Why would someone repress if they are getting topped anyways? Has anyone ever pulled a John, 50 on their loving husband and their three beautiful adopted africans?

>>40574783 (OP)
bc being trans is 10000x more cringe than being gay

Sort of, it's called a bisexual. Most bisexuals live "straight" lives because any history of same-sex action is the end of your dating life with women.

Normies can't really make sense of bisexuality so a lot of bi guys who get divorced from women are like fuck this shit, I'm done pretending, and they'll have a fling with a twink or something. And the normies see this and go "oh, he was gay the whole time and coping" because to them, it's the same thing.

>>40574783 (OP)
An hsts old shit isn’t possible cause hsts transition at a young age but besides that gay marriage is very recent and there needs to be more time for something like this to spring up

>>40574842
Ok but I asked about transgenders.
>>40574846
I know a guy who married before gay marriage was a thing.

>>40574867
Oh and did he transition into a woman too anon

>>40574919
No.

>>40574955
Well you know what im gonna say then

>>40574985
not really

>>40574799
Fpbp

being trans is more acceptable than being gay

>>40574842
Trueeeee
>>40574783 (OP)
Trans isn't just sexual perception, it's social perception too. Both of these overlap with self perception, and that triple venn diagram has trans identity at the center.

Also generally if you're open enough to marry another man you're open enough to throw on a dress and feel some feelings. I've been crossdressing privately since 4 years old but didn't hook up with a guy until 23.

>>40577867
Passing tranny > nonflamboyant gay > flamboyant gay > nonpassing tranny

>>40577962
being unpassing trans is more accepted than being flamboyantly gay

>>40574799
I just dont understand because being gay is already cringe so why not just stack ontop it? At least straight repressors get a shot at being normal

>>40577979
The same people who would hate one also hate the other, they see them as basically the same thing, but the tranny is even more visible, and even more visibly vulnerable, they have a clear and visible point of deep insecurity to latch onto, which draws bullies and predators like flies to a carcass

>>40578005
no, its more subtle than that, being gay is rebellious, trannies are castrated and submissive, they aren't a threat to the status quo - gay is seen as subversive and intentionally threatening
>but the tranny is even more visible
if you are gay and have gay mannerisms and voice, but look like a dude, everyone is gonna know anyways - trannyism is just saying "yeah I know im a fruitfag but I will behave and stay low on the social ladder and conform to gender roles as best I can"