Can you be lgbt and religious?

>>40303599 (OP)
I think the fuck not, there is no sanctuary in the lions mouth.

>>40303599 (OP)
you can, just dont worship a rabbi on a stick or a pedophile warlord, shouldnt be too hard

>>40303599 (OP)
Yeah people are always on here arguing about stupid shit like the Pelagian heresy

>>40303599 (OP)
religious yes organised religious no

i have my weird neo-abrahamist beliefs and they are downright insane but anyway

>>40303599 (OP)
i am

>>40303599 (OP)
depends on the religion and your willingness to go with some more unusual interpretations of scripture.
atleast in (mainstream) christianity or islam. some jewish currents would awnser yes, some no so it depends (also with what parts of LGBT they have a problem with can vary).
don't know enough about non abrahamist. but i know at least of one christian heresies that would say that god is evil so breaking his laws is good so if good was against say homosexuality it would be moral to be homosexual.
i think some folk religions have their own regulations and concepts of sex and gender that don't map cleanly to the traditional anglo-european perspectives so there can be all sorts of stuff (like male and female being a matter of initiation therby allowing one to theoretically undergo a different from the asab)

and even if your religion is not accepting, than you are merely living a sinful life according to that religion and that might make people (incl. yourself) feel bad (or much worse) but you'd still be religious and lgbt.
hope that made sense :)
it was fun writing this.
to everyone reading: i wish you a nice day
>>40303656 when it comes to me personally i think my beliefs would be summed up with this quite nicely
>>40303625
if i am not mistaken there are some hints that the pedophilia is a later invention for poltical reasons (legitimizing accounts of his supposedly youngest wife by highliting her purity by making her younger)
also the guy on the stick was as far as we no no rabbi just a walking (unoffical) preacher (that seemed to be a trend back then)

>>40303599 (OP)
Yeah. Just go to your local PECUSA parish and check things out, they're quite welcoming.

>>40303599 (OP)
Superficially, so yes.
But it’s a complex form of self harm

>>40303656
Do tell.

>>40303599 (OP)
i'm christian and trans and am really mentally screwed up

>>40303599 (OP)
I wish I had a Christian trans gf

>>40305354
where you at

>>40303599 (OP)
yes! you just need to remember to whip yourself daily for you sins and you will be tolerated!

>>40303599 (OP)
Being a religious queer is absolutely absurd. You might as well just kys because your religion wants you dead anyway.

Some religious groups are overall LGBT friendly, so yes.

>>40305365
Southern California. Nowhere near you.

>>40305946
i hate to inform you, but extremely correct

>>40303599 (OP)
yes

>>40303599 (OP)
Honestly its probably because I’m trans that I ended up being religious. Christianity is a demon that preys on your lack of self esteem to get you to accept an absurd proposition of their goy jesus. Judaism meanwhile has much more meaningful gendered archetypes. I can see myself in religious literature in a positive light, where people like me live meaningful lives. Sure, its sinful to a degree, but the bible is full of stories of people who couldn’t measure up to a divine standard. To me the message is not to be perfect, but to strive to be better. To challenge my ethical status quo, to question the underlying mechanisms of my identity, to try to understand the world around me transness and all.

>>40303599 (OP)
Yeah, you can be gay and retarded.

>>40307487
If you need religion to be a good person then you are fucking stupid and pathetic

>>40307606
Are you an atheist? Last I checked atheist egoism has a legacy of drug abuse, pornography addiction, science worship, and idolatry. If thats what your ethics get you I’ll stick with the outline given by religion. That we are all made in the divine image, to love your neighbor as yourself, to hope for peace and understanding among all mankind.

>>40303599 (OP)
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>>40303858
>if i am not mistaken there are some hints that the pedophilia is a later invention for poltical reasons
You are completely mistaken. Islam was so unapologetically pedophilic that for centuries Aisha's age was a non issue for muslim scholars, and only in the second half of the 20th century debates started to try to assuage his image as a pedo.

>>40303599 (OP)
Yes, but anything involving an abrahamic religion will require some level of mental gymnastics because the Bible does say to stone the gays and anyone who crossdressed or acted effeminate.

>>40307897
There's buddhism and hinduism which I think can be good alternatives, mainly buddhism.

>>40303599 (OP)
Sure, but you'll probably have to mostly forgo the community part of religion, since homophobia and such are rampant in those.

>>40307576
/thread, if referring to the abrahamic religions.

>>40307720
Damn religious people are crazy, you assume that anyone not like you must be an evil drug doing bad person and are unable to understand the simple idea of doing right because you want to and not because some stupid outline tells you to

>>40303599 (OP)
You don't need religion to have a relationship with God

The religious morale outline exists to tell people to act in a way that keeps society functional even when they don't want to because, believe it or not, most people don't want to. Religion is necessary for keeping the crowd, the herd, at bay. The individuals in said religions who truly want to get close to the divine and God always leave the masses and isolate. Your entire concept of what a "good person" is and "doing the right thing" is built upon Christian values that were foreign to the world 2000 years ago. But anyone hitching their wagon to the word "queer", when "queer theory" as we know it is about transgressing all social norms including the age of consent like jolly ole Foucault wanted and wrote about, I don't expect them to acknowledge and reflect on that. This place is hell and I wish I hadn't been groomed by people like us when I was 12. Thanks for reading my blog!

>>40303599 (OP)
fixed