My mum said I looked nice when she took me to church this morning

>>40298796 (OP)

Hire a polygrapher and ask her if she thinks youre a woman.

>>40298796 (OP)
why does your mom take you to church are you not a grown ass man? how is your mom even still alive?

>>40298861
>not a grown ass man
lol. no.

>>40298853
Why would I need a polygrapher to tell me I'm a woman?

>>40298883
grown ass individual* my apologies emily. im just wondering why you couldnt go to church yourself? did you need assistance fitting in the car?

>>40298883

Lame evasion. You know your mum would fail the test. She thinks youre a dude.

>>40298896
why take two cars?

>>40298905
OHHHHHHHHH.
Maybe learn english? Because that's not what you asked.

>>40298907

In the English language we use context clues to make obvious inferences about what is said. Its bad enough youre an ugly faggot, dont be a retard as well.

You need to resort to this tact because the “my mum does so believe im a woman” argument is not open to you.

>>40298796 (OP)
Hella cute

>>40298796 (OP)
That's really cute :)
My mom is nice about my transition and has given me different clothes and stuff and treats me more like her daughter like asking me about guys I've went on dates with and chit chatting with me and stuff but she won't gender me female in front of my dad and said my dad will probably never accept it, he's nice enough to me but he just pretends like it's not happening and ignores it

>>40298796 (OP)
That's good.

>>40298962
>reddit spacing
thort so

>>40299144
I'm kinda the opposite, mum is trying but I can tell it's hard for her. Dad was actually happy about it because it explained a whole bunch of stuff.

>>40299189
Thanks!

>>40298796 (OP)
why are you going to church, the Christian God tells you not to be a troon in His Book

>>40300741
no he fucking doesn't.

He says come as you are, that's how He want's me. He says he loves me. He says he loves all of us, especially those who are weak.
There are four transgender saints that I've identified, they're all trans men, but still.
>St Wigafortis
>St Euphrosyne
>St Eugene of Rome
>St Marinos

>>40300810
Bible says do not put on the clothing of the opposite sex

Bible says you were knit together in the womb, that includes your gender assigned at birth

Christ says GO, AND SIN NO MORE! And since you know better you should detransition to fulfill the Word!

None of those people were "transgender" either. Wilgafortis grew the beard in defence against being married to a Moor, Euphrosyne became a monk at a time when there were no nunneries, a Pope of Rome is not a tranny, and as for the fourth fine, you found one, but she was expelled from the monastery SHE had fraudulently become a member of.

>>40298796 (OP)
bet your priest undresses you with his eyes and imagines you in a mini skirt and thigh highs.
he is probably desperate to wrap his hands around your throat and choke the life out of you for your satanic influence over him and his congregation.

>>40300838
The apostles and elders, your brothers,

To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

Greetings.

24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

Farewell. [Acts 15:23-29]


You're citing the Jew rules, Christians don't have to follow the Jew rules because Jesus was tortured to death to pay for our sins.

My only commandment is to love you as much as Jesus loves us [John 13:34]. To you that probably sounds trite, something along the lines of "don't be a dick", but in reality I am merely mortal where He is the one true God and I am not capable of that sort of love. And the most heartbreaking thing about that is even in breaking this one commandment Jesus gives me I am forgiven and accepted for all my flaws and failings.

That's genuine love. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. [John 3:17]

>>40301001
> Christians don't have to follow the Jew rules because Jesus was tortured to death to pay for our sins.

You're just going to ignore everything Christ actually said and what Paul said as well then. Gotcha.

>>40301011
QRD what did Christ actually say?
Because it's very clear you haven't actually read the gospels.

>>40301042
The 1st century apocalyptic Hebrew prophet acted according to those premises. "Go and sin no more" is an order to stop all sin, not just the sexual sin you are in the throes of.

Other explanations for trannyism include:
Demons
Temptation (remember offer up your burdens to Jesus, just offer them up)
The first century apocalyptic Hebrew prophet would have considered us to be pretty much effeminate males and we should give up our sins.

>>40301051
Sweety, stop googling individual passages and shit and actually read it.
Also go to church, no silly prot bullshit church, and actual catholic church.

Jesus loves you and there's nothing you can do to change that.

>>40301133
As a Catholic you should know that you aren't supposed to interpret the Bible yourself but to obey the church.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican-says-sex-change-operation-does-not-change-persons-gender

>>40301133
I have read it.

Also if you're Catholic read Theology of the Body, it's about how you shouldn't use your body to give into carnal temptations like troonery.

>>40301133
>>40301230
Some more reading material.
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccatheduc/documents/rc_con_ccatheduc_doc_20190202_maschio-e-femmina_en.pdf
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20240402_dignitas-infinita_en.html

>>40301230
The Church is only authoritative on theological matters.
On transgenderism they are not-even-wrong, they're just dumb.

If I get a sex change it will not change my gender, this is true.
I am a woman now, I will be a woman after I get the chop, my gender will not have changed.

>>40301237
It's not a carnal temptation, it's literally accepting my gender as the one God, not the doctors, gave me.

>>40301264
Yeah I've read it, their logic is correct, they're just misinformed as to what transgenderism really is.

>>40301270
>It's not a carnal temptation
Lol yeah it certainly is.

>>40301304
No it isn't.
We literally throw away our sex drives in the name of our own sanity. It's the exact opposite of carnality.

What you might be doing is engaging in fetishization, which is an observed tendency in trans women to justify their gender dysphoria as "just a kink", when in reality there's nothing kinking about it.

I'm a woman. They told me I was a man and I believed them, but that didn't make me a man, it just made me sick.

>>40301331
No, it's pretty carnal and also goes against 1000+ years of Church teaching.
>They told me I was a man and I believed them, but that didn't make me a man, it just made me sick.
Biblically you would be considered a man, hon.

>>40301356
At the same time the various councils and conclaves were instituting the no-trannies rule, they were beatifying transgender saints.

They actual gospels teach that it's not by following rules that we achieve salvation, it's through Christ and Christ alone.

>>40301386
> they were beatifying transgender saints

Not really, most of the "examples" given are simply "women crossdressed in order to be tonsured as ascetics / monks." It's not the same idea of transgender as, say, Elagabalus.

>it's through Christ and Christ alone

and you ignore how the actual 1st century Jew would have actually reacted to things because it tickles your ears.

>>40301386
>They actual gospels teach that it's not by following rules that we achieve salvation, it's through Christ and Christ alone.
The Catholic Church does not teach sola fida. You are literally a protestant.

>>40301399
St Marinos lived his entire adult life as a man and it wasn't until after his death was his genitalia revealed.
St Wigafortis was literally "turned into a man by Jesus" and subsequently crucified for it.

The fact that they're all trans men is just proof that God likes boys more than girls, further establishing their intrinsic male nature.

>>40301423
It does tho.
It just doesn't teach it to you.

>>40301437
It doesn't. You can believe in sola fide and you can go to a Catholic church, but you are theologically a protestant.

>>40301447
urgh.
What part of “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” are you struggling with?

The point is love. God is love. The Church is love. Once we all rid ourselves of our hate and become loving then... well... that's when the real fun starts.

>>40301437
>St Marinos

Not true, she was ejected from her monastery.

Wigafortis was not "turned into a man," also it is extremely doubtful that a Christian father would crucify his own daughter.

>>40301491
>I am filled with doubt
I'm not.

>she was ejected from her monastery.
HE was persecuted as a man, but upon death the abbot realized the miracle he'd been witness to and begged forgiveness over HIS corpse.

>>40301464
>What part of “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” are you struggling with?
The part where you're interpreting scripture for your own purpose instead of obeying the church.

>>40301729
When was the last time you even went to church?

5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?”
6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
“‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’[b]

8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
[Mark 7:5-8]

They point to the rules isn't to be obeyed, they're to recognize that we're ALL sinners. Nobody can obey all of the rules. That's WHY we need Jesus, and His Church. We are imperfect beings, but God doesn't love us because we're perfect, He loves us because we're His.

6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
[Acts 15:6-11]

I used to be just like you btw, like St Paul before he was blinded by God. Using the law to justify my hate. But I was healed by Jesus, you can be too, just accept His love.

>>40301798
Quoting scripture at me won't work because I, like a good Catholic, do not believe in sola scriptura. All of your beliefs and tactics are protestant.

>>40301884
You don't believe in anything.

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ [Matthew 7:21-23]

I can tell you haven't been to church since you were a kid and are getting your teachings from the innerned. Ironically you need them, like the Jews you need those rules because you don't know how to love.

When you obey Jesus and act with love in all things, those rules stop meaning anything.

Like the Pharisees who hounded Jesus thoughout his ministery you try to trick and trap and use the law to justify you're hate. But it is lawful to do good on the sabbath.

Love in your heart, and trust in your mind. God handles the rest.