>what is /voicegen/?
/voicegen/ is primarily a general made for trans people on /lgbt/ to share recordings of their voices so as to get feedback, advice, or opinions, to help achieve the voice they want. This does not mean that you must be trans to post! Remember that this is a community-led thread and not a source for professional advice; please be kind to one another!

>how do I post?
It's easy - just record yourself on vocaroo.com, rate others in the thread, and post! That last point is very important - to keep the thread alive and ensure engagement, it is strongly recommended to NOT respond to those who don't do their part, as it is very impolite and leads to threads dying. You need not be an expert; trying your best is all we ask! Even a simple rating can be helpful.

>how do I get started?
There are several ways! You're always welcome to ask for advice here, and there is a wealth of video and written resources available online. However, we tend to believe that there is no alternative to repeated practice and reflection, so exercises that advertise "get a passing voice quick" tend to be confirmation bias from people with a great natural ability to control their voice.
That said, some channels to watch are:
Zoey Alexandria (rip)
TransVoiceLessons

>what do I read?
What we would recommend is to vary what you read aloud - this might be divided into three broad categories:
- flat reading, as if you were reading to an audience, in a neutral, affectless way, usually to focus more on things like pitch or resonance, and less on things like cadence, diction, or intonation
- voice acting, as in you find some piece of media to act: do intonations, try different voices, have fun! Edge Studio is a known resource for texts such as these.
- talking, as in just talking as yourself: improvise, imagine a conversation!

and the old paste, with some more resources:

•Tool for visualizing pitch and resonance
https://acousticgender.space/

▶ Resources MTF:
--- Full MTF Course ---
•L's Guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/

•Google Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gLIOxG9Oq8Ncs1z-c1uvHAgZ43bYGuwdJtLQrQ9EyDg/

•Supplement L's guide with...
False Folds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdsaPJdU24s
•Vocal Fold Thickness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PNnBRBfOVY&t=146s
--- Larynx Stuff ---
•Whisper Siren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Noi2qERus

•General overview/swallow and hold method:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ro2R3esHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWWevU4A5mU

•Big dog/small dog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx4dPWKVt9o

▶ Resources FTM:
---
•http://www.radical-musicology.org.uk/2008/Constansis.htm
•https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24155064
•https://pastebin.com/CCw9czC0

i realized that the whole point of having a name is defeated if it changes every thread so i guess i am just book anon now

https://voca.ro/15ZAEYOEazAz
here is me reading picrel
https://voca.ro/13n7OxBRZTD6
and here screaming last night

(also i edited the op a little. i hope you do not mind FrenchVA; you may change it back next time if you like)

>>40363258 (OP)
i realized that the whole point of having a name is defeated if it changes every thread so i guess i am just book anon now

https://voca.ro/15ZAEYOEazAz
here is me reading picrel
https://voca.ro/13n7OxBRZTD6
and here screaming last night
if anyone knows how to do a false-fold scream please tell me i cannot figure it out help

(also i edited the op a little. i hope you do not mind FrenchVA; you may change it back next time if you like)

Well, I promised myself I'd post next time I saw one of these threads so here we go.

>>40363290
So for your first read, obviously it's good. Occasionally it sounds almost like young teen boy to me, but I wouldn't question it in the wild.
I'm still an amateur so I can't really help with the false-fold scream thing, but the way you can quickly go between that and normal speaking is pretty impressive tbhngl. Though it sounds like you're holding back? Like you don't wanna wake up the house or something.

Anyway, voice got rekt by puberty, no one in my family has a high pitched voice in the first place, yadayada how screwed am I? Been practicing this alone for about a year on and off.
https://voca.ro/186wlz7GJ9Rr

lowest effort early morning voice possible woo
https://voca.ro/1aDyMH51VC7U
high effort early morning voice wooo
https://voca.ro/1b91ycyw5DXh
>>40363290
I like the way your voice sounds this morning better than how it sounds in the clip from last night weirdly? but total voice pass desu!
a metal band tried to teach me to false fold scream in a waffle house a few months ago, but I didn't really get it and I'm kinda scared to try it.
>>40363687
there are lots of things that are really good about this! the pitch itself is literally great, and laryngeal position is getting there. I'm still trying to figure out the pedagogy of this, but the thing that I would tell you is to try and speak more out of the front of your mouth. Try opening your mouth as little as possible and pretend like all the sound is coming from your front teeth instead of your throat.
Some of the naturalness of a passing voice happens a lot faster if you use the correct voice all of the time, instead of practicing by talking to yourself alone.

>>40363687
thanks nona :) i have been working really hard on the screams so it is nice to hear that it is paying off. i was definitely not whispering, though.......i think my voice was just tired. i had been singing and screaming for a while prior to recording
>how screwed am I?
not! a little clocky but i think you think you sound way worse than you really do. your voice sounds maybe a little nasal and breathy, but that's all i hear. you said you felt like you were whispering; maybe try giving your voice a little more support?
>>40364095
i personally like your low-effort voice more and if you feel comfortable speaking that way i think you should! i don't think your high-effort voice sounds annoying, but it definitely sounds less natural. you're a bit muffled by your microphone so i'm not super-duper sure but it sounds like your voice is a little nasal, too, like your tongue is maybe too close to your palate at the back of your mouth.
>I like the way your voice sounds this morning better
is there any reason? i'm definitely speaking a little higher in yesterday's recording because i'm warmed up and with a clear throat, but i'm not sure i was consciously doing anything different
>I didn't really get it and I'm kinda scared to try it
if it's something you'd like to be able to do i think you should work on it! it's definitely not the easiest thing to figure out and you should be careful you don't hurt yourself, but i literally just figured out how to do it properly a few months ago and it is some of the most fun i have ever had doing vocals!
https://voca.ro/158nbVNE4h99
this is how i do it, if it helps at all :)

https://voca.ro/18iziYCZHZ65

Dis me

>>40364095
I get where you're coming from, butI think your low effort voice is better than the high effort one currently. While the low effort voice is deeper, it's still well within female range and sounds quite nice.
The high effort voice sounds a bit forced, especially at the beginning of the clip imo. Almost like your voice was about to crack or go into falsetto? It got better over time but also slightly deeper. If you want to go that direction I think you could pull it off though. Just personally think it's good not to have too high of a base so you still have good pitch range to work with for expression, but you know your limits here better than I do.
The only other thing I'd say is that you seem to be speaking softly in both recordings, but maybe that's just the microphone.

meeeee. my voice feels like pizza now--when it's bad, it's still okay. feedback appreciated
https://voca.ro/14tO8gSSIR4H

>>40363290
very good! andro in a clear fem-leaning way; in my head, I picture an alt girl with curly black hair and piercings, but that's just one example; it could be anyone
the point is your voice maps very well to a "template" in my head for a certain kind of girl. I've known a bunch of a cis girls who had similar voices
I'm getting the vibe you're mtf, but you could also push this masc without too much trouble. sultry, sort of goth girl vibes. I like it a lot
if you're still looking to improve and assuming you're fem-direction, your words have a powerful sharpness and "bite" that works really well as is, but if you rounded these off, you'd sound a bit more feminine. depends on your attitude and the persona you want. nice job!

>>40363687
it sounds like you've done some good work on pitch that's ongoing. do you mind speaking normally and feeling your chest as you do so, right on your solar plexus? do you feel a vibration? if so, where is it emanating from? is it the center of your chest, closer to your neck?
I'm not an expert but vocal fold positioning and the way you hold them, and also how you use breath in the voice, cause a vibration to "center" somewhere in your chest
this is resonance, and it can occur in the chest, throat, and head
chest resonance is strongly associated with male speech, head and to a lesser extent throat resonance with female speech
personally, I notice that when my voice slips, I'm usually dropping the center of my voice so that it takes on a buzziness rather than an airiness, not breathiness but that lightness we associate with female speech. slipping into chest resonance can lower pitch but doesn't necessarily--they're independent characteristics
if you're not sure how to work on resonance or "move" the vibration, reply back and I'll share whatever I can

(out of characters, will continue ratings in another post)

>>40364095
I understand the frustration over being complimented on things that make you sort of dysphoric. I was really muscular pre-transition and about 18 months into hormones, I'm still noticeably big in the chest and arms and sometimes get praised as "very fit." It's nice? I guess? but same feeling, I don't want to be this way. I don't want to be weak but almost no woman has what I have except professional bodybuilders because that's not how women work and that's all I wanna be, you know?
anyway
particularly for low-effort this is good! just sounds like a woman with a deep voice, no other thought would ever cross my mind
honestly? I completely prefer the "low-effort" voice compared to the high-effort. you seem to care about pitch which I understand, so if you really want to, you can make a point of elevating the pitch of your "low effort" voice a tiny bit, but then I think you could happily go on with a lifetime of passing voice by just chilling in that zone from the first recording
I'm not sure if the physical ease of not pressuring yourself to do the high effort voice makes it sound more appealing in the first recording, or if it's something else, but it's basically perfect. now go out there and girl up the world

>>40364907
rate others pleeeeeease :)

>>40365420
you have a beautiful voice nona :) sounds like how a nice slow fire feels at night around this time of year. and passes. if ever there were cause for doubt.
bless you and the effort you put into this thread. i am mtf and i used to sound a lot more feminine but i'm not sure i care a whole lot anymore about how i sound, as long as it's not manly lol. i also look so much lamer than you imagine, but it's neat to know what sort of person my voice might evoke. thank you :)

>>40365856
you're such a darling, thank you. you made my morning. it makes me so happy to know there are kind beautiful souls like you on this board
you definitely sound like a woman, nothing else to it, just a certain kind of woman, self-assured, confident, independent. she'll let you buy her a drink then leave the bar with another dude and punch you if you call her a slut over it. you sound like a girl who tops or feels comfortable taking control while bottoming
ever heard the song CVNT by Sophie Hunter? fucking fantastic song. you give off that vibe. you made my turn on Spotify to listen to it
I promise I'm lamer lol. I'm not a mom and I wear mom sneakers. I volunteer at church. I love baking

>>40366154
you could not have possibly describes a more perfect antithesis to everything i am......but i do ultimately hope to embody that sort of cool confidence. someday. and i have not heard that song but i will listen to it when i get home! thank you for the recommendation
you do not sound lame at all!! i think you sound so sweet and the way you talk compounds that. the sort of person who would lift you up just by being in the vicinity :) i hope to be that sort of person, too.

hrm my name disappeared because i am phoneposting............

i put my name in the options field...........0 for 1 on embodying coolness.......

>>40363258 (OP)
Yo voicegen amazing!!
Too busy rn to record myself/listen others (nerding out with my partner playing hotseat AoW4) but so happy it's up and running and good changes on the OP!

its hard to tell if im making progress i feel like i have more control over my vocal muscels but i kinda sound like kermit the frog

>>40367543
maybe we'll keep it alive until you're able to post :) i'm glad you like the changes! i had to truncate it a bit because i ran out of space but most of what i cut was the little note at the bottom telling anons they could read the provided text if they wanted to. you can still feel free to change it back or whatever if you want to ;p
>>40368279
if you feel comfortable sharing a recording someone might be able to help! for me to do a Kermit voice i have to constrict the lower part of my throat; are you maybe doing that subconsciously? ultimately your throat should be pretty relaxed, but it may take some time to learn.

ooh just noticed thread. here's a paragraph from the chapter of moby dick i'm reading now that i just recorded for /chasergen/!
https://vocaroo.com/1fWRArfTLI4E
>>40363290
i wish i could sound this good at this pitch. pass
>>40363687
trannyvoice but passes. normies wouldn't clock
>>40364095
loweffort one passes great!!!
>>40365420
mogs

>>40369358
>the chapter of moby dick i'm reading now
yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have you read it before or is it your first time? do you love it i hope you love it Moby-Dick is my favorite ever
your voice is a bit breathy, and possibly also a little nasal, but i can't quite tell. and you probably can pass at that pitch! i feel a bit like a broken record and i'm sorry if i have told you this before because i have absolutely no vocal discernment but in general i find that it is much easier to find a comfortable and nice-sounding voice at a pitch that is natural to you than at one that is not (e.g. too high). voice-training is wildly multifaceted but in general it tends to be resonance that does the majority of the heavy lifting in determining how people will perceive your voice (as far as gender is concerned, anyways)

https://voca.ro/1mhWqDJZuNYw

So my voice is very nasally because I have these things called nasal polyps (working on getting them out), but I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong as on the phone I get called sir, a lot.

>>40369744
Should mention I know how to raise the larynx and raise my pitch but that's basically it.

>>40369744
https://voca.ro/1a8xZVGbl4UA

>>40369832
I know I sound nasally. I explained why I sound nasally. Not sure how to speak with my head voice.

>>40369859
one way i learned is put your hand on your chest/heart and speak. your chest should not rumble at all or VERY LITTLE) and all the sound comes from your face.

How cooked am I?
https://vocaroo.com/186zN5KKXmGM

>>40369886
Had my hand on my chest when recording this.

https://voca.ro/1ayryHtY7Ac7

>>40369358
passes
>>40369832
passable
>>40369744
clocky, too raspy
>>40369914
mogs me

https://vocaroo.com/1l1mEMgmYS43

https://voca.ro/14cPvsUf7W89

>>40369358
passes but clarity issues(not referring to the accent)

>>40369744
nasality is the main problem, very hard to even evaluate it past that as it's so prominent

>>40369914
it's fine desu

>>40369917
not passing

>>40370237
see above

by the way all of you should stop reading off something. speak freely it is much better for evaluation

>>40369683
first time!!! i've read his short stories before which i adore. i'm loving it so far. i don't post outside my general much anymore so you likely haven't told me anything before. this pitch is comfy for me actually, it's my default & i usually don't drop below it. i spoke at a similar pitch pre-training, men in my family don't have deep voices
>>40370633
ya sorry i am a mumbler. what accent do you hear out of curiosity?
i will rate new after bf goes to sleep!

>>40370633
It's cause of the nasal polyps. I broke my nose when I was 8, and its caused them to form. Something I have to take care of every few years. It sucks.

>>40369917
Idk, you kind of sound like i did when i first started. Maybe you're trying too hard with raising the larynx? Try to loosen up a bit so it sounds more natural. I know it's easier said than done, but keep practicing and listening back.
Did you feel your chest vibrate? I swear its impossible to not at all, but it should be less than when usually speaking. I think I did hear a bit of that basey sound though.
Also very nasally but you mentioned that already so I'll leave it at that.

>>40363687 this was me btw, at work rn

>>40370670
i thought i heard a more defined accent but i actually just think you're normal (NA english) sounding with mild moby dick dramatic flair

>>40370675
ok and that doesn't mean your voice isn't untenably nasal sorry. sounds like it sucks but if you know the main problem with your voice and ask anyways that's what answer you will recieve. i was being serious when i said it was so nasal it's hard to even evaluate the other qualities

>>40370777
ahh i see thank you... i think that's mainly cause i'm reading cause in normal speech i have a pretty marked upper midwest accent. people usually can't place it though which is why i asked

https://voca.ro/11xEya8SULOX

>>40364095
>there are lots of things that are really good about this!
Well, good to know it's not completely terrible haha
>pretend like all the sound is coming from your front teeth instead of your throat.
I'll try to imagine that next time

>>40365420
>do you mind speaking normally and feeling your chest as you do so, right on your solar plexus?
Pretty much no matter how I speak I feel vibration in my chest, mostly upper chest though. Only time I don't get chest vibration is if I speak very quietly/whisper but I don't think that counts.

>>40369917
Also, the thing that got me to improve massively from where I was stuck at was doing big dog little dog exercise, into whispering little dog practice (doable even if people are nearby), then transitioning from that whisper to speaking (like, "hhhhhHello! How's it going?")

good morning voicegen it makes me so happy to see we have been active :)

>>40370237
you sound a little nasal; you may have some tension to release in your throat. do you feel constricted? try to keep your larynx where it is and relax a little.
>>40370633
my day yesterday was a little exhausting but it's all okay: Weird Al show tonight
you sound fine! very monotone but maybe you don't mind that. the only thing i can hear that could be a problem (not seriously) is nasality but i'm not sure if your voice actually is nasal or if that is the microphone
>>40370670
oh wonderful!! my favorite of his short stories is Bartleby but i'm sure that's everyone's lol. i'm so glad you're enjoying it.
>this pitch is comfy for me actually
ah! well i think that is a good place to be, then. there is nothing wrong with your current pitch, for the record. i just assumed your voice was lower like mine. if you want to speak at a lower pitch it's definitely not out of the question, but like i said, i think comfort is ideal.

the following people need to rate others grrrrrr
but i will review anyways bc i feel guilty
>>40364907
a bit nasal but really you sound pretty good! i can't imagine anyone clocking unless they're also trans
>>40369744
>very nasally
for definitely lol. i can hear the tone of your voice is a little deep, anyways, though. both the hand-on-chest thing and big dog, small dog that you were recommended are good for working on this, so i am not sure i have much to say myself. your second recording still seems to have this quality, but i can't say what you felt when you placed your hand on your chest. it is possible that this is also a result of the polyps.
>>40369914
not lol. you sound perfectly fine nona.
>>40370909
i didn't realize you were rating in your recording and i was so confused by the numbers i thought that was a manifestation of ocd or something at first omg
you yourself sound mostly pretty good, but possibly a bit nasal...somehow i can't tell. maybe try relaxing your throat a bit if it is not already

https://voca.ro/1mGngmlt1ESy
me reading the OP text. I've been struggling a bit more recently i think, feel so tired lol so its lower than usual esp. since i already read Judith for 20m before

>>40363290
amazing scream lmao. Yeah it's more androgynous than your normal speech but it's still good!
oh and your voice has more intonations for reading and is more interesting to follow I think
>>40363687
you sound typically trans so it's not horrible as in you don't sound male male yknow but yeah you're clocky work on resonance pitch vocal size yknow you're just beginning gl!
>>40364095
I like your low effort voice, but keeping up the work on the higher effort one might get you halfway between both so it sounds better idk that's what I tell myself
>>40365420
cool voice! I feel it has some trans sound as in it's deeper but not in a clocky way? idk
also weed is bad, I quit and I'm doing so much more shit, plus yeah voice
>>40369358
good base but isn't natural rn, just needs to get used to it!
>>40370237
very nasal but for good reasons from what I understand so idk what to say
>>40370633
monotone but thats cool imho i like monotone voices you sound chill

this is me talking for the first time today. i wasn't being lazy, so i want to know how it sounds. the second clip is me trying to talk naturally instead of reading out loud

https://voca.ro/1aCjjLzyHLI6
https://vocaroo.com/18T7tLmdMtSp

>>40370909
you sound feminine but also very, like, strained? it doesn't sound like fluid speech

>>40370237
you're talking really way too nasal

>>40370633
sounds really nice!!

>>40374728
i meant to say: i WAS being lazy. not thinking too hard

i got VFS
https://vocaroo.com/1kqyCN4NrtKP

>>40374898
Idk about what others said but from what I understand it's more that VFS is "pay to fast" like it won't unlock stuff you couldn't do otherwise but it helps getting you to a more fem place without working on resonance as much.

Have to do this stupid formatting because of the spam filter.

>>40363290
Your voice is nice. It's a bit andro but fem-leaning, basically lesbian voice. It has a nice scratchy sound to it. Can't really say much about the screaming, though it's pretty andro.

>>40363687
You sound trans so it's clocky but I'd never think this voice belongs to a man so it's not bad. It seems other people gave you good advice on what to do and I'm no expert but I think you're definitely not screwed.

>>40364095
Neither voice is bad really but the more high-effort one does sound a bit forced to me (which makes sense.) I don't think any cis person would clock the low-effort one either. Somewhere inbetween the two might work best.

>>40365420
You have a really nice pleasant voice, you sound very soft. I don't think I'd ever clock this if I didn't know beforehand you were trans.

>>40369358
Sounds feminine but you eat your words too much when reading.

>40370237
Like other said it's too nasal. Though pretty andro.

>40370633
Sounds nice and fairly natural.

>40374463
While you sound a bit too breathy it still passes to me (and it may just be you being tired.)

>40374728
Sounds very androgynous to me but also very pleasant to listen to.

I decided to participate just because it's Moby-Dick (ftm): https://voca.ro/12F4VPkNCH3x

>>40375143
>While you sound a bit too breathy it still passes to me (and it may just be you being tired.)
It's funny I'm usually not breathy enough and am practicing being moreso! But yeah tired af zzzz
I'll listen to you later anon can't rn thx for rating!!

https://voca.ro/1yAi6K13qaCF

>>40374898
you should do a little training still. Less pitch, and more the other stuff. you sound like a surfer dyke or a really waifish dude, imo. If I saw you irl though and you looked like a girl I wouldn't bat an eye at your voice. (I'm w/ you though abt VFS. I didn't get it, but I wish I had been able).

>>40374898
You Sound like keffals

>>40375300
https://vocaroo.com/1b7JBGtvdp8e
same person, hopefully a better recording. voice a little different but I didn't mean it to be. my voice isn't all that consistent.

>>40375300
>you should do a little training still
i know, but i'm stoked that that's how i sound with no effort. unforch, while i sound pretty okay just speaking, the procedure is still fresh enough that i can't do much other than that. things in there are still weird and stiff, so raising my larynx and speaking is kinda challenging rn (i'm also incapable of speaking loudly or singing)
>less pitch
funnily, that's just where my voice rests at lol. i'd have to consciously lower my voice

>>40375453
her voice is far from the worst thing about her, i'll take it.

>>40376025
oh! I meant ta\hat you don't have to worry about pitch. your pitch is good.

Bump you whales

>>40375143
Totes pass but you speak extremely slowly lol

>>40363258 (OP)
bump

>>40369832
Your intonation is kind of strange to me. Idk if it's just an accent or if it's because you have to concentrate on maintaining your voice. Monotone and breathy sounding, but it's not bad.

>>40370633
Sounds good to me. Kind of monotone like but defo passes, I like this kind of voice.

>>40370909
You have an accent, but I don't think that has anything to do with your voice here. Perhaps a little bit nasally? Sounds fine overall, but the microphone quality sounds like you're on speaker phone or a webcam so hard to tell for sure.

>>40374463
The way you speak is like a cross between Widowmaker and the SpongeBob narrator lol. Guess that makes sense though. It does seem pretty breathy, put I'd say it's a pass.

>>40374728
Very androgynous to me, particularly the second recording. Still fem leaning though.

>>40374898
Sounds like you're still recovering a bit, but it's pretty good for literally no effort. VFS seems to be getting pretty good these past few years.

>>40375300
>>40375491
Wow, those two recordings really are different. I like the second one better, but both read fem to me.

Ahh, I really should practice more with people I know... maybe then I wouldn't sound so fake.
Rambling: https://voca.ro/1i5vAiR8Gwvr
Reading: https://voca.ro/18XfEx04cycV

>>40381241
A bit clocky but not far from passing. I don't think you sound too breathy but I think you have the kind of nasal quality a lot of trans women have in their voices. Resonance is probably what needs most improvement, as far as being soft goes it sounds soft now already.

>>40381232
>The way you speak is like a cross between Widowmaker and the SpongeBob narrator lol. Guess that makes sense though. It does seem pretty breathy, put I'd say it's a pass.
Damn that's a wild ass comment lmao is it because of the rolling "r"s?

>>40382883
i think they're just thinking about how both of them have stereotypical french accents :/

>>40374463
pass!! but very breathy. that's all, though :)
>>40374728
i agree with the other anon: you are incredibly androgynous, but something about it tells me you are a woman. i like your voice a lot !
>>40374898
very low voice but you pass. you sound really strained, though; how recent was the surgery?
>>40375143
>just because it's Moby-Dick
such good taste on this board
you pass, but i'm sure you know that ;p
>>40375300
your first recording sounds more natural, and it sounds clearly like a woman is speaking, but somehow part of it seems off, and i'm not sure what :( sorry
the second recording sounds good as well, but it is a bit breathy. i don't get the same weird feeling, though.
>>40381241
anon below you said everything i would have had to say already. it's just a bit nasal. it doesn't need to be any higher, especially if you feel comfortable.

>>40383102
I really chose my name for this thread well it seems lmao
>>40383459
That was me at my breathiest it seems lol, balance is HARD especially tired.

Still don't have much time to rate others cuz holidays but I'll get around to people I've missed :)

>>40382883
It's just because of the overall cadence and accent. It's a kind of sleepy/relaxed delivery of the narrator mixed with the enunciation of Widow. Nothing bad, it just reminded me of those two characters :V

>>40383102
Is that the stereotypical accent? Only other French person I know irl doesn't really talk the same way despite his accent. Can't really think of any other French characters that speak that way either...

>>40383606
Could be, idk. I'm not vexed dw lol
Might be that I'm not French French but Southern French and have a different accent? + the fact that I have a strong accent but I also enunciate all letters (I don't treat h in English as silent as all French people do usually etc) maybe that gives it a different quality?

>>40383976
>maybe that gives it a different quality?
Couldn't say, I'm not well versed in the dialects of France. Didn't even make the connection that the SpongeBob narrator was supposed to be French until that post today haha ^^'

hey you guys wanna hear something really embarrassing
https://voca.ro/1iGmQBYuAW8e
i did karaoke yesterday lol
i could not hear myself at all over the music so this is completely raw (and terrible); please tell me what i sound like

i would have posted the whole song but it is really really bad024gy

I was early, here's me for anyone who came after that wants to rate me
https://voca.ro/14tO8gSSIR4H

>>40369358
great! passes easily I think. just because I'm listening for things to give feedback on I noticed:
1) you've done a really good job of softening word endings, which feminizes your voice; it might now sound a little mumbled or slurred between words. to me imagining your voice with a soft crisp enunciation is just *chef's kiss*
2) there are moments where your pitch drops very low; they still sound feminine and didn't read male, but that would be a minor area to address if you want to use some pitch detecting programs to track pitch drops

>>40364907
when my brain tries to "sort" your voice I instinctively think girl. some of your pitch variations seem a little forced? I may be wrong but almost like you're turning them "on," which I would understand since you're voice training
smoothing and making pitch variation natural would be a great step I think

>>40369914
this is good! your voice has a feature that often creeps into mine, a sort of buzzing that I think is leftover from our instinct as guys to speak from the chest (assuming you're mtf)
it sort of sounds like vocal fry, which is a buzziness that comes from in the throat, but the buzzing we both have is partly from muscle memory and partly from what pitch we use
raising pitch very slightly could help, I'm talking 5-10hz, because it will make it easier to avoid the chest buzziness
the goal wouldn't be to go for a higher voice but to exploit how different areas of your vocal folds interact with your body

continued from >>40386042
me if you want to rate
https://voca.ro/14tO8gSSIR4H

>>40370237
this in some ways reminds me of a cis female high school classmate who had a nasal voice
I think this sounds more like a voice changer, maybe because you've "bunched up" your voice into the front of your face to raise the pitch?
maybe try dropping pitch slightly and letting your voice live in your throat, and work on passing air through the nose as you exhale to speak, instead of "holding" it there, which it sounds like you may be doing
an easy exercise to help with this: try exhaling an equal amount of air through both your nose and mouth simultaneously

>>40370909
>>40370633

this one's tough. I feel like you have a great "template" voice, in that the pitch could be easily raised and certain features tweaked to achieve highly feminine qualities (assuming you want that)
and sometimes hearing it, my brain flits to "girl"
I associate the intonation you use slightly more with guys. as I did some practice runs with myself, I realized I think it's the rapid, someway clipped way you speak
your voice is also pretty monotone, which may work but I think it's worth considering from a social perspective whether that type type of feminine voice matches the feminine spirit you carry around
go back to around the :20 mark of your recording and you use the word "whatever"
the way you pronounce it is sort of staccato, three quick lines like |||
my instinct was to pronounce it with more "drag," really just lingering on some sounds, which I think is a feature we associate with feminine speech, whereas that clipped and quick speech is more masculine
maybe try reducing pace a bit and using the extra brainspace you have to vary pitch according to what you're saying

continued from >>40386185
me if you want to rate
https://voca.ro/14tO8gSSIR4H

>>40374463
good! I haven't heard many native French women speak so this is hard for me. my instinct is to think your voice hovers right on the edge of just being a "certain kind of woman's" voice
I feel like there's a background "depth" to it, not that your pitch is low but almost like there's something in the back of your throat; I think I've heard that's a part of French speech, and so it may work for you, but if that helps describe anything you've wondered about your voice, it might be useful
overall nice job, clearly you're doing good work. if I heard this on YouTube or on a train or whatever I'd just think I was hearing a French woman

>>40374728
this reads male to me, although it's got a momentum in a fem direction that makes me think you're playing with it?
is there still a lot of voice in your chest if you feel your sternum when you speak?

me if you want to rate
https://voca.ro/14tO8gSSIR4H

>>40374898
this is rad. you sound sort of like a butch lesbian now. if you put in even a bit of effort now you'll sound wonderful. don't think I could ever read this as a guy's voice if I tried

>>40375143
flawless pass. nice voice

>>40375300
I would very much like to know where your script text is from. sounds like a fever dream
mtf right? this sounds a little andro right now, on the masc side; reminds me of some of the trans girls I know
I think the qualities are really nice so far; have you tried varying your pitch?
also, I think you're still speaking in your chest a little more than will serve you
sometimes I like to think of it this way: guy voice is a hook pulling the voice up from the throat. girl voice is a wave pushing the voice up from the stomach
there's a muscle underneath your stomach called the diaphragm, which lets you inflate your lungs
I noticed that when my voice sounds best, it's when I'm gently engaging my diaphragm as I speak, forcing air over my vocal system like I'm an instrument
female speech is a form of singing, IMO

>>40381241
did a voice response for this one because I demonstrate something, long sorry https://vocaroo.com/1jUeHKAJ0b32

>>40385184
this is everything. thank you, I'm so happy now

>>40386408
>this is everything. thank you, I'm so happy now
thank you and you're welcome!! i'm glad at least some part of it could be enjoyable ;pppppp

Doing it quickly cuz it's 2AM and I'm dying
>>40375300
I'd say pass in that area where it's more likely you're trana than other fem voices but still likeliest to be cis if that makes sense
>>40381241
Still needs practice it's getting good but still trans sounding!
>>40385184
I'd say it's androgynous male leaning? But then again it's screamo at first so like that's always reading male to me even when cissies do it lol
>>40386042
Pass, cool chill voice

https://voca.ro/1kEg9pYNkZuB
Quickest recording ever no voice training today cuz we played AoW4 with my partner all day lmao

>>40386408
your voice is gorgeous, are you single…

>>40386408
>I would very much like to know where your script text is from.
it's a poem called "Girl Soup" by Sawako Nakayasu.
>mtf right? this sounds a little andro right now, on the masc side; reminds me of some of the trans girls I know
NB! But yeah, born a dude. thank you for the input, desu all that sounds like I'm pretty close to where I want to be. I think in my second recording my pitch varies a little more? Im kinda bad at reading things. Tbh my general sense of my voice is that at times I'll accidentally dip into an unambiguously male range when I'm just varying my pitch for emphasis, so I sound kind of insane sometimes.

>>40386235
>it's got a momentum in a fem direction that makes me think you're playing with it?

could you explain what you mean? i'm not sure

>>40389618
Oh duh I'm this person. Relistening to my second recording I'm just abt whispering. Maybe Ill record another one? LOL when my roommates not home I'm more embarrassed to be recording soundbytes for judgment on 4chan than I am of voice training lol

>>40389336
I thought you sounded funny at first but then I realized you just have a non-American accent. in the second half it's very much an easy pass, first half is more ambiguous. Butif your voice is unambiguously feminine half the time and andro the other half of the time that means it comes off as female.

need random strangers' feedback because i don't know who or what to believe rn
https://voca.ro/1m5QVQEzN0lw
thank you in advance

>>40390037
give other people feedback nona

>>40375453
That's a good thing though, since keffals got on puberty blockers at 13 so her voice never dropped

>>40389742
ahah yeah I always get that. About the androgynous part well it's probably cuz I was falling asleep and laid down and I sat down halfway through to pet my cat lol

>>40386235
>good! I haven't heard many native French women speak so this is hard for me. my instinct is to think your voice hovers right on the edge of just being a "certain kind of woman's" voice
>I feel like there's a background "depth" to it, not that your pitch is low but almost like there's something in the back of your throat; I think I've heard that's a part of French speech, and so it may work for you, but if that helps describe anything you've wondered about your voice, it might be useful
>overall nice job, clearly you're doing good work. if I heard this on YouTube or on a train or whatever I'd just think I was hearing a French woman

Thanks! Yeah i'm still working on it I'm happier some days less so some others but it's moving in the right direction I think. Idk about the back of my throat part there is some guttural sounds I make due to French being well French? that could be it
I think French women tend to have lower voices and flatter voices (my family sure does) because France as a whole is a less gendered country with less gendered expectations? When I moved abroad to Scandinavia I noticed how different the voices were immediately, made me feel inadequate in a way with super high pitches and weak voices

Bump!

>>40363258 (OP)
I already posted and reviewed but we have to keep the thread going!
here's one of my all-time favorite voice training songs! Rose Betts is super fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axg0_1Q4knU&ab_channel=RoseBetts
and here's my voice if anyone wants to comment
https://voca.ro/14tO8gSSIR4H

https://voca.ro/18e9LJZUfqZl
this almost certainly sounds completely male but i am just posting bc i love to sing
feedback is welcome anyhow :)

>>40389336
still a little breathy but that's all ;p
>>40390037
please do give feedback to others!! but i will respond anyways because i think everyone should have at least something...you sound almost as though you are either in or about to enter falsetto range; try to ground your voice a little more, if that makes sense. you should feel vibration in your throat (and chest, possibly; my chest vibrates but i have a deep voice) and if you can't (or you can only barely feel it) you are using too much breath.

...up?
thinking perhaps that this thread's time has come

>>40395610
Haven't you posted that recording already? Also where do you live that your water sucks?
>>40396015
I think that's way better than your last singing!

>>40397370
Naaaah but yeah people don't post every day I assume?

>>40397609
certainly, lol. i can't think of a time i have ever performed worse vocally than that karaoke but it was fun anyways!!
>>40397632
it seems to me anons usually post only once per thread..i myself haven't ever posted a recording that wasn't giving someone else feedback more than twice in a thread, probably (and even that is rare), until this one. i am thinking we may just need a fresh thread tomorrow or whenever this one does bite it :p

>>40398234
Yeah I agree with you it's getting awkward sending 3 recordings in a thread a bit lol
I'm gonna zzz cyall!