Whites will never acknowledge black transwomen
I have been dysphoric since I was 13

ok but are you a nigger or a nigga

>>40317988 (OP)
Love my chocolate coloured queens
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>>40317988 (OP)
>>40318001
>>40318014

>>40317988 (OP)
plus sized black trans queen for the american congrees heil fauci

Black people can be transgender aswell but its impossible for white people to acknowledge this, why?

>>40317988 (OP)
I acknowledge you but you have to send me your BBG (Big Black Gock) in exchange.

>>40318136
That doesn't exist. Its a myth. Like how western countries are still racists or western countries have a large chunk of the population still act overtly racists to minorities.

if a white person doesn't acknowledge a black transwoman's existence does the black transwoman exist?

>>40317988 (OP)
They don't really do that because most black fems are loud and repulsive, let alone trans black women. Most transphobes secretly love trannies but they usually don't love black trannies. And when one is hot, it's treated as the exception rather than the norm.
>t. Bi dude in the dating scene

all the replies in this thread depress me with how racist they are i need to leave 4chan

racism towards black trannies is just jealousy desu. negresses have naturally broader shoulders, stronger jawlines, more t, etc. they're also trashy and loud like men, so you could put next to no effort into passing and you'd still be a black kween

>>40320387
I don't think acknowledging is racist. It's just facts. Black fems be ugly most of the time.

why tf u basing ur value on white people retard also like the best digital music artist artist are black and trans

>>40320513
because the beauty standards of western societies deem non-white and particularly black features to be ugly. Especially in north america if thats where you are

>>40320631
>>40320513
Also its more than likely that you're just straight racist and this is in no small part your own personal bias

>>40320567
Are you supposed to be responding to someone? Also, most successful transitions are based around neoteny. Despite what you see on this board, most white people start fairly neotenus (unless the got Neanderthal genes) with most hons coming from simply starting too late. Blacks unfortunately are not the case. We're fairly masculine from day one with very few exceptions. That plus how the way black culture has influenced black lgbt people has made most black fems undesirable. I'll still definitely fuck one but it'll mostly be because I'm having trouble getting with a white or any other race. Most guys are in the same boat with only using black fems as a emergency card when they can't get play. If given the choice most bi and/or trans person would never go for a black person unless the black fem is topping. Surprisingly, this is were black fems shine the most.

I'm not saying blacks can't pass but those are usually the exception, not the rule. This is why we rarely see black femboys.

>>40320631
>>40320655
T. >>40320660 anon
I'll definitely acknowledge that our beauty standards have been influenced by western standards, but at the same time we really don't have much history with femininity in AMAB with the only exceptions being that one black music group that wore makeup to not attract white women (forget name), prince, and RuPaul. The first two were meant to attract women and RuPaul is a drag queen so I don't think that counts. We not built for that anon (most of us at least).

>>40317988 (OP)
Lemme suckle your scepter, Queen.

>>40317988 (OP)
i unironically 1000% support black trans women. they do the vast majority of trans activism including during the most precarious moments of our right in the past. they face the vast majority of social consequences for being trans(murder, abuse, rape, housing and employment discrimination). and then receive the least respect. i am black trans women’s strongest soldier, genuinely. as a group they have suffered so much and done so much good and deserve so much better. down with racism, sexism, and transphobia!

t.white tranny

>>40321550
>they face the vast majority of social consequences for being trans(murder, abuse, rape, housing and employment discrimination). and then receive the least respect.
whos doing this?

>>40321573
cis people, racist pigs attacking trans women forced into prostitution, systemic transphobia making it harder to get employed ANYWHERE. and yes, cis black men to an extent but they are not solely responsible for the discrimination, not by a long shot.

>>40321573
Men of all races at the behest of the white pussy haver who told them to do it or they're gay.

>>40321585
they are just responsible for 100 percent of the murder

>>40321595
mentally deficient statement. if you don’t think white pigs and johns are responsible for a large portion of dead black trans women than you’re too racist to see reality

>>40321607
could you post a news article from this year of a white man killing a black transwoman?

>>40321615
i’ll just post the stats fag. https://chprc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/2024_Halliwell_VAW_characterizing-documented-fatal-violence-against-black-transgender-women.pdf i never denied black cis men kill black trans women. however if you’d care to read you’d understand a lot of it is intimate partner violence, not random attacks. also you’ll note perpetrators were only identified in 58% of cases. i think it’s likely that more of the unidentified perpetrators are white due to more systemic power and less police oversight.

>>40321661
>. i think it’s likely that more of the unidentified perpetrators are white due to more systemic power and less police oversight
>Source:it came to me in a dream
Not Americans but wouldn't it make sense with how segregated your cities are and black tranny prostitues hang out in ghettos mostly I assume that the majority is still black? I mean you could make the argument either way I'm saying.

Still won't acknowledge black trannies though, whatever that means.

>>40321724
okay well think about it. 58% are identified, 42% are not. who’s more likely to be identified and persecuted in the case of a murdered black trans woman
a) her partner that killed her perhaps due to internalized homophobia
b) a group of transphobes who killed her in a hate crime in public
c) a white cop who killed a black trans prostitute at night with no one around

obviously the white cop is by far the most likely to get away with it. so from that i posit that of those unidentified, a higher percentage of them are most likely white due to the fact that they’d be more likely to get away with it and thus remain unidentified.


also i agree with your point as well that location matters. obviously the demographic most present in an area is going to be the demographic most likely to kill someone also in that area.


you should acknowledge black trans women. they have it rough and they deserve support.

>>40321661
why did you choose to cite the abstract which includes incidences where the race of the perpetrator wasn't recorded? you aren't trying to deceptively cite articles to downplay the incidence of black men killing black transwomen who you respect so much or something are you?

>>40321765
No I totally get your point. But without data there isn't any conclusion to draw to this specific issue. Trannies are hated so much it's basically allowed to kill them, especially if they're sex workers.

I have been asking what the fuck "acknowledging" several times with no answer. That they exist? Who is doubting that? That I should think about them? I don't think about black American tranners less than others, I don't really give a shit though? Like I don't think about idk Russian tranners much either right lol doesn't mean I hate them

>>40321795
Like this seems terminally narcissistic in that American idpol fashion, that some groups deserve more of your brain power fot XYZ reasons. But that's pointless and if anything deeply racist, I don't "acknowledge" any group because what the fuck does that even entail.

>>40321787
no. i’m not. there’s already been quite a bit of discussion about why black cis men are the majority of killers of black trans women. it’s down to location, who the community is in that location and thus who surrounds the black trans women. it’s who they’re in relationships with, and also who is most likely to actually be identified and persecuted in the killing of a black trans woman. i have no trouble believing that the majority of murders committed against black trans women are by black cis men but it’s due to factors like higher rates of poverty and therefore more crime in general in black areas, and of course persecution bias as aforementioned.
>>40321795
yeah it isn’t substantiated with data by its nature unfortunately. you can’t know the demographics of perpetrators who were never caught.

i guess the acknowledgment is that black trans women do exist, yes, because a lot of people from all sides seem to think being trans is some western whites only phenomenon. also that black trans women face a lot of unique challenges which other trans women don’t.

>>40317988 (OP)
why should i ??>>40317988 (OP)

>>40321825
i don’t think it’s that you’re supposed to think of them during your down time or anything, just like in a discussion of trans women if it’s pertinent you acknowledge black trans women are part of the community. it’s more so just background knowledge to keep in mind. and you’re probably thinking “well duh i already do this doesn’t everyone?” and the answer is no. a lot of people are just have a lot of ambient ignorance and don’t see anything outside of their own bubble

>>40321795
>I don't think about idk Russian tranners
Hy и пoшёл нaхyй гaндoн

>>40321838
>i guess the acknowledgment is that black trans women do exist, yes, because a lot of people from all sides seem to think being trans is some western whites only phenomenon. also that black trans women face a lot of unique challenges which other trans women don’t.
Being trans if anything is associated with Thai "ladyboys" who are extremely fetishised, being in Europe.
I don't see why I should talk about an extreme minority of black tranners though. Other minorities (like brownoid wog Arab tranners) are way more hated, despised, and literally the subject of Israeli genocide, but I should care about relatively extremely privileged American tranners? Because they're black? This is extremely American-centric and even then, black people are not the ones deported by ICE in Murica. Please stop the oppression Olympics, the fact people talk about black Americans that much is the very proof they're not at the bottom, otherwise no one would give a shit, like Hispanics, Arabs, and other browns.

>t. brownoid

>>40321857
I mean we wholly agree in that but I still think that's extremely American-centred and imho quite ironic in that sense.
No one gives a shit about African from Africa trannies. Like at all.

I also don't believe there's a community fwiw. When I was part of the "trans community" I got raped by trannies so I'm done with that too.

>>40321866
Idi na huj cyka blyet

>>40321838
so you acknowledge in the study you cited, where data on race was available 92.9 percent of lethal homicide against black women was committed by black men?

>>40321875
>No one gives a shit about African from Africa trannies. Like at all.
Truthnuke, fuck op

And honestly fuck all Americans while we're at it, you mutts ruined our optics for ages.
>>40321879
Я твoй poт cвoим хyeм eбaлa выблядoк

>>40321887
>Я твoй poт cвoим хyeм eбaлa выблядoк
Based Russian tranner o7

>>40321883
sure man if you wanna just blow past every single piece of nuance and explanation for that data and obsess over the raw number without any context go ahead, but it doesn’t actually make the point you think it does. why are you so eager to ignore persecution bias and location?
>>40321867
i mean you’re not even wrong that the global south is very much ignored by americans/the west as a whole, like i can’t disagree. i still think black trans women are near the bottom of the totem pole in american society but obviously every american benefits from being in the imperial core relative to non-americans.

as for the stereotype thing the one i hear the most is the “all trannies are affluent white liberals doing it for woke points.” i even hear it from the “left” who wants to ignore hijras and kathoeys to pretend that being trans is somehow a white only thing. of course stereotypes of communities vary based on where you live so yk, both can coexist in reality.

>>40321875
i’m so sorry that happened to you. to be real the trans community can be extremely alienating i’ve found that too. that being said there’s strength in numbers and trans people have a lot of enemies.

>>40321866
Completely random question but why has there been such an influx of Russian posters here this year? Have you guys always been here and only started posting in Cyrillic recently, or did some new Russian internet censorship bullshit force you to find new social spaces? I've noticed Russians popping up all over other boards too, and none of them seem like federal agents.

>>40321943
by nuance you mean your fact free speculation about a large cohort of white men killing black transwomen and receiving no legal repercussion and also leaving no trace in statistical data where perpetrators of lethal violence against black transwomen were prosecuted? do you have any evidence that these cohort of white men actually exist?

>>40321943
>. i still think black trans women are near the bottom of the totem pole in american society but obviously every american benefits from being in the imperial core relative to non-americans.
Yeah we basically agree. To my non-American eyes this mostly reads as "care about your (incl. Black) superiors who want to eradicate you" and yeah I think the online world is still way too indulgent with Americans being so self-centred.

Yeah that definitely sounds like a very American framing lol, I have seen that online because I sadly have to live in a world inundated by American bs. But it doesn't seem congruent to a non-American/Anglo world.

But yeah, it's just a question of framing. It just annoys me hanging out online among supposedly other PoC and it's like 99% black Americans. Which like, sure cool, don't advertise it as a worldwide PoC place, especially if you're gonna go on an on about how you hate browns and whatever and talk about petty shit like "Omg my hair type isn't represented enough" meanwhile browns just don't want to be bombed daily
>i’m so sorry that happened to you. to be real the trans community can be extremely alienating i’ve found that too. that being said there’s strength in numbers and trans people have a lot of enemies.
Ah thanks dw, been a while. But it's made me extremely wary of being drunk with people other than very close friends I know I can trust. And this happening made me persona non grata in the trans community where I'm from because I was "no fun" and ofc everyone stayed friends with said tranny rapist. Every single person. All of them pretended to be my friends.

>>40321943
and like another thing is western trans women focus on the most oppressed in western society not just due to eurocentric bias(although it’s that too) but also because it’s the groups of trans women that we can actually help. like i know black american trans women, i can help them directly. i can advocate and put pressure on the levers of power where i live to change the system in their favour. in contrast i can’t really affect political change in africa because i don’t live in any african nation, i don’t have a good grasp on the politics of any african nation(best i have is south africa which again is also eurocentric due to its status as a former colony). i can’t really meaningfully or effectively advocate for trans women in the global south the way i can for trans women in the west where i live. which of course is another unfair disadvantage to global south trans women. basically what im trying to say is the situation is shit, i’m just trying to do what i can where i can. if im ever in a more advantageous situation i can expand my advocacy, but i mean there’s not much i can do as a broke white trans woman who only speaks english for trans women in the global south.

>>40321956
Our shithole board closed down the tranny section completely, the owner is an azeri transphobe and posting is concentrated on /b/ with every other board barely alive. I'm happy my brethen are making it out
>>40321980
Literally just relax the visa rules. Right now we're considered a risk just for being trans and denied opportunities

>>40321980
I don't think any trans woman can do anything lol we hold no institutional power. I mean if you're rich sure go ahead but you're not so...
But yeah where I live rn (Scandis) there are barely black people, the hated minorities are Roma and Arabs (although black people still suffer from racism because whitoids gonna whitoid but yknow there's not much political force behind it specific to here.) I think that's pretty valid for the entirety of Europe too.
Personally I don't advocate for anyone except myself, I have enough issues rn to not need to concern myself with activism lol.

>>40321973
>leaving no trace
well they did actually leave a very small trace in the data. and also the speculation is not fact free it persecution bias is a known quantity and i see no reason why it wouldn’t apply here. also no that’s not the only point i brought up.
>>40321974
>Yeah we basically agree. To my non-American eyes this mostly reads as "care about your (incl. Black) superiors who want to eradicate you"

yeah living outside of the imperial core is hellish. to be real if america fell it would be worse for americans but a lot better for everyone else. even if it would make my life worse i’d still like to see the american led world order fall in my lifetime, and hopefully replaced by something better, less warmongering and exploitive.

as for what you’ve said, again i can’t express my sympathy enough. i’ve heard similar stories from other survivors, of how their friend group just sided with the “charismatic” extroverted rapist over the more withdrawn victim. you’re not alone in this, but idk if that makes you feel better or not. it’s so fucking shitty. the guy who raped me is just living his best life right now, but i never said anything about it so it’s sort of my fault. i was too scared.
>>40321986
i mean, were it up to me i would happily institute a policy where trans people from all over the world could claim asylum here, and i would support any politician or party working for that to happen.
>>40322002
yeah it sucks how disenfranchised we are. even the trans politicians in the west like sarah mcbride are completely fucking spineless and useless, amoral self-serving ghouls. as for activism, i engage on occassion for causes that matter to me(such as trans issues, palestine) but i am also in an okay place in life where im able to do that. like my living situation is fairly stable as is my source of income. being able to go to protests and the like is a privilege, but one of the better ways to use your privilege if you have it.

>>40321986
>Our shithole board closed down the tranny section completely
Двaч? I didn't know it had a tranny a board.

>>40322039
I want to see America fall too but I don't wish harm to the (minority of) innocent people in it even though sometimes we say we do cuz we're so fkn tired lol
feels so alienating and then when you disagree with yanks theyll always make you to be an imperialist monster and silence you or whatever in leftist places

>as for what you’ve said, again i can’t express my sympathy enough. i’ve heard similar stories from other survivors, of how their friend group just sided with the “charismatic” extroverted rapist over the more withdrawn victim. you’re not alone in this, but idk if that makes you feel better or not. it’s so fucking shitty. the guy who raped me is just living his best life right now, but i never said anything about it so it’s sort of my fault. i was too scared.
nah its not your fault at all. No one would believe sad trannies like us, cops would laugh at us just for bringing it up. I'm sorry that happened to you too. Fwiw we probably live way more fulfilling lives than those people. From what I've heard about my rapist yeah I definitely do at least.

>yeah it sucks how disenfranchised we are. even the trans politicians in the west like sarah mcbride are completely fucking spineless and useless, amoral self-serving ghouls. as for activism, i engage on occassion for causes that matter to me(such as trans issues, palestine) but i am also in an okay place in life where im able to do that. like my living situation is fairly stable as is my source of income. being able to go to protests and the like is a privilege, but one of the better ways to use your privilege if you have it.
For now I don't even have an income yeah lol so my priority is that. I've been chronically sick and depressed and have an extremely abusive family. Oh and recently my dad got to jail for raping tons of women and torturing them so yknow. Wasn't really given the best hand. But it's cool you do some activism! I just, I can't, personally.

>>40322123
i mean i get it right i’ve never been the type to bristle up at “death to america!” america has called for the death of many countries. is it any better they do it in a government hall with the stroke of a pen? the americans never chanted “death or iraq!” or “death to libya!” they just went there and caused the death of those nations. it’s more than understandable that america would receive blowback for that.


i’m glad you’re doing better than your rapist. can’t say the same. mine makes six figures and works a cushy tech job. on the plus side i don’t think about him very often anymore, he was a boring guy anyway.


also yeah 100% understandable you’re focusing on yourself right now. you’re in a horrendous situation. i hope things start looking brighter for you soon, anon.

black boymoders deserve love !!!

>>40322157
Nah Americans "bring freedom" lmao. They keep destroying Arab countries and won't ever stop. But I have to feel sympathy according to yanks for the poor soldiers of colour who went there to kill and rape kids because that was the only way they could get an education.

Oh they probably make more than I do lol, but that's not the point really. It's more that they live lonely inside lives being bad persons, never connecting to anyone deeply.
Good youre not thinking about him often though. Doesn't deserve the slightest mental space.

>also yeah 100% understandable you’re focusing on yourself right now. you’re in a horrendous situation. i hope things start looking brighter for you soon, anon.
thanks anon. I hope so too. I'm doing a lot trying to get my life in order but it ain't easy sadly.