I'm FTM and my gf is MTF. I'm a repper bc I'm 4'11", and I feel like presenting as a man being that short would be hell. So I just tomboymode.
I didn't mind because my trans gf always let me feel like a guy when we were together, but lately she's been protective since I started working nights and it makes me feel like she doesn't actually see me as a guy and she's just humoring me.
I tried to talk to her about it and she's all "gender neutrally, I'd worry about anybody who's small getting bothered and being real you're tiny" and it fucked me up. I've just been coasting on auto pilot the past week and everything feels pointless now.

I want her to respect my manhood, how can I show her that I can take care of myself?

Make her feel like a woman then

>>40565496 (OP)
You can't, be a good cuck and introduce her to me
t. Chaser

>>40565547
I do! I do literally everything I can. I make her cum twice a week. What else am I supposed to be doing?
>>40565549
Fuck off.

>>40565496 (OP)
He doesn't see you as man. He's humouring you because that's what men do. He won't ever respect "your manhood" see you as man of even respect you as human being. Break up, you can do better.
>T. 5'1 Repper

>>40565496 (OP)
If there is real danger associated with this job:
Get swole
Learn to fight
Carry a weapon

If there is not real danger involved in this job:
Take solace in the fact that women have irrational worries they project onto their boyfriends. Women cannot afford to lose their provider figure, so their impulse to prevent harm is amplified.

>>40565590
>I make her cum twice a week. What else am I supposed to be doing?
kek
>>40565496 (OP)
idk anon id need to know more about your relationship, how does she make you feel like a guy? how has she been protective? its shitty that she said you're tiny but it's not abnormal to worry about your bf like that, i have a cis bf and i make him share his location and get worried sometimes about his safety when he works super late.
you could also start lifting and show her that youre stronger than her, might not entirely alleviate her worries but it couldn't hurt
also what >>40565670 said about carrying a weapon.

>>40565645
>you can do better
>4'11"

>>40565496 (OP)
how tall is your girlfriend

>>40565737
There are alot of women out there who would respect you more than him.

>>40565496 (OP)
>I want her to respect my manhood, how can I show her that I can take care of myself?
rape her and use a knife to threat hear while raping,
it will show whos the real man

>>40565590
Is making her cum all you do to make her feel like a woman?

>>40565645
As if I'm taking advice from someone misgendering my gf
>>40565670
Job itself is safe it's just in a part of town everybody calls rough after dark but I've had no problems.
>>40565728
She doesn't often make me feel like a guy. I work out but I haven't bulked much despite it, and she's still stronger even though she doesn't work out. I pay for stuff when we go out, and I top when we're in bed, but like she doesn't validate my gender much beyond using my pronouns.
>>40565746
She's 5'9", she's like a model and I climb her like a tree.
>>40565773
We do rape play sometimes bc she's into it but I feel sort of gross after. Never tried anything with a knife but knowing her shed probably love it.
>>40565861
No, I do other stuff. I call her my princess, I spoil her with flowers and try to take her out a few times a week. I jump to action whenever she gets freaked by a hug (I had to swat down a wasp nest a few days ago). I try to be her knight in shining armor as much as I can, and I try to make her feel treasured.

>>40565496 (OP)
can i eat you and your girlfriend

>>40566554
start taking T and work out for a few months and then pin her to a wall then she'll stop being worried about you working nights

Be more dominate

>>40566554
>She doesn't often make me feel like a guy.
what would you like her to do? you should communicate with her anon
you sound very cute and like a good bf

>>40566609
This

>"I can defend myself"
> Is 4'11" and on E

>>40566572
We can discuss bringing you into the hierarchy as the lowest member of the totem pole, subservient to her and the both of you to me.
>>40566627
How?
>>40566664
I've communicated it but idk. She always has a very logical reason for it, like "you're tiny of course I want to look out for you" or like, worrying when I hang out with guy friends. I just feel it so consciously that she doesn't see me as a man and it stings me to my core, and I know I should just accept it as a repper but I still like that in private, between me and her, I'm the man and I wish it was more than her pretending for my sake.

>>40565496 (OP)
it'd probablt help if you posted a picture. this isn't me being horny btw i hate vagina i just want better perspective before i try to give advice

>>40565496 (OP)
i dont think she means harm by this. im mtf and if i was dating a cis guy whos 4'11 id worry about him getting punted like a ball if he worked night shifts too
>>40566934
i mean im a misandrist myself whos been abused by men. if i was dating who isnt a cis guy id be wary of them being around cis guys too idk. you have to remember youre not on T and are 4'11. no offence but on the totem pole of strength on adults youre on the bottom. maybe start mircodosing T to see how it affects you and if that doesnt work start working out. actually also try working out if T works for you

>>40565496 (OP)
Sounds like you need to root out the weakness from your body

>>40565496 (OP)
You should kill him

cis women worry about their man being in a dangerous job even if he's built like Alan Ritchson. She should have worded it better than "you're small" but i wouldn't feel too bad about it if i were you.

I'm sorry but you're just not man enough for your twinkhon gf

>>40565645
It's trve
Us AMaBs have to indulge any delusions AFaBs have for a scant chance to plap their sweet, sweet cunts

>>40568406
shut the fuck up larper

i don't think it's impossible to pass as a 4'11 man but you're not going to be some big and strong chad stereotype, that's just not your role in life and you have to accept it. you'd probably have an easier time passing as an effete man or young boy anyways desu, tiny hypermasculine ftms tend to just read as butch lesbians.
im not saying you're not allowed to be masculine but your particular brand of masculinity is never going to be hulk hogan and yes people are going to be worried about you because yes you are small. either learn to enjoy it or learn to feel neutral about it. there's no solution.

>>40565496 (OP)
>repping because too much of a bitch to live life on hard mode to live your truth
>why doesnt she respect me waaah

>>40565496 (OP)
Men are very vulnerable to violence, its good that she cares enough about you to want you to stay safe in dangerous circumstances and people should be like that with men more

>>40565496 (OP)
Ever mtf I’ve been close to knee I was secretly a man before I did, but I have no idea why or what I said/did to make them think that. But you gotta be realistic about your height to some extent extent. I also work night and am short, but concealed carry.

Knew**

Sorry I grabbed a pack of beer after work and might be more drunk than I realized

>>40568698
you should get drunk and beat her anon

>>40569721
I’m not OP, but I only beat people consensually now.
t.>>40568675

>>40565496 (OP)
You need a cis man

>>40566554
Date a real woman.
>>40568406
Kys

>>40565496 (OP)
u gotta understand that they are women and just do not get being willing to kill someone. Most women assume any sort of conflict ends badly for them. The manliest thing u can do is be confident in urself even if she isn't. Only weak beta types need to prove themselves to other people. Get to a point where ud want someone to try something cus u are excited to fight. Keep a gun on u incase its life or death. But dont be so scared of conflict that u escalate things to try and feel powerful. Hold ur own but respect others. Weak people also tend to underestimate others as well. Anyone can be dangerous it is a choice

>>40565496 (OP)
Maybe she would see u as more manly if u didnt use tumblr .jpg in ur posts

>>40570062
Tumblr is some fem brained shit. I’m not gonna lie.

>>40568397
We had a fight last night about it. She got upset, she said I'm not even transitioning so I shouldn't try to act like I'm already a guy, and I just dissociated from there. She started apologizing immediately but just having it out there in the open that she definitely doesn't see me as a man is painful. We didn't talk this morning before she left for work so I'm supposed to be sleeping for my shift tonight but I'm just laying here in bed staring at the ceiling feeling empty.
>>40568411
What's the point anything? Fuck. I know I'm little and I'm repping since test can't change that but everybody's still going to see me the same if I try test? It's like I'm chugging down distilled hopelessness.
>>40569938
I'm not gay. I feel like I'm about to burst. I just want to be a traditional sort of manly guy and I've got nothing ahead of me but misery.
>>40570040
Guess I should get a gun. Do you have any recommends for something I could fit in my laptop bag or pocket? I don't really want people to see I have a gun.
>>40570062
>>40570079
Woman brained is worrying about that kind of dumb shit. If you like something just own it. I like Tumblr, it lets me look at fandom stuff and filter out the dumb bitching I'd see on other sites.

>>40566934
>We can discuss bringing you into the hierarchy as the lowest member of the totem pole, subservient to her and the both of you to me.
can you both eat me

>>40571484
Snub nosed revolver. Id get a .45 if u can hold onto it. Get a popular brand. S&w, colt, Taurus. guns are kinda expensive.

If ur reeeally strapped for cash i wouldnt get a cheap gun. Id probably go for a 1800s replica powder revolver. They are usually a lot better and more accurate then a modern pistol of the same price. That is if u dont mind the precautions powder necessitates. Its what felons use

>>40571484
>Woman brained is worrying about that kind of dumb shit
This is *kind of* true. This is what i thought for years while boymoding. Never got include in male activities though. From conversations with guy friends i realized this is because men actually do care a lot about what other people think. They just want u to think they dont. But if u really actually dont that will stick out.

>>40571574
What kinda stuff do you have to worry about with the powder ones? Would that be a problem to keep in a laptop bag? I'm worried they'll be pissed about me bringing a gun to work so I want to keep it hidden is the main concern.

>>40571574
>snub nose
>1800s replica powder revolver
worst gun advice ive ever heard in my fuckin life
get your ccw, get a modern semi auto micro compact like a hellcat or a p365 and put it in a phlster enigma and nobody will ever know you carry unless you go through a metal detector

>>40571605
Fine, less Tumblr then I guess. It doesn't matter, I'm repping so nothing matters.
>>40571670
That's specific enough I can run on it, thanks

>>40571606
If u get a snubbed nose then yes its small.
u would have to carry the loaded cylinder uncapped. The caps would need to go into a sturdy container cus they are explosive. When u want to shoot u cap it and slide the cylinder in. Its made to be pretty fast buts not nearly as fast as just keeping a gun in ur pants to flash at people. There is a chance the caps will explode if they get too much static discharge, crushed, or hot

>>40571670
U have no joy in ur soul. This was supposed to be advice for men

>>40571751
effectively defending yourself and your loved ones is gender neutral
and there is a meta

>>40571696
Listen lil pooner. No, not even a pooner - a repper who can't rightly call herself a man. Cowardice will see you nowhere in life. You say you want people to see you as a man but you can't even manage the courage to pursue the path ahead of you? Too scared to transition but too miserable to endure as you are. Dig deep and find that manhood inside yourself or give up and accept the way others feel the need to guard you.

>>40571484
>I'm repping since test can't change that but everybody's still going to see me the same if I try test? It's like I'm chugging down distilled hopelessness.
listen, it's not nice some of what she said to you, but you really should stop repping. does she ever try to convince u to start T?

>>40565496 (OP)
Man up lil poon

>>40565496 (OP)
Replies are a cesspool but have you talked to her about exactly what she's doing that makes you feel that way. "protective" is kinda vague, like not just asking her reasoning.

Otherwise you can't exactly show her, I mean go gym and get massive, but that won't address her underlying point.

>>40571484
i mean, i cant know whats in ur gfs head. but its possible she sees you as a guy, but realistically since u are a repper other people arent going to think that yet. id be worried abt my bf if he was a 4'11" repper who worked late in a dangerous area.
the solution is to stop repping and start T, im sorry man.

>>40573311
No, whenever I was doubtful and said I probably couldn't pass and transitioning would be hard for me she reinforced that. She said she wished I could be the man I meant to be, but like...I'm short. I don't have a frame that would work well for a guy. I kind of just accepted it. I don't think she meant to hurt me with it but I took it as the truth hurting sometimes.
>>40572616
You're right. I'll look into getting started on T. I figure my chances are slim but they're zero if I don't try.
>>40575642
It's hard to talk about it because she's always so reasonable about it and makes it sound like doing anything else would be bad.

>>40565496 (OP)
youre a lil retarded anon, being protective of ur partner is natural, specially if youre bigger physically...

go figure but with 4'11" you'll have to be used to being treated like that, doesnt matter if youre a man or a woman bro...

>>40577001
It wouldn't get to me as much if I hadn't been mistaken for being my gf's daughter a few times. It's just so demoralizing, it feels like there's no hope sometimes. I've booked an appt for HRT consultation tho so I am taking first steps in making everything better.

man poonfidence is crazy. mtfs will take hrt for years, get ffs, then still boymode and not expect anyone to see them as women. meanwhile you're 4'11 and haven't touched a drop of testosterone and you still expect your partner to see you as a guy. I'm honestly jealous of your capacity for entitlement and self-delusion.

>>40577811
Unironically this is why pooners often seems so female. The female socialisation makes them believe they'll be emotionally supported in making sub-optimal decisions, even though that's not something a cis guy would ever expect.

>>40577873
I think it probably has less to do with that and more to do with the fact that there isn't the same 24/7 barrage of hatred directed towards them. MtFs are constantly inundated with hate from /pol/ tourists, feminists, and mainstream media, and forced into constant self-awareness and self-deprecation, while FtMs aren't.

>>40577914
Men are punished for femininity, women are not punished for masculinity. Yes that is part of it, but it's more to do with intra-women dynamics. A man in the body of a 4'11 woman would never expect anyone to see him as a man.

>>40577985
natal men are punished for femminity and natal women are punished for masculinity

>>40578008
Not to anywhere near the same degree and you know it

>>40565496 (OP)
you should go on t. it sucks but even if she sees you as a guy she knows that you could potentially be in danger if you're that small and read as a cis woman. like im sorry

>>40565496 (OP)
This isnt even a trans issue. I have a cis male friend with a growth disorder who has the same problem. His solution was to lift and collect weapons. Idk that might work for you? At least you have the option of taking a hormone to help, jeez.

>>40576884
>I probably couldn't pass and transitioning would be hard for me she reinforced that
jfc ur gf sounds just like my ex..
funny how we’re the same height and ur dating an mtf like i usef to
if ur brown u can probably pass
if not u still probably can as long as u actually take care of urself and dont grow face pubes and lift.
its way easier to overcompensate as an ftm

>>40578101
Just wait until you get out into the real world. Mtfs surprisingly have more social value than ftms, for instance in an office.

>>40578113
they're both seen as subhuman by cissexuals in very different ways

>>40578131
But at least mtfs are seen as adults

>>40571484
Malebrained asf saying you'll never pass bcuz of height.
Femfaggot as fuck refusing to go on T because of it.

>>40578148
yeah i guess i wouldn't know im too scared of cissexuals to go outside except for uni

>>40578159
Nope, thinking your life's over because of a physical flaw is fem/gaybrained

>>40578183
R9k

>>40577811
I just felt like she would understand my dysphoria from empathy and would respect my feelings enough to try to help me with it with validation.
>>40578008
I was definitely punished for not being feminine enough as a kid. My parents freaked out like I was made of glass or something when they found out I had played football with some boys. I didn't get to hang out with those guys anymore and I had to take dance lessons as my "sport".

>>40578829
That's not how a woman validates her man, it's subtler than that

>>40578829
>I just felt like she would understand my dysphoria from empathy and would respect my feelings enough to try to help me with it with validation.
Can you imagine a hulking gigahon expecting people to pretend he was a woman because "validation" and "empathy"? If not, why do you expect things to be any different for you?

>>40578829
can you say specifically what you expect your girlfriend do to make you feel like a man? i want to know your actual expectations

>>40578829
Bro tall, attractive men only get a compliment about a single part of their appearance once in a blue moon. Why do you expect anything more than that without doing the bare minimum to pass?

>>40579081
I thought our relationship meant she would be more supportive than that, and she normally uses my pronouns and tries to respect my gender.

why do ftm reppers always ask their partners to refer to them as male despite not doing anything to transition but mtf reppers will bottle it up until they actually troon out?

>>40579920
because repping is femalebrained for ftms and malebrained for mtfs.

>>40579412
I'm sorry for being such an asshole. I'm glad you've found someone who accepts you as your gender, I shouldn't have taken out my bitterhon resentment on random internet strangers.

>>40569946
beCUM PLAPped

>>40577713
More like
everything worse

oh my transdood
your plappin days are thru

>>40565496 (OP)
introduce a bull.
And yes, of course she sees you as a woman if you are a repper. Even the most progressive people can't rewire their brain so that they see a nonhrt, nonpassing trans person as the gender they want to be, especially if you're 4'11.

>>40577914
Ftms are constantly inundated with hate from troons and moids.
Sometimes I'm so glad that I reppress imagine sharing community with retarded moids who hate you because you're afab.

>>40578148
Mtfs are seen as adults and their illness is taken seriously because they're males.

>>40579920
Literally it's just op doing this, everyone already refers to mtf reppers as women.

>>40581207
there are some that can but its rare.

>>40581227
most moids barely know that ftms exist. take your shots anon.

>>40565496 (OP)
>repper
>respect my "manhood"
Why are women so indecisive?

I was pretty excited, nervous but also excited, when I told her I was looking into starting T but she looked at me like I told her I was going to chainsaw my leg off.
She started telling me all kinds of stuff like how I would regret it bc I'm too short to pass.
I got mad and asked if she was just trying to keep me like this bc she's not into men and after a minute of staring at me she went "yeah" and told me she never liked guys and was just trying to be nice to me.
I left and turned off my phone for a while. I've just been walking across town for the last hour.

>>40582656
Lmfao if you were even surprised by that you have only yourself to blame

>>40582832
I'm not surprised, I'm just hurt. I'd hoped love and respect had let her see me as the man I feel like inside and I was disappointed to learn she never saw me as a man at all. I expected it was probably the case for a while, but having it confirmed is still crushing.
When I turned my phone back on to post I had like 30 missed calls and texts asking me to come home but I just kept walking. I don't even recognize where I am right now but I really don't care anymore.

>>40565496 (OP)

HRTrep & Lift, + she Definitely Does not see You As a Man. Just an UWU tboy At best. such Is The fate Of all Trans Men <5'5

>>40583056
Love and respect doesn't mean ignoring her perceived reality. I'm sorry but you were asking too much.

why is it so common for ftm reppers to date transbians and then poon out on them? its similar to when repping transbians date straight trannies and then troon out on them

>>40583292
Got chased by a dog after walking past a house out in the boonies. I half thought to just let the dog rip me up bc what's the fucking point but I guess I'm a wimp bc I ran instead.
I haven't answered her calls texts but I dropped my location in a text and she replied she's bringing the car to pick me up. Working up the nerve to break things off once she's here. I thought we had each other's backs but I guess I was the only one who felt that way.
Wish me luck

>>40582656
She's right. I think it's probably a phase for you and I think you'll do better without it.

>>40582656
I’m really sorry this happened to you, that’s really unfortunate and really selfish of your gf who really should be empathetic to stuff like this. I’m sorry.

>>40582656
>>40583056
>>40583451
this has to be a larp lol

>>40583451
I couldn't do it. It started pouring before she found me and when she got out and hugged me I couldn't do it. I just cried into her chest. She made me promise to never scare her like that again and then walked me to the passenger seat.
When we got home she started pulling my wet clothes off and somehow I ended up on my back getting fucked. She's asleep right now and I slipped out of her arms to find my phone and type this. Idk what to do anymore. I just wanted to be a man for her.
>>40583477
Kys

>>40585165
im crying dude this is not real. theres no way your girlfriend bitched you that hard lmao. how do you expect her to see you as a man if you let her fuck you lol

>>40582656
I'm sorry anon, that's pretty horrible of her. You should break up with her and take testosterone.

>>40582061
Decision means you make a choice and you can't blame someone or something else as easily

>>40585165
dude if this is real please please just fucking break up with her like figure out where you can go as soon as possible man this is too fucked up

>>40565496 (OP)
>4'11"
>manhood
Pick one.

>>40585453
this is true you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be seen as a man by someones whose penis is in your vagina and you need to know that if you're gonna exist as a trans man

>>40586496
>you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be seen as a man by someones whose penis is in your vagina
Never thought that this is what would be discussed in the far future of 2025 AD

>>40586496
POSSIBLE EXCEPTION TO ULTRAYOUNGSHITS WHO TRANSITIONED BEFORE BEING PUT IN SINGLE SEX MALE SPACES

>>40586535
lol if you think that youngshits are an exception.

>>40586503
ive watched too many people get hurt man

>>40586551
i think that ultrayoungshits could potentially escape that part of male socialization. im just not willing to dismiss the possibility yknow.

>>40586535
>>40586585
ultrayoungshits are usually worse male socialized because they don't feel the need to overcompensate their femininity or believe they dont have any male socialization to counteract

>>40585165
Why are you larping as me? Don't make me look like a bitch. I have never let her fuck my pussy, I always wear a strap on annd fuck her ass. Get outta here with that wimp shit.
>>40586237
We are broke up. I told her to get her stuff out of the apartment by Monday. She's acting like I'm being unreasonable but I'm standing my ground. I also told her I'm keeping our cat.
My D&D group is going to come help put her stuff outside if she hasn't gotten out by Monday.

>>40586840
good on you anon

>>40586864
It's hard bc I do still have feelings for her under all the betrayal and hurt and it's difficult not to just try to excuse how she's broken my trust but I'm trying to be a man about it. I'm sleeping on the couch and tonight for until she's moved out. She's trying really hard to talk me into forgiving her or going to bed with her tonight and I'm starting to feel like not throwing her out immediately was a mistake but I'm trying really hard to be good about this since I know she doesn't immediately have anywhere to go lined up and no money of her own.

>>40587129
you're doing the right thing by not kicking her out immediately i think. hang in there

>>40587129
kicking her out immediately with like 24 hours and no place she can go is extremely evil and therefore extremely malebrained congrats anon

>>40586840
oh thank god that post is fake bcuz i laffd a lil and felt bad

>>40578113
oh trust me i know
befriended an openly ftm guy and he’s. Obvious in the sense he has pubic facial hair.
>>40581792
incredibly rare
i like to think my bf is one of those ppl considering he’s nothing but supportive of me even tho im repping again
>>40582656
holy shit why r we like rhe same person
dont forcefem urself to appeal to her if by some chance u get back tg with her
please dont be like me with my ex it will only hurt u more
let me live vicariously thru u as another 4’11” repper
>>40583410
big chance she hid that she was a transbian
my ex switched up on me and said she was les after telling me she was bi
>>40586840
good for you
godspeed

>>40586840
>my d&d group is going to be my muscle in case my girlfriend doesn't leave

How can you do this kind of shit, and actually be mad at her for thinking you won't make it as a man? Just have some self awareness for five seconds.

>>40572616
Shit, not OP but this is making me realize I need to get back on test

>>40587948
why'd you stop?

>>40587218
She is really trying to get me to reverse my decision, and I really want to stay with her but I feel like it's a bad idea so I'm trying. I'm starting to think I doomed the breakup by not asking her to leave immediately.
>>40587228
She can call her mom or her brother and they can come get her by Monday. There's just a drive that makes that unfeasible by today/tomorrow.
>>40587789
Tryna be strong about it.
>>40587870
I can't gracefully haul out her computer, her desk, and all her crap. My D&D group can make it quick and easy. I'm not calling them in to muscle her out.

>>40588088
if you're a woman and a gang of neckbeards start moving all your shit outside, yeah that counts as muscled out.

>>40588366
retard who has clearly never moved into or out of a place award. have you ever tried to move a couch alone

>>40588088
how long were u two together?

>>40588584
Two years.
>>40588366
And what's the alternative? Let her stay here indefinitely continuing to push for how we shouldn't break up? When it's already hard to go through with it and I know she doesn't respect or love me for who I am? I'm giving her time to get her family to come help her pack up and move out. I'm not going to support her forever.

>>40588634
>Two years.
calling bs u dont call it quits in a 2 year relationship after 2 days of a 4chan thread kek

>>40588676
Don't think you realize these issues have been mounting over time for a while now. The thread was just looking for insight from other LGBT folks.

>>40588676
i still dont understand how a pretransition trans person expects to be seen as their chosen gender. it took me until 4 years hrt for me to expect everyone to see me as a woman, and yet ftms do this shit years before starting hormones. like, literally no one will see you as the gender you say you are unless you transition. even the wokest of the wokes will see op as woman-lite unless they start T and start too look like a man. ops ex was just honest

>>40582656
why would u get a femrepper bf without the intention of forcemascing him? is that not literally the dream?

>>40588704
like imagine just a straight up guy asking everyone to refer to them as she/her and to treat them as a woman, including being allowed into womens spaces. its just ridiculous

>>40588683
im just skeptical anon, its playing into too many stereotypes on both sides that it feels a bit off.
>>40588704
eh, i dont think its awful to expect or want ur partner to see you as your chosen gender. its different than like with being out in public.

>>40588704
ive been on hrt for 7 years and have been misgendered only 3 times in the last 5 years and i still don't expect anyone to see me as a woman honestly.

>>40588773
RIGHT?? i mean i was talking about my significant other and closest friends. when it comes to normal friends, family and strangers i have no hope. its just ive met pre-T ftms who will correct complete strangers on their pronouns despite never wanting to touch testosterone

>>40588634
Well who you are is a sad sack of shit who hasn't done the bare minimum to start transitioning, dumping her because she held up a mirror for your lack of volition. Pathetic.

>>40588797
earlier in my transition i had a lot of babytrans confidence and expected all my friends to see me as a real woman but i found out almost none really did. same story has repeated itself so i just never tell anyone. i think my bf sees me as a woman but i also think he probably wouldnt if he saw me fully naked :( everyone else i just dont tell and pray that im stealth, and when i do tell people it's hard. i cried trying to tell my therapist that im trans

if op is dumping their gf bcuz she wont let him transition, good. you shouldnt date someone who wont let you transition

if op however is dumping their gf bcuz she sees him as a man then ops retarded. op youre 4'11, weak and havent touched a drop of T. literally no one will see you as a man until you change it. also like other people have said, cis women will worry when their man works a dangerous job even if hes 6'2

>>40588841
if op however is dumping their gf bcuz she sees him as a *WOman

theres my daily typo

>>40588839
ive also lost all hope. rn i only expect my closest friends to see me as a woman, and 2 are trans, and 2 are cis woman. im not dating anyone rn but of course i wouldnt date anyone who sees me as a man. i understand this is the same logic op is experiencing, but the only reason i started thinking this way is because i somewhat pass i think according to my friends, havent been misgendered more than twice a year, and have been on hrt for years now

>>40588870
okay i can't relate to that at all id never be willing to date someone who saw me as a man, even as a nonpassing babytranny and pre hrt. would just be too painful

>>40588882
i did prehrt. gay guy. he broke up with me once i started getting too fem which made me cry for days when it happend but now makes me feel better abt myself, esp since he was a terrible bf in retrospect now that ive dated other people

>>40588841
it's the latter. Only a pooner could have such little self awareness

>>40588810
I half thought you were my (ex)gf in the other room on her phone for a minute.
Your argument falls apart when you consider all this is happening because she tried to discourage me when I told her I'm starting T. She then told me she only likes women and was only ever treating me like a guy to be nice.
>>40588841
I'm dumping her bc she made it clear she was only ever into me because she wanted to keep me as a repper and she doesn't like men. This was never a real relationship, she was using me for my body.

>>40589203
yea then you have a good reason to dump her then. that being said, expecting her to see you as a man while pre-T was stupid of you, and let me tell you as another trans person, even after starting hrt this will repeat. most people will see you as your natal gender. you need to get a close group of friends who do see you as a man and a partner who also sees you as one, but that wont happen until you start passing a bit, most likely after 3-4 years on T. until then most relationships will end up like yours with hers

>>40589410
I just expected another trans person would be more understanding, more empathetic, that she'd "get it" and be supportive. If I'd been dating a cis person I would've expected everything you said, but she's MTF and since she probably went through similar I thought she'd see the pain I'm feeling and as my partner want to support and validate me.

>>40589505
imagine her perspective though. imagine her existential horror of the near future where she, a lesbian, has to wake up next to a man every morning, kiss him while feeling facial hair against her skin, try and love him even though touching him sexually visceral disgusts her. if you can't live without someone, but they're actively transitioning into something you're not attracted to, you feel the only way out is for you to die and wish he had never met you. it's easier to be a bad partner than it is to let go of the person you love.

>>40589203
she's a piece of shit. imagine being trans, having experienced the misery of repression, and trying to force someone else to go through it.

>>40589505
lol. As a hon, I've had to accept that all of my trans friends will never see me as a woman. if you want acceptance as a gender, even from other trans people, you have to pass as that gender. hopefully T helps you out with that and you become a dwarfmaxxing passoid anon.

>>40589203
Even if you do break up because of that, it doesn't make what she said untrue.

>>40589891
>she's a piece of shit. imagine being trans, having experienced the misery of repression, and trying to force someone else to go through it.
one trillion percent. psychopathic

>>40588755
How would your partner be any different than "the public"?
What would attract them to you in the first place?

Oh
Right

>>40589841
If OP loves her gf she should just keep repping desu

>>40590353
Like all transbians.

>>40590391
not everyone has as shallow a view of their partners as you do anon

>>40565496 (OP)
Oh wow same thread 3 days later. I hope our ftm friend is getting lots of help... Oh yall breaking up now?
*

>>40590233
So what, you think I should keep repping? Kind of a pussy move.
>>40590974
Fuck all the way off. I'm not gonna be a girl.

>>40593056
>Person with vagina, whose body naturally produces estrogen, who is not pursuing any form of medical transition "I'm not gonna be a girl"

Sister, you already are

>>40565496 (OP)
so pack a gun
also, she's using you
ftm's can never trust mtf's

>>40587870
AFaBs control people, not things
That's how we build them

Why move a bunch of crap when you can get a small army of AMaB simps to sniff out your desperation and come to the rescue? A trve privilege transgirls will never really get...

>>40589203
>she was using me for my body!!
THIS IS THE FUCKING BASIS OF ROMANTIC AND SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS

what is this phenomena of femreppers identifying as trans and seeing themselves as men?? where do they find this bottomless confidence? i just keep seeing it. it's the exact mindset you see boomerhons who transition after 10 years of marriage and 5 kids have lol
>>40582656
>>40583056
dude... of course she's into you because you're a woman. you've done nothing to be anything else. what did you expect? it's so bizarre to expect someone to be attracted to your 'male soul' and ignore their entire sexuality up until that point. you wanted to turn her 'straight' lol? you are so fucking retarded. also extremely fembrained mindset.
and jesus chill with the self-pity "i'm walking alone in the rain rn" bullshit, this is 4chan. no one feels sorry for you. at least you're actually transitioning. try not to date a lesbian next time dumbass lul

>>40585165
>kys
Don’t hide from the truth, I can sympathise with your situation and I do feel quite bad but realistically what other choice do you have? Let yourself become a girl because youre never going to be a man realistically. I had an ftm friend who had a very similar relationship but with a bisexual woman and she always felt inadequate and emasculated, she went on to depoon and she tells me it was the right choice in the end and it could be the case for you. A lot of women want to be men but no one can view you as anything else unless you actually transition which, even so, would probably make your life a lot worse

>>40594951
read the rest of the thread retard

>>40594823
you've clearly never been in a healthy relationship

>what is this phenomena of femreppers identifying as trans and seeing themselves as men?? where do they find this bottomless confidence?
Being a woman comes with the free delusion and lack of self-awareness when it comes to how (they want) others/overall society to view them.

>>40594945
>what is this phenomena of femreppers identifying as trans and seeing themselves as men?? where do they find this bottomless confidence?
Being a woman comes with the free delusion and lack of self-awareness when it comes to how (they want) others/overall society to view them.

>>40591678
not all transbians are like that anon. I rejected my early-transition ftm friend because I'm interested in women, ideally another transbian.

sorry you're getting bullied so hard OP. I hope your transition goes well.

>>40594823
it really isn't, or at least it isn't supposed to be. physical attraction isn't the same thing as "using someone for their body." successful relationships require some level of nonsexual compatibility.

She tried to hurt my cat. I threw her shit out the window and told her to go swim for it the second she decided to touch my baby. She ran out to get her stuff screeching and I locked the door. Threw her purse out without her apartment keys inside.
Me and the cat are eating pizza and watching Kamen Rider now (he only gets the crusts cus I worry the cheese and sauce might mess with his tummy but he loves the crusts so it works).

>>40594945
>what is this phenomena of femreppers identifying as trans and seeing themselves as men??
OP is literally the only person I ever saw who does this most of us call ourselves women.

>>40582656
This is what you get when you trust moids.

>>40597135
Based as FUCK OP. People who fuck with cats deserve a noose.

>>40595168
My point still stands because you still refer to yourself as a man in your other replied

>>40597013
I understand what you mean
But, when you enter a relationship of sexual nature, you are using their body.
If they were a sexually unappealing specimen, you wouldn't have started the process of building a sexual relationship.

>>40594945
fucking based assessment
the BOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOooooOooo I'm-gonna-kill-myself-but-not-really female thing happened with a poonah I once knew

>>40565496 (OP)

Do you box? Do you lift? Do those things and you'll be man. Look at the best women boxers in the world, they get accused of being men all the time just because they're strong and good at fighting.

ew

>>40600171
stop bumping your fucking thread its been 4 days let it GO

>>40565496 (OP)
She's right. You're a fucking midget and not even on test. You're a short foid and you are in as much danger as any other short foid at night. If you were a 6'3 MtF NOT TAKING ESTROGEN and then complaining that your partner doesn't see you as a woman, everyone ITT would laugh at you for being a retard. If you don't look like a duck, or quack like a duck, do not complain when people don't treat you like a duck. The people treating you like a duck do it solely for your appeasement because of your relationship to them. Yes, that's a bitter pill to swallow, but that's the truth

>>40600303
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP LET THIS THREAD DIE

>>40565496 (OP)
mate i worry about my small or frail cis male friends
Double so if they could be mistaken for a woman

you need to carry protection and it has nothing to do with gender. you can't make your loved ones worried like that.

>>40585165
>and somehow I ended up on my back getting fucked

>>40576884
Hey this thread is like long but I have to say your gfs attitude and encouraging you to rep screams major red flag to me. Plus the "Im just being reasonable" like just comes across as manipulative like she's post hoc rationalizing away why she's acting this way
I would listen to the shorter ftms ITT and also see if you can find any others to listen to, esp if they've been in an st4t relationship before
Just my onion as an mtf

This thread has to be bait. There's no way every negative AFAB stereotype can be displayed so quickly and melodramatically. It can't be real.