if men can identify as lesbians, and women as gay men, then gay and lesbian are meaningless terms since anyone can be one if it feels right to them

>>40489860 (OP)
I think so
a lot of gynephilic ones are just blatantly porn addicted straight men but theres gotta be a few genuine lesbians there

>>40489881
straight men don't exist

>>40489860 (OP)
trans women can be anything they want to be as only trans people have sentience

>>40489881
how do you determine which one a transbian is?

>>40489881
Me
>>40489990
I know zero cis lesbians whose public social media is wall to wall coom. So probably that.

>>40490053
>have a life
>don't be horny on main
this is literally it
also most people aren't horny on public social media wtf

>>40489860 (OP)
idk bi women like to say so when they hit on me

>>40489860 (OP)
most trans lesbians are into guys but are too ashamed about it to admit it due to society teaching them that liking men if you're born male is one of the worst things ever

>>40490100
I'm a trans lesbian who's technically only ever slept with men
One transitioned after we broke up
One was an experiment
One was my rapist

>>40489860 (OP)
Sure.
>t.cis lesbian

Why not?
>inb4 fetishism
cis dykes are freaks too
>inb4 transbians are men
so are straight trannies but we still call them straight trannies

>>40490349
men can't be lesbians tho :/

>>40489860 (OP)
No, since they're transwomen, not women.

>>40491846
>men can't be lesbians tho :/
wrong

>>40490309
>t.cis lesbian

>>40491931
actually he looks like the trans version of that guy's steinfeld pfp

>>40491918
>wrong!!
More like... prove yourself right, lmao

>>40489860 (OP)
Yes, but if I say this cis women would just get angry at me because they're cis.

Labels don't mean shit to me though.

>>40489860 (OP)
>can women be lesbians
why even ask this

>>40492334
>transbians
>women

>>40492423
yeah? what are you trying to imply here?

watch me argue with my ex and tell me we're not lesbians

>>40491954
Hauuntnteeed moouuuuund

>>40489860 (OP)
Yes, but transbians are at the bottom of the pecking order.

>>40489860 (OP)
No

Random thought but I remember being young and watching Teaching Mrs. Tingle a million fucking years ago and the line from that film; "Man has sex change to become lesbian" got burned into my mind and it only burns brighter the more modern the era gets.

>>40489860 (OP)
Yeah

the fact that like 90% of transwomen identify as lesbian really does make the whole transgenderism look like a joke

t4t lesbians are just feminine gay men
t4f lesbians are porn addict agp rapehons

>>40493052
that was a good movie

>>40493074
but like, that's not true at all
20% at most of men who larp as women claim to only like women
80% say they like men partially or exclusively

>>40493074
>cis people, especially cis men are, as a pattern, entirely dismissive and misunderstanding of dysphoria and often fetishize trans traits
>cis lesbians largely chase trans women for one time flings to get girldick, or if they date one they lose all interest once srs comes up even if the reason is to alleviate dysphoria
>trans people not only understand our plight, but relate to it on a deep personal level that leads to a lot of deep connections forming very easily
>trans people of the same gender often times have experienced the same traumas, which lends even further to forming connections based on relatability
>trans woman tops know what makes trans woman bottoms tick
gee i wonder why a majority of us are t4t lesbians or bisexuals when these are the facts
how about cisoids become worthwhile human beings to date and interact with and those stats will change in your favor
"oh but im one of the good ones" sybau pickme nobody asked good for you but when you're the only good apple out of a rotten bunch you kinda still reek of shit by proximity

>>40493157
anon is likely referring to a 2015 survey where something like 15% of trans women identified as heterosexual and a combined 70% were lesbians and bisexuals, remainder were ace or something else

>>40489990
A quick vibe check by a vibe connoisor

>>40489874
But trans women are women.

>>40493211
b-b-but t-trans w-women are women

>>40493222
I speak like this

>>40493222
Here's a lesbian and her trans lesbian gf who were beaten by lesbiphobes in Florida who shouted they just needed some dick.

Trans women are women. Trans lesbians are lesbians.

>>40489881
"Porn addiction" doesn't exist. Stop the nonsense. No one is "addicted" to looking at naked pictures. That's absurd. And it certainly has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

>>40493179
>where something like 15% of trans women identified as heterosexual and a combined 70% were lesbians and bisexuals
you've never ever read the survey
70% did NOT say they were lesbian or bisexual and ALSO bisexual means you LIKE MEN which is totally unusual for amabs!!!!

your claim is specifically that a majority or more of trans women are LESBIANS - i.e. ONLY like women - and that's not fucking true at all

>>40490053
>I know zero cis lesbians whose public social media is wall to wall coom
Well I know several. What now, asshole? Why don't you stick a broom up your ass, prude?

>>40493074
You just made that shit up. Hey, let's assume it's even true. Look at pic related. ALMOST 70 PERCENT of women have implicit attraction to other women.

>>40491931

>>40493366
trans women are much more androphilic than cis women are

>>40489860 (OP)
yeah but it doesnt work. most trannies are bottoms and mentally ill. That's why I date men.

>>40493355
my figures were a bit wrong i apologise
i think "being lesbian" is about being attracted to women as a woman at all period, not that its exclusively so, but thats getting into semantics and i have better things to do than a semantics argument on 4chan

>>40493348
Huge cope

>>40492682
HAAAUUUGGGHHHHH

>>40493379
when lesbians say they support trannies they mean that they want to fuck pooners. they don't mean that they see transbians as part of their identity.

>>40489860 (OP)
Of course not retard
Lesbians are females(women) who are exclusively acttracted to other females.
Males can never be females thus men can never lesbians.

>>40493211
trans women are men pretending to be women to get rid of homosexuals from society

>>40493391
>i think "being lesbian" is about being attracted to women as a woman at all period
honey bi men are not seen as primarily gynephilic

>>40493487
Trans women are women. You can't argue. Trans women are women that's it.

>>40493438
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-024-00395-0
"The largest consumers of pornography featuring trans women are heterosexual cisgender men. In contrast, with regard to porn featuring trans men as protagonists, the largest consumers are cisgender women and gay men [58]."

Lesbians are more similar sexually to heterosexual men than to bisexual or heterosexual women so logically the same would follow.

>>40489860 (OP)
Yes, but only if they are genuinely trans and see themselves as genuine women. If not, if just boymoders, then they're disgusting rapists.

>>40489919
yep, saving this one for later

>>40489860 (OP)
yes

me and my wife <3

>>40491931
>Accused of being a transbian larping
I'm on this board because I'm a repooner nonnie, but I'm still a cis lesbian.

>>40494151
two dicks are involved =/= lesbian

>>40494210
This thread is nothing but dicks flopping on keyboards arguing about what is a lesbian