The form requires trans men to sign the following declaration,which states:

>"I am a biological female whose gender identity is male or non-binary who would like to compete in open age matches and competitions that are reserved for men."

>>40328761 (OP)
>haha stupid chud gender and sex are differen't
>nooooooo don't make me acknowledge my sex I'm being oppressed

>>40328773
you can't blame the kids for this, because it goes back to the 80s where agp srs haters wanted to transition too, and terfs were formulating a distinction to keep trans women out and trans men in political discourse
how is anyone supposed to read that much when they're young?

>>40328761 (OP)
Why though?

>>40328761 (OP)
Fake

>>40328761 (OP)
Idk like if you forced a fat person to wear a t-shirt that says "I'M FAT", then the fact that it's true wouldn't erase the reality that you're obviously actively trying to humiliate them

>>40328761 (OP)
You don't refer to humans as males and females lol

>>40329150
>>40329150
You underestimate the capacity for England to abuse trans people

>>40328761 (OP)
abuse ritual

>>40329571
I remember a short story film I watched ages ago. It was about a mixed race man that was trying to hide his half Asian side from white people. It was set back when England was very white and very racist.

And he can't quite pass as white, he's obssesed with cutting his hair to hide it. And he slowly loses his mind. He goes insane because he was bullied his whole life and gets triggered into a mental breakdown.

It ends with him repeating what his bullies told him, screaming into the mirror, "i am a filthy Paki and I don't deserve to live"

This new policy reminds me of that short film

>>40329164
You are a uterus bearing female that has breasts for the purposes of feeding your offspring, that you carried after being impregnated by a sperm carrying male

- NHS 2025

>>40329605
Pic related, the uterus carrying female

>>40328773
>ermm youre a biological female or something but DONT YOU DARE GO INTO WOMYNS BATHROOM FUCK YOU NO YOU CANT GO INTO MENS BECAUSE BIOLOGICAL FEMYLE

>>40328761 (OP)
that's it?
Why they're not banned to compete with men and forced to play with women?

>>40330354
Or maybe bathroom bills are retarded but having females say they're female isn't. I know you have a mental illness that makes admitting your sex feel like literal violence, but normal healthy society doesn't have to accommodate it everywhere.

>>40329157
This is worse because fat is an outwardly visible thing. This is like forcing a man to wear a shirt that says "I HAVE A MICROPENIS"

>>40328773
>If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps this construct called "sex" is as culturally constructed as gender; indeed, perhaps it was always already gender, with the consequence that the distinction between sex and gender turns out to be no distinction at all.
But literacy is woke nowadays so kys instead.

>>40329114
>I can’t read!
>but I’m smart enough to decide to do life altering surgery and drugs!
Lmao, this is why your cult is failing.

>>40328761 (OP)
this is just so some ftm detrans can't sue the fa for being hurt bc indirect female discrimination or whdtever

>>40331822
>yeah uh you have to state your genitalia and breeding status this doesnt break dignity troon
>tracking a womyns pregnancy? RAAPE RAAAAPE LACK OF AUTONOMY LACK OF DIGNITY

>>40328761 (OP)
>>"I am a biological female whose gender identity is male or non-binary who would like to compete in open age matches and competitions that are reserved for men."

Honest to God question, what exactly is wrong here?

>>40331910
I think you're the one that can't read /pol/ack
>the kids = the view youre schizoing over
>anon points out shit like this has been tried since the 80s

>>40331822
>>40331883
>>40331910
are you just here for fun or what
begone

>>40331927
Refer to>>40331866
Basically public humilation
Same reasom why there was so much focus on "trans men being able to go to pregnancy clinics" despite there being like 5 niggas who did that

>>40331923
Making a trans person state their sex hurts their dignity the same way you hurt a depressed person's dignity by making them say things don't always get worse or you hurt a schizophrenic person's dignity by refusing to accept that the ceiling is covered with spiders. Society is only going to accommodate you so far.

>>40331937
I mean, you're just signing something for a sport that's all about physical stats. They even do that in the military. When something requires a lot of physical conditioning, knowing if someone is trans or not is pretty important. Plus everybody's gonna know anyways once you start showing.

>>40331947
>forcing somebody to state their genitalia status is totally not a dignity breach bro i uh... its like schizofrenia or something, yeah its totally that
Aight stand in front of everybody in your workplace and yell out you have a micropenis, its exact length and girth, as well as the size of your testicles. Do it.

>>40331951
nta but now refer to >>40329157

>>40331951
1. FA includes amateur football. Its 100% for humilation.
2. Showing what? I dont think anybody plays football naked.

>>40331957
That's not what they're doing though, and it's not similar to what they're doing, which is why I ignored it.

>>40331962
We already do that though. In the military, if you're fat, your sent to a conditioning platoon. If you get fat throughout your career and are failing physical test, you're marked and your higher ups will constantly bring it up.

>>40331971
>forcing someone to state their genitalia is definitely not like forcing someone to state their genitalia its like uh... trying to cheer a person up or something

>>40331933
are you retarded enough to read my LITERAL JUDITH BUTLER QUOTE as a CHUD thing?
are you the most retarded person ever or what

>>40331973
Congratulations anon for noticing it. Doesnt erase the fact that FA includes amateur football

>>40331802
Trannies are only allowed to play at a disadvantage

>>40331822
>bong society is "healthy"

>>40331978
lel no only retarded enough to mistake it for the other two-green-line-one-black-line post directly below it because i didn't read in my haste
sorry nona

>>40331976
Making someone state their sex is fine, and it doesn't stop being fine because it make you state whether you have a vagina by implication, if that's what you're getting at. This wouldn't bother normal people at all. I have a penis. I don't care who knows. If you want in the normal people league, you have to act normal, sorry.

>>40332004
lmao its fine we're all a bit retarded sometimes
Gender Trouble is a good book! Butler is rad and btfos all bioessentialist idiots! sex IS gender transsexual or transgender is the SAME biological women ARE a cultural invention
love them

>>40332006
>normal people league
I live in Poland
I have lived here for over 25 years
Never have i seen shit in which you had to state your """sex""" in order to participate in amateur sport, what you had on ID was enough
Are you a bong? If yes, that explains it. Utterly subhuman ethnicity.

>>40332024
This is probably so profound if you just learned what a social construct is. Did you know that species are also social constructs? Woah....
>>40332025
So now because it's never been done before, it's wrong or because it's not strictly necessary, it's wrong. Good argument!

>>40332025
>what you had on ID was enough
In chess they don't even verify that, you can be registered player using any name and sex, not sure what happens if somebody would question that

>>40332024
i really ought to read that one of these days. maybe up next :) it'll be the first book i've read on philosophy which is sort of an exciting thought

>>40332050
>because it's not strictly necessary, it's wrong
Yes actually, you psychotic inbred

>>40332050
>it's so basic
>but I also don't understand it
kek

>>40332063
I think it's a relatively easy read because it is more into that Anglo analytical school, I tend to prefer the more lyrical French philosophy usually but that's definitely more arcane

>>40328773
sex and gender are the same, that's why there are transsexuals

>>40328761 (OP)
Well at least the competitions are reserved for men and not males

>>40332054
some afab wombyn will complain about males being "too smart" for chess or something

>>40332066
Insane person moral standard
>>40332081
The entire argument hinges on not understanding that there are social constructs that are more or less socially and physically determined and of greater or lesser utility. The entire tranny anti-sex argument is just trying to claim that because sex is an imperfect classification, it's meaningless, not very useful, and subject to radical change at a cultural level. This is sophistry, like most "theory." You in fact can make the same argument to greater or lesser extents about classifications across not just biology but the physical sciences. It's just "woah man even money is a social construct bro" but presented in the sort of critical theory jargon that pseuds take seriously.

>>40332118
>he entire tranny anti-sex argument is just trying to claim that because sex is an imperfect classification, it's meaningless
No.
>This is sophistry, like most "theory."
You didn't read the book.
>t's just "woah man even money is a social construct bro" but presented in the sort of critical theory jargon that pseuds take seriously.
You probably haven't even read a single book in your life.

>>40328761 (OP)
But it's true?

>>40332132
No, I'm right. The way that woke people argue is that instead of saying "I'm retarded" they say "did you know that Frank Wilderson's synthesis of Fanon and Deleuze actually shows it's cool to be retarded," then when you point out that they're stupid, they pretend like you just don't know what you're talking about. Butler is a high priest in the woke pseudo-intellectual pantheon, you're indoctrinated into a philosophical tradition that values literary beauty over argumentation, and you don't have the skills to evaluate the books you read.

>>40332154
>definitely hasn't read a book
I'm sorry I can't argue with someone who literally has no idea what he's talking about lmao this is ridiculous you truly have no clue
thinking Butler is saying "abolish gender and sex" is incredible like truly I'd expect that from youtube comments under a Jordan Peterson video about cultural marxism
so kys, for your own sake. pitiful pitiful waste of skin.

>>40332154
>you're indoctrinated into a philosophical tradition
Ironic

>>40332185
Nah it's true I went to Svenska Kyrkan (the wokest Church) and a nonbinary priest told me I had to throw away my Bible and instead read postmodern dialectical gender discussions
I can't escape it :(

>>40332171
I'm sure you were able to cut through the obscurantist post-structutalist babble of Butler when you can't even understand comments on 4chan. I don't need you to believe I read because I'm not a pseudo-intellectual desperate to he taken seriously.

>>40328761 (OP)
>The Football Association's updated requirements for transgender men who want to play in male sport requires players to agree they are a "biological female" and "have a greater risk of injury when playing against adult biological males".
i detest this shithole country.

>>40328761 (OP)
They shouldn't sign the form and instead play against biological females, see how that goes

>>40332204
>reading philosophy is obscurantist
ipse dixit faggot

Sex and gender are different
Trans men are biologically female

>>40332366
I'm more surprised they don't just say, "female". "Female" is biology.
So, you can get transmen to sign,
"I'm OK with entering competitions reserved for males."

Assuming they're grouping transwomen and men together, I don't know what the details are.

>>40328761 (OP)
Tbf, "biologically female" is a buzzword, like, it's only something that makes sense from the mouth-breather pov, but scientifically it a complete nonsense. If anything, a trans woman who's on HRT for 7+ years is also biologically female because all her body cells at that point developed during the presence of E which regulates the gene expression, both males and females carry the info for both sexes.
Chromosomally female would be more accurate, but at that point you're risking dealing with a certain grey area, a lot of female athletes who have XCI, so while they don't have the Y, most of their body cells have only X which makes them perform a lot better than cells with XX only, often on par with XY cells which results in far greater performance and endurance. But female sports feds aren't ready for that convo yet.
Ngl, I can't wait for the time where karyotype testing is mandatory for any sports, it'll be the end of female sports as an entertainment medium because strictly XX females athletes are dogwater, all top performers have some genetical fuckery going on, it'll be the age of true athletic mediocrity.

>>40332990
>If anything, a trans woman who's on HRT for 7+ years is also biologically female because all her body cells at that point developed during the presence of E which regulates the gene expression, both males and females carry the info for both sexes.
I transed 8y ago I'm gonna start calling myself a bio female

>>40328761 (OP)

>>40332990
Most people in general don't know wtf is going on, like they let an intersex person compete and all of a sudden everyone's calling her trans and getting mad

>>40333041
>they let an intersex person compete and all of a sudden everyone's calling her trans and getting mad
post literally one example of this

>>40333065
Imane Khelif

>>40333085
literally not intersex
got anything else

>>40333150
Caster semenya

>>40331978
More like Chudith Hitler LMAAAOOOOO GOTTEM

Bump

There are currently 0 professional transgender football players, and 20 amateur football players out of an estimated 2.1 million players in the UK, across all ages.

So 20 out of 2,100,000 is 0.00001% of the football population.

Trans women are banned entirely and trans men must sign a humiliation document outing them to their teammates

>>40332117
Terfs are aligned with the far right conservatives, arguing men are more intelligent than women actually fits in with their long term goals of destroying women's rights and women's autonomy.

How can a woman make a decision on abortion when men are more rational and intelligent? How can a woman vote? How can she be trusted alone in public? These are all arguments terfs are pushing

>>40332218
>i detest this shithole country

We have breadlines, where families queue up so they don't starve, but at least now we can pin a digital triangle on trans people.

England Prevails

>>40332687
>Assuming
You could, you know, just look it up

>>40333198
lol that anon didn't have anything to say about that

>The form also requires acknowledgement that “there are physiological and performance differences between adult biological females and adult biological males”, resulting in “a greater risk of injury”, and requires trans men to have a testosterone level “in the normal adult male range” of 7.7 to 29.4 nanomoles per litre of blood.

Trans men are biologically female whilst also biologically male, don't question it peasant

>>40331822
Britbongs just love kissing america's ass.

>>40331947
The ceiling spiders thing is literally the textbook example in med school/nursing as to why NOT to deny a schizophrenic patient's delusions/hallucinations. How did you fuck it up this bad?

>>40332025
/lgbt/pl discord

>>40332147
Would it be fair if a cis man had to sign a firm stating he had a micropenis before being allowed to play amateur football?

>>40331866
This would be a good policy though? Assuming he actually does anyway. In fact all men should be measured for erect length on a standardized scale and method and given like an enamel pin they have to wear, you could like color-code it for each full inch. It's simply not fair that men can easily visually assess tiddy but women can't do the equivalent even though a big dick matters at least as much.