You smooth troons have been psyoped.

>>40403190 (OP)
Well duh

>>40403190 (OP)
No wonder men don’t like cis women anymore

>>40403190 (OP)
that is an abnormally hirsute cis woman, most unshaven afabs aren't that hairy

>>40403190 (OP)
thats a theyfab on t

>>40403214
Yes they are lol
>>40403248
I was hairier pre-T despite being white with no hormonal abnormalities. Women just start removing body hair aged 12 obsessively.

>>40403190 (OP)
gonna save this to cope for being too lazy to shave my legs half the tome

>>40403190 (OP)
that's some awful PCOS

>>40403261
>Yes they are lol
nta and i guess i'm not afab op but unshaven i am nowhere near this hairy, anywhere. that's how hairy my dad is
i'm fairly certain this woman just has hirsutism and is luckily okay with that

>>40403190 (OP)
you guys are all agp if you don't find this attractive

>>40403385
i'm agp and need a gf like this to make me feel more feminine in contrast

this is hott. she should dye her armpit hair

>>40403190 (OP)
I'm slightly less hairy but yeah. This is normal. If she were hirsute, she'd have hair on her back, tits, and face too.
t. cisf

>>40403190 (OP)
once i sent a pic of a cis woman like that but a bit less hairy to my cis male friends saying that it is normal and then they spent 10 minutes laughing at me
only for me to open twitter shortly after and the first post that i saw was a cis woman complaining about having to shave hair from her feet

>>40403261
i had this amount of hair pre-t and i just had a mutation which made me more sensitive to test, my voice also dropped significantly at 2-3 weeks test

>>40403541
There is no male equivalent to being shamed by everyone for something extremely visible, natural, and universal to your sex, and having to spend ridiculous amounts of time and effort removing it for so many generations the other sex flat out refuses to acknowledge it as normal, which further contributes to the gaslighting and shame. And if a "stop shaving your legs" campaign is ever launched, it will be branded as woke propaganda or something.

>>40403190 (OP)
i'm not even close to being this hairy on hrt
>>40403385
>finding an unshaven woman attractive makes you hsts
hmmm

>>40403593
its not that deep
men just dont know anything about women and women dont anything about men
society expects a bunch of things of both sexes, but men just dont care and women care in general

>>40403593
balding
height
spontaneous erections

>>40403190 (OP)
Hnng need hairy GF
>t. rans lesbian

>>40403190 (OP)
sweaty gorilla monkey sex with hairy women

>>40403652
You spend ridiculous amounts of time corrcting your... height?
>balding
Plenty of bald men who don't fly to Turkey the moment they notice their hairline start to recede, and there is no societal shame around balding apart from neurotic looksmaxxer circles, and it's not universal (some men don't go bald), and it doesn't start at puberty.
>erections
Lmao.
There is NO male equivalent to the body shaving social contract that binds women. I have never shaved my legs and all of the following has happened to me more than once: 1) random person on the bus telling me to shave my legs; 2) teenagers sneakily taking photos of my legs; 3) father threatening to beat me if I didn't shave; 4) mom giving me 2 hour long lectures on the importance of shaving; 5) doctors asking why I don't shave and making inappropriate jokes; 6) teacher making fun of me in front of the class; 7) friend asking if I'm part of a social / protest movement. Et cetera, et cetera.

>>40403694
if your hairline recedes, people insist on shaving the remains. long hair are also shamed as a sign of being "unhygienic" for the sole fact of them being long.
short height can't even be fixed and it makes you a pariah, nobody treats you seriously, if you ignore it, they call it "napoleon complex", ironically napoleon wasn't even short in his times, it was just propaganda in order to humiliate him, most women don't even want to date you unless you're rich (obviously to take your money, not out of mythical attraction to the rich)

>>40403190 (OP)
me pre hrt pre laser and non-shaven had less than 10% of the hair in that image

>>40403190 (OP)
Leg hair is the only kind of hair that is distinctly unattractive to me as a guy on a woman at least in terms of sex appeal. Not that I'd police how a partner looked on a week off or something like that but it's certainly a turn off when comes to sex.

Ofc I'd happily shave my own legs in return, body hair on men is a pretty divisive topic anyways when it comes to what women prefer, isn't it? I wouldn't shave anything on my body if I was a celibate monk but I have no problems doing it purely to appease others either, within reason.

>>40403190 (OP)
I'm a natural woman and I don't look loke that

>>40403190 (OP)
Lmao I can even get that much leg hair lol. HRT at 16 FTW

>>40403385
What if Im Bi and just find body hair ick. Including in guys

>>40403798
>just find body hair ick
Pedo

>>40403190 (OP)
this chick has more hair than i had prehrt, low effort bait thread

>>40403261
you were hirsute pre-T
hirsutism is common in trans men

>>40403805
Nah. I'm 25 and can't get close to that much body hair so not pedo. Unironically probably just a preference I developed from watching so much anime because even the guys are usually hairless because of the whole bishounen thing

>>40403812
>Hirsute is when woman isn't smooth.
Meanwhile the definition of hirsutism:
>Hirsutism is excessive body hair on parts of the body where hair is normally absent or minimal.
Please stop with the AMAB moments, this thread can only take so many.

I’d rather detrans than ever have hairy skin

>>40403214
>>40403346
>>40403383
>>40403806
>>40403812

>>40403828
and unless the OP pic is part of a specific ethnic groups that commonly have much hairier women that's enough body hair to qualify as hirsute
like the only thing stopping me from saying it as an absolute is that how much hair counts as hirsute really does vary by race

anyway the odds that you had no hormone abnormalities as a white trans man with that much hair pre-T is pretty slim to none
if you were a cis woman maybe, but a trans man? nah I know your ass has some form of PCOS, bet your doctors are just shit at diagnosing

>>40403946
I am a cis woman. Forgot to NTA.

>>40403214
>t. virgin loser who never had gf

>>40403190 (OP)
I'm amab and I never gad that much hair even pre-E and on minoxidil

>>40403946
>specific ethnic groups
these groups have higher incidence of congenital adrenal hyperplasia so it's still about androgens

>>40403197
They do?

>>40403214
>>40403383
>>40403958
I'm afab and have never been this hairy even if I don't shave for weeks she's as hairy as ordinary cis male. She definitely has hormonal problems or is on T.

>>40403946
body hair does vary widely by race and hirutism is categorized as male pattern body hair in women rather than excessive body hair in a female pattern manner

>>40403983
>some people are ginger, it's perfectly normal
>"wdym? i'm not ginger"

>>40403190 (OP)
This is what I look like as a slavoid preT poon, stomach hair included
Never had my T levels tested though so no clue if it's normal for a "foid"

>>40404020
>some people have leg ulcers, it's perfectly normal
>"wdym? having ulcers is a sign of some serious illness"

>>40404020
MOST of afabs I know aren't this much hairy. And no woman in my family is this much hairy.

>>40403983
>even if I don't shave for weeks
body hair can take up to 6 months to reach max length, I hope you mean 16-24 weeks with "weeks"

>>40403987
and OP is female pattern in latinas but male pattern in anglos and extreme hirsutism in east asians

>>40403966
receptor sensitivity is still a huge factor, especially outside europe

the point is that the OP is full of shit
in general this talking point is generally perpetuated by repressed trans men looking at a sample group of other repressed trans men as the average (ie. their close friends) and then applying it to the general population
like for example, OP
or all the trans men in this thread saying "but I had body hair like that pre-T so it must be a cisfem thing"
it's perpetuated by perception bias

oh and the reason we need to change our ideas of feminine beauty norms is so the ones who keep repping can be as masc as possible and not get treated differently for it
at which point they'll freak out over not being treated as different from other girls because they still dont want to be women

>>40404061
Yes, I wouldn't shave for so long. Months is more correct than weeks.
I was never hairy like OP.

>>40403190 (OP)
this looks like something related to microplastics

>>40404040
wtf is up with those digits?

>>40403214
I looked like that pre-T

>>40404072
So micro plastics now suddenly also cause virilisation instead of feminisation? Good to know

>>40404065
>and OP is female pattern in latinas but male pattern in anglos and extreme hirsutism in east asians
male and female pattern does not vary by race, what varies widely is quantity, length and thickness

>>40404077
Who cares

>>40404084
i don't know, maybe it's the girlboss thing

>>40403261
I think it's a combination of trannies here being extremely male socialised so not knowing that shit + they're extremely white so they have blonde hair that doesn't show as much
I've seen plenty of med women that hairy

>>40404040
I'm a slav repper and not hairy at all desu

>>40404065
The reason we need to change the beauty standard is that having body hair as a woman is not a fucking disorder. Stop being such a tranny.

>>40404170
Are you a vodka, rakija, or beer slav? Makes a big difference.

>>40403190 (OP)
would cuddle

>>40403383
This is several cycles of hair growth, you won’t get body hair this thick from not shaving for 3 months.

>>40403190 (OP)
Is this a lot?

>>40403190 (OP)
my cister has harrier legs than me pre hrt

>>40404254
Regular amount.

>>40404254
pretty normal

>>40404278
>>40404281
Should I shave

>>40403190 (OP)
Hot! I'm ftm and i don't mind female body hair. I get there's beauty standards and preferences or whatever but I don't really get why people are so viscerally disgusted by it when it's a normal part of your body that everyone has

People keep telling me to shave my mustache but I dont want to and I wish people could realize that if its a natural part of my body i shouldn't have to change it does anyone agree
>>40404292
This

>>40404287
Just do whatever you want?

>>40404287
thats up to you.
if you want to be smooth temporarily its okay.
if you always want to be smooth there is better ways.

>>40404307
>if its a natural part of my body i shouldn't have to change it
I agree. With one exception: fatties. Fat people don't deserve rights.

>>40403983
She probably just has middle eastern genes.

>>40403190 (OP)
I follow this girl she’s so hot. Hairy girls are hot af actually

>>40405346
still an androgen issue, congenital adrenal hyperplasia is frequent there

>>40403190 (OP)
females look horrid with natural body hair unlike men specially mens bodily hair is patterned

>>40403190 (OP)
i wanna be pretty doll not a woman

>>40403385
couldn't care less about others opinions

>>40403593
can men get erections in public?

>>40403214
Not really, looking like that is quite common if your hair is darker and you arent East Asian. Technically blondes chicks often has the same amount of hair, you just cant see it as well because of the colour.