Andrea Dworkin is, and always will be, the empress of feminism.

>>40405875 (OP)
>I knew of transsexuals in Europe as a small, vigorously persecuted minority… They were driven by their ostracization to prostitution, drugs, and suicide, conjuring up for me the deepest reaches of female experience. Their sense of gender dislocatedness was congruent with mine, in that my rage at the cultural and so-called biological definitions of womanhood were absolute. I perceived their suffering as authentic…. Looking back, I can see other, unknown at the time, sources of my own particular empathy. Male-to-female transsexuals were in rebellion against the phallus and so was I. Female-to-male transsexuals were seeking a freedom only possible in patriarchy, and so was I. The means were different, but the impulses were related.

>I said that if there was a Jewish state, anyone who wasn't Jewish would be second-class by definition. I said we didn't have a right to do to other people what had been done to us. More than anyone, we knew the bitterness of religious persecution, the stigma that went with being a minority. We should be able to see in advance the inevitable consequences of having a state that put us first; because then others were second and third and fourth. A theocratic state, I said, could never be a fair state—and didn't Jews need a fair state? If Jews had had a fair state wouldn't Jews have been safe from slaughter? Israel could be a beginning: a fair state. But then it couldn't be a Jewish state.

How can one woman be so based??

>>40405955
how does she segue RIGHT from trannies to jews - jesus

>a feminist can only like trannies if they perceive them as switching sides, their transition rooted in misandry ("rebellion against the phallus")
well, dworkin continues to be the worst feminist who ever lived, and that's really saying something

>>40405967
I dunno she is jewish? usually people seek to understand things through their own experiences first

>>40405967
she doesn't those are two separate quotes doorknob

>>40405976
transition is rooted in misandry - she's right on that one

>>40405976
writers "admired" by andrea "the man-hater" dworkin:
>shelley (the male fag), byron, jean genet, james baldwin, the list goes on...
noticing any patterns, here?

>>40406005
yeah, she's a lesbian who feels allied to gay men
every single thing Andrea says I always read as "I'm a giga-closeted lesbian and thus feel left out by society but I can't blame society for being homophobic - it's easier to blame men than the women who are actually causing my suffering"
which is really the same vein trannies are stuck in so there's a lot of overlap

>>40405976
Radical feminist thought at the time was that trannies were either traitors who were sucking up to patriarchal standards or weird fags who should be ignored because they will be optically ruinous for the cause. Andrea is one of the few who disagreed and felt we could be allies in helping break down the gender binary

>"Work with transsexuals, and studies of formation of gender identity in children provide basic information which challenges the notion that there are two discrete biological sexes. That information threatens to transform the traditional biology of sex difference into the radical biology of sex similarity… Every transsexual is entitled to a sex-change operation, and it should be provided by the community as one of its functions."

>>40406053
How would the optics be ruinous exactly?

>>40406017
as much shit as i give her, the fact that she had the absolute dangling chud nuts to go before a house subcommittee and say "porn should be banned, but only straight porn, and we should overturn obscenity laws on gay porn," in the fucking 80s, is dangerously, dangerously based

>>40406081
um she wouldn't even admit she was a lesbian
her views are the most stereotypical "man hating lesbian" optics bomb ever - she's just making women look bad ultimately - like totally psychotic and disconnected from reality - she just blames men for everything wrong with the world - so she loves trans women cuz they are the only men more misandrist than she is

>>40406072
because trannies = gross fags who have nothing to with women's liberation and should go march for AIDs or something with the gay rights movement
>>40406081
lmao she a lil schizo. One person's "optics bomb" is another's firebrand tho

Feminism is cringe

>>40406134
transgenderism is cringe

Didn’t she rage against some Nambla pedophile who was also a Jew

>>40405955
Israel is less than one percent of the Middle East. Nobody cares. If you don’t want to live in a Jewish state then move elsewhere.

>>40406162
>In the early 1980s, she had a public row with her formerly admired friend Allen Ginsberg, with whom she shared godparent status of a mutual friend's child. The intense disagreement was over his support for child pornography and pedophilia, in which Ginsberg said, "The right wants to put me in jail." Dworkin responded, "Yes, they're very sentimental; I'd kill you."[112]

>>40405955
>theocratic state
Israel isn’t a theocratic state at present. Most Jews don’t actually care if God is real or not.

Iran, however, is a theocratic toilet state.

>>40406180
pedophilia hysteria is the stupidest game of our modern era - and noticeably never is directed against women

>>40406184
>it's not a theocracy because they don't actually believe what they say
the existence of the state of israel is predicated on the validity of ZIONISM you shit-smeared trog

>>40406053
that's weird cause i thought dworkin was about the whole 'misogyny is biology' thing.

>>40406287
dworkin is internet memes about man hating ugly butch lesbians come to fruition in human form

>>40406287
Actually no she said pretty misandrist stuff but always referring to men and women as products of socialization, and hated the idea of female supremacist or matriarchal advocacy
>Biological Superiority: The World's Most Dangerous and Deadly Idea
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIID.html

>>40406053
but, she would of course have hated transbians. and that is why i am ambivalent about her. i love the idea of banning straight porn out of spite but she would label mtf->cisf and cism->ftm. so i have to default to my standard "if you're against porn ted bundy is living in your head" position. andrea's bundy was probably like the ftm vore guy but with gay men. if somebody gave her the opportunity to cannibalize shelley (the male fag) she would probably have taken it

>>40406184
Nobody mentioned Iran you weirdo? I'm sure Dworkin would have plenty of not nice things to say about Iran, although they do have a pornography ban law so...

>>40406394
>hated the idea of female supremacism
>promoted it nonetheless
oops

>>40405967
Jews think they are the center of the world.

>>40406268
Yeah, and Hasidic Jews don’t support Israel because they want GOD to CONFIRM its legitimacy. All the other Jews don’t care.

>>40406268
Zionism literally just means “Jews want a home in one percent of the sandy waste shithole home to sand people—and the sand people hate this for some reason”.

>>40407083
they are also insane....

>>40407095
its strategic sand - coastal fortresses on a sea connected to Europe - if Israel were landlocked nobody would care about it
Jews are traders.

>>40406184
that's because the jewish religion is actually not about worshiping god but worshiping jews

>>40407114
The Palestinians only care about Israel because they’re still butthurt about the past, and can’t grow up and move on for the sake of their children.

It’s funny how the rest of the Islamic world doesn’t even like them. They’re only supported by the people running Iran and other shithole organizations.

>>40407145
How is that bad? The Jews know the true power of religion. Believe in your people. Jews don’t actually try to convert anyone. Christians and Muslims sure do! Jews do not want to be worshiped they just want to be left alone.

>>40406211
Yes, but they are really oppressed, not pretending-to-be-oppressed like the LGBT.

>>40407159
>Jews don’t actually try to convert anyone.
That isn't the only bad thing that religious people do.

>Jews do not want to be worshiped they just want to be left alone.
Great. When are they going to leave and take AIPAC with them?

>>40407083
right, just like they've never cared, bc adonai is a national, ethnic god. the well-being of israel/zion is all the proof most of them need
>>40407095
>zionism
>ZIONism
it's in the fucking name dude

>>40407176
>ree the word sounds evil so it’s evil ree
In reality it just means the Jews have a home.

>>40405875 (OP)
well thankfully i am not a feminist
>>40405955
the only based woman is esther vilar

>>40407482
i'm not saying it's "evil," i'm calling you a full fucking retard for trying to argue that israel is not a de jure theocracy when that's LIT RA LY what it fucking is

>>40405955
>my rage at the cultural and so-called biological definitions of womanhood were absolute.
In other words:
>I hate normal people and want to poison the world because I'm an ugly hunchback jew who can't be pretty.

Demons

>>40407519
It’s not a theocracy, though. You don’t know what a true theocratic shithole like Iran looks like, lmao.

>>40407519
No, Israel is not a theocracy. It is a parliamentary democracy with a system of government based on laws enacted by its parliament, the Knesset. While religion plays a significant role in Israeli society and law, the government does not derive its authority directly from religious sources, nor does it enforce a specific religious dogma. Netanyahu isn’t a cleric.

>>40407560
It's a theocracy in the sense that Jews are legally and socially privileged above other groups.

>>40407653
Israeli Muslims say their mistreatment comes mostly from their own rather than Israeli Jews. What does that say? Israeli Muslims still wonder why their kin left. The Nakba was a lie. A big fucking lie.

>>40407560
>the government does not derive its authority from religious sources
it's called ZIONism bc the pretext for re-installing the jews there is that it's their ancestral religious homeland, which i've already said at least three times itt. the whole auctoritas of israel comes from its being the "true" religious homeland of judaism. how many other ways can i put this so you understand?

it doesn't enforce a religious dogma bc, what, the ultraorthodox weren't able to get their draft exemption? this is like the iranians claiming they don't "enforce religious dogma" bc they let trans women get srs (which is actually in total accord with certain of their dogmas)

>>40407867
How many Israeli Muslims have you talked to personally?

>>40407966
You appear to be insane. My condolences.

>>40405955
>Female-to-male transsexuals were seeking a freedom only possible in patriarchy
This is retarded projection

>>40408678
projection how?

>>40405875 (OP)
That's a man!

>>40405875 (OP)
>hideous
>jewish
>feminist
Good riddance to useless trash

>>40410340
This made me lol

>>40405967
it's simple we are the jews of the LGBT community
by which I mean no two tranners agree on a single thing

I wish I could've raped her ngl