I hear sometimes, for androphilic trans women (like obvious ones, ones who were flamers before transitioning), that your friends and family asked why you couldn't just be gay instead of being trans when you came out as trans.
Now, I know gender dysphoria is real and can't be tamed without hormones, but just hypothetically, if somehoe you could have just been gay, do you think the people who told you to be gay instead of trans actually would have fully accepted you as gay if you hadn't become trans at that point?

My dad knew i was gay and was chill about it, now he is wondering why I wanna be a tranny because I was always masculine and now I am wondering the same thing, but he is somewhat accepting of the idea.

The people who call us "just gay men" usually don't like gays either in my experience, they just bring it up to make trannies feel like shit.

>>40504976
When did you realize you weren't gay?

I'm an agp tranny and they still asked me that

>>40504988
are you really feminine for an AGP?

>>40504981
I found trannies on the internet and liked their stuff, but I was very good at not thinking of myself as one despite literally having to manually put myself in a male body when imagining myself doing stuff (I was like 14-15). Later, I tried crossdressing to put on a show for the boyfriend and innocently wandered back into tranny spaces looking for advice to look better and I kinda lost my shit.

>>40504993
Not really. I guess I am quite feminine looking but hrt did that

>>40504992
why do you think she need to be feminine for AGP?

>>40505002
>>40504992
Meant to say to u

>>40505002
How old are you and when you started hrt?

>>40504962 (OP)
>if somehoe you could have just been gay, do you think the people who told you to be gay instead of trans actually would have fully accepted you as gay if you hadn't become trans at that point?
Absolutely not lmao. My parents only started being ok with me being gay when I told them I was a tranny because being gay was less bad

>>40505006
I'm 24 I started at 18

>>40505011
lucky

>>40505011
hrt should transformed your body more i guess

>>40505016
lucky if she started hrt at 14, 18 is a little late
I've been started my transition at 19

>>40505010
So if you had actually gone gay at that point, they wouldn't have truly been ok with you dating other men?

>>40505038
what planet are you on, when I was 14 I wasn't telling no one about my thoughts because I thought they would strap me to a table and cut my nuts off so I would 41%

>>40505038
Im fine. I have wide hips and decent boobs. I have a boyfriend too. My life is okay mostly.

>>40505038
I had already mostly gone through male puberty by age 14.

>>40504962 (OP)
no, they wouldn't, they were already mad at me for having long hair during school like a "faggot" (yes, that was actually the reason they gave). i doubt they'd let me have it if i didn't have hearing aids to hide behind long hair.

>>40505156
I wonder if the genes that cause homosexuality may actually (sometimes) also cause other proximate issues in sensory regulation - that is sleep, hearing, speech, or seeing disturbances.

>>40505156
Oh I love that one. Do they make mock and get angry with you for 'talking like a faggot' too?