I'm making this thread because this board is diametrically opposed to shit on /pol/ and i'm curious. I see a lot of troons say how they believe in white replacement for "karma" or how they accept it and how it doesn't serve to be racist or keep an ingroup biais "it's just inevitable" and it's better be nice and tolerant to others anyways.

When in some time Europe and America becomes minority white, and the people representing the societies will mostly come from overseas. Do you really think trans rights will survive? Most migrants, as well as blacks, keep among themselves, there are not integrated like the minority you'd see in a college class or some lgbt discord. They mostly don't believe in lgbt and are opposed to it. Rights for sexual minorities have only become a much more ingrained thing in western society and culture. When that is gone do you really think leftist social politics will necessarily endure, when the society who let's these things exist erodes away?

>>40467959 (OP)
trans rights did not come from the benevolence of white people. They came from years of struggle and fighting. The oppressor class never raises up the oppressed through their own volition.

This is a good question, but I live in the present. Today we have people who want us dead in the right of our own societies. Even if there is some truth to this, we can't we have to endure, later we look at the future.

>>40467959 (OP)
I have never seen anyone genuinely advocate for this. I dont go on /pol/ but I'm assuming if you're seeing troons post that argument there they're either larping or trolling, if there's even a difference.
I'm also not racist, I think it's fully possible that the absolute failure of European countries to support assimilation of western values regarding women's and lgbt rights to its immigrant population means I need to hate all Muslims or treat them badly. I think the problem is just especially exacerbated in Germany due to the government's perpetual self consciousness of its nazi past, which maybe it will finally get over with EU military mobilization efforts against Russia.
Also it's not like "white people" in general are going to have my back when I'm not even white (or half white at best) in the first place. I do support people connecting with their ethnic heritage though whether it be Irish Scandinavian Italian Polish etc.

why did the entire right wing get one shotted by the camp of saints.

>>40468008
Also yeah this, the people actively trying to put a hindrance on my fully informed adult decision to continue taking the medicine I've been on for over a decade aren't Muslims, they're texas lawmakers that produce a slurry of bills trying to move the overton window on government intrusion on an individuals healthcare

What rights?

>>40468007
>>40468008
You're wrong. It absolutely did. Within many generations, through the foundations of christian tolerance (if you like it or not) and later leftist and liberal politics, modern social policies that all originated in Europe. John Money, Weimar Germany and even in the 1920's Europe had ministrels and people who crossdressed. It's a concept that has mostly started there and spread internationally, even if you try to rewrite history and talk about native spirit-genders, etc. There is no other place that accepts you. There is no other culture where people are shamed for mistreating you. Many "brown" countries you can be killed for simply existing.

>>40468053
Trans rights, it's not fully there yet but you are treated like humans and people in society accept your gender even if there is a vocal minority that doesn't support it.

>>40468056
oh yeah well in that case its still white peoples fault because we were living in Atlantis which was a pro-trans post-scarcity state where people could become anthros through science and we were destroyed by Yakubs first legion.

>>40468074
I dunno what you are talking about anon

>>40468056
there's documented cases of trans people earlier than 1920 THOUGH
also germany has full transgenderism prior to 1920 so again you're wrong

>>40468032
There is also a victim mentality. people are educated into seeing their history as being evil and how they are the oppressors of the common people. This is how we have redefined history. It's normal that people of colour, from those old colonial territories are opposed to "white culture" like LGBTQ rights, transgenderism, etc.

It's not as much as blindly hating others, but rather to have a spirit of self-preservation. To protect your own from the abuse of others.

>>40467959 (OP)
>I see a lot of troons say how they believe in white replacement for "karma"
Where do you meet so many morons? Anyway I'm white and like it when people around me are white too. Also Israel > Palestine.

>>40468080
that's make-belief cope.

>>40468133
I'm just making up fiction and calling it history since thats what you're doing

>>40468096
Grasping at straws, i'm explaining how these ideas have had more time to ingrain themselves in european society. I know there were trannies before and after 1920.

>>40468082
Reread what I say then. You are accepted in society. People treat you as the gender you say you are. You are considered human and have the same rights as everyone else. There people opposed to you, but you have the right to exist.

>>40468164
unironically you are a turbo retard

>>40468148
That shit really happened though and you can't deny it. You can't compare Atlantis to the 1920's and fucking Weimar Germany you absolute moron. How do you feel about your social politics and rights being peeled away in a few generations because you useful idiots always choose the most self-destructive option?

>>40468170
Where are you treated as second-class citizens? Do you have to go drink from the tranny fountain or eat in the tranny restaurants. You probably got a passport with your chosen name and gender. Even if Trump is president, chuds insult you and want you dead, you got rights as anyone else does yo aren't being put into prisons. Here's another pepe sped.

>>40468189
again you're under the delusion that white people or cis people gave us our rights when we won them through years of struggle.
Everything you've been saying is historical revisionism. Christianity is the direct cause of most of these issues as its a worthless backwards religion that holds straight men with power as the only ones worthy of being considered human.
There is only one truth and that's that humans are all fundementally the same, and all humans are fundementally evil. The stuff you don't like about other races exists in your own and your either too stupid or willingly blind yourself so you can enjoy the delusion of righteousness. Fuck you and fuck your god.

>>40468164
Okay seriously tho christians don't accept me as much as you say they do. Getting angry about it won't change that.

>>40468208
If you're going to pretend that you don't see the assault on trans rights and more and more acts being passed that codify mistreatment against trans people then you are obviously arguing in bad faith. Especially when you acknowledge its happening in >>40468189. Suck start a shotgun nazi white trash.

>>40468226
Yes white people (cis people) did give you rights. They are the ones that populate the most in our society, most politicians are cis and they have given you those rights after generations and generations of ideas slowly spreading.

I'm not a christian and I know you're anti-christian. But when you disregard the church as an institution, Jesus talked about turning the other cheek and of tolerance. Today we also talk about tolerance of other cultures and sexualities. Christianity (love for each person regardless of sin) inspired liberalism (individual choices and rights of a person) which inspired materialistic sciences and things like socialism. Socialists, even if they're opposed to liberal economics, believe in the right of every person to live a fair life. It didn't come out of thin air.

Other races care about their own. See how blacks care about "black culture" and indians go live with other indians and hire people like them. Whites are the only ones to not be like this. It's not about hating anyone else, but protecting yourself so your future and your own ideas can spread on and continue. If you will let your society change and be overrun how will you ensure that your ideas will persist to people have learned to oppose you.

The rest is your opinion and I don't care about it. Keep it to yourself.

>>40468335
Incredible, everything you said was wrong.

>>40467959 (OP)
>When in some time Europe and America becomes minority white
god let's hope it happens soon

>>40468249
This is just cope. Stop listenning to retards talking. Trump will be gone after 4 years. People hate you, but as a whole you are accepted enough by society. You can be in public, you can be called your name, people are shamed when they don't treat you the way you should be. The intolerant stories and shit you see on the internet is inconsequential to the fact you are treated as anyone else is. I'm no a nazi lol

>>40468368
>People hate you, but as a whole you are accepted enough by society.
lol lmao even

>>40468368
All you're saying is you're the centrist flavor of fascist with your head in the sand.

>>40468248
stop frequenting christians then bro wdyd? I understand your struggles, I know trans rights still has a way to go, but it has gone much further in our society then anywhere else. Not everyone is gonna accept you, but as a whole, most people do even if you hide your eyes from it.

>>40468344
explain why I am. You gave an argument, I have responded to it. Explain to me why I am wrong.

>>40468400
actual brainless fucking retard jesus fucking christ. oh my god how stupid could i have beeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn holy shit that transphobia i experience oh my god it isnt real wow thank you mr cis man who knows my life you are so smart and know everything and know what its like for us so much better than us

you are actually so fucking stupid it makes me sick i hate people like you so fucking much white moderate piece of human filth

>>40468056
why do you schizos all think John money was pro trans? he was one of you fucking nazi christcuck pedos. he was trying to prove trans people could be cured and made into straight people. he was trying to prove there is no inate sense of gender, but even after decades of torturing a child to act as one gender he failed because there is some innate aspect of gender.

>>40468361
Ok then, but don't think trans rights, lgbtq or whatever tribe of politics you are in will persist when society will fundementally change. Minorities learn to resent the role that europeans have done to their society. Not because they are evil, but because our schools teach us all that, we are taught to apologise. They are opposed to what you stand for even if you hate whites or whatever small inconsequential shit I say.

retarded post. polls show even people from most conservative countries tend to become more liberal after moving into west

>>40468381
Yes people hate you, people hate me, people hate them, everyone hates something. They're the minority.

besides, lgbt rights diminishing because "white become minority" would still take many generations. other factors have much more to do with lgbt rights on that timeperiod than immigration, like f.e. a lot of white people also being against lgbt

frogposter being an absolute fucking moron. nothing new here

>>40468425
that's not really an argument, you can focus on people disliking you. You're talking about how they're still are people who hate you, how they're political parties that are opposed to your rights, Trump in office and the far right gaining attention. These things will exist in the future, but for most people it's in the fringe, it's not an accurate portrayal of society you are focusing on a minority without realizing already what you have. What you have are people who love you and protect you and seek to give you the rights you claim.

Insulting me won't make me magically wrong. if you came to this thread it was to argue, do you concede?

>>40468439
I never said he was. he created the concept of gender. Your gender, being a state independent from biological sex. From his ideas came the ideas of transgenderism. Meaning your biological sex can be incompatible to your gender. Before he did his science the common term for people who regarded themselves as being another gender was "crossdresser".
>he tried to cure trans people to straight people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money Where does it say this? the controversial thing he did was to socialise a boy to have the other gender.

I'm not a nazi christcuck whatever you're saying.

>>40468496
you know i'm right kiddo.

>>40468465
that's inconsequential, there are definetly people that assimilate, I said the example of maybe some people you see in college or on discord from ethnic minorities. But they are inconsequential to the majority, the cheap labour, the ones in little India away from the weathy districts.

>>40467959 (OP)
>this board is diametrically opposed to shit on /pol/
go back

>>40468678
I don't use /pol/ I just compared this place to /pol/.

>>40468690
/pol/ is a psyop
/lgbt/ is an insane asylum
the internet isn't real
redditor

>>40468704
truke