other farmworkers and beat the shit out of illegal immigrants until they fucked off.
>>40278786
>its all the capitalists maaaaan
Supply and demand retard. Housing supply is fucked and America's population just keeps going up.

>>40278786
>Mexicans making less than min wage
>capitalists buying up everything
Who do you think pushes for open borders and buys up housing for their ultracheap labor?

>>40278793
reread the thread moron
>>40278795
do you even know what capitalist mean absolute retard
>capitalist: someone who has a large amount of money invested (= given hoping to get more back) in business
>>40278799
yes I'm sure the dirty illegals are living in NYC apartments that cost millions and are the ones driving up construction of luxury apts all the time
because it's projects everywhere being built right

>>40278852
>reread the thread moron
Ok, and it still doesn't exist.

>>40278852
>yes I'm sure the dirty illegals are living in NYC apartments that cost millions
>doesn't know about the NYC migrant hotels

Ah I'm done answering to such tards
have fun with your fascism moron I hope you all get what you deserve

>>40278867
eurosissy btfo

Cant wait for the Russians to nuke you

>>40278867
>tries talking shit
>gets BTFO
>h-hope you get what you deserve
We are, its a country with borders and purged of illegals

>>40276372
I’m kinda with you anon. I’m in a place I need to just keep my head down and not be involved in other’s problems.

>>40276700
giving "asylum seekers" social security is the waste of money
Go to MA and see how many hotels are full, charging the feds $500 a week to house useless migrants

>>40275859 (OP)
>sanctuary cities
nobody ever explains why city governments should be allowed to contradict national immigration policy

>>40279486
Right? Imagine a "sundown city" that refuses to cooperate with the feds on hatecrime laws.
>Sorry mr FBI we cant help you explain why those men were lynched, youre not going to get any help from us. Everyone heres knows not to speak up.

>>40275966
im a euro what bill is this

>>40276052
>the crazy clown on ny times is a real person i interact with actually

>>40278492
glowie

>>40277559
anti tranny shit is straight up just a 1:1 runback of 20th century discriminative propaganda desu

>>40278764
> edge cases
> slippery slope
would you be this mad if they'd just been enforcing the border consistenly in the last decades? because that's what Canada does and no one compares us to litarully hitler

>>40278786
> more people renting
> this won't affect rent prices
> knowing this means i love landlords
a person can have more than 1 thought at once, anon.

>>40277756
>>40278041
>>40278693
>>40278737
>>40278770
>righttards think that the Duce is actually going to fuck over capital
NGMI, the deportations are purely performative cruelty to discipline migrant labor. Not that you soulless freaks even care, you're only referring to them as slaves because you want to claim some sort of moral high ground while you send in the goon squads to kick in people's doors and crack a few skulls.

>>40282073
dont care want them gone
Even if its just 2 million deported its 2 million gone
>soulless freaks
soulless is thinking your country is just an economic zone

>>40278472
it's unfortunate that they can't use their work ethic on their homelands to make them a place worth living in.

>>40275859 (OP)
god I hope trump puts all the american troons in alligator auschwitz

>>40283090
>>40283188
May you die alone and frozen in a gulag, fascisti

>>40283210
your fellow citizens elected a fascist, a fascist is what you are. now you reap the rewards

>>40283210
>enforcing immigration laws is FAAAAASCISSM
¡adios!

>>40276696
This might surprise you but the penalty for entering a country illegally is not to be sent to a rape dungeon concentration camp for life.

Right wingers are savages that have no morals, they dont recognize laws or elections and they will say and do anything like pretend this is all normal

>>40278786
Yes anon fascists control the dialogue right center and left now. By buying up all the newspapers. Social media, news and everything else they control what Americans see, hear and think.
The American experiment is unironically over and its just a matter of time until everyone else is living under a dictatorship like trans people and legal or illegal immigrants already are.

This should be a lesson to the rest of the west on how not to run a country or destroy your democracy

>>40278779
They don't need an excuse to abuse you. Letting yourself be stripped of due process is not going to help that.

>>40278789
You don't believe in the concept of asylum. That is
disgusting but not super relevant. I would refer you to the last point, self-preservation.

>>40279963
I'm sorry, you think repeatedly withholding due process is NOT a slippery slope? Even if they're doing so with initially with undocumented "criminals" (usually people with misdemeanors and shit because the actual serious criminals are in prison)

...and then undocumented noncriminals (and their family members and children and whoever is nearby)

...and then people who are legally here as refugees or asylees, including people literally invited here by our government

...and visa holders, and green card holders, and DACA kids

...and now they're talking about denaturalizing people, removing birthright citizenship, and "homegrown criminals"

at EACH STEP claiming they're only there for that single group.

You're not seeing a slope? Because we appear to be barreling down a goddamn hill. I don't know if you are being disingenuous or if you genuinely don't notice.

Probably it's just that you think you're above the people being denied due process. I assure you, whatever race you are, this administration sees you as a dirty poor (and furthermore, a dirty queer poor) barely above a brown immigrant.

You are not significantly safer. Give them a few years.

>>40276722
>the DNC is 100% responsible for trump. like seriously any good politician could have beaten him
I don't know about the rest of that, but the first part is absolutely correct.
Trump is the result of years of political mediocrity.

>>40286332
> deporting non-citizens
> i swear, it'll be citizens soon!!
yawn. take your reddit spacing & vocabulary back where it belongs

>>40286332
i'm not american btw, and my country already enforces all of these things, no one bats an eyelid.
stop letting your garbage pile up and it won't smell like ass & have racoons all over it when you finally take it out

>>40286769
>take your reddit spacing & vocabulary back where it belongs

the pride you take in being unable to read is really fucking depressing.

They have already deported citizens. Multiple times.

>>40287472
i read what you said sweetie.
you enumerated several cases of deporting foreigners, which a nation has every right to do, then said they definitely will (in 2 weeks i guess) start deporting citizens...
what did i miss? please do tell me, because this hysteria over what is the status quo in every first world country is very confusing

>>40287488
People are not fussing over the existence of deportation or denaturalization. Those processes already existed, legally. They are fussing over doing it with no due process, in dragnets, and to groups of people who are closer and closer to natural born, law-abiding citizens.

>>40287542
Nobody reasonable thinks you need a trial to deport obvious border jumpers. The only reason to suggest it is with the intention of creating a gridlock.

>>40276319
>without restricting them based on gender or race
How about you start restricting them based on likeability and voter interest. Seems like the real anomaly of 2008 is that the Dems chose someone that people would actually grab a beer with. The problem with Hillary and Harris was not that they were women, it's that they were unlikeable women.

>>40287542
>They are fussing over doing it with no due process
again, because nothing was done for decades...
> closer and closer
2 more weeks!!!
>>40287565
indeed. waste of time, money and labor.

>>40276077
>these aren't regular prisons where you have like, an address and a way to reach the prisoner. in the new ICE system, you just disappear off the streets and that's it
Well it's a good thing these aren't normal citizens who have like, a social security number and a W2. In their way of life, they just appear on the streets and that's it.

>>40287542
>to groups of people who are closer and closer to natural born, law-abiding citizens
What does this scale look like lol
How is one an illegal with a record of violent crime but "close" to a natural born law abiding citizen?

>>40275859 (OP)
but you dont ever stop and think about WHY exactly they hate you so much, do you, tranny-kun?

>>40276604
just detransition now then.
>>40276648
did you know that greencards exist?
>>40276754
yep that's what happened and his supporters think that demographic replacement is finally over.

>>40275859 (OP)
I mean I know you're being a falseflagging faggot but they already said they're going to deport brown people who were born here.
And most chud le ebic groypers here are completely fine with that but they will never ever get the white ethnostate they dream of while jerking off their 3 inch cocks in their discord channels.
It's just gonna make life worse for americans in general and contribute to the decline of this stupid pointless country,

>>40276044
>denaturalizing legal citizens
As they should if those citizens don't have 100% european ancestry. Make America White Again.