nobody is attracted to us. most people who like ftms want us to look like femboys or cute anime short haired tomboys they can piv plap and not normal men. if people want a guy they will always go for a real penis unless they have trauma from cis men. we are expected to always be bottoms because of the disgusting axe wound we are forced to have. being a female to male transsexual is eternal chastity but at least its still way better than living with constant agonizing dysphoria

stop taking t and lemme in the main-cooch and we can talk
>short haired tomboys
based

>>40454310 (OP)
It's because passing ftms pass as incel looking men. Short, weird face hair, usually fat, adult acne, gross body hair, etc. Nobody wants cis men that look like that either so consider your transition a success. You now know what it's like to be a amab incel.

>>40454310 (OP)
Me. Holy shit. I want a ftMan so bad. You guys have more test than cis men these days. I want your jockstrap covered clitcock on my tongue, dude.

>>40454316
id rather kms than detrans but i know youre an annoying troll or chasoid

>>40454310 (OP)
i'd take a ftm but i think we'd have to probably be anal only with each other desu.
which is going to have tread lightly cause its a fine line between abuse/trauma and love in that department.

do you like trans girls because i think a lot of trans girls would really like masculine ftms like you describe

>>40454858
sit back
take cock in your womb
get pregnant
do what your body was designed to do, hole
you have NO OTHER VALUE

>>40454310 (OP)
How old are you OP?
>if people want a guy they will always go for a real penis unless they have trauma from cis men.
Kek very untrue

>>40454316
Wow you're so edgy, cool, and original.
>>40454310 (OP)
So.... here's the thing OP. I'm a trans woman and I feel like I need people like you. You're extremely valuable to me and I appreciate you.
I'm sick of all the trans community just being a bunch of extremist trans femmes and fuckbois who don't understand how political *theories* work, among other things. I need people like you who aren't trans femmes. I know its harder for you all. It just is. But most of these dumb girls don't understand a lick of that because they only THINK they're intersectional. I'm so tired of this defeatism.
So I just like anyone like you to know that.

As for the whole attraction thing... you could save someone, you know. I'm most likely bisexual to some unknown extent, but choose to identify as a lesbian trans woman because I'm scared of men and find the idea of being submissive to one disgusting. I have a girlfriend now, but if I did not and I met you, you could've have helped me so much even if I ended up not swinging enough that way. I would absolutely date a trans man and I hold so much respect to any AFAB who has truly realized themself and made it to the other end. Hell, I even respect the small-but-higher-in-this-demographic, number of detransitioners who end up genuinely realizing it wasn't right for them, provided they don't turn that trauma into misguided bigotry.

As for the genitals, I don't think that much about what's in people's pants.

We're out there, anon. Don't give into dispair. Also try not to be on 4chan too much if you can help it.

I wish I could advise you on how to enter trans spaces, but I really don't know. Lesbian spaces might be easier... but only really good ones if so and I don't know much about it.

Still, just don't give in to dispair. We have enough trans people like that.

>>40455093
i hope you realise how uncomfortable this post is to read

>>40455093
>>40454310 (OP)
And to re-emphasize and/or clarify, I'm scared of cis men. Trans men I am not; I worry about them. I want you all to be okay because a lot of these trans femmes are NOT okay and cis men are definitely NOT okay either.

AMABs are kinda all fucked up desu... I mean so are AFABs though I mean I know about that too, but yeah I don't know where I'm going with this any more. Just know that it isn't true that people aren't attracted to you. I might be. Its just hard to meet you all and to know that you are trans and I don't know I feel like I'm just fumbling over my words now, but I respect you.

>>40455116
girlie you have a lot of transmisogyny to figure out and the way you talk about other trans people is quite gross

>>40455119
>other trans people
I was talking about a broad community. Not every fucking trans femme is garbage

Fuck whatever I give up I'm too awkward for this shit..Why do I browse here ever

>>40455092
how is that untrue? nobody likes plastic over real penis

>>40454310 (OP)
>I want to be a man SOOOO bad
>I will base my entire life and personality around it
>I will spend all my time and money trying to be a man
>But being a man sucks!
lol shut the fuck up!

you're not masculine you're a söylord

>>40455692
Where did I say being a man sucks? I said being a pooner sucks.

>>40454310 (OP)
Stop whining about not being pursued by cis men, foid behaviour. You aren't doing yourself any favors.

>>40454310 (OP)
back when i was single i tried to date ftms but none of them showed interest in me, even the ones who seemed traditionally masculine and flirted with me

>>40454310 (OP)
I love ftm twinks :3

>>40454310 (OP)
venting is fembrained. ngmi.

>>40455092
I take pussy over penis. I have big pp and it loves little vaginas

>>40457329
They are all gay

>>40454310 (OP)
I would love you, but I'm mtf... maybe you'll see me as a man cause I'm ugly? please??

>>40457353
I see mtfs as women even if they don't pass

>>40454310 (OP)
a lot of masc ftms are masculine in an alt kinda way, which i dont see among other cis gays
i've been attracted to some of them specifically because of this

>>40454310 (OP)
Flux is that you?

>>40457382
if that was flux he would've mentioned balding in the op

>>40454310 (OP)
if you're at least manlet height and you're not completely living in delusion then some straight women would be down.

>>40457404
FUCK you

>>40457430
but you have to be cool with me never, ever wanting to touch or interact with your groin.

>>40454310 (OP)
I can't imagine dating anyone but my spiritual opposite. There is such beauty in ftm x mtf dating. Something that has formed my life to such incredible lengths, and has induced so much strife, to find someone that understands intuitively, to see the synchronicities between our lives. There's nothing that warms my entire being like that.
I just love them with all my heart, it makes me so sentimental.

>>40457451
Why would I be cool with dating someone like that?

>>40457929
well, many/most wouldn't be. but, think about it, a rugged FTM x straight woman is the most natural pairing. she would want nothing to do with the parts that he himself is repulsed by.

>>40454310 (OP)
Are you attracted to cis women
I have fetish for masculine trans men with pussies

>>40458080
Generally no but because most cis women I see are normies. I could potentially like someone autistic or terminally online like me

>>40458080
why are you interested in masc trans men yet into cunts? lesbian?

>>40458145
Would a man with a fetish for dickgirls be inherently gay?

>>40459800
fucking yes lmao

>>40455581
think again

>>40460151
thats just one person compared to millions

>>40460292
Not even that anon but you’re completely retarded. Trans men are very valuable and very good partners in my eyes and have always been my best lovers

I drink 6 litres a day. I havent slept for 8 hours straight in years.

Im suffering