Genuinely give me one good reason to try and troon at 19 if Im going to commit suicide anyway
I have no prospects for the future, nothing to my name and nobody in my life
I dont have anything to lose, but at the same time I dont really have anything to gain either from prolonged suffering and no guarantee of passing

u will never know unless you've tried :) especially if you're going to rope anyway, whats to lose. ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY you're only 19. twink death hasn't even started yet so

>>40307872 (OP)
>no guarantee of passing
>19
tell me ur ignorant without telling me u are
for trans standards you're basically a toddler

>>40307872 (OP)
if you DO commit suicide pls don't post about it on twitter and post a pic of the bridge you jump of before doing so we've had that happen twice recently and it has been horrible for trans optics like at least have the dignity to overdose on sleeping pills or something you obnoxious fucking attention whore

>>40307872 (OP)
Put your measurements on the ANSUR data visualizer and post it here to see if its really joever or not
bideltoid shoulder breadth / hip breadth works well enough i think

>>40307900
>>40307905
We all know 19 is lateshit territory now, true passable trannies start at 14 or under
>>40307930
Im not brainwormef enough to have ever measured myself to even know what these words mean but Im more saying how my face is ugly and Im an incel chud

>>40307946
>my face is ugly and Im an incel chud
Why do you think you're an incel chud? Have you told any minorities to die recently or are you just self hating?
What exactly do you think is ugly about your face?
Can't argue on the incel part, reppers (me included) have a hard time forming relationships and maintaining them.
I'm mainly asking these questions because I want you to think through this stuff to make sure they're actually logical or not, our brains make shit up and we believe it. Not saying you're delusional or anything, but repper self hate can be really overboard at times...

>>40307946
you quit with that shit right now
excuses excuses
the brave aren't fearless, but simply aren't controlled by fear

>>40308002
Im self hating
My face just looks ugly theres nothing specific that could be fixed, everything has to go
And yes I never had a relationship not eve platonic ones
>>40308009
Im not brave, I just want to be at peace already
Im a good for nothing coward

>>40308058
do u think passing trans women are where they are because they got everything handed to them? no, they fought for their womanhood, they fought for their presence, they fought to be who they are. I had to be brave and fight to be the woman that I am today. so you're not getting anywhere with that mindset

>>40308058
well, hate to be cpt. obvious but u ain't gettin peace if u let dysphoria get worse cus of body changes

>>40308153
>>40308155
Thats why I opt in for suicide so easily
Im not strong enough for anything, as evident by how shit my state of life is besides the tranny shit

>>40308183
That's probably Repper's Depression (term coined by me right now).
You feel weak as shit because most of your energy is going towards staying sane and somewhat stable on a shitty situation.
You should recover more strength by decreasing misery, so at this point it's just a simple decision
>stay miserable forever and probably rope later
or
>try to do something, no matter how small, in hopes of recovering
What are the things you can do at the moment? You mentioned not having anything to lose, so I'm assuming you can probably buy DIY or something like that.

>>40308183
suicide quite literally solves nothing
but i understand the impulse, it's the ultimate escape. that's why convicted criminals love it

>>40307872 (OP)
if u got nothing its worth doing because it may give u something. good luck anon.

>>40308153
>do u think passing trans women are where they are because they got everything handed to them?
most of them yea

>>40308275
happy hatecrime to you
named after a dogshit state too

>>40307872 (OP)
>I dont have anything to lose
exactly
how possible is ffs for you? if you need it

>>40308259
Im broke as fuck

>>40309000
How broke? DIY HRT is really cheap when compared to how long it lasts. Are you able to get a job? It doesn't need to be forever, just until you can afford to buy the stuff you need (two months at most unless your country's economy is in shambles).

>>40309093
Living in eastern europe type of broke

>>40309102
That doesn't answer much. What's your financial situation? Living with parents? Already have a job, but can't afford anything besides necessities? In debt?

>>40309154
Poor living with parents and a high school dropout
Life is miserable

>>40309169
Again, is there anything stopping you from getting a minimum wage job?
I'm not gonna tell you how to live your life, but if you want some guidance I'd probably do something like this:
>get a shitty job to earn the bare minimum, do that until you have some money to order hrt (keep living with your parents)
>focus on getting a GED equivalent in your country (maybe quit your job right after if you don't think you can do both at the same time)
You're probably not getting any plastic surgery soon, though, but an e vial was 50 euro on astrovials last I checked. Lasts up to a year or so no problem
That's a start. Easier said than done, but it's probably a path you can follow.
Staying still is just gonna make things worse, I'm afraid.

>>40309259
Best reply yet, thank you!