>don't touch my penis because penises are male
>please give me a prostate orgasm
>please don't jerk me off that's for men
>please fuck me the way gay men get fucked
What did trans women mean by this?

transwomen*

>>40348808
What's the difference?

Kek.

>>40348797 (OP)
i dont have prostate orgasms and i wish i could have sex with a vagina instead of my ass but im working with what ive got. give it a year and a half ill be good and post srs

>>40348797 (OP)
i just focus on my bfs pleasure since im pre op and haven't had luck with anal. cis women do do anal sometimes though, anon.

>>40348797 (OP)
What are you talking about? My bf fucks me in my vagina, not my ass

>>40348882
>>40348892
I'm autistic and not a chud so the prostate thing actually doesn't make sense. Thank you for answering trans women!
>>40348909
Not helpful this is logical.

>>40348797 (OP)
idk i think it's meta-attraction or some bs... like if you're truly bottom dysphoric u should be basically ace until SRS, because everytime you get fucked in the ass, you are reminded that it should've been your vagina instead. anal sex is really not a very womanly thing.
but whatever y'all are only faggots that get mental illnesses because you ocd yourself into believing you were always women, whereas the truth is you just reject masculinity and want to amplify and announce femininity as a basic part of your being to everyone around.

>listening to women
Make her feel good and keep reminding her subtly she's just a woman with a dick. The bottom dysphoria is pure social conditioning and shame, I don't give a shit what's between a womans legs but I'm going to use every part of her from head to toe to melt her brain and leave her a quivering mess.

>>40348797 (OP)
trannies are meta attracted to men and anything that goes against meta attraction makes them rage

>>40348942
its fucked up how every single person on the planet becomes a highly qualified armchair psychologist when it comes to trannies. moron, you noticed what seemed like an inkling of a pattern and used that to justify a position you were close to coming to anyway if not already had. trannies arent a monolith but you arent even a part of that monolith so wtf would you know

HSTS are the only angels capable of really loving a man. AGP will never truly love you beyond your ability to validate her. Change my mind.

>>40349053
> i'm a special-snowflake and ur not a tranny because ur malebrained!
I'm still on HRT THOUGH, just less stuck up about my past because I worked through it.

>>40349112
HSTS want to get fucked in the ass more though. They're the more contradictory ones. AGP transbian tops are the most reasonable tranners.

>>40349112
100% true

>>40349229
I'm a man, no transbian will touch me sadly. But I don't really care if she uses her dick or wants to be fucked in the ass or not as those are not really important to me, I would just be seeking a genuine loving relationship with genuine physical attraction same as I get from cis girls. I don't doubt that AGPs exist who could be also genuinely attracted to me but they must be a small minority. I'd get my heart ripped out by the average AGP.

>>40349112
so when you say that are you just saying "straight trans woman" and "lesbian trans woman"? because originally hsts and agp meant something and it makes your statement a little confusing

>>40349299
yeah they're saying that. the original definitions have been thrown overboard a long time ago sadly. nowadays it's just hsts = good and submissive, agp = bad and has an identity that goes beyond pleasing other people

>>40349299
Hsts was an effeminate gay male who was too effeminate to live as a male, AGP was a regular dude who got turned on by being female and could be straight but are majority lesbian, at least that's my understanding and it's a vague concept that probably doesn't capture all trans girls anyway.

>>40348855
>trans woman
implies trans women are a kind of woman
>transwoman
implies that trans women are not necessarily women and instead they are sort of just trying to emulate women or something. Like how "tomboys" aren't boys they're just. Boyish girls
t. ranny

>>40348967
can you make sex to me please

>>40349407
this is retarded, let's not do this we've got other stuff to worry about
> t.ranny

>>40349359
No, I'm talking about genuine attraction. I've known AGPs even transbians who are the sweetest, most delicate girls but simply aren't interested in men. I wouldn't imply one is better than the other, but for a guy like me who connects deeply with his gfs a girl who is only into me because my masculinity validates her and not because she's physically and romantically attracted to me would be painful and lacking in emotional depth. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the whole thing but that's how I think it would be.

>>40349410
Depends where you are and if you're open to something long term

>>40349434
nah it just sounds like ur a bit of a schiz honestly.
has any tranny ever told u they're only attracted to you because ur masculinity validates her? can you base this in any sort of behavioural difference between the two types?

>don't touch my penis because you are creepy and weird
>please give me a prostate orgasm (directed at someone who is not creepy and weird)
>please don't jerk me off wtf are you doing in my house im calling the police
>please do not fuck me the way gay men get fucked or any other way why do you look so strange were you hit in the face with a brick as a kid
fify

>>40349496
central europe, and HELL yes

>>40349516
curb your autism stacy it's not even a bad thread

>>40348797 (OP)
>don't touch my penis because penises are male
correct
>please fuck me the way gay men get fucked
girls have buttholes too anon, come on now.

>>40349505
>has any tranny ever told u they're only attracted to you because ur masculinity validates her
I’ve literally known transbians who told me they slept with men for a while for validation. This is a very common thing. People don’t come right out and say this to the people they dated or slept with because it’s extremely stupid and rude, you absolute autist

>>40349535
im just sick of the constant trickle of 4chan (therefore strange) moids trying to imply trans women are bad for having dysphoria. or not wanting sex with them.

>>40349542

>>40349573
what am i coping with exactly? not believing anal sex is inherently gay? it’s gay to put your dick in a girl’s ass, is that what you seriously believe? lmao

>>40349407
trve
I like "transwoman" since it implies 3rd gender status and that alone would stop so much counter-trans acceptance if they self-accepted they're not quite either. Male primary, sure, but not really men.
Not really a man, not really a woman.

>>40349565
i'm sorry but u were sounding like the autist here that's why i asked in this manner.
i don't talk to any other trannies let alone transbians irl so idk if these things really happen and am always astounded when they apparently do.

>>40348797 (OP)
I dunno but all sex is immoral outside of marriage

>>40349505
Not to me personally but typing it into the void on 4chan yes. I'm not even slightly schizo just uneducated on the matter and I don't much care beyond learning how I could support her and how it could affect our relationship. I've only ever actually had cis gfs but I've at least seen trans girls I would have happily asked out so I know I find them hot.

>>40349518
I'm 2far4u sorry

>>40349597
>all sex is immoral outside of marriage for the purpose of procreation
fify

>>40349582
> cis woman who has anal sex once or twice in a while mainly to appease her partner because she doesn't even have a prostate in the first place
vs
> tranny who's only way of bottoming pre-srs is having anal sex. literally every time.

>>40349619
> I've at least seen trans girls I would have happily asked out so I know I find them hot
you seem like a nice guy. i'd advise you not to get to obsessed about the whole agp/hsts stuff. this divide is very rough at best and even if it exists, both sides can love you equally as much if they feel enough attraction.

>>40349542
>skipping over the prostate part

>>40349582
It's not gay to touch a girls dick either.

>>40349586
If you are biological determinist then they will always be men no matter what. But the fact that they get perceived as women and lusted after by a lot of straight or otherwise straight men means that gender and attraction just ain't that simple. We get turned on by photos, drawings, statues, written words.

>>40349595
That wasn't me you were replying to I'm >>40349619 and I'm not autistic but I'm neurodivergent to a lesser degree (ADD)

>>40349633
ok and so what is the part Im coping with exactly? not really getting your point. kinda starting to think there isn’t one.

>>40349707
> kinda starting to think there isn’t one.
keep thinking this. you don't see nor understand. ignorance is bliss.

>>40349633
>mainly to appease her partner because she doesn't even have a prostate in the first place
do you think the prostate is the only thing that makes anal enjoyable lmao? plenty of women genuinely enjoy and even prefer anal, anon.

homophobia

>>40348797 (OP)
I'm fine with everything, including getting head but I would never top you