I want to start hrt, but I'm scared to do it without a doctor looking out for me, I'm scared that I might mess up something

>>40392380 (OP)
>I'm scared that I might mess up something
abloo bloo
woman the fuck up faggot. I just go by feel of how much meds to take and have never done a blood test in my life and I've been fine

>>40392380 (OP)
doctors don't care about you. do your research, and you'll probably be more knowledgeable than them
just get regular blood checks and you'll be fine

>>40392380 (OP)
4mg/week estradiol enanthate and 50mg/2days bicalutamide will definitely be enough without the need for blood tests. There's no possibility of messing up

>>40392380 (OP)
You learn enough about your endocrine system to know what you want. And you're going to need medical care at SOME point.

>>40392423
They're also generally limited in what they can do based on what regulation they have. Trannies never proved their methods are good to the standard of the AMA.

>>40392425
This anon will take no responsibility if things DO go sideways for you.

>>40392455
There's literally no possible way for things to go sideways though.

There's no possibility for these dosages to give you too little estrogen or not suppress your testosterone levels enough

Injectable estradiol has no probable side effects

Bica pills can negatively affect your liver just like all oral medication, but this is such a insignificant amount that your liver is far more likely to get damaged from antidepressants or any other very common medication

The only way to fuck this up is not disinfecting your skin and vial before injecting, but this can be discarded as i assume OP is not a clinically diagnosed drooling retard with a handler and <40 iq

>>40392380 (OP)
>I want to start hrt, but I'm scared to do it without a doctor looking out for me
What's stopping you from getting it from a doctor?

>>40392423
How often is enough? I am trying to see how much money to set aside for DIY and they seem to be the biggest expense.

>>40392542
I live in hungary, it's almost impossible to get it from a doctor

>>40392547
i'm ftm so i'm not sure if it's the same for trans women. i went from every three months, to every six months, to annually. maybe that is too often for you

>>40392686
Ok sounds alright, do they take a lot of blood? I don't like needles

>>40392535
I'm being an ass for good reason. You just exposed a pretty fucking important failure mode in being able to do injections properly. Sterilizing needles ect.

And you've seen enough anons here that assuming there are no drooling retards is not safe at all.

>>40392547
There is no hard or fast rules, While you're setting up, you need more, but once things stabilize you don't need as many. You only get one shot at your second puberty though.

>>40392728
You understand that DIY usually means constantly injecting yourself?

>>40392658
>I live in hungary
Can't you go to another country since Hungary is in the EU?

>>40392547
You need the money for appearance, not the meds. If you only do injections, it's pretty cheap.

>>40392877
I actually am planning on moving to debmark, but it's not that simple

>>40392838
I was probably going to go sublingual since I want to mix the stuff myself and I don't trust myself enough to make injectables.

>>40392728
i think that's something you'll have to get used to, it's not excessive; i always found it tolerable

>>40393030
>>40393058
Maybe I should just inject, is sublingual much better than eating it? From my understanding its all pretty good, anything is better than swallowing.

>>40393030
You can't just order shots for BTC? Cheapest and safest probably, as long as coming from a known source.

>>40393092
I could do that, but just having a big tub of estradiol valerate that will keep for years that I can periodically compound is also pretty appealing since I wouldn't need to smuggle material in too often and I could experiment with different routes of application

>>40393105
not sure how that works but you do you, i'm too lazy for that shit.. probably costs less too

>>40393030
just go right to the needle.
it hits the best, like any drug.
the amount of $ you save with injections vs pills will be enough you can focus on other things, like anti-androgens,progesterone,dht nukers, domperidone, pioglitazone, etc.
you should get your levels tested every 3 months. and learn what your high/low looks like and feels like.
once you know your high/low on your dose, you'll be okay. and can adjust accordinlgly.
i can terrible levels with pills. i would eat 10mg+ a day and have terrible levels.
if i take 10mg worth of injections my levels stay very high for over a week.

so 70mg of estradiol per week for shit levels vs 10mg of injected estradiol for high levels.

big difference.
go right to the needle.
like a junkie.
::eats a handful of hrt pills that are not estradiol for bedtime::

>>40393132
alright, is there anything place to learn about sterilizing injections properly? I just really don't wanna give myself some weird infection from being the dumbass who macgyvered his own estradiol injections

>>40393142
I believe there are usually additives in the vials that keep the drug sterile.

>>40393149
alright yeah I won't try and mix my own injections then that sounds complicated

>>40393173
i haven't looked into how complicated it is, but there probably should be a good reason for it first.. right now it's pretty cheap to get diy. making stuff yourself is usually pretty expensive

>>40393142
alcohol pads.
a box of 100-200 of them is cheap and that's enough for a year+
wipe your vial cap everytime, and wipe your injection site every time (outter thighs, butt cheeks, belly)
and you should consider not using the same needle twice.
so you should have drawing needles, to fill your syringe from the vial and measure out your dose.
and injection needles for sticking into your body. cause they do dull quickly, and you'll risk more pain and bleeding more if you use the same needle twice or more.
so use a new needle every time. they're cheap also too.

you should be able to get a 1+ year supply of estradiol for $50
and a 1+ year supply of alcohol pads + needles for probably $20-30


this is what they would tell you if you went to a clinic or doctor about it.
t.not a doctor.

Another question girls, how often do I need to take blood tests?

>>40393205
Didn't know there's a thing like alcohol pads. I just spray from a bottle and wipe with a dry one. All the needles are single use and come sealed/sterile anyway. Probably don't even need the alcohol, as long as you do it at home after shower and properly wash your hands and stuff. The vial normally has a rubber stupper, you probably should clean that with alcohol now and then, and store in a closed space somewhere. Also subcutaneous injection uses shorter needle and is easier and probably safer to do.

>>40393363
When starting out official hrt at PlannedParenthood they make you test every 3 months which I think is good. After you've been on hrt for about a year with stable levels you can then start doing blood work every 6 months or so as long as you don't change your dose or anything.

>>40393675
Thank you nona :3

>>40392380 (OP)
Anon just do it start on a dose recommended and the adjust with blood testing every couple months until you find a spot thats nice. Also just start with injections if you can help it way better plus easier to find free if you know local trans people.