> be me
> tboy who was hypermasc for 4-5 years, was legitimately afraid of expressing the femininity that co existed with my gender dysphoria
> start expressing more femininely in like 2022 and onward, feeling innately uncomfortable merely bc of how i could be perceived as a “girly girl” rather than a boy dressing up
> strictly call myself a cis man online so no one questions my posts/appearance
> meet straight cis guy who likes femboys on the side, date for a few years
> eventually come out about being a tboy (somehow he never questioned from my voice? lol)
> knows this is a weak point now and just afraid of getting called a girl or that itll be in the back of his subconscious that im a trender for presenting femininely
> arguments happen and low and behold, 8/10 of those arguments throughout relationship he calls me a girl countless times and compares me to women bc of my mental illnesses
> feel like shit
> just ranting on this site i barely use bc im butthurt over one too many things relating to this guy

should i just never present feminine ever again? i love being masculine but i just hate the idea that i cant be seen as a guy bc of social norms correlating femininity solely to women or that “going against the grain” is acceptable only when its cis men .__. maybe when i get top surgery and have access to T in my bum ass country

>not on T
there it is, wtf did you expect?

>>40574173 (OP)
If you were a convincing man he wouldn't think of you as a girl whether he was anti trans or not

Maybe if you had a meat tube

>>40574173 (OP)
>have access to T in my bum
you're not a tboy. you're just a tomboy woman

>>40574245
youre probably right T—T

>>40574389
why do people who haven't even transitioned call themselves trans. op had 4 years to sort that shit out

>>40574424
she's just an attention whore woman and not a ftm

>>40574389
well i dont present like a woman, i dont wear makeup or anything, and im actually extremely uncomfortable with my voice and i binded unsafely for years until i was able to buy a binder secretly from my dad, by femininely i meant i just dont have short hair i have bangs, i wear glasses and i like wearing skirts sometimes and thigh highs ._. i dont particularly think i present as a woman at all, thats why i just feel meh

>>40574433
eh i guess i could be perceived that way cus i liked posting sometimes when i thought i didnt look atrocious, but i never leave my house and thought i might as well make use of my skirts while stuck in my room :\ but i dont like the idea of being perceived as anything but a dude..

>>40574465
I get that feeling anon and only way to stop feeling mega dysphoric is to get on T

>>40574436
>woman is when makeup and le presentation
You're a fucking retarded. Go figure out bitcoin and buy T that way, or hit up your local gym bros and pay them.

>>40574742
Yeah men are just things that look like men...Sure, not like they have dicks or anything

>>40574773
i cant do that if im a chronically online teen who doesnt leave my room and i live in bumfuck brazil and also just live w a very homo/tphobic dad .__. but i understand

>>40574742
yeh hopefully one day :0

whats your height and weight OP

>>40574823
Can i vore you dude so i can absorb all your knowledge

>>40574958
152 cm last time i checked, i weigh 43kg

>>40574982
uh... youre kidding right? why do you say you were 'hypermasc' when youre that skinny. and that short.

>>40575072
'hypermasc' = short hair and pants to these types

>>40575072
well… cus that was from 2019-2022 only ._. i was “masculine” i meant like i would chop my own hair and wear my brothers clothes but throughout those years i was 11-14 lmao; maybe i shouldnt have used the term hypermasc sorrgy

>>40575100
are you amab or afab.if youre afab, it makes sense youre that short. but if ur amab.. then something else is goin on lol

>>40575154
im afab, im a trans dude D:

>>40575176
ah okay. nvm then, makes sense ur that light and short.

>>40574219
trvke..

>>40574982
>152 cm
lmao

>(somehow he never questioned from my voice? lol)
Why are Gaydens this retarded
also you type like a teenage girl wtf.

I just dont understand the lack of self awareness with pooners.

>>40574173 (OP)
>POV: you trusted a cis person

>>40574982
>152 cm
>>40574982
>43kg
>>40574173 (OP)
>hypermasc
lmao girl get a grip

>>40576210
sorrgy :,p

>>40574173 (OP)
"going against the grain" isn't acceptable for amabs they get discouraged bullied and beat up for expressing any perceived femininity. i think you should be able to do what you want but i can't relate to risking being seen as your birth sex by doing that pre hrt.. i waited until i passed to embrace some masculinity because there isn't room for trannies to deviate unless the idea of us being our birth sex is laughable

>>40577032
yeah no im sorry if i came off as invalidating, i meant as in, i guess.. the extreme “fetishization” surrounding cis femboys is what i meant by it being more acceptable for cis men to express femininity .~. no doubt theres def a LOT of stigma/hatred around that too but i hope ygwim ;v;

>>40574982
You guys are buying this larp?

>>40577059
i think you're at risk of extreme fetishization by more people than cis femboys my guy.

>>40574173 (OP)
detransition now and show your beautiful unshaved pussy you pretty girl

>>40577080
not sure if its safe to do on 4chan but like i could show myself?? idk if thats what u mean or someting

Also FTM like OP, I can second this by saying that when i didnt pass as well (beginning or freshman year) my ex mainly referred to me as a 'femboy' and would almost constantly sexualize me. He also grabbed my ass randomly and would constantly ask to do things until i gave in :/

>>40577177
honestly i feel so bad for gay trans men

>>40574173 (OP)
>and have access to T in my bum ass country
Where are you and why haven't you risked DIY yet?

>>40577281
brazil and bc i live shut out in my room with an overprotective & tphobic dad ._.

>>40577133
Are you retarded? Like genuinely developmentally delayed in the head?

>>40577303
>bc i live shut out in my room with an overprotective & tphobic dad ._.
If you're 18 this doesn't matter
>brazil
Can't order overseas?

>>40577323
all i know is i have autism but maybe lol ;-;

>>40577329
>If you’re 18 this doesn’t matter
yea im 1 year off unfortunately ._.
>overseas?
idk where to look, and not sure if id be able to buy cus i dont have a reliable income besides getting art commissioned every now and then by friends

>>40574173 (OP)
awesome bait

vendo gordo mitonamo traicionero

>>40577059
why the fuck do you type like
also this you have to be 18 to post here

>>40574939
You could still buy T online very easily, but if you don't want to do that you just have to accept everyone around you will see you as a woman, even if the say otherwise

>>40574173 (OP)
a lot of people are forgetting about the part where
>date for a few years
so does that mean he didnt question your "inherent" femininity at all during that time? and for everyone else doesnt it kinda hurt that had op been cis instead of trans it wouldnt have turned out as upsetting?

>>40578017
we never met irl… we only facetimed and called >_> thats why he just assumed i wasnt lying ab being cis