Would gender transition have saved him?
He wears womens short shorts to show off his trim hairless legs - which he had lasered so no terminal hairs will grow again.

>>40495067 (OP)
theres a fag like this in every city, flamboyant gay men aren't women, save him from what? He will be looking exactly like that doing exactly that for the next 30 years mogging you

>>40495082
>flamboyant gay men aren't women
you are breaking the heart of every hsts here

>>40495082
anon i have never seen a faggot lasering their entire body before, and trust me i have seen a lot of flamers

>>40495092
lol no hsts know they aren't women it's agps who are delusional

>>40495109
>lol no hsts know they aren't women
hsts are the most likely of anyone here to claim to pass

>>40495142
well yeah hsts don't transition unless they pass. this is blanchard 101, literally in the definition

>>40495172
>well yeah hsts don't transition unless they pass

>>40495109
false. both believe they are women.
>>40495172
also false.

>>40495188
>>40495205
you are arguing with blanchard not me there is a reason he is considered a hack lol

>>40495241
blanchard is right tho trannies transition for sexual reasons that differ based on their orientation

>>40495246
there are asexual trannies though

>>40495261
asexuality is a big fuckin' scam

>>40495273
yeah
but low sex drive is cute and they won't cheat

>>40495296
they still know which sex they prefer intimately, the idea that they have no idea if they like men or women more is bullshit
and the low sex drive is the result of trauma

>>40495326
yeah or unbalanced hormones
but still i think there can be other motivations for transition than just sex

>>40495349
humans are built to seek sex and companionship
hsts are rejected by heteronormative partners as gay men
agps are rejected by opposite sex homonormative partners as straight identifying bisexual men

>>40495361
>humans are built to seek sex and companionship
true
>hsts are rejected by heteronormative partners as gay men
you mean straight cis men see hsts trans women as gay men?
>agps are rejected by opposite sex homonormative partners as straight identifying bisexual men
idk how to parse this

>>40495414
>you mean straight cis men see hsts trans women as gay men?
it depends
1) there's no straight men there's bisexual men who ACT heteronormatively
2) HSTS is about establishing plausible deniability that men who want to fuck you could be into you being feminine or be tricked into thinking you weren't just a gay man
I think it's really about making a visible effort rather than the illusion being wholly convincing

>idk how to parse this
agps wanna rape lesbians, who reject them for being men, so they transition to pressure lesbians into fucking bi guys

>>40495430
yeah ur not right about this

>>40495449
because admitting I am right would blow up your whole worldview

>>40495449
no they're onto something
>2) HSTS is about establishing plausible deniability that men who want to fuck you could be into you being feminine or be tricked into thinking you weren't just a gay man
>I think it's really about making a visible effort rather than the illusion being wholly convincing
there's truth to this
>agps wanna rape lesbians, who reject them for being men, so they transition to pressure lesbians into fucking bi guys
this is shakier. rape is a strong word and you are saying men can't be 100% straight but women can be 100% gay. that's a harder argument to make

>>40495430
bisexual men are extremely rare, most of "bisexual men" are larpers which ruined scientific studies (arousal patterns measured didn't match the claims) until they set strong criteria
bisexuality is a domain of women, there are no heterosexual women
you show a complete lack of understanding of AGP and HSTS. this is a complete word salad of yours.

>>40495600
95% of men are bisexual
5% of men are gay
(ditto for women)

>>40495480
>rape is a strong word
the existence of trannies implies that gays can be happy repressing and being with the opposite birth sex - when you are trying to pressure gay people into lifelong sexual repression - I think strong words are ok in response

>>40495605
am i gay or bisexual if i only like women aesthetically and don't like sex with them except for abstract reasons (making them happy, fitting in with comphet society, etc)

>>40495605
objective methods of measuring arousal show that most men declaring themselves as bisexual are not bisexual
the opposite happens with women where the ones declaring to be heterosexual are bisexual

>>40495620
r u amab r afab

>>40495626
amab

>>40495625
there are no objective methods of measuring arousal and you implying there are makes you look foolish and uneducated
phallometry is legendarily inaccurate

>>40495637
>legendarily
i'm stealing this usage lol

>>40495636
why do you feel the need to justify liking women?

>>40495613
how does the existence of trannies imply that? confused

>>40495637
there are
>We used fMRI to investigate neural correlates of responses to erotic pictures and videos
most "bisexual" men are simply incels angry at women. you're one of such specimens, constantly shitting up the board seething at trannies and deluded erasure of faggots

>>40495665
>the existence of
you aren't real
byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee forever
crossdresser

>how does the existence of trannies imply that? confused
because you are saying a lesbian can be happy dating a man in a dress if he chemically castrates himself he becomes functionally and socially equivalent to a lesbian
transgenderism is a house of cards built on lies

>>40495637
>show pornographic content
>check for boner
It's that easy

>>40495716
most porn isn't arousing at all
porn taste varies widely

>>40495681
the existence of """lesbianism""" says that raped women wanting to avoid their duty to society can become bloated fake-manly feminazis who beat women and convert them into their lifestyle

>>40495655
all my attempts to make it work with them have ended in the same cycle of trauma and idk if the trauma is because i'm gay or if i'm gay because of the trauma but calling myself gay feels like giving up. i'm clinging to a kino-feeling ideal that doesn't seem to exist or be possible to reify. maybe my attraction to women is so idealistic that it makes them feel pressured to be something they're not and they prefer someone who just wants to have sex with them like an animal. i also get turned off when they debase themselves in ways that straight guys like, like madonna-whore complex.

>>40495743
yeah ur gay buddy, i know what ur going through. this is not what love or sex or attraction is supposed to feel like.

>>40495752
welp thanks. i guess all my efforts were just a comphet meme

>>40495795
i wouldn't call it giving up, more giving in btw. stuff's gonna get better.

>>40495067 (OP)
he's got nice legs with an unfortunate chud face

>>40495846
yeah exactly
instead of thinking of it as reframing it's more like i never would have put myself through all that to begin with if not for homophobia. so it's not reframing from giving up, it's deconstructing all the mental gymnastics.
i learned that the heart has its own brain and feelings and the brain in the head can even build defenses around the feelings from the heart and vagus nerve. but it's one directional so the heart's feelings just remain trapped. that's why reppers give in during "weakness" when the mental defenses come crashing down

>>40496083
yes, that is a good way to put it. the near future might be a bit confusing because you're still pruning your prior experiences from the trauma they caused you.
if you're anything like me, it will go quickly though, soon you'll wake up and be happy that you're gay. homophobia is a bitch.

>>40496190
i hope so, it seems like people who didn't even used to be homophobic before are now because we're the trendy scapegoat

>>40496349
youre not the trendy scapegoat right now, trannies are

>>40495067 (OP)
This guy hangs and frames nudes of himself in his living room and constantly posts himself all over for years
He's not a tranny he's just a gay narcissist

>>40496367
how do u know that??

>>40495067 (OP)
I'm a bottom but suddenly I have the urge to fuck his pussy relentlessly because of how flamboyant he looks.

>>40495743
I absolutely relate to idealistic attraction and debasing themselves part.
Also this hurts >>40495752
I am a too old virgin gynephilic transwoman

>>40495067 (OP)
>Would gender transition have saved him?
Of course not. No more than it saved any other member of the 41%. The fundamental issue is that we have way too many people on this planet that we don't need - its not that there isn't enough food or enough space, its that they are simply not required by the hierarchies that we've established and so largely go un-noticed or casually abused, because society judges value by the skills and goods that people are needed for, and those people aren't needed.

Changing your gender doesn't suddenly make you more needed any more than changing your country, your ideals or your religion makes you needed. The only thing that fixes that is making yourself better at some transactional thing or another than the millions of other people who are also not needed.

>>40495067 (OP)
is he a cyclist?

>>40499489
you only like women?
i would probably be a virgin if i didn't go to college, i have helicopter parents and older siblings and they're all homophobic and intrusive in my space. i actually tried to be a straight man in college so i hooked up with women, but i needed drugs to do it both mentally and physically and i was dissociated. i hooked up with a guy who i didnt need drugs with so that was a wake up call but i still tried to cling to some hope that i could fall in love with a woman based on the ideal but it was always the same pattern of being incompatible and getting called gay and emasculation trauma. i have a big sunk cost fallacy too because ive had to reject so many men:s

>>40499642
this is true and it's disgusting and doesn't have to be this way

>>40501966
Falling in love was a curse for me, it was an idealistic projection, transferance, limerance. I thought that she *sees me*, but she didnt. I was/am stuck chasing that feeling everafter. There were 2 times where i thought i was close to it with 2 persons over dating sites, but it was a mirage and captain save a hoefeeling on my part. I have a type and they are sad and melancholic, after my attention they flip their furs and become angry and hateful.
I had mere bottom thoughts prior to taking E. Hopefully prog can change that. There were like 3 cases where i would say maybe to a specific man, and like 3 cases with women where i had those warm feelings where i thought they were good enough and i would see having children with them. This is all very brief. Relate somewhat to helicopter parents.

>>40500332
binge and purge cyclist maybe
no cyclist has twig thighs like that

>>40503502
sounds unfortunate i hope you meet someone soon!