why are white trannies like this? - /lgbt/ (#40367681) [Archived: 318 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:04:13 AM No.40367681
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>ethnic cleansing is bad and all, but like twitter lefties are super duper annoying can you all just stop?
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GAY THUG
7/13/2025, 12:05:32 AM No.40367694
>tranny, pro-israel, anti-white
Allah please if you can hear me. Allah. One portablr gas chamber and a few minutes alone with the crossdresser
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:20:01 AM No.40367804
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>>40367681 (OP)
The takeaway I got from Contra's argument wasn't that twitter lefties are "annoying".

Contra thinks their advocacy is fucking retarded because they mixed "stop the active genocide" with "dismantle Israel" and that they are normalizing antisemitism by mixing the word zionist and jew.

Agree or disagree, I think you are being a little silly yourself to present such a strawman argument in this important intellectual debate.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:25:39 AM No.40367850
>>40367804
>mixing the word zionist and jew
Are you talking about Israel and their apparent failed mission to protect Jews worldwide? I have never seen this from the left. I hear Zionists like Hontra/Ethan Klein try to claim that basically all Jews are Zionists or love what's happening in Gaza right now, which just flatly isn't true at all.
>stop the active genocide
>dismantle Israel
Israel as an apartheid state, yes, absolutely.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:31:37 AM No.40367898
>>40367681 (OP)
did she get to meet the clintons
probably on the aipac payroll
I canโ€™t understand why anyone would be pro Israel without some kind of ulterior motive
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:32:40 AM No.40367907
>>40367681 (OP)
I don't think white trannies are like that as a group, at all. You're just talking about one person.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:33:12 AM No.40367915
>>40367804
>mixing the word zionist and jew
Zionist have been doing this for decades so they can call criticism antisemitic
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:45:38 AM No.40368012
>>40367850
>Are you talking about Israel and their apparent failed mission to protect Jews worldwide?
No I am providing a better summary of Contra's points to hopefully spark a discussion between people who care about this subject.

Personally, I can't stand the discussion because it's stupid and gay. Glass the whole fuckin landmass from the river to the sea and be done with it.

No one has an ancestral claim to land. Genocide is bad. Israel shouldn't expand. Palestine shouldn't kill Israeli civilians.

The whole debate is:
>which group of subhumans do we support slaughting the other group of subhumans over a worthless piece of dirt that holds no intrinsic value whatsoever

Totally boring to me, but hey maybe something entertaining can arise from it.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:50:01 AM No.40368048
who is making these fucking threads?


sage
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:01:16 AM No.40368162
>>40367804
>dismantle Israel
Ethno-nationalist states are bad actually.
>mixing the word zionist and jew
You can thank Israel, and especially Likud for that.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:04:33 AM No.40368196
>>40367804
if contra has a problem with zionist and jew being mixed together, take it up with the state of israel shielding itself behind judiasm every minute
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:12:11 AM No.40368251
>>40368048
me im just trolling and shit
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:14:20 AM No.40368275
>>40367694
I would kill you in under 30 seconds
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:31:48 AM No.40368406
>>40367681 (OP)
I donโ€™t see anything contradictory here though?
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:33:19 AM No.40368415
>>40368196
>maybe the Japanese shouldnโ€™t have been so Japanese if they didnโ€™t want their emigres put in US prison camps
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MWAHnon !!1RVnHvInU8k
7/13/2025, 1:46:51 AM No.40368551
>>40367681 (OP)
It's not just trans women it's just middle class white people (I know she's rich but to me middle class and upper class are the same unattainable class of people above me), they are too sheltered and blinded by their privilege.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 1:55:35 AM No.40368631
I don't care about the middle east.
Is the new Elden Ring dlc worth buying ?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:28:37 AM No.40369905
>>40367804
contra's points were 100% correct but she fumbled the messaging on the democrats part

she should've made it clear that the problem was pro-palestine activists not understanding why voting for and endorsing kamala was crucial despite their issues with her
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:31:21 AM No.40369918
>>40368012
>No one has an ancestral claim to land. Genocide is bad. Israel shouldn't expand. Palestine shouldn't kill Israeli civilians.

>The whole debate is:
>which group of subhumans do we support slaughtering the other group of subhumans over a worthless piece of dirt that holds no intrinsic value whatsoever

this is correct except the subhuman part. why are you calling them both subhumans when in the prior paragraph you imply the opposite. even ironically it doesn't cohere
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:34:35 AM No.40369930
>>40369905
>Biden is beyond absurdly unpopular
>don't distance yourself from him at all
>don't even pretend to care about Palestinians
>lose
We just learned how incompetent Democratic leadership is. Try to, y'know, appeal to anyone.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:35:41 AM No.40369933
>>40368162
>Ethno-nationalist states are bad actually.
they are

BUT

i don't trust leftists to actually be consistent on this in the slightest. especially given all the de facto ethnostates around the world

only pro-palestine liberals, not leftists, hold a consistent and principled position here. anti-palestine liberals sometimes do too but they'd need to defend white european ethnostates and most aren't gonna bite the bullet on that
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:41:01 AM No.40369961
>>40369933
What ethnostates are we giving weapons/nukes to aside Israel?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:43:17 AM No.40369973
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>>40369930
i am not saying biden and kamala handled things well, including palestine. i am saying it is the moral duty of the left of center to support the plausible candidate running against trump. especially because in every single scenario trump was obviously going to be even more supportive of israel, the IDF, and bibi than either biden or harris

they only earn the moral right to shittalk them if they voted for them against trump

a leftist will look at this headline and say "actions matter, not private words". a liberal will look at it and say "well he should've done more but this is obviously a million times more reassuring than trump fucking worshiping netanyahu and also destroying the rule of law on the side you retarded inane children holy fucking shit"

contra is righteously expressing the latter sentiment here which we liberals collectively feel. she just should've been more explicit about electoralism to explain why she's not just civility-policing when she criticizes the left's behavior here
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:50:10 AM No.40370025
>>40369961
i am not defending israel or the US giving them military aid. if this discussion were about israel circa 2020 i'd say that if israel wasn't oppressing gaza and seizing parts of the west bank the ethnostate, while problematic and while it objectively should instead be a pluralistic democracy with no enforced ethnic majority, in practice isn't going to change anytime soon due to various legitimate grievances and fears from both the recent and distant past plus illegitimate bigotry and rightist ideology

in that sense both hasan and ethan klein are right. ethan is more right, since he says he supports hasan's proposed one-state pluralistic democracy in principle but just pragmatically knows such a thing won't be possible in israeli society this century
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:56:04 AM No.40370069
>>40368415
israel can choose to appoint itself the head of a religion
japanese people cannot choose to be less asian

you are a fat retard
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:12:20 AM No.40370193
>>40367681 (OP)
Contrapoints is the one trans leftist who makes videos that aren't so annoying anyone can watch them to understand the other sides prospective.
My rightist ass can sit through one and understand what is being said. Attacking your one person is why left leaning media can never reach the other side.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:15:34 AM No.40370217
>>40367681 (OP)
Twitter lefties are annoying, ineffective and causing more problems for more people than they're helping actually, and she's right.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:16:48 AM No.40370224
>>40370193
she recently formally came out as a liberal

liberals generally consider themselves center-left or left
leftists consider liberals center-right, right, or "the moderate wing of fascism"
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:21:13 AM No.40370262
>>40370217
This. I don't understand how any tranny can take leftists seriously after they refused to side with Kamala because she was "just as bad" (LOL) and now Trump will destroy trans rights for decades to come. Leftists had a hand in that whether they like it or not.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:24:41 AM No.40370287
>>40370224
Yeah... It's that reason why no one can on the left proper can talk to people in the middle.
An obviously left leaning trans person is "moderate fascist"
Let her cook damn it, some times I want to know what the left is thinking.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:25:07 AM No.40370291
>>40370262
exactly

the fact that some are even to this day still coping and saying kamala would be the same, or even just the same on gaza, are peak deluded
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:25:18 AM No.40370293
>>40369973
Well you lost because you stood for nothing. Try harder next time.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:26:16 AM No.40370304
>>40370262
>>40370291
anti-electoralism is a psyop
t. leftist
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:26:17 AM No.40370305
>>40370293
i can and will judge both the campaign and the leftists
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:28:34 AM No.40370322
>>40370262
"Trans rights"
Let go of the things you are losing on.
Rights are rights, when you start adding on things it becomes special treatment.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:28:41 AM No.40370324
>>40369918
>why are you calling them both subhumans when in the prior paragraph you imply the opposite
Perhaps "subcivilized" would have been more accurate kek

ngl given this is 4chan I didn't expect the word "subhuman" to be contentious.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:29:28 AM No.40370329
>>40370262
Kamala was still on Israel's side though so I will throw trannies, immigrants and brown people under the bus by not voting for her! :D
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:30:08 AM No.40370336
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>>40369973
oof
>>40370305
I voted for Harris despite her ineptitude, so did many lefties. Try to appeal to people.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:30:38 AM No.40370343
>>40369973
>we could have gotten more people to vote if we just had more celebrities backing us!

GRIM OUTLOOK FOR THE DEM STRATEGISTS
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:32:00 AM No.40370352
>>40370324
i figured but in this context so many people think one or both sides genuinely are subhuman and need to all be exterminated so it's a bit ambiguous

plus it's modern 4chan. someone saying nigger on 4chan in 2008 was more likely than not centrist or lefter. someone saying nigger on 4chan in 2025 more likely than not sincerely hates all black people and probably wants them removed or killed
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:32:34 AM No.40370355
>>40370329
The immigrants and brown folks hate you
do
Donโ€™t ask me why I know
>>40367681 (OP)
Leftists will eat each other one day lmao
Good
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:34:20 AM No.40370366
>>40370336
i have no issue with leftists who voted for her

>>40370343
they sucked and had a bad candidate but this wasn't the "hmmm do i find kamala harris appealing...." election it was do i want another 4 years of turbocharged donald trump
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:42:04 AM No.40370416
>>40370262
I never understand why I/P was the hill to die on for leftists, especially ones living in America when Trump is on the ballot. If Kamala won then things would have likely remained the same and I/P would have been slightly better off. At the least Kamala wouldn't be building a resort on Gaza's fucking charred ruins. So instead of the status quo being maintained, now everything is worse for literally everyone. How is this the moral outcome?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:42:32 AM No.40370422
>>40370329
>how could they not vote for us (twice), we're not Trump!
Your shaming doesn't work for normies.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:44:36 AM No.40370438
>>40370416
the US supplying continuous weapons explains some of it, and i think that's a justifiable reason, but even if the US hadn't sent anything to israel in the past 8 years they would all still be completely obsessed with the topic
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:46:37 AM No.40370454
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>>40370416
ContraPoints summed it up pretty well actually.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:48:05 AM No.40370466
I honestly agree with a lot of what Contra had to say, even if she didn't word it the best, particularly the bit about Pro-Palestine people posting dead kid photos to try and get people constantly upset.

>>40370366
Not just turbocharged Donald Trump, but all the people trying to suck him off and ride his coattails to shape America to how they want it, a bunch of RETVRN idiots.
I feel like sooner or later, this presidency will devolve into his handlers running things in a Weekend at Bernie's style, even worse than with a mentally crumbling Biden.

>>40368631
I think it is, it adds a pretty big second map to the game. Its certainly harder, but pretty fun once you get the hang of it, and it rewards exploration in a way that feels very similar to when you first start the base game.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:48:09 AM No.40370467
>>40370454
And why is this bad?
I thought the powers that be where had
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:48:19 AM No.40370469
>>40370422
I didn't know normies visited 4chan.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:51:30 AM No.40370496
>>40370467
The point is, the far left doesn't actually want progress. They don't want to win, they don't want better outcomes for people, they just want to talk shit. They're just putting on a performance and just want to act smug and holier than though to anyone to the right of them, especially liberals. Basically, they're not serious people and you shouldn't listen to them.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:07:32 AM No.40371141
>>40370366
>this wasn't the "hmmm do i find kamala harris appealing...." election
Correct, this was the "will the democrats finally listen to the base?" election and the answer to that question was "no shit they won't" leading to millions of less voters turning out for them.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:09:00 AM No.40371147
>>40370496
Yeah I agree
Revolution forever
Lmao
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:15:13 AM No.40371200
Twitter lefties are unironically the reason we're all being genocided by chuddies rn
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:22:33 AM No.40371248
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>>40368162
>Ethno-nationalist states are bad actually
Judging by the fact that every pro-immigration brownoid and commie frames white decline as a precursor to mass violent "revenge" I'd say ethnostates for your own people is one of the only ways you can stay domestically secure. Jews just aren't my people <3
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:48:20 AM No.40371412
>>40371248
you aren't wrong but why should jews get a special privilege that no one else is allowed to have?
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:57:56 AM No.40371455
>>40371248
as a jew it's having read much writing like yours that made me realize why israel is not a legitimate project: ethnonationalism inevitably selects for and creates the most vile ideologies possible

the answer to anyone exhibiting anti-white racism is to oppose racism. but of course you would be behaving exactly the same even if your country were 98% your (most recent) native population. your response to racism is delighted glee at the excuse and pretext to usher in the accelerationist violence you've always craved. the national socialist is a petty thug that photosynthesizes and emits racism because it can't metabolize civilizational negentropy like a proper human does
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:21:53 AM No.40371617
>>40367681 (OP)
She isn't a leftist or even a liberal really.
She's said as much, she only cares about herself.
She hates all movements because they ask something of her. She doesn't want to do anything she just wants to be worshiped.
Which is fine, just don't pretend you have any political position I guess.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:26:30 AM No.40371642
>>40371248
Based
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:27:04 AM No.40371644
>>40371617
Transbian goddess
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:28:34 AM No.40371657
>>40371644
That's what she wants I guess
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:34:45 AM No.40371687
>>40371657
Yeah
Cringe desu
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:40:40 AM No.40371725
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People treating the conflict in the middle east like teamsport when both sides are disgusting inbred desert cults with backwards beliefs bent on genocide is a good microcosm for why the world is a huge shithole.
Not wanting to chime into the slacktivist done-to-death topic is the most based thing any Breadtuber has ever done.
If your take is anything other than "no Western country should have any involvement in this steaming pile of dogshit" then you're a massive brainlet who shouldn't be fixating on politics.
Specifically if you're a tranny and you're stepping in the shit you are the cancer that is actively killing trans people, you need to wake up.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:46:18 AM No.40371750
>>40371725
No western country should have any involvement including american dollars to israel and any european/america that moves to palestine to be honest.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:55:39 AM No.40371803
>>40371750
Correct.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 8:57:53 AM No.40371817
>>40370352
I'm one of the OGs I say nigger but I actually think they are cool cause they made a lot of good music back in the good days and some of them are funny
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:00:32 AM No.40371830
>>40371455
>nationalism is racism

Anybody who opposes nationalism is an imperialist. Every nation (ethnic group) should be sovereign in its own homeland and free of external interference. Ethno nationalism is not a 'project', its just a recognition that native peoples have rights, anybody who refuses to recognise this should be excluded from civilised society.

Israel is illegitimate because it required violently displacing the people who already lived there.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:02:28 AM No.40371840
>>40371830
>anarchists are imperialists too
you've completely lost the plot now
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:07:43 AM No.40371864
>>40371830
What did the nation ever do for us? Nationalism is just an organized religion for the cucks of the modern era
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:26:06 AM No.40371963
>>40371840
>now

My first post but yes, denying the rights of every ethnic group on Earth is implicitly imperialistic. Why else would you object to the idea of self determination and being free of external coercion? Do you or do you not think its ok for jungle tribes to drive logging/mining workers from their land?

>>40371864
Nations are real ethnocultural groupings, recognising that they exist and shouldn't be subject to external pressure isn't 'religious'.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:47:15 AM No.40372083
>>40367681 (OP)
>hey i know i said nothing about palestine for years but heres me saying left bad out of nowhere or something
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:49:11 AM No.40372100
>>40370466
>the bit about Pro-Palestine people posting dead kid photos to try and get people constantly upset.
In sociology this is called "the pornography of death" basically using horrific images of violence to try to elicit support from people because what they are looking at is so horrifying they cannot refuse but agree with any method proposed to stop the horrior

>>40370454
mood, a vast majority of activisty types just want to do activist shit, not actually enact real change.

a large proportion of the hardcore types just have ridiculously idealistic views as well. Like thinking that societal collapse will lead a utopia rather than fedual capitalism at best
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:53:38 AM No.40372134
>>40372083
I almost wish this was true because she did make statements in the past that were just "why are you guys mad about this"
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:54:55 AM No.40372141
>>40370469
It clearly didn't work in the election
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:55:34 AM No.40372145
>>40367804
>they are normalizing antisemitism
waow
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:55:38 AM No.40372146
>>40367681 (OP)
Can you guys go back to the other site you came from?
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:57:22 AM No.40372162
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>>40367804
She is 200% correct but woke zealots will still panic because she didn't fall in line

Israel is never going to be dismantled. There are about 300 reasons why Israel is never going to be dismantled, and they are all nuclear-tipped.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:58:15 AM No.40372166
>>40370416
I mean lefties got there point across. The DNC needs to figure out some group of people they appeal to aside "we're not Trump c:".
Decrepit useless "we stand for nothing" liberals are getting raped over the coals.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:58:26 AM No.40372168
>>40372162
apartheid south africa had nuclear weapons
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:59:09 AM No.40372172
>>40372168
And where is apartheid south africa today
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:59:42 AM No.40372178
>>40372162
She's 200% correct that nobody should talk about the genocide or be upset about it?
She just wants people to tell her she's smart and right without having to interface with politics or the real world at all.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:00:55 AM No.40372183
>>40371830
who gets to say what counts as an ethnic group?
if we oppose scottish independence are we guilty of imperialism? even most of the scottish don't want it.
what happens to minorities who might threaten that sovereignty? gas chambers?
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:03:03 AM No.40372196
>>40372172
there is no apartheid anymore
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:03:19 AM No.40372200
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>>40372162
Yeah it's impossible right now because the Dem establishment doesn't do or stand for anything (which is why they got slaughtered), not because the voters love what the IDF is doing.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:04:45 AM No.40372207
>>40367804
>mixed "stop the active genocide" with "dismantle Israel" and that they are normalizing antisemitism by mixing the word zionist and jew.
But this is what I wanted to happen
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:05:48 AM No.40372214
>>40371725
>they're not me, why should I care?
Same reason nobody cares about trannies
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:07:06 AM No.40372220
>>40372207
>normalizing antisemitism by mixing the word zionist and jew.
But Jews have been doing that since the 1800s. It's actually totally fair to blame Jews for Zionism and there's nothing wrong with antisemitism.
We can dislike people for their religion even if they pretend it isn't a religion. We can dislike Christians and Muslims and we can dislike Jews for being Jews too. Jews should just stop being Jews even if their retarded co-religionists insist this is not possible.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:07:09 AM No.40372221
>>40372196
yes. because they got rid of their nuclear weapons.
>>40372200
>not because the voters love what the IDF is doing.
irrelevant. Israel is not a US vassal and the US is not an isreali vassal. Its a mutually beneficial relationship and they can both survive without one another. They just choose not to.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:08:08 AM No.40372228
>>40372221
>yes. because they got rid of their nuclear weapons.
then israel can get rid of theirs.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:10:29 AM No.40372240
>>40372228
and be dismantled? Be invaded like the ukrainians? yeah good luck with that lol.
Israel will never give them up for the same reason the north koreans never will. Its an infantile fantasy to think otherwise.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:12:49 AM No.40372250
>>40371455
>the answer to anyone exhibiting anti-white racism is to oppose racism
The modern construct of "racism" is that all white people are racist regardless of their actions or beliefs, whereas other races who are "disadvantaged" can never be. In practice this means leftists simping for non western superpowers like the PRC while saying European civilians should die. It's a losing game to beg for rights as a future minority when the definition of care would exclude us regardless of power shifts. Also most browns are more ethnocentric... just temporarily weak
>but of course you would be behaving exactly the same even if your country were 98% your (most recent) native population
It was, and I wasn't. Mass immigration and the responses to it changed me. If course, a group that's shrinking and told it deserves to die will inevitably become more tribalist. We have no smart reason to be outnumbered in our land as group preference bleeds into all aspects of life
>your response to racism is delighted glee at the excuse and pretext to usher in the accelerationist violence you've always craved. the national socialist is a petty thug
Thug? Wow. Dogwhistle
Every society has some legitimized uses of violence. But I doubt modern nationalism would be as hardcore as Hitler. Most 20th century fascists in other countries weren't. We can't even get allegedly turbo fascist Meloni to deport illegal niggers yet so the claim that we're overshooting the mark is vapid and meaningless

If you're Jewish you've been subject to purges and expulsions dozens of times so there's no reason for other ethnicities to take your advice anyway. Tho your education and traditionalism is admirable.

>>40371412
I don't think we should fund Israel or be soft on their espionage and the way they flood western countries with refugees. But "liberating Palestine" is not my problem.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:17:59 AM No.40372284
>>40372221
>the US is not an isreali vassal. Its a mutually beneficial relationship and they can both survive without one another
what benefit?
the US gets a large penalty from its israeli attachment in the form of being hated by everyone in the strategically important middle east.
israel wouldn't be here without the theft of US nuclear material from Numec and without blackmailing the US into military and material support on many occasions (like the war of 1973) or even invading other countries for them (like the iraq war which was done due to jewish blackmail)

>>40372240
yes, israel should be dismantled
they are not north korea and have no prospect of self sufficiency, that's why they're terrified of BDS
they would last about two weeks under a blockade and sanctions, nukes or no nukes
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:20:25 AM No.40372294
>>40372214
Not what I said.
Making up shit like this is exactly why nobody cares about trannies.
Thanks for proving my point though.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:25:29 AM No.40372321
>>40372221
>Its a mutually beneficial relationship
it's actually mind blowing that an american can say this about israel when the most proximate motive for 9/11 and the trillions-dollar, decades long waste of the war on terror was america's support of israel
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:35:57 AM No.40372380
>>40372321
Im not American
Its a pretty unexamined statement that the GWOT was wasteful or a failure. Afghanistan was a failure yes, but beyond that who really stands against America in MENA anymore? 9/11 was ultimately good for America. Gave them causus belli to do whatever they want in the middle east. Almost all their enemies in the region are now dead or in exile. Saddam, Gadaffi, Assad. America won.
>>40372284
>what benefit?
Where were you for the past couple months? They just dropped bombs on Iran with impunity thanks to Israel lol
Cheap Saudi oil is going to flow until the well runs dry.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:39:08 AM No.40372403
>>40372168
south africa didnt have footage of us politicians raping kids
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:43:29 AM No.40372431
>>40372220
Jews are a race with a book and not the other way around. Their belief system is tied to their people, they're not like other religions that shat seek to add as many followers as possible. It's a religion made to reinforce their in-group.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:44:08 AM No.40372433
>>40372380
> 9/11 was ultimately good for America.
*laughs in TSA*

How? It was a huge waste of money and lives, inspired hatred and terrorism across the world, turned whole countries into terrorist breeding grounds, and gave the US government an excuse to spy on its own people and deprive them of liberty.

>Almost all their enemies in the region are now dead or in exile. Saddam, Gadaffi, Assad. America won.
Saddam and Gaddafi were never American enemies in the first place, you retard. Saddam was an American ally in the Iranian war.
Turning whole countries against you and then into terrorist states is an obvious negative.

>>40372380
Absent Israel there'd be no reason for Iran and the US to be enemies today. Iran has a shit load of oil too which they could just sell on the open market if it weren't for sanctions imposed by the US. Every American pays more for oil and energy because of the kikes. This has been going on for many decades.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:45:56 AM No.40372440
>>40371963
you're retarded, not an argument, just a statement of fact and the reason engaging with you is pointless
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:46:50 AM No.40372443
>>40372431
Yeah, and it's just as fake and made up as the others. Jewish racial supremacism by way of "chosenness" is their religion, you're right. Jews were the OG Nazis.

"Edgy" liberals tell atheists they've got a blind spot for Islam, but the real atheist blind spot is Jews. Hell, I think popular atheism is partly a Jewish psyop against Christianity and Islam today (like Sam Harris)
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:48:39 AM No.40372453
>>40372431
>Their belief system is tied to their people, they're not like other religions that shat seek to add as many followers as possible.
Also, Jews aren't unique here. Lots of religions don't proselytize and are basically ethnic, Hindus, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, etc
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 10:54:34 AM No.40372486
>>40372433
>Saddam was an American ally so Saddam could never become an American enemy because time is frozen and you can only ever be one thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_invasion_of_Kuwait
Also if you think receiving military aid = allies I have a bridge to sell you.
>Terrorist states is an obvious negative.
Is it? Libya might have open air slave markets but they can no longer threaten Mediterranean commerce. An enemy country in perpetual civil war is a better option to an enemy country that is organized.
The US does not care about quality of life in Libya.
>Absent Israel there'd be no reason for Iran and the US to be enemies today.
Hilariously wrong. idk where you guys come up with this shit. Enmity between the US and Iran began with the hostage crisis and has never recovered.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:04:54 AM No.40372535
>>40372486
The US literally green lighted Saddam they didn't care if he invaded Kuwait. Like you realize they had intelligence and bases in the region and knew what he was up to. The whole war was dumb.

>Libya might have open air slave markets but they can no longer threaten Mediterranean commerce.
Why do you have such a fucking blind spot to the fact that it's possible to avoid creating enemies in the first place?

>Enmity between the US and Iran began with the hostage crisis
it actually began with the overthrow of Mossadegh in 1953, but there's no reason absent Iran's proxy war with Israel that relations couldn't have normalized over the last 45 years
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:07:20 AM No.40372550
>>40372228
They won't
>>40372196
Sure, but South Africa does exist. So is the goal that we accept Israel's continued existence but simply get them to stop the genocide of palestinians? I'd be happy with that goal, idk how people who are strongly anti-zionist feel about that though.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:09:54 AM No.40372562
>>40372535
>The US literally green lighted Saddam they didn't care if he invaded Kuwait
Nigga what. Why did the gulf war happen if they didn't care lol
>Why do you have such a fucking blind spot to the fact that it's possible to avoid creating enemies in the first place?
Exceptionally naive. The US is not Micronesia. They are going to make enemies. You can't be a global power without making enemies and making them often.
the US will never return to isolationism.
>it actually began with the overthrow of Mossadegh in 1953
Correct but we are talking about the islamic republic here
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 11:39:30 AM No.40372699
>>40367681 (OP)
heroin
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:16:43 PM No.40372848
>>40372178
If you want to hear about world politics probably watch a politics youtuber and not a get drunk on wine and sit in the bathtub to talk about philosophy youtuber.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:13:41 PM No.40373795
>>40367804
Bitch, non zionist/anti-zionist jews are the minority. Don't fucking lie to me and tell me we don't all know this. And why is it that all the fucking faggots who bitch about pro-palestine types being (((((antisemitic)))))) then turn around and dunk on Christians even worse than they ever dunked on jews? Fuck this. Fuck all of this. Mealy mouthed pussies like contra who wanna tone police when once in a lifetime levels of abject evil are being carried out before their very own eyes deserve the fucking guillotine. If you look at something so bald faced demonic like this and AREN'T filled with blood boiling rage, YOU are the problem, not the people who are angry.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:59:41 PM No.40374011
>>40373795
it's exactly posts like these that are why contra had to write this

what israel is doing in gaza isn't acceptable but jesus you are so fucking propagandized
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:43:48 PM No.40374257
>>40367850
>Israel as an apartheid state, yes, absolutely.
what is the alternative? do you think jews would be safe in a muslim majority state? hint: look at how many jews live in muslim majority countries
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:45:09 PM No.40374264
>>40372178
>nobody should talk about the genocide or be upset about it?
damn I can't believe she said that
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:46:58 PM No.40374278
>>40367681 (OP)
>I agree with you on the issue but not the antisemitism
>NOOOOOO BUT I WANT TO BE ANTISEMITIC UWAAAAH
lol
rexie !!k1IKR+wYEC/
7/13/2025, 5:58:42 PM No.40374361
>>40367681 (OP)
everyone has been deliberately misunderstanding her its ridiculous. i donโ€™t agree with her exactly but we all agree on the important parts here
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 6:32:24 PM No.40374642
It just amounts to handwringing that the plebs can get a hold of the information and make their own minds up now, whether it's the war crimes of the middle east, or the Epstein-Mossad operation at home. The attempt to blame it on the messengers, instead of the medium, is very pathetic and futile.
As the printing press spelled the end of the power of the Catholic Church, the internet spells the end of Jewish power. The cat's out of the bag.
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 6:39:27 PM No.40374697
progressives don't care about what is realistic
>>40373795
christians and jews don't occupy the same position? it's like saying getting mad about anti white racism
>Mealy mouthed pussies like contra who wanna tone police when once in a lifetime levels of abject evil are being carried out before their very own eyes deserve the fucking guillotine. If you look at something so bald faced demonic like this and AREN'T filled with blood boiling rage, YOU are the problem, not the people who are angry.
I don't know how to get this across to you because you're probably autistic so you struggle to understand normal people, but what you're experiencing is not normal and most people don't think like you
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 6:41:26 PM No.40374717
>>40374642
lol jews have been through worse, they'll be fine. they'll thrive, even