What aspect of womanhood do you feel the most robbed of because you were born male?

>>40415829 (OP)
The having a baby part.

>>40415829 (OP)
Female friendships, it feels like something I can never truly have.
And >>40415852

>>40415852
it would be this for me but there are plenty of women who do not have biological children and i am certain i would have adopted anyways
i just wish i could have normal sex with my husband :(

>>40415829 (OP)
The friendships and relationships girls have seem way more sincere and fruitful than male relationships. Women are also unapologetically open and expressive which I was never allowed to be. I hate being jealous of women.

>>40415829 (OP)
Inclusion.

being open and expressive

>>40415829 (OP)
I really wish I could've had a close mother daughter relationship where she showed me how to be a woman.

>>40415829 (OP)
lesbian orgy sleepovers

>>40415829 (OP)
Talking to people, without getting weird silences and generally weird reception, and not having to overanalyse and self improve, just to come to conclusion that most people suck.

>>40415852
This is the only aspect of womanhood that matters. Otherwise they would just be a caste of slightly weaker depressed men.

>>40415829 (OP)
the youth part where you learn how to socialize and live like a woman and are free to be more expressive as the other nona said
i'm just like a empty shell now

>>40415960
Men have friends too

>>40415959
>depressed men.
How do people feel so comfortable re-spouting bullshit they hear other people say. What women are you seeing that are just always depressed? Women are so bubbly and energetic to the point that its fucking obnoxious. Men are blatantly the depressed ones, especially considering how much they kill themselves.

>>40415981
Tbf women attempt unaliving more often, they're just worse at doing it properly

>>40415990
No they don't, women claim they do for attention. The same way boys are cutting themselves today for attention, they arent actually suicidal at all.

pussy

being allowed to not have 10/10 social skills without being branded rapey/creepy

and also, obviously, the lesbian sleepover orgies

>>40415981

>>40416104
Was this supposed to be proof of something? Maybe 10 years ago, before society realized that "depression" isn't some permanent mental disorder that requires pharmaceuticals with the number one side effect causing Depression, this would have tricked some people.

But nowadays people know that taking Zoloft is just the safer version drinking every day and has nothing to do with depression, other than virtue signaling that you are "definitely so messed up in tha brain".

I don't know what you're so desperate to prove, yet save zero evidence for

>>40415869
don't feel too bad, most of it is fake anyway and they'll turn on each other any moment over any little thing.

>>40416146
>be depressed
>try one antidepressant drug without doing any of the other shit you're supposed to do to fight depression
>still depressed
>want revenge
>try to get SSRI people rounded up and put in re-education camps
thanks RFK

>>40415981
>Women are so bubbly and energetic to the point that its fucking obnoxious.
It's all fake. If you stop smiling, people treat you like the worst bitch ever. Are you autistic? You're probably autistic.

>>40416213
4chan is 18+
>>40416238
But men dont have a literal practice, with a name, to shield their emotions called stoicism? And men are from mars and women are from venus, right?

>>40415912
>>40416061
same(I'm a straight guy for reference). Just imagine what >>40415829 (OP) were up to right before the photo.

>>40416330
>stoicism
Pretty sure it's unisex.
>to shield their emotions
Women engage in shielding too, it just looks different. It looks like fake happiness.

>>40416354
Pretty sure all those drugs are unisex.
I like how I got you to start arguing my position.

Yes, both men and women are depressed and find ways to shield the world from it :) Glad you agree with me.

>>40416330
if you're 18 (and you cannot possibly be older than 18 judging by your attitude), you've got no real life experience other than playing roblox with other kids, SSRIs are not the only AD drug, and popping a bunch of pills while still parking yourself behind a computer screen is not likely to help except in a small % of cases

>>40416400
You're talking about this as if its new to you and no one else in the world has expirience with antidepressants. The world has moved on, we know that brain dont take on permanent chemical misbalances nor do they store chemicals, they react to them the same way they react to the world at large. They are drugs like any other.

>>40415973
yeah, but after my 10y when ppl started to call me gay for hanging out with more girls than boys i started to repress and forced myself to be friends with boys, so i had a "normal" "straight" guy teen years friendship, not even the girls gay friend experience

>>40416354
>Women engage in shielding too, it just looks different. It looks like fake happiness.
how can you even connect with anyone while doing this shit?

>>40416436
See >>40416213

>>40416383
>talks to himself, pronounces himself winner of argument
>also drugs??
Nigga what

>>40416465
It's one of the many reasons why relationships are difficult.

>>40415829 (OP)
being loved

>>40415829 (OP)
>What aspect of womanhood do you feel the most robbed of because you were born male?
Vaginal sex looks like it feels really really REALLY good and I often imagine what it would be like to be the woman in the porn I watch. That makes me sad. Otherwise I don't care about being a woman

>>40416465
You can't. Most people are fucking lonely, men and women alike.

>>40416498
Vaginal sex doesn't feel that good. On the scale from 0 to clitoral stimulation it's a 4. It can be hot mentally ig.

>>40416498
it looks good because they're being paid large sums of money to act.

>>40416517
Obviously I am including the mental aspect when I say that, but it at least looks more satisfying that penis stimulation.

>>40416521
I watch more amateur than professional, they seems to enjoy it as well

>>40416488
i would question if they're even possible

>>40416469
See >>40416330

>>40416472
How did you forget which side you're arguing for?

>>40416504
I might actually feel sorry for them if they didn't insist on behaving this way.

>>40416632
>thinks everyone on the internet is the same person
Truly reassuring that we have people with this mentality setting public health policy

>>40416723
Lol? Does it make you feel more accurate to willfully misconstruse someone are you genuinely not understanding what this conversation is about

Wish i could be a mom :'(

>>40415829 (OP)
everything about the childhood i never got to have. it makes me feel especially othered when i’m searching up things like “how to blow dry hair” like some divorced dad trying to help his daughter but it’s just for myself since i never learned. learning things that should be second nature as an adult is embarrassing. this also plays into the part about not being able to give a potential partner a child, since i also can’t provide first hand advice on growing up as a woman

>>40415829 (OP)
I think my mom hated me because I was a feminine boy. She would spitefully diminish anything I liked that seemed too feminine and never really let me do anything with her or participate in the girl side of stuff. I have a younger sister now and shes much closer to her.

>>40415829 (OP)
men liking me.
not being shamed for my emotions and interests.

>>40415897
They only seem that way

>>40415829 (OP)
A woman's teens and twenties, female empowerment, the ability to give birth
Take your pick it all fucking sucks

>>40416104
Lmao this is so real

>>40416989
Try to think of the upsides. Most women learn some retarded shit as a kid and it becomes their habits but as an adult you can find the best sources for information and learn properly and become insanely competent quickly. People on this board hold women to such an insane standard. If you spent more time with them you would realize how little youre actually missing.

Not being seen as a predator

>>40416061
Women just have better social skills if they acted the way men do they would be looked at as rapey/creepy

>>40418236
this

>>40415981
Women just have higher depression levels because they’re more emotional and mentally ill. The men who are depressed are simply more prone to suicide because of risk taking

>>40418359
Untrue. A woman isn’t usually a threat so their behavior is less threatening. If a random tiny ass girl started feeling your shirt material you’d be like “ok whatchu doin bae” but if some 6ft giganigga did it you would crap yourself

>>40418457
That’s true but I think the original anon was exaggerating. Were you planning to go up and harass people? A woman with low social skills will still suffer like a man will

>>40415829 (OP)
They don't get told they're disgusting rape beasts who cant be trusted

>>40415829 (OP)
My dad didn’t let me do gymnastics when I was young because it was considered ‘too girly’. I always loved the way leotards looked. The silky texture and the shine.

I just had to put up with male sports. I like football but I’m not good at it. I would have been much better at gymnastics had I got into it when I was younger. I occasionally like to practice in my room but I’m very limited for space and my body aches soo much.

>>40418483
Boomer turborapehon vibe

>>40417028
>>40418483
yeah....

I wanted to paint, figure skate, play the piano.. all of that was deemed too feminine and I was given the "manly versions" instead which was wood working, hockey, and a guitar. all of that I'm completely uninterested in, quickly became my fault that I never had any hobbies because I was "ungrateful and picky".. none of that would even be hard for her anyway, she's literally an artist herself and had all the supplies and knowledge to teach me while she would've had to pay for someone else to do wood working, figure skating was cheaper than hockey... I guess proper piano would be more expensive but she could've just bought a shitty keyboard and some sheet music.
I can do nearly all of that now but its just so... empty, I don't have any encouragement I would've gotten if she cared, she can't teach me anything about painting, can't ever be an excited kid showing a parent their shitty drawings anymore. any time i try I remember all the times tried while still living with her, how I got hit/yelled at for being too "gayly" and "relabelling" just cause i wnated to fucking draw a house or a cat or something

literally all of that is normal, hell even expected if you're a girl, I occasionally get to watch her interact with my niece when she posts on facebook and it's everything I've ever wanted from her as a mother. I can see how nice she was to my brother who was actually interested in hockey and quickly became a favourite child, Ill always just be the freak brat that couldn't be a perfect copy of her husband

>>40418475
>Were you planning to go up and harass people?
Women can literally walk up to anyone and talk them up and it's fine. If a man does that and he's not rizzed to the max, it is perceived as "harassing people" especially if it's a woman. There is no equivalence

>>40420316
If you’re talking about social skills in a romantic context then it’s not equivalent.
The anon said 10/10 social skills which I assumed applied to friendships and general interactions.

Most of my cousins are woman and i have a lot of aunts. I wish I could have had the kind of relationships with them that I would have had if I were born a cis woman.

female friendships

>>40415829 (OP)
I'd give a lot to be young and hot in my 20s.
>>40415852
Also this.
>>40415901
And this
>>40415916
Yeah I feel that. And AI therapist is helping the shit out of me. It's not a person, you don't have to worry about what it thinks or feels, which means you can just focus on what you think and feel.
>>40415960
Do you know I'm actually kinda okay with my male socialization. Male socialization is traumatic (like holy shit we need to fix this yesterday levels of traumatic) but female socialization isn't good either. A lot of the problems in society today really comes down to female socialization. We don't raise women to be women, and we don't raise women to be men, so we just kinda wind up not raising them at all and we wind up in this youth-obsessed, perpetual child mentality that is really the biggest barrier to gender equality.
>>40418236
I was molested by a cis woman.

>>40416498
>Vaginal sex looks like it feels really really REALLY good
it's funny when amabs think this, when in reality most women can't reach orgasm purely from vaginal penetration. they need clit stimulation. the organ analogous to the penis, go figure

>>40415829 (OP)
I doubt I'll ever get over my shame and fear of being open with others about my feelings. My sister is well adjusted.

>>40420137
Bruh these aren’t even feminine things at all. Your mum is just a control freak who wanted you to be something you are not.

For some reason though, my autism gave me pretty male brained interests. (trains, computers). The only remotely feminine thing I’ve done is when I asked my parents for a Lego friends set for Christmas they got it for me yay. But that’s it.

Although, I’ve repressed more than I think.

>>40420112
Bro I had these thoughts when I was child like when I was probably around 9-10

>>40422547
Dw you don’t give that vibe, I get that feeling as an ftm

>>40422603
Ohh

>>40420112
She's adorable, I wish I was that happy

>>40420395
It doesn't matter if it's a "romantic context", the man's intentions are irrelevant, if a 3/10 man comes up to a 10/10 woman in public and asks her for the time of day he's going to be seen as sexually imposing on the woman. You will never get it because you are, or at least are seen as, a woman

funny thread, bump

>>40415852
this

Getting pounded in the ass by fifteen different guys in high school while I'm "exploring my sexuality"

>>40415852
you know what's the worst part about admitting that i deeply in my bones just want to be able to have babies? it's hearing the consolation that you can adopt, some cis women are infertile blah blah, it just fucking sucks and this world is a cruel joke and God created me just to fuck with the world

>>40415829 (OP)
having a kid as a mother
not being a 6'0 tall freakazoid
not being hated intrinsically by most
not being called a fucking pervert for wanting to garner mens attention in the way cis women get to do guilt free.

>>40421773
retard the clit is analogous to the FRENUM alone.
the bundles of nerves that make up both are virtually the same a couple months after conception.