What moron thought this was a goos eye-Dea?
LoL if you use this, you are controlles by a tiny group of mentally ill men.

Whom you cant hold accountable.

one rupee deposited to your account for the needful saar

>>40434673
>if you criticize my control device then you are indian
haha fml perfect response

>>40434656 (OP)
explain how it is "population control"

>>40434724
Isnt it obvious?
You take a tiny demographic and control the information they are exposed to.
You isolate them and feed them a narrative to the point they believe they came up with it themselves.

you would have to be nuts to give up that much control over your mind

>>40434656 (OP)
imagine using browser addon to spot transphobia instead of your own reading comprehension

>>40434724
btw didnt the Nazis and Communists keep lists of "bad" people?

yeah Shinigami Eyes = Population Control

they are not protecting you, they afraid of you.

>>40434740
Why even put so much weight on online discourse?
Trolls have said horrible shit forever about everything, others have dumb opinions... who cares?

all this bs about trigger warnings etc. isnt intended to protect, but to control you.

>>40434733
>>40434743
you are literally schizophrenic. shinigami eyes is an extension intended to be used BY TRANNIES. unless you are saying this is a fed run 4d chess op to have people identify tranny sympathizers. i dont use it btw nor do i use social media

>>40434746
>You are schizophrenic
Who are pic related?

>>40434746
When google does it
>Bad
When amazon does it
>bad
When the government does it
>bad
When a group of severely mentally ill extremists do it
>ugh ur just schizo, take your meds

I don't use those websites cause I'm not cattle. Let me give you all a hint on how to integrate with Cis people. Be useful, be cool, have something valuable to contribute. That's literally it. I stay closeted cause I'm afraid of how the trannies will treat me when they find out I'm one of them. The cis people I work with? Completely fine with me. Just have worth. So many people view trans people poorly because so many of us are whiny losers who don't contribute anything. Build value in yourself, learn a skill, and be a part of society. That's how you get cis people to care about your rights not bitching at them 24/7. I agree with OP. Idk if it's population control but it's definitely harmful to just only expose yourself to ardent allies. I work alongside right wingers and transphobes and all kinds of people you'll literally never interact with and i humanize trans people to these people by being a valuable peer and not just being an annoying whiny weirdo. Unlearn your learned helplessness and liberate yourselves

>>40434656 (OP)
They started marking actual trans people red anyway so

>>40434833
>marking actual trans people
Pottery lmao

>>40434656 (OP)
Imagine being such a sucker for scams that you equate anything helpful to being controlled. Sorry you keep getting fooled boy, you'll get it one day.

>>40434814
Maybe because it's just account labeling instead of actual datamining? Every person does that subconsciously or consxiously on social media

>>40434884
>Sorry you keep getting fooled boy, you'll get it one day.
Main character syndrome

>>40434887
>It is good when we do it
haha

>>40434884
It's not helpful its just a tool to further enable your learned helplessness

>>40434896
and control an already vulnerable group of people.
Any group of people with a chip (hmmm chip) on their shoulder, being isolated becomes crazier and more extreme.

>>40434902
I couldn't agree more

>>40434890
>Main character syndrome
>Because I don't think tagging whether you think something is transphobic or not is mind control
>>40434896
It's changing the fucking colors of something bro how easily manipulated are you?

>>40434934
>how easily manipulated are you?
You overestimate yourself.

>>40434938
I'm not immune to propaganda.
But I'm also now three years old. Something being a different color isn't going to control anyone who isn't already looking for their entire lives to be micromanaged for them.

>>40434942
not three years old* of course lol

>>40434942
>>40434942
That is why they do it everywhere.
Reddit
(old) Twitter
>>>/lgbt/

Transgenders arent the only ones being used to control narratives and although its the left right now who is extremist in their view of freedom, free speech and individualism, it likely will be the right some time soon who demands loyalty to the party, force you to use certain language and shame you for not joining some weird parade.
Not that there arent already insane people who go ballistic if you criticize their side, but on the right they dont have any device or system to micromanage "triggering language" or opions or whatever.

btw you might be the only super special, smart and awesome and cool person on the planet who is too superior for manipulation, but the majority of people are morons.
Me included, I walk through a store and sometimes im tempted to buy and consooom brand product.
Same manipulative tactic.

You will consooom whats on eye level and easy, your brain is just wired like that.

Take that Jason or John guy, that Native guy from King of the Hill.
People think it was a homophobic murder just because they were told it was.
People are dumb and easy to manipulate.

>>40434656 (OP)
>feminism
>trans friendly
useless app lol

>>40435012
It is a fucking color change anon. You are diving too deep into this.
There are things to actually be concerned with. An extension that changes font colors; that isn't one of them.

>>40434876
As in like, not transphobic people but trans people themselves

>>40435060

>>40435078
oh I thought you meant it labeled them as unerwunschte
Still its weird to do that type of thing, I wouldnt mind an app that lets you check who owns what.

Like Nestle or Halliburton or Black Rock being denied anonimity

>>40434893
Okay, you're just retarded. I accept your concession.

>>40435110
You keep being hostile and dismissive, you are much too volatile to not have been manipulated already or attempting to manipulate.

Have a wank and relax

>>40435138
Not that anon but given your posts ITT I assume most people are hostile and dismissive towards you, you seem like a genuinely dimwitted and obstinate person.

>>40434814
true. so glad harris lost otherwise we would be in the biden forcefem camps for being marked transphobic on shinigami eyes

>>40435239
I cant take you seriously.

>>40435293
I mean a strawman is easy to make.

Imagine being so brainwashed that you voluntarily remove things that run counter to the narrative from your sight.

>>40435490
Why should I care? Nobody has ever taken you seriously, you're a Qtard tier loony.

>>40435089
Yes, I work in branding; I understand color and emotion. I also understand that once again, these methods aren't guaranteed, they aren't to control or brainwash, they're created for those who are already influenced by colors emotionally. There's reasons why logo color isn't the end all for company planning anon.

Also, this isn't color coding for branding, it's using green light for go and red light for stop.

>>40434733
So usually when people say "population control" they mean "reducing reproduction." This does not do that.

>>40434656 (OP)
>you are controlled by a tiny group of mentally ill men whom you can't hold accountable
sounds like western civilization to me!

>>40435536
Either this is shit bait or you are paranoid

Once nothing works, playing dumb is the next step.
>>>/lgbt/ run by the same idiots not realizing their bubble makes them weak.

>>40435514
>seething about extension that lets people mark your username as red if you harass trans people
Why do you think deranged faggots who can't stop thinking about girlcock for 10 seconds are entitled to my time?

>>40435630
Which one >>40434787 are you?

>>40435643
I have no idea who those people are saar. I don't spend all day seething about trans people on the internet saar.

>>40435712
But you are here.

>>40435878
Yeah I'm here because I'm trans, not because I'm a seething tourist trying not to let the tranny thoughts win.

>>40435959
>im in this thread because I am trans
that doesnt make sense, this thread isnt about you or you being trans.

>>40434656 (OP)
>exclude trannies from basically every community by harrasing them
>trannies make an app that allows them to avoid accidentally wandering into communities that hate them
>see it
>go into a tranny space and tell harrass them for using an app that allows them to avoid visiting communities that harrass them

what the fuck is your problem tourist?

>>40436182
what communities are you excluded from and how?
nigga reddit is practically owned by trannies
do you mean any criticism whatsoever is felt to "exclude trannies" because you can't take it?

>>40435630
More like blocking everyone with a different opinion and creating a filter bubble for yourself
Ignoring reality only works for so long

>>40436182
>he thinks he is the main character
stop, literally nobody cares if you hang out in the same place.
You just take shit far too personally.

>>40436191
>do you mean any criticism whatsoever is felt to "exclude trannies" because you can't take it?
holy crap Jinx! >>40436205

>>40436191
This. Modern society is insanely fucking progressive. Despite this, transgenders have still managed to make an impressive amount of enemies. Not everyone will play your language game or give up their value system for you because you're so special

>>40436191
don't be stupid, I got run out of my favourite general on another board after someone found personal youtube and exposed me to the entire thread, there's not a single board on 4chan which is tolerant of trannies other than /lgbt/ and probably /trash/

Xwitter is literally owned by by the worlds most powerful man who has talked endlessly about how he wants to destroy our culture and our existence, meanwhile Bluesky is filled with idiotics leftists who think that being trans is some kind of political statement and that passing doesn't matter.

But even if we are talking about reddit, then all mainstream news subreddits are largely in support of the recent rollback in trans rights, even so called reddit "leftists" sidestep it by saying "well there's worse things to worry about like umm... climate change... and ummmm rising costs of living!"

>do you mean any criticism whatsoever is felt to "exclude trannies" because you can't take it?
yes
i have zero interest in justifing myself to people who will not and cannot understand my existence. For the last 10 years I have attempted to explain how unfairly treated we are by the medical system, and how misunderstood we are in general, and now I'm tired. I just want to be around other tranners because at the very least we understand eachother. Unlike you tourist scum.

For the record I don't actually use that app because I've grown numb to the ignorance and/or outright hatred towards my kind. By I don't blame anyone who does.

>>40436205
There's not a single board on 4chan that tolerants trannies, most of them talk endlessly about TTD actually.
Can you stupid fucking tourists who have no idea what they're talking about leave? Literally the whole internet is made for dumb moids like you, let us have our little corner for ourselves so we don't have to bother you

>>40435514
Deluding yourself like this can't be good for anyone. A bunch of autistic trannys having their niche ideology affirmed 9 hours a day, everyday, is going to destroy whatever "movement " they think they have
You have to at least be able to convince people on the fence of an issue and make symbolic concessions to the ones most counter to your message. Changing minds is hard and takes skill, patience, and maturity. They can't do that, which is why they want your kids inoculate with this filth. That's why they have racks of children books and many kids themed youtube videos. It's a reflection of their own inability to change the rational mind. Stay smart out there

>>40436253
>>do you mean any criticism whatsoever is felt to "exclude trannies" because you can't take it?
>yes
hahahahahaha
as a white man, my advice is: suck it up, buttercup, we get blamed for all the world's problems and nobody hands out forum bans on our behalf

>>40436253
Trans people have no rights. There are no gay rights. There are just rights. You are either being deprived of what you are rightfully owed or you are not. Unfortunately, what you call "trans rights" are simply things you desire and want. Not very convincing for the rest of us

You choose to live an unorthodox lifestyle. Deal with the consequences or change your trajectory

>>40434787
a bunch of innocent people, with the definite exception of audere and the possible exceptions of milo, ophelia, and suri
>>40435643
all but one of them are dead or in jail, retard. none of them are posting here (i guess technically gwen could be).

>>40436194
>n-no you don't get it i NEED to force you to see my shitty opinion because blocking... le bad !!! and uh bubble or something
If i don't want to see food on my feed is it also a bubble that i block food accounts?

>>40436303
okay go back to working 16 hours subhuman rest is for the king
"rest" is not a right it's just your desire it's not necessary for life

>>40436271
>I'm so opressed as a white man
oh fuck off you are so pathetic it's unreal

my problems
>gatekept from life saving medication
>harrassed and even beaten in public if I don't pass
>at the mercy of my countries regressing legal system
>will be raped endlessly if I go to jail
>can't travel east of central europe or south of NA without being being murdered
>constantly demonized in the news because of sissyhon hypervisibility
>raised to a family of violent homophobes who beat me endlessly throughout my developmental years
>bullied relentlessly at school for the sin of being a tranny
>sexually harrassed by blue collar workers whenever I visit a project site (I'm a civil enigneer)
>sexually harrassed by disgusting subhumans because they think i'm a porn brained gooner like them
>can't even adopt kids without them being bullied endlessly if I ever get clocked
>rejected from job opportunities because anti-discrimination laws are effectively unenforceable
>will probably drafted if a war breaks out just like how trannies got drafted to fight in ukraine

your problems
>angry women who've been cheated on make jokes about men on twitter
>will be drafted if a mass war breaks out

and i'm white too so it's not like I don't have to deal with retards constantly going on about how all white peoople are inherently evil, and the destruction of my countries culture thanks to failed immigration policies. (Which honestly I care less and less about each day since the harrassment from my own countrymen has destroyed any nationalistic pride I might have harbored)

>>40436303
yes there's only human rights, however trannies are excluded from these basic human rights because numbnuts like you think that right to life saving medication or mariage somehow doesn't apply to us for some reason

shan't be responding anymore. go to hell cissoid scum. you will never eradicate us, but when the pendulum swings again, we will reeducate your children, and they will worship us.

>>40436271
>we get blamed for all the world's problems
so you're jewish. I'm sorry you've been society's scapegoat throughout history.

>>40436376
If you don't want to break out of your filter bubble you don't have to

>>40436392
>but when the pendulum swings again, we will reeducate your children, and they will worship us.
I seriously doubt that anon. I'm going to homeschool my children. Also, when you act like this, is it any surprise people resent you?
>>40436392
>yes there's only human rights, however trannies are excluded from these basic human rights because numbnuts like you think that right to life saving medication or mariage somehow doesn't apply to us for some reason
You should be more specific

When you refer to a "right to life saving medication", this is not a right. You are not owed this merely by your existence. I recommend you read a paper by frank van Dunn titled "human rights verses natural rights" for a better understanding of my position. It's a great critique of the UDHR and thr philosophy that underpins this type of false thinking about rights

As for marriage, I could care less about faggots getting married, niether is anyone taking that away. And no dint bring up some bill that was introduced at the lowest level. Nobody is taking gay marriage away
Nobody is eradicating you, your doing a good enough job of that yourself. You don't need any extra help

>>40436470
>You are not owed this merely by your existence.
you aren't owed anything. Go back to the mines work 16 hours. Kys.

>make thread about how trannies are isolating themselves from criticism
>i'm going to homeschool my children!

hahahahahahahahaa

>>40436470
retarded pseud
>uhm actually you dont deserve lifesaving care
>links to other's work instead of explaining himself

>>40436392
>rejected from job opportunities because anti-discrimination laws are effectively unenforceable

You virtue signal about human rights yet place restrictions on people's freedom of association. You people have no claim of "rights" being violated. If you cared about rights you would support freedom of association for buisness owners. You don't advocate for rights you advocate for privileges

>>40436470
>homeschool
well yall have been doing an awesome job for building a very good reputation of it as raising quasi-autists with knowledge of a third grader at 17

>>40436498
Reading helps anon
And yes I stand by what I said

>>40436253
he's a propagandist, part of their lie is that every media and institution is pro trans and they're the oppressed resistance. You need to be convinced to reject observable reality.

>>40436515
From my knowledge the statistics on homeschooled kids is pretty impressive. That's just a stereotypes

>>40436505
>priviledges
okay if nobody wants to hire me for the sin of being a tranny then i'm just going to shit on the concept of society
fuck it
it hadn't given me anything why should i give it anything
But you won't like that huh? You don't like stealing, shooting people, because that breaks the social contract. But who cares about the contract if it wasn't properly abided by in the first place?
What stops me from just beating people up except the police?

>>40436497
he's a hypocrite, what a surprise.

>>40436489
Yes. I'm not owned as a human "right" anything that I have not gained through honest means

>>40436530
let me guess, parent-reported?
>>40436540
what does that mean specifically? If in some rich niggas opinion your "honest means" amounted to nothing would you agree to working like this? He also cuts out all your other options for work because "you aren't owed them". Would you be happy or start chimping out? Are you a slave, or an actual person?

>>40436497
People homeschool their children due to a rising concern that public education cannot provide an adequate education. And looking at the results, these concerns seem very valid. I would love to homeschool my kids abd teach them values that will stay with them for the rest of their life

>>40436557
>let me guess, parent-reported
Well I could show you but thst would make me a pseudo-intellectual to link another person's work

>>40436562
90% of homeschoolers do it exclusively to either keep the kid away from knowledge that anything past jehowah/mormonism/whatever new trendy anti woke religion exists and do a shit job at teaching their kids
then they're the same people who complain that "college groomed them" when they finally leave the house and discover everything they've been sheltered from

>>40436557
I don't really know what your trying to get at and I'm not interested in having a broad discussion on economics right now. Let's zero I'm on rights and what people "deserve". I reject the morality of the UDHR. This is important because it seems as if many use this, even if unknowingly, as the basis for thinking of rights. Anyway, my point is that people are not entitled to government programs as rights. At most you could call these "civil rights " or "privileges". But then again, "my most basic fundamental human right!" Sounds a lot more attractive
>>40436594
I don't think it's the homeschoolled kids that are brainwashed

>>40436632
so it seems like you are the former. Alright. No shame in that. Just don't try to drag other people down.

>>40436632
But yeah, frank van dunn's article on the UDHR was really powerful to me and really changed the way I think about "rights". I recommend it to anyone that's interested in getting a more in depth understanding on how other people think of rights. Even if you disagree, I think it's important to interact with ideas you disagree with. Especially when the topic seems so important in political but also legal discussions
>>40436644
One has to admit, compulsorary public schooling does an especially bad job at education. I attribute nothing positive in my life to that institution that sucked me dry. Sitting me in a room alone with an e-reader and laptop would of benefitted me more. I learn more everyday than when I was i was enrolled at that institution

>>40436505
Anti discrimination laws only got democractically voted into place because only a few decades ago it was legal for businesses to discriminate against unmarried men
i.e incels like you

Anyway, you've made it clear that you wish to make it practically impossible for us to live well, this is why it's so important for us to do everything we can to brainwash your children into total subservience and reverence.
They will be crushed under milliniums of generational guilt, you thought holocaust or slavery guilt was bad? It'll be nothing compared to what happens next.
And there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. You cannot genocide us, unlike ethnitcites or idealogies there is no troon gene or social contagion, we have existed in every culture, and in every time period in one way or another. Every attack on us is just more ammuniation to use against your children, no matter how much your try to isolate their minds, they'll eventually enter the real world and learn of your crimes.

They will grow to despise you, your "heroes" will be criticised endlessly by the history books, pictures of your posts will be used as evidence of how backwards this generation is. As you rot in a retirement home you will be loathed as a relic of the problematic past, meanwhile monuments to our suffering will be erected on every rock that humans touch. This will only cease once you, and your fellow oppressors are utterly forgotten about, your exclusionary practices will be relegated to the footnotes of the most niche history books, viewed with the same absurdity and irrlevance as Babylonian comedy or paleolithic cutlery.

I want you to feel despair, your oppression of us is a grave mistake as we are immortal, whereas you are fugacious. No matter how outnumbered we are, or how grave our oppression is, time will always be, and has always been on our side.

>>40436685
"the former" AKA a slave
if you unironically think you should slave away at some random garbage because you "aren't owed anything" and got memed by jew propaganda don't try dragging other people down.
I do not only disagree with it. I think it's an utterly retarded position, not only dicksucking to the idea of """fate""" but also completely unusable in the context of modern society. With laws nowdays, there is no actual property. Your life is a monetized concept only vaguely liberated by the rights you shit on by comparing them to "animal rights" and by the promise of future workload from you.
If you want to do it, to believe in it, fine. Just know that vast majority of the population won't participate in your philotardic ramblings

>>40436392
>life saving medication
transgensmder surgery and hormones isnt life saving.
thats just what you guys convince each other of, what you really need is self acceptance and none od you want to accept that you have a disorder

>>40436524
Yeah... im the propagandist, not your bubble of yay sayers thst tell you that you look good.
Get real bud, touch grass.

>>40436497
not the same person
>>40436537
I leave for a bit and you guys start convincing each other that any criticism must be some conspiracy against you -_-

ur nuts

>>40434656 (OP)
if you really afraid of transphobia on the internet yngmi lol

>>40436363
>innocent
-_-
>>40436363
You dont seriouslu think I thought any of them were posting here today?

>>40436951
I agree, transphobia is less real than racism.
Even islamophobia holds more weight

>>40436916
>>40436932
>>40436923
>n-no i'm not the retarded one YOU'RE THE RETARDED ONE (niggerbabble)

>>40436977
You guys are so predictable.
You always try soft manipulation, prerens to be too dumb to understand arguments and misconstrue them, then go on the offense and when all of it fails you cry foul
>propagandist
>u-ur j-just u-uneducated!
Maybe be human first and foremost.

>>40437013
>maybe be human first
ironic

>>40436814
I also don't belive in animal rights either anon. Frank van dunn is critiquing the UDHR not the concept of human rights as a whole. I seriously recommend reading it, not just a blurb on leftypedia. I reject the paternalistic view of government. I provide for me and the people/things I care about. A humans right is not to have their desires cared for. What a pathetic way to view man

And yes, if a person has to slave away for 16 hours a day to make a living they should be required to. But first, let us make sure that an outside monopoly (the government) is not arbitrarily making the so called "cost of living" more expensive to line the pockets of corporate partners

>>40434656 (OP)
How terminally online do you have to be to care or even know about this lmao

>>40436737
>Anyway, you've made it clear that you wish to make it practically impossible for us to live well, this is why it's so important for us to do everything we can to brainwash your children into total subservience and reverence.
Are you trolling, or mentally ill? Hard to say nowadays. And that is honestly really sad to say. I wish harm on nobody

To make clear my position on anti-discrimination laws:
A buisness owner is free to disassociate from "protected classes", and unions
People are free to join unions, boycott, protest, and ostracize people who do buisness with that buisness

But instead of seeing the point of my message you say these honestly terrible things. You have no goodwill in you. You view everything as an attack. I would tell you to get therapy but they would also just affirm everything you belive

It seems we disagree on the future. I think people will gain common sense and restore their ethics. You think trannies will become martyrs like slaves or holocaust victims (look up holocaust handbooks btw!). So I guess only the future will tell (:

Just like you I hope, ill never stop fighting for what I believe

>>40436737
>Anti discrimination laws only got democractically voted into place because only a few decades ago it was legal for businesses to discriminate against unmarried men
>i.e incels like you
Oh no I have been called an incel online!

But yeah, it would be their right to discriminate against unmarried men. Do you think I would have a problem with that? I would probably respond by boycotting them and laughing at people who do buisness with them

>>40437440
And it was not just a few decades ago that we lost our freedom of association. the Civil rights act of 1964 was introduced in...1964

>>40437423
Your thinly veiled "moderate libertarian" act isn't fooling anyone. If I had this discussion with someone irl, I'd assume they was being earnest, but this is 4chan and in a tourist thread comparing shinigami eyes to population control

You clearly do wish harm upon us, however I'll spell it out for you so that there is no doubt. We are a minority, public opinion can be turned against minorities via the efforts a few billionaires with disproportionate influence. If a group was sufficiently demonized, then nobody would care to unionize against a discriminatory businesses or boycott them aside from the affected group, essenentially forcing them to turn to crime or self-employment to survive, just like the Jews did for centuries throughout Europe. This is essentially a legal mechanism for legal displacement and even genocide, as many would die from starvation or imprisionment or exposure to unsafe working conditions (e.g. sex work, has many trannies have had to endure before)

Yes, I have absolutely zero good will to you. I want to destroy you and everything about, and then remake you into a obedient slave because I do not trust you to behave moral idependently. I believe this is necessary because you, and others like you, wish far worse upon me and my predecessors.

>>40437454
i'm not american so I spoke generally.

>>40437440
>Do you think I would have a problem with that?
Our ancestors who actually had to endure it had a massive problem with that, so yes, despite what you say anonymously over the internet.

>>40437595
>Our ancestors who actually had to endure it had a massive problem with that, so yes, despite what you say anonymously over the internet.
Ok well I don't have a problem with it. I mean I do but I think they have the legal right to do so XD

>>40436953
>>innocent
>-_-
ziz and her friends were targeted for their role in exposing a coverup of sexual abuse of minors at a bay area nonprofit that took money from jeffrey epstein
when they tried to do a public protest about this they were swatted and hit with trumped up charges, the legal costs incurred left some of them unable to pay rent, which led to a violent confrontation with their landlord. said landlord's account of the events has never made sense, and his only corroborating witness was a nutjob who claims to have worked without pay for an unspecified intelligence agency for decades. fortunately for the prosecution, audere murdered the landlord so now they don't have to worry about putting him on the stand to face cross-examination.
jamie's parents were probably murdered by her abuser, alice monday, not jamie or ziz.
>You dont seriouslu think I thought any of them were posting here today?
no, i think you were doing very standard bad faith shit where you post an example of people ostracized by society and say between the lines "if you don't want to end up like them you better keep your mouth shut."

>>40434656 (OP)
>hey maybe think twice about retweeting this guy since he has a history of posting bigoted content
>REEEE LITERALY 1994

>>40437359
>And yes, if a person has to slave away for 16 hours a day to make a living they should be required to.
And that's what makes you a slave in my eyes. You just added some utopian not possible garbage to it to make it sound coherent

>>40437595
>Yes, I have absolutely zero good will to you. I want to destroy you and everything about, and then remake you into a obedient slave because I do not trust you to behave moral idependently. I believe this is necessary because you, and others like you, wish far worse upon me and my predecessors.
Culture is a person's duty. If people don't care about you make them care. People are more powerful than the mainstream education system would like us to think. Preferably you can make people care about you and your cause by not by threatening to groom their kids.
A person not wanting to hire you and you starving as a result is not genocide because you are owed nothing. Humans must WORK to sustain themselves. Not being provided for and then dying like a parasite has Noone to blame. Nature places obligations on us that we must work toward fulfilling. But this is just a larp i actually just hate transgender people. If it's any consolation I think the housing market should be deregulated. I would postulate that this would lower the cost of living. In my own perspective so yes i would want to live in a world where living is not artificially made more difficult. but you can also look at the amazing stuff Argentina is doing with their housing market.

Well thanks for mind reading me. I won't do the same for you. But since you outright said you wish ill will toward me I don't see the point in talking to a person like you, other than putting your behavior on full display for a more rational mind to observe

>>40437454
Nonnie you're talking to a slave look at >>40437359

Let him eat his goyslop in peace

>>40437748
What part of what I'm saying is utopian? Sound money? Housing or medical deregulation? Being for freedom of association and against big government spending and monetary inflation?

Why don't you provide evidence (no actually, provide it and I'll read it in my own time) that these things increase wealth and leisure time rather than take away.
In fact, ill link an article about capitalism and leisure time
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/06/joseph-salerno/two-sixties-rock-songs-that-celebrate-capitalisms-greatest-creation/

>>40437769
What other option is there other than working to provide for yourself?
If the prices of the houses means working 16 hours a day...maybe move. Maybe ask why they are so expensive in the first place

Anon is winning a 2v1 kek

Ok guys well I'm gonna go. Make sure to step outside your filter bubble every once and awhile. And if you want friends, don't threaten peoples kids and traditions!

But I'll leave with a book recommendation. You know i already really like frank van dunn's article on human rights. I also recently read "the best of Ludwig von mises", great collection of his best essays. Had some really interesting and fun stuff in it. Of course, I intend to go deaper into his work, but it's a real cute little book

>>40437840
That samefag is just pathetic
>>40437802
Maybe the fact that expecting this is unrealistic? You're doing the exact thing you accuse others of doing. Misinterpret arguments, manipulate, then ignore the argument completely and pretend to "win".
You're utterly insufferable and arguing with you is like trying to play chess with a pidgeon.
Maybe go outside your bubble of pseudointellectualism, realize your life and ramblings are worth absolute 0, and possibly anhero and prevent any potential offspring you could've had from existing with your level of utter retardation.

>>40437709
you definitely need meds

the bullshit you write to gaslight is beyond measure lol

>>40437985
I literally am OP and I am not the other guy.
Youbare paranoid due to living in a bubble too long.

>>40437709
>bad faith
nobody is doing any bad faith except you bubble boys

>>40437366
>freudian slip
bit funny you tell on yourself

>>40438964
no argument detected.
MIRI (then known as SIAI) taking epstein money is a matter of public record, they don't even dispute it. the amount was relatively small but also very early in the organization's history.
https://embed.documentcloud.org/documents/6346750-COUQ-2009-990/#document/p18/a520891
louie helm getting a payout for blackmailing MIRI is not exactly public knowledge, since it's under NDA, but every time it gets brought up people start hairsplitting about what counts as paying out to blackmail. if they hadn't paid him, they'd just say "lol no of course we didn't pay somebody to take down accusations that people were fucking kids, because nobody here was fucking kids."
https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/ZjXtjRQaD2b4PAser/a-hill-of-validity-in-defense-of-meaning/comment/qYWzABmWwHq6kGrbf
the CFAR protest is also well-documented: even the mainstream media accounts will tell you both that the cops were told the protesters were armed and that the protesters weren't actually armed.
the obvious explanation for the whole thing is that first they got smeared locally within the rationalist community for calling out predators, and then when rightoids were looking for spooky trans people to frighten their base, they picked up the "tranny death cult" smear and dumped it all over fox news. i'm kind of annoyed at how thoroughly almost everyone fell for it, i'm very annoyed that i fell for it and didn't question the official story at first.

>>40437762
>A person not wanting to hire you and you starving as a result is not genocide because you are owed nothing. Humans must WORK to sustain themselves. Not being provided for and then dying like a parasite has Noone to blame. Nature places obligations on us that we must work toward fulfilling
and how is this relevant to transgender people who want to work being denied opportunities to do so by discriminatory employers?

You're saying that everyone needs to work to survive, and you're implicitly advocating for a stratified society where some people are employees, and others are employers, and then you're arguing that employers should be allowed to refuse employment to perfectly able members of a group based on identity?

You are literally advocating for legal genocide with your moronic attempts at gaslighting and misdirection. Fuck you and die retard

>>40439570
I'd love to continue this conversation but I don't talk with people who wish me harm

>>40437985
You can claim I'm manipulating and misinterpreting arguments all you want. Again, pick any one of those topics qnd explain how that would increase leisure time. You have the floor. I have been nothing but honest about what I believe

>>40434656 (OP)
are you ready to die?

>>40441584
And don't get high and mighty about debate etiquette when you bring up an unrealistic hypothetical and then make ne look bad for answering honestly. The analog you used for me Is pretty relevant for you too
Now it's up to you to prove that literally any one thing I believe would lead people to be "forced" to work 16 hour days. This will not be done

>I WANT YO DESTROY YOU AND GROOM YOUR CHILDREN
>also please have a conversation with me so I can keep making fun of you while pretending to have a dialog

>>40441625
Are you ready to take responsibility or apologize for threatening me?

>>40439505
tl:dr learn to be human first

pfft. like i need those.

>>40437824
they dont live in reality
most of them are at home with their parents

>>40441555
>refusing arguments
>>40441584
>ignoring argument still, makes an ""argument"" out of nowhere
>>40441642
>pathetically try to make himself look better while acting like an absolute retard this whole discussion
>>40437824
>being out of touch and thinking moving is a 1 dollar ass action
>>40438982
>>40438992
>>40439000
I am slowly stopping to believe yall arrn't one person
I think you should be reported for being underage, there's no way an adult lacks this much knowledge about the world

>>40443005
Ironic.
Very ironic.

>>40442974
im not threatening anyone? lol its the lyrics of gifrel song which is called shinigami eyes

youtube com/watch?v=pzPElFdxMCM

>>40434656 (OP)
they're just collating data there's no need to be conspiratorial about it
they're accountable to citing publically accessible data, if you care enough to want to verify the sites it flags you can
its just kinda fatiguing constantly being exposed to people arguing against yr right to exist

>>40434902
Every accusation a confession

>>40436267
I convinced my doctor and my government to recognise me as a woman. I do not owe a cogent ontological account of what I am to every moral-panic paranoiac who demands it. You are already engaging in bad faith. You cannot expect others to afford you grace that you will not reciprocate.

>>40436536
>what stops me from beating people up
your frail EDS wrists, doll

>>40437709
do you have any info on the case they were building? The name of the non-profit?
If there's any honouring their memories, it's in preserving the actual good work they were doing. There's entirely too much attention given to their larpy tumblrcult sh

funny how this entire thread proves the OP

>>40445376
Counter: baseball bat

>>40445967
You still need to be strong for a baseball, otherwise people will just take it from you and beat you with it.

>>40446003
:(

>>40445401
>do you have any info on the case they were building? The name of the non-profit?
it's MIRI (machine intelligence research institute, formerly known as SIAI, singularity institute for artificial intelligence) and its affiliated "rationality training" organization CFAR
https://archive.ph/UZsp2 is the blackmail website that started the controversy
megapost from gwen, touches on a lot of stuff other than the CSA accusations:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220306221508/https://everythingtosaveit.how/case-study-cfar/
similar megaposts from ziz:
https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/net-negative/
https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/intersex-brains-and-conceptual-warfare/
ziz's conversation about it with brent dill (who she acknowledges below is not a fully reliable source)
https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/brent-dill-confessions-full-redacted/

one of the things that will seem odd to people not involved in the "rationalist" community is how much emphasis ziz and gwen put on MIRI paying the blackmailer. the context you need for that to make sense is that yudkowsky and others at MIRI were doing game theory work which implied, among other things, that you should basically never do that. the logic is that even in an apparently one-shot situation, if the attacker can correctly predict that you won't pay, he won't blackmail you. MIRI paying out to blackmail implied that they didn't believe any of the work they were doing was real or mattered and it was all fake, their claims to be trying to save the world were total bullshit.

>>40446899
>https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/intersex-brains-and-conceptual-warfare/
specifically in this post you want the sections labeled "Michael" and "Anna", the earlier parts are mostly about ziz's theories of transness and experiences not so directly tied to CFAR and MIRI.

>>40437709
>ziz and her friends were targeted for their role in exposing a coverup of sexual abuse of minors at a bay area nonprofit that took money from jeffrey epstein

MIRI and Yudkowsky did nothing wrong and Ziz and her crew are absolutely insane psychopathic murderers. Fuck off with this horseshit.

There are hundreds of cool trans people in the rationalism community that reject this insanity.

>>40447005
>There are hundreds of cool trans people in the rationalism community that reject this insanity.
yeah, most rationalist trans people are generally cool and good and have nothing directly to do with CFAR or MIRI, and also have ended up believing an incorrect narrative about ziz. very few people are considering the set of worlds where ziz is innocent, because there are high social costs to defending a weirdo who goes around in black robes calling herself a sith and who became the target of a mass media two minutes hate.
i'm not trying to attack the whole community here.
>absolutely insane psychopathic murderers
so having read their blogs and looked at the actual events, the specific kind of psychopathic insanity attributed to them doesn't look correct to me. people will just say things like "zizians do not believe it is ever valid to surrender" as an explanation for the CBP shootout and then not notice that none of the original group ever decided to escalate their interactions with law enforcement to a fight to the death.

>>40445336
That's narcissism or just a plain braindead take.

>>40446940
>>40446899
so a group of mentally ill extremists who scared the living hell out of people in many different circumstances, assaulted people and murdered people... are somehow framed?

This is so unlikely I have to ask; "How does defensing them benefit you?"

>>40447909
>so a group of mentally ill extremists
simply being trans makes you a "mentally ill extremist" according to consensus reality. those words do not have power here.
>assaulted people and murdered people... are somehow framed?
>This is so unlikely
so one of the major reasons i believe they were framed is that this is a threat model ziz was describing well before any of the murders happened. she talks about someone threatening to do horrible shit and blame it on her philosophy in april 2021, over a year before the first incident with lind.
https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/punching-evil/#comment-2377
my hypothesis is that this is exactly what happened with maximilian snyder, except he actually went through with it. bauckholt and youngblut, the ones involved in the vermont shooting, were downstream of snyder (youngblut was known to be romantically involved with him).
>"How does defensing them benefit you?"
absolutely please apply this heuristic to everyone involved's actions. you have no idea how much i want you to do that.

>>40448501
Your hypothesis is pure schizo rambling

>>40448501
Her avatar is really cool...

>>40447539
>people will just say things like "zizians do not believe it is ever valid to surrender" as an explanation for the CBP shootout and then not notice that none of the original group ever decided to escalate their interactions with law enforcement to a fight to the death.
What a horrible argument. So if every single interaction between them and law enforcement doesn't result in them trying to kill the law enforcement officers we must reject the premise? Give me a fucking break.

It's very clear their doctrine against surrender led to the murder of the border patrol agent. And I'm not a fan of border patrol or ICE but there's no other reasonable interpretation of that situation besides a cult-like adherence to a nonsensical philosophical position. Probably a similar rationale behind murdering their landlord despite his by all accounts being a very good, compassionate, understanding landlord.

Whether or not one wants to consider it "insanity", Occam's razor points to the motive being the Zizian "you should not surrender" principle.

Conspiracy theories of this nature are almost never real. No one was out to get them. No one was targeting them. No one had any reason to frame them. Also, let's use Bayes, here. Three separate murder cases is quite a lot of updating.

>>40451597
i'm saying the so-called principle isn't real, people (specifically the author of zizians.info) just made it up. ziz didn't actually say that and didn't act that way when she had an opportunity to. i put some probability on snyder's group operating under a sincere misunderstanding of ziz's reasoning but more on snyder being another instance of the pattern she described in >>40448501
>despite his by all accounts being a very good, compassionate, understanding landlord.
>by all accounts
ok, so now we're just going with outright lies? lind's own account paints him that way because of course it does. other people have said different.
https://www.tumblr.com/aflowerbynoothername/709535534713880576/the-dead-will-speak-for-not-even-death-can
i don't think this account is totally reliable (notably, it takes patrick macmillan's bizarre claims about intelligence work seriously instead of as evidence of him being a fabulist) but it's certainly no worse than lind's. lind expects us to believe that an 80-year-old man was ambushed by a gang of young healthy people armed with knives intending to kill him, lost consciousness, and didn't die.

>>40434656 (OP)
>What moron thought this was a goos eye-Dea?
???

>>40448501
It is pretty funny to me how dumb rationalists are. Bitches got scared of an AI god (never going to happen) doing eternal cock and ball torture on a program that simulates them. Its like what a caveman would think a computer does if you showed him one.

>>40451916
it's a Doomsday Cult.
Wish they didnt get killed by the cops, wouldve been a neat documentary and interviews.
I wouls have laughed my ass off.
The cringe is too powerful sometimes.

>>40448989
>Her
haha