At least try dude…

>>40310156 (OP)
>At least try
No.

>>40310156 (OP)
sorry for being both

>>40310156 (OP)
Still smaller than my ribcage why try if there’s no hope and no not gonna detrans bc I suck at being a man too

but I'm tired

>>40310169
then rope

>>40310177
Fucking pit in the money time and effort dude

>>40310156 (OP)
gender is just pretending, effortmaxing is just showing how alienated you are
but nobody understands that on this board

>>40310466
>alienated
how?

>>40310480
alienation of the transgender individual from their own experience of gender by trying to fit to the current norms of whatever gender people say exist. People with a beard wearing a dress might be frowned upon by society but they are courageous enough to live comfortably on their own terms. People who make a lot of effort too "pass" are just blue pilled, alienated and sheep-like. It's nothing to be proud of.

>>40310433
Money and effort doesn't change shit, had ffs with a top surgeon and some minor procedures with a different surgeon. Still look 100% male, doesn't matter that I got good skincare, haircare, know how to do makeup. Nobody sees me as a woman, desu at some point you accept you're just gonna be a man. Knowing for sure you're never gonna be a woman is better than uncertainty.

>>40310156 (OP)
don't care, just keep doing my jabs

>>40310563
Cause you are prolly a boymoder and pass

>>40310506
> People who make a lot of effort too "pass" are just blue pilled, alienated and sheep-like.
or y'know, they're just dysphoric transexuals?

>>40310585
dysphoria is a symptom of alienation

>>40310591
you got that the wrong way around

>>40310570
nah, i'm old

>>40310156 (OP)
>I think
And I don't care. You'll get to tell others what to do when you become Big Brother, and not a moment sooner

>>40310596
I could say that to you too

>>40310609
no because alienation is a symptom and gender dysphoria is a cause.

>>40310617
I mean alienation in a marxist way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_alienation

>>40310466
Ehhhhhh I half agree. Gender is indeed a performance art, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't put any effort into your performance.

>>40310625
I kind of agree. You should put in as much effort as you want/feel comfortable with, but you're the one to decide that and not society or other people like OP implies.

>>40310621
ok too tired and uninterested in marxism tho to read that. maybe you have a point idk

>>40310635
put a bookmark on it lol

>>40310634
Completely fair take

>>40310156 (OP)
sorry for being an ugly hon. I'm too busy trying not to kill myself all the time to put effort in.

Time and effort are for hons. I have genetics

>>40310156 (OP)
>>40310216
kys
>>40310537
THIS

I hate threads like this
It is always the ugliest hon telling every one else what they have to do to be ‘trans enough’
Like baby maybe being a tranny was your goal but i wanted to pass as cisf….
If u cant pass as cisf, all the effort doesn’t mean anything!

>>40310156 (OP)
So true

>>40310466
I'm a 30 yo cishet male and I don't feel like I'm ever pretending to be a guy when I walk or speak for instance. I have a normal voice for an average guy, not super deep and I don't try to fake a deeper voice. I'm not hypermasculine and I'm not trying to be manlier, I'm just a regular guy. What part of that would be a performance? this just sounds like cope.

Effortmaxxing is so real

>>40310156 (OP)
I stopped reading after completely. I agree

>>40312371
> I don't feel like I'm ever pretending to be a guy
> I'm just a regular guy
> I have a normal voice for an average guy
Yet you seem to have a pretty good idea of what is supposed to be a "regular guy" and what you could do to not be that. The parts of the performance that you don't see in your life are just the ones you are familiar with. You haven't realized what they are because you probably haven't experienced any other way of living. When you change your social gender, having to do a lot of things you never did really highlights the performance part well. You should check transmasc experiences to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Male performance is usually about the way you dress (wearing shirts and pants), the way you act among others (looking or not looking gay), what you do in your free time, typical know how associated with men (fixing stuff ...)
It's pretty cliché and most men don't tick all the cases but they all tick at least some of them

You aren't owed passing, chud

>>40310506
>not wanting to be assaulted is actually bad because trannies should destroy gender for ME
>why yes I'm a cis woman married to a man and also a housewife, how did you know?