The Optics Problem - /lgbt/ (#40467633) [Archived: 151 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:39:02 PM No.40467633
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A big part of the reason trans rights are where they are is lack of optics. When there's a huge autistic comorbidity (no self or social awareness) AND there's a demonization of those who try to consider messaging or presentation, this is the only outcome.

Also, notice how almost every optics-bomb is not exclusively into men and probably autistic.
>Christine
Lesbian, autistic
>Dylan Mulvaney
Came out as bi
>Jessica Yaniv
Lesbian
>Kris Tyson
Lesbian, probably autistic
>Keffals
Lesbian, autistic
>Choob
Bi, autistic
Wu is the only straight tranny I can think of that makes the whole collective look bad.

Why can't the community accept that normal people have become radicalized against us in major part because there is less-than-zero concern for optics? It's not fair those of us who just try to exist quietly and as close to normal as possible are being punished too.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:45:23 PM No.40467690
Most trannies are straight males. You want them to pretend to be gay and date men for optics reasons?

Most trannies literally hate gay men. Ive actually only ever experienced pure homophobic hate from trannies. Usually straight people just make lighthearted jokes.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:49:48 PM No.40467719
>>40467633 (OP)
Most normies only maybe know about Dylan out of all of these. You spend all day on the computer. The optics problem is that normies think being a male woman or female man is weird and insane in and of itself. Similarly, normies thought being gay was gross by itself. The initial problem wasn't that only the freaks were getting the spotlight, it was that normies thought that just being gay was bad. You're at the same stage of acceptance. I don't know why it's so hard for people here to accept this (it's actually because you're all post-chuds who radicalized watching cringe compilations with weird, ugly troons and you're trying to rationalize your prior views and synthesize them instead of accepting and fully rejecting your prior flaws).
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:52:51 PM No.40467741
>>40467690
>You want them to pretend to be gay and date men for optics reasons?
No, retard.
I want them to recognize "if I'm an autistic tranny, maybe I should defer to someone who can communicate better and not automatically kneejerk 'NO' when they say I'm making things worse for everyone."

>>40467719
>Most normies only maybe know about Dylan out of all of these
They're just examples. When most normies think about trannies they're thinking of 6"0 rapehons which is the same shit as most of those examples. I don't think people would be as adamantly against trans people--sure they might think they're weird, as they did historically--if this wasn't the image of them. Remember trans rights only got this bad recently, which coincided with what I'm describing. No one was banning Wendy Carlos' HRT because she acted normal enough and presented herself as normal enough
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:54:10 PM No.40467754
>>40467690
hm, that's weird, i love gay men. i feel kinship with them, and dont consider myself too different from them. that is who i get along with most easily, even more than other (agp) trannies. obviously hsts are just estrogenized gay men so i fuck with them too.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:59:16 PM No.40467776
>>40467690
>Most trannies literally hate gay men
bro where do you live?? I've never met a tranny who hates gay men and I know a lot of trannies
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:27:40 PM No.40468012
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>>40467633 (OP)
The real problem is that the media will just focus on 1 optics bomb instead of 1000 trutrans queens. So you really have to flood the space with positive examples to drown out the optics blackholes, but the paradox is that the most passing trans people will probably just stealth and live happy lives instead of subjecting themselves to the media spotlight. Ultimately you have to incentivize and support those positive examples and somehow give them a reason to defend the neverpasser Shudra caste.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:30:29 PM No.40468034
>>40468012
honestly this, fox news hon of the month isnt going away anytime soon. when they run out of hons they will just invent their own (wood-shop teacher psyop).
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:35:21 PM No.40468076
>>40468012
>>40468034
That's not a convincing argument to just roll over and not care, because that's what has been done up to this point. That didn't work
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:38:47 PM No.40468100
>>40468076
fine here is a call to action: STOP GOING STEALTH. you choose a personally beneficial outcome to the detriment that peoples perception of you will be easily deamonized unaware hons.
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7/22/2025, 11:42:55 PM No.40468137
>>40467633 (OP)
optics are a meme the cissies will hate us no matter what we do
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:45:13 PM No.40468160
>>40468137
1. Trans acceptance is on a spectrum, there are people genuinely on the fence
2. Repping youngshits who are figuring out themselves are much more likely to transition if they have positive role models instead of rapehons as their reference for what transgenderism is
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:55:31 PM No.40468246
>>40468137
>>40468160
People like Musk or Glinner exist and will hate trans people no matter what, but most aren't that insanely neurotic and they don't hold deeply-held beliefs about trans people. The median voter/person can be appealed to. Autists don't understand this and think everyone thinks as black or white as them and that's sort of the problem I'm trying to point out.

The more Schafers and really even just normal, passing trans women we have that people can just. Casually know "oh she's actually pretty nice and normal overall, maybe I should reevaluate," or "maybe I can transition," the better things are.