It's a lot easier to justify an ftm transition in a way that sounds rational even though probably mtf transitions have more benefit on average by boosting smv.

>>40305905 (OP)
this is probably because it's unacceptable to talk frankly about the insane degree of female privilege in the world, while pretending that men are privileged is commonplace

troons dont have smv. they are just fuckdolls for chasers until they get old. a womans smv isn't based on if she can find sex. literal landwhales fuck all the time.
a womans smv is determined by wheter a man actually commits to them.

so yea, most mtfs are deluding themselves with their malebrained criteria for sexual market value.

>>40305962
>a womans smv isn't based on if she can find sex. literal landwhales fuck all the time.
this is missing the point.
a woman's smv is based on whether she can get a HIGH VALUE male to fuck, and preferably, commit.
why do you think groupies and starfuckers exist?

>>40305905 (OP)
This may be a surprise to some people but I didn't transition because I hated womanhood. I transitioned because I have gender dysphoria. Anything else is just body dysmorphia. Similar but different

>>40305978
yeah no, HMV shit is bullshit. Just fucking doesn't count sorry. It's not like trannys can produce offspring.

No commitment = femceldom. And if you believe in "high value" males, why would they commit to an infertile tranny. Unless of course, they are antinatalist redditors (which makes them automatically low value)

>>40305994
Isn't body part of gender?

>>40305905 (OP)
i think women look really weird but most people don't think that. they think women are beautiful, much more so than men. those are the standards of today.
so yes, this sounds like mental illness and internalised misogyny. talking about being a breeding sow and such. only the most terrible of men would ever say things like this. it's such a minority and yet they're parroting it. any trans person who says things like this about their AGAB is immediately suspect.
>>40306005
your brain is so rotten. even IF evolutionary pressure were what informed human sexuality, it's not going to be as direct as that.

>>40306005
why do you think hood niggas are hypermasculine and have a murder rate comparable to african civil wars?

it's because neggresses don't expect much commitment but do want cum from the manliest bucks.

most women will drop their pants for a really high status man. hell, look at what they read.
>having a 3000 year old vampire fall in love with you
>having an aristocrat fall in love with you
>having a billionaire fall in love with you
>having two billionaires fall in love with you
the fantasy of being so OP in attractiveness that you can seduce ultraHMV males is the basis of the whole female psyche

>>40306026
Then why would you say
>...a HMV to fuck, and preferably commit
because you are still thinking like a gay man. Having sex is a non-issue for even the most disgusting of women. If as a troon you can find a man who commits to you and accepts adopting children and so on, that's how you know you made it. Not by the count of guys you fucked no matter how "HV" they are.
Trannies sleeping around like this is just self harm desu.

>>40306026
>is immediately suspect
of what?

>>40306052
A highV man fucking you doesn't count if there is no commitment. You said it yourself
>falling in love with you
Woman want to secure themselves as thr wife/gf/love of the HV man. Being the one night stand doesn't count.

>>40306054
no i don't like the idea of casual sex and i want a family, i just think you're a retard for this lazy popevopsych bullshit you're spewing
a lot of women want to sleep with rockstars like that anon said. are they expecting to marry him? no, they want to raise their status among their girlfriends. they want to feel important. it's the same for fucking a 10/10 guy, whether you like it or not. reality doesn't line up with your half-baked, baseless ideology.
>>40306061
faketrans

>>40306077
it depends on how high status we're talking
why do you think some celebrities and sportsmen rack up 4 digit body counts?
because if you're really famous women will just fuck you

men look deformed compared to women in my eyes yet I still have dysphoria, what gives

>>40306109
You want to be a man and think men look deformed?

>>40306109
i'm autistic and everyone looks like a monkey to me
humans have chimpy flat faces and chimpy little eyes

>>40306120
yeah there's just something off about men's bodies
female features look more natural on others but I don't like them on myself

>>40306095
>>40306098
Yeah, I guess it raises your status among peers and let's you delude yourself and raise your standards way above your leauge i guess. That's why women get hit with the reality brick as they get close to the wall.

The kind of guys they used to fuck drop, and they have to face their real SMV. lmao.

>>40306017
Sure but the compulsion to have a different body doesn't always equate to hating the one you have

>>40306195
I think the dysphoria part would mean hating what you have. If you just want to be the opposite sex and don't hate your own sex then that wouldn't be dysphoria since dysphoria means feeling intensely bad.

>>40306195
Anon... It does. I hate my body because it's different from what it's "supposed" to be. Dysphoria 101.

>>40306141
I wish I was a woman

>>40306052
explain titanic then. girlypop was rich and well known but she slept with a homeless boy cause he was cute and could draw. shrug.

>>40306280
I can feel extreme stress and anxiety about being female regardless of whether or not I hate it. That is dysphoria. This hatred thing has only been tacked on later; they used to test for internalized misogyny you know.
>>40306395
Okay sure, but OP pic is implying wanting to transition because periods and breast milk, not because of an urge to be male, get me?

>>40306555
Nta but that's a movie....

>>40305905 (OP)
>even though probably mtf transitions have more benefit on average by boosting smv.
Trans men transition because they have gender dysphoria not because they want to boost their SMV like amabs.

I'm literally a manmoder I wish I was a woman or at least looked like one, not even estrogen could make me look like one I guess

>>40306587
Some amabs do it for fetish reasons too though. Not all of them are transmaxxing incels.

>>40306575
anon was talking about books. im just going media for media.

>>40306606
Let's be realistic, they're both 99% of time.
No other reason for male to transition to woman.

>>40306625
is it really bad for a man to want to be a woman?

>>40306555
well yeah, leo dicaprio was a 10/10 at that time, that film didn't leave a dry seat in the house
rejecting the rich but boring aristocrat for an even better value male who's creative, cute and committed is a female power fantasy
that wouldn't have worked with a schlub in the role, at all

>>40306635
Yes because it makes no sense and their reasons are hilarious.

>>40305905 (OP)
>It's a lot easier to justify an ftm transition

wut. by what criteria? by all logic ftms have no reason to transition. men are more worthless than they've ever been. we are living in a literal era of inflation when it comes gender worth disparity. The old rule used to be 15 good soldiers are worth one fertile average womb, its closer to 100 men are worth one landwhale now. MtFs are trooning out like factories because they have no other choice but to try to leech better mens value by becoming a cockhole. And thats not even calculating the damage endless immigration ( voted for by women! ) have done to the psyche of men who aren't allowed to fight back for their right of reproduction.

on what fucking planet do FtMs make sense to you?

>>40306697
context nona

>>40306714
context: didn't take his seroquel

>>40306684
u just said women only have fantasies over rich chads? now they want broke homeless boy...and u think its cause hes cute? stop moving the goalposts and changing ur argument...not very smart on your part...
>>40306697
go watch fox news, id rather have a country of brown immigrants than people like u. u are hateful.

>>40306714
Nta. The context is you are replying to a self-admitted diagnosed schizophrenic. Don't.

>>40306688
I'm going it for a fetish

>>40306736
doing*

>>40306736
>>40306749
Should I find this surprising or something? No shit, you're male.

>>40306765
i doubt thats a real tranny

>>40306765
how do you feel about it that my sexuality resolves around being a female and the only kind of sex I can imagine is doing it as a female, so with a man
I'm the greatest incel if you think about it

>>40306727
>>40306729
>>40306731
not an argument

FtM are DELUSIONAL. ''omg my body does things that gives it value from birth this is such a horror show i need to get my validation on tiktok or else im gonna make daddy mad by pretending to be a femboy uwu :33''

Women are all trenders, everything is a vacation to you lot. Trans women will replace you with artificial wombs and you'll learn what true loneliness is

@40306813
>Male aggression moment

>>40306783
I'm just honest about the fact that I'm AGP

@40306813
Lmao at the seethe

>>40306784
>the only kind of sex I can imagine is doing it as a female, so with a man
Not that anon, but I also imagine being female while jerking off or having sex, but I imagine myself as a lesbian.
Not sure why some of you other alleged AGPs act like you need to involve men.

>>40306783
What's a "real tranny" lmfao?
>>40306784
I don’t feel anything about it. Sure, it's retarded, obviously porn addiction gave you “dysphoria.” Many such cases. You think a sex toy equals a woman, which is such a male way of thinking, lol. But I don’t feel anything about it, because there’s an entire sea of amabs who think the same way.
I just love when trans men piss off amabs by saying being male is about having a short haircut and not plucking your eyebrows. They should do it more often.

father card was right about women

>>40306875
>alleged AGPs
I'm actually AGP though. I think vaginas on other people are disgusting and I don't find other women attractive. I'm only meta attracted to men though
>>40306910
I had this before porn addiction though, I crossdressed when I was very young and before porn, I used to read stories of guys becoming women and similar things. I used to really really like them. My dysphoria only started to appear later in life, around 16, when I started to seriously become masculine.
>You think a sex toy equals a woman,
that's not what I think though
I just think that it's hot to be a woman, not because a woman is a sex toy, just having the biology is hot

>>40306813
what? im ftm and wish i could ciscope. i lost all my family and many friends because i transitioned. i would do it all again because i was miserable as a woman. if i were born a man, i don't think id have GD going the other way. none of this has to do with "making my parents mad". you likely consume too much internet content instead of going outside and living your life.

>>40306863
>>40306825
see. look! they they go! the woman cannot exist without falling back into mean girl moding. and these delusional creatures think they can exist in a world where talking shit has consequences.

>>40306966
do you really have to be like this? they're obviously just in a bad mood

>>40306955
they watched their daughter throw away made life for one of horror they thought they dodged when you came out the hole without a penis.

you are beyond selfish

>>40306940
>I just think that it's hot to be a woman, not because a woman is a sex toy, just having the biology is hot
Most of women don't like their body and see our biology as curse.
You wouldn't survive a week when you realise your fantasy is far away from reality.

>>40306991
nta I wish my parents loved me TT

>>40307021
periods sound bad
I'm sorry for being like this

>>40307036
it's not just periods that suck, it's literally almost everything. Most of females want to be males and live in body that doesn't feel like a humiliation ritual 24/7.

>>40307077
I'm sorry for being a creepy rapist man

>>40307090
>t. doesn't know what the most common ftm fantasy is, second only to waking up as male

>>40307116
I don't know anything about FTMs
I hate being a large man, I hate the fact that if I want to talk to women I'm almost always going to be at least 20 cm taller, I have to look down on them and I feel terrible because of that
I don't even fit in with other men
I don't want to intimidate others, I don't want to be tough, I don't want to be tall or to have broad shoulders
puberty cursed me and made me become an ogre, a monster, before it I was a normal human being

>>40307128
if you're a repper, do try hrt. i promise hrt repping will make you feel better even if you don't pass.

>>40307151
I'm on HRT but I don't pass and I have never malefailed

>>40307090
Next time you start thinking about how you wish you were a woman, just remind yourself that all women want to be men. And think about that instead.

>>40307156
time to save up for ffs so you could pass as ftm

>>40307168
it wouldn't make me short

>>40306991
what do you mean 'the horror' of being male?

>>40305905 (OP)
No it doesn't increase smv. Nobody dates trannies.

>>40307257
Some of them can get bichuds and bichads to hang around

Rare
Perhaps even stupid
but possible

>>40307128
>Lucky enough to have all of that
>Still somehow not satisfied

>>40307282
I don't like being manly

>>40307283
You just haven't learn to enjoy it

why do ftms want to be intimidating to others? it's so unsettling.
i bet this is how women feel when mtfs say they want to transition in order to be bang maids.

>>40307293
I've had a lot of time to learn it and I hate it

>>40307294
It's not about being intimidating, it's about not being a weak, flabby sack of shit incubation pod with no other purpose in life