Did your balls ever start working again after a while? Enough motile sperm to be virile?

Bump

I'm lurking and bicurious I don't have any answers sorry.

From what I've heard it can be difficult to retain to 'normal' after hormone treatments and surgery.

Hope you find what you're looking for.

>>40487692 (OP)
it takes months for sperm to mature

>>40487692 (OP)
why are detroonies so obsessed about spreading their trash genes? you know your overlords are going to zyklon b you?

>>40488110
so just wait a while then go gung ho on supplements and protocols?

>>40488141
>you know your overlords are going to zyklon b you?

Wtf is that?

>>40488141
My genes are actually really good

>>40487692 (OP)
You will never be able to have children ever again

>>40487692 (OP)
i took clomid and after a month i was blowing loads so hard i could chip paint off of drywall with them

>>40487692 (OP)
I don't understand actual detransers. How did you ever end up on hrt if you are actually just cis.
I detransed, but I still want to be a woman and couldn't care less about being virile as a man

>>40488585
>detransed
Why?
>doesn't understand someone might be in a different situation than you where virility might be important
How?
>>40488523
Doses and for how long and did you get a virility test?

>>40488585
well, you have to be ´´something´´, so it´s natural for people to try
and some people wanna be fertile regardless of gender
if you still wanna be a woman, why don´t you just manmode on hrt?

look up the powers detrans recovery guide where he tells you how to get fertile again

>>40487692 (OP)
Why does she read like a top?

>>40487692 (OP)
no hrt nuked my shit. still have ED and zero semen 3 years later

>>40488474
>trooned out
your genes are shit

>>40488703
what's your test? 3 years off hrt?

>>40488617
>>40488624
>Why?
>if you still wanna be a woman, why don´t you just manmode on hrt?
It all became too much for me, no matter how much I actually wanted it. My dysphoria is pretty mild compared to others, but still bad enough to impact my daily life, but not as much as the anxiety and paranoia related to being trans. My dysphoria will probably get worse with age, but at this very moment, my life is more stable not transitioning.

>How?
I've expressed myself poorly. There is no shame in getting transitioning only to find out it's not for you, nor do I think caring about virility is weird.
It's just hard for me to wrap my head around how one ends up transitioning only to end up finding out they were just cis all along. Probably also projecting on my side, since that's a huge anxiety for me

>>40488222
anon...........

>>40488617
>Doses
50mg
>and for how long
i just took it for a month. doc said she'd give it to me for a second month but i didn't see a point
>and did you get a virility test?
no but i did get T checked and it was like 950 ng/dl. free T was also absurdly high, like outside of the natural reference ranges.
HRT boobs disappeared too

>>40487692 (OP)
Idk if the sperm are there but downstairs looks like it's all back

>>40488795
your breast buds disappeared?? how?
you should get a fertility test

>>40488795
also did your balls unshrink and any ed go away
>>40488803
same question for you ^

>>40488835
>your breast buds disappeared?? how?
clomid is a SERM. all SERMs cause boob atrophy.
>you should get a fertility test
nah i'm not tryna have any kids i'm gay anyway
>>40488848
>also did your balls unshrink and any ed go away
idk i wasn't really monitoring my ball size, and i never had ED in spite of T being nuked for years

>>40489074
did you have vision problems on clomid?
how long were you on hrt and what forms like AAs and pills or monotherapy and how long did you quit before taking clomid and how long after you quit or started taking clomid did everything go back to normal?
>boob atrophy
it killed the breast buds?

>>40487692 (OP)
Current data seems to indicate that, in AMABs, fertility can be restored with discontinuation of HRT in most if not all cases.

>>40489146
QRD? I've read a criticism that a lot of the rebound of fertility in AMAB mtfs is due to hondosing and things get much harder if you're properly dosed or do monotherapy

I only took Vitamin D3, Omega 3, Zinc, Protein, Creatine, and started lifting again. Now I don’t have ED and was shooting ropes within 2 months.

Why did I trans? Undiagnosed BPD, trauma, grief, drug use, and informed consent. It all made sense once I saw a psych and then spent 3 years in therapy. Gatekeeping would’ve prevented this. I’m also completely sober now.

>>40489127
>did you have vision problems on clomid?
no i think that's more associated with tamoxifen
>how long were you on hrt and what forms
3 years, started with spiro + sublingual estradiol tablets for bout a year before switching to weekly EV injections + prog in the ass
>how long did you quit before taking clomid
like 3 months i think? my T was at 80 ng/dl right before i started clomid so i know the T increase was from the pills and not just time
>and how long after you quit or started taking clomid did everything go back to normal?
literally just the one month i was on it was enough, although it took like 2 years to look 100% as masculine as i did pre-hrt
>it killed the breast buds?
it just makes the tissue shrink, in my case to the point of being unnoticeable.

>>40488848
yeah

>>40489218
i've seen some people report vision problems from clomid.. anyways i'm not really sure how i'd get it because my dr sucks. I've been on it twice as long as you and injections for 4 years or so so not sure how well my chances are here. any idea why clomid alone was enough? I heard most people need HCG or HMG with it
>it just makes the tissue shrink, in my case to the point of being unnoticeable.
sorry to ask but do you have before and afters you'd be willing to share? how big were they before you quit?
>>40489248
your balls regained the volume they lost? what about fertility?
and how long were you on hrt, what form and what did you do after stopping? clomid or just time off? how long did it take?

>>40489154
One of the most reliable studies available (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36652919/) indicates that spermatogenesis can be restored within ~3 months off HRT. It does not seem that HRT causes permanent infertility in AMAB individuals.
Banking sperm before HRT is advisable just in case, however.

>>40489322
Doesn't it greatly depend on if the balls shrink or not?
Before HRTgen died there was also someone posting about how estradiol directly messed up the leydegg or seritoli cells
Idk I'm not expert and I doubt any of us are it just seems complicated. I hope it's that simple but idk.

>>40489321
>anyways i'm not really sure how i'd get it because my dr sucks
if you can't get it prescribed just buy it from a roid vendor
steroidsourcetalk dot cc
and i'm not posting pics but they were very small to begin with, so if you have big boobs don't expect them to totally go away like they did for me

>>40489384
Were they A cup or less?
>roid vendor
I don't know how to find one but i'll check that out.. thx

>>40489415
yeah A cup
and i literally posted the website to find a vendor..

>>40489504
Yeah I'm looking at it.
One more question that IDR if you answered or not but did you get on clomid immediately after stopping or did you stop hrt for a few weeks/months then do clomid? I've seen some anecdotes where people say you need to stop at least 90 days but they never mention if they immediately get on clomid or only til 90 days of quitting first

>>40487692 (OP)
bump

>>40489177
sounds like LARP but if you are serious abt the gatekeeping part, you're terminally fembrained, despite "shooting ropes"

>>40488711
trooning out is less to do with "genes" and more to do with social conditioning

>>40489321
am only going to answer this comment. going to bed.
>yep
>see >>40488803
>2 years
>injections
>nothing. just cold turkey
>time off
>like a month started to go back to normal i think. was very quick. then a couple weeks after to fully recover

>>40490700
in case you come back tomorrow, did you start having white loads after a month? a month of no hrt for me still had me shooting precum blanks

>>40488141
We need more pretty girly boys in the world c:
And isn't having children part of being a mother? Why are trannies so obsessed with killing their sperm?

>>40488523
now I wanna detroon just to see how big of a load I can shoot

>>40490819
trve!! and there are big plappable pooners out there whose vulvas are just begging for big hot tranny loads to squelch past the pooner's cervix to help him turn into a mommy

I've been on e monotherapy for about six weeks and I've decided to stop just at least for now. How long before my t levels return to normal?

>>40491005
A month or so made my t rise to around 200

I checked at 3 months off HRT and had no sperm at all, and again at 6 years off and have motile sperm according to a test I bought on amazon, going to try banking soon. I was on HRT for 1.5 years. (also: my breasts went from A cup to basically invisible, I just look slightly flabby on my chest now). Im probably going to get back on HRT and try manmoding, detrans did not work great for me, but good luck to you!

>>40491639
>Im probably going to get back on HRT and try manmoding, detrans did not work great for me, but good luck to you!

Stacy-level energy to be able to admit this, believe in you!

>>40491320
so basically I have a month before my levels go back to normal and then I can decide if I wanna get back on estrogen or not?

>>40491639
Did you do anything to get rid of your tits or restore fertility? what's your sperm count

>>40491713
Nah depends on the person but for me I didn't redose for like 2 months one time and nothing changed but add in consistently being a month late over a year and I have armpit hair and stinkier pits now

>>40491639
>>40490700
>>40488803
>>40488795
Did your guys ED go away completely or do you still have some?

>>40491744
I did nothing, just waited. The test I took (YO kit off amazon) says I am in "moderate range - >6 million motile sperm per mL"

>>40491776
Never had ED sorry

>>40487692 (OP)
It's been eight months. Producing more seminal fluid now. I'm not shooting ropes or anything but there seems to be some genetical material in the semen. I should be able to get someone pregnant hopefully the natural way, definitely with IVF worst case scenario. There's hope.

Also, libido has been returning and continuing to increase 8 months off estrogen. I still don't get as hard as I did pre-transition, but I can probably have a normal sex life in the future. T levels returned to normal 3 months off estrogen with Clomid. Not taking any medications now though.

>>40492083
why do you want to get someone pregnant?

>>40491813
I wonder how accurate those are. I don't think they tell you the quality of the sperm

>>40492083
How long were you on clomid and did you take it as soon as you quit estrogen? How long were you on hrt and what form?

>>40491813
>>40492083
have your balls regained any lost volume? to both of u

>>40490700
>>40488523
>>40488703
>>40488795
>>40492083
>>40491813
Are your faces still feminine now?

have any of you had hairloss since stopping?

>>40490964
i call my ftm mommy......

>>40492173
no lol

>>40492111
is hot

>>40492639
No leftover femininity at all?

>>40492803
i continued to look a little uncanny for about 2 years but after that nah, VERY masc.

>>40492847
beard and everything or just face hollowing out from fat redistribution going back? hows the hairline?

>>40492871
i'm a walking ball of hair. no hair loss on head, can grow a full beard, coated in body hair.

Man these mtftms sound hot

>>40490819
cis women don't want to be mothers
demography is literally dying because if 10% of cis women being infertile and more of them taking contraception and refusing to have a child even if they could

>>40492880
Sorry I don't know which anon you are but did your balls grow volume back if they shrunk from hrt? Any leftover ED or infertility?

>>40493118
women are retarded that's why men make better women than women, even when they decide to become men again

>>40493142
that's why it is men who let themselves be exploited into serious illness and death in physical jobs and used as cannon fodder in wars that only result in changing the corrupt ruling class and are absolutely desperate for the slightest female affection?

>>40493161
never said men arent dumb just that women are dumber and their voting patterns favoring spending, debt and negroes show it

>>40487692 (OP)
>Did your balls ever start working again after a while? Enough motile sperm to be virile?
why are you worried about motile sperm anon

>>40493500
why is that bitch missing half of her shins

>>40493552
because kanye grew her in a lab

>>40487692 (OP)
Yea, takes about 2 months for full function it seems. Being able to get fully hard and make some small amount of cum took 3 weeks.

>>40493216
>women are dumber and their voting patterns favoring spending
thanks for proving men are the ones dumber here.
democrats create less deficit than republicans. even trump used to praise democrats for economy before he decided it's time to prey on retards. you just swallow republican propaganda without any criticism even though all the statistics show a completely different reality. have fun living in a country that shifts the burden of taxes from the extremely rich to the poor and where the middle class rapidly vanishes, because apparently the policies that made americans rich in the past century are now "communist", where the biggest welfare queen ever, elon musk, shames the poor for daring to want healthcare as he robs the taxpayers in government subsidies for his business that wouldn't survive otherwise. men are so fucking smart!

>>40493589
didnt read that, dumb self hating fag

>>40493614
yeah, go back to watching tiktoks, reading is too hard.

>>40493635
reading drivel from a goddess worship complex faggot is hard yea bro

>>40487692 (OP)
bump

>>40490343
How is it fembrained to suggest that people with trauma and undiagnosed mental illness shouldn’t be given free access to cross-sex hormones? Absolutely not a LARP.

>>40492147
Yeah they're fully back to normal

>>40492173
None whatsoever :(

>>40492453
Yeah normal male hairline changes, once I realized it I got on fin.

>>40494170
>people with trauma and undiagnosed mental illness shouldn’t be given free access to alcohol, cigarettes, student loans, and military recruiters
Why is it always hormones that need to be gatekept and not the billion other ways we can harm ourselves freely?
I needed to troon but I didn't so I self-destructed with two of those things instead. Gatekeeping would have prevented this.
Sure if you're 14 you should definitely be gatekept. But eventually you're responsible for yourself.
Sorry mental healthcare is shit.

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>>40495107
>Why is it always hormones that need to be gatekept and not the billion other ways we can harm ourselves freely?
Normies are retarded.
Anyone taking control over their health is a terrifying prospect to them.

>>40493642
the only "person" worshipping here is you. you will get fucked over like never before, you will regret it unbearably as you die and it's too late and it will be fully deserved.

Bump

>>40495090
Hairline recession? DHT not in check?

>>40497723
rump

>>40490612
retard
see you again in a year

>>40498486
post rump chud

>>40487692 (OP)
Bump

>>40499781
Just start a detrans general already

>>40500446
it always gets flooded by tankies

>>40491776
think away completely.
>>40492173
no

>>40502439
did your face completely revert or is there still some leftover feminization
I wonder if laser is still possible on test

not a detrooner but I got off hrt for a year due to health concerns. Yes they start working normally again after ~6-8 months

>>40503095
Are you virile? What health concerns and what hrt were you on? Did your nuts regrow the lost volume?

>>40503214
>Are you virile?
Idk what you mean by this. Idk if I could impregnate anyone but my cum turned thick and white and I was very horny in a male way if that's what you were asking.

> What HRT were you on?
Mono-E injections + 200mg prog

>Did your nuts regrow the lost volume?
Yes

>What health concerns
Bradycardia. Doctors were concerned that HRT was causing something in my thyroid, so I got off of it till we were 100% It turned out to be an issue with my stomach, and HRT wasn't affecting it, so it was safe for me to get back on it.

>>40503583
Like if you could impregnate someone yeah
8 months doing nothing no clomid? interesting, how many years on mono?

>>40503702
2 years.

>>40503968
How much progress did a year off undo?

>>40502583
there were like no face changes anyway so just reverted

>>40505092
nta but what was the timeline for changes from e to fully revert?

>>40505268
Like 1 month skin slowly gets more oily and takes like 2 more months to fully revert. Like 1.5 months or so downstairs started working again, and a few more weeks using it, seems to be mostly all there but it kinda felt painful stretching when coming back. Think morning wood came back after like 2 months. And then chest slowly deflated over many months but nips are still little bigger will probably never change, but I had gyno before and chest didn't really grow very much at all over 2 years so its not that bad. Still need to lose fat but distribution slowly going back its taking a long time.