I'm planning on taking HRT for 1-3 months just to feel things out before I fully commit; after that I'll likely stop and decide whether or not I want to continue and handle things like banking sperm.
Is there any harm in doing this? Has anyone else ever done anything similar?

>>40586856 (OP)
No real harm go through with it

>>40586856 (OP)
Infertility onset is as early as 1 month, bank that sperm before you start

>>40586856 (OP)
Same. On estrogen monotherapy b/c it's cheap and without major side effects of AA. Nearly 4 weeks in and not as bad as I thought it would be. No mood swings at all, libido down but not tanked, better skin, other minor changes.

>>40586899
>>40586889
Not OP but I'm 20 and I doubt I'll have issues getting back to regular if I do quit.

>>40586889
I'm not in a position to dump $1k+ for something I'm not sure I'm actually going to want longterm.
My plan is mostly just to test the waters then detransition long enough to restore fertility and bank my swimmers. Fertility usually isn't even if your gonads are dormant for years, I'm only looking at 1-3 months.
If that's an issue I might just hold off though. I'm gonna be taking dutasteride no matter what happens, so I'm not in a rush.
>>40586899
That's all good to hear! I'm happy for you! I'm looking at monotherapy. I mixed up some E spray earlier today. Libido and dick function is a concern for me. It's good to hear libido wasn't a big issue for you, and I have T-gel and tadalafil on hand, so I'm set more or less.
I'm pretty nervous about breast growth though. If it becomes problematic I'll likely have to gravitate towards a SERM or reevaluate.
>>40586908
Ah, cool. I'm also 20. Lots of 20 year olds on this board.

>>40586946
>Fertility usually isn't even
I meant restoring fertility usually isn't an issue even if your gonads are dormant for years.
My bad.

>>40586946
>Libido and dick function is a concern for me.
I haven't personally checked my levels but I've been messing around with dosing such as increasing dose slightly or increasing frequency of subq injections. Main thing thats happened is I don't randomly get urges anymore, it's more like I feel like doing it and then it's fine perhaps very slightly less intense but not really an issue.

I don't understand how you people willingly destroy your bodies. Erectile dysfunction is common and often permanent. Loss of sex drive. Inability or disminished orgasm.

And all that for what? 99% still can't pass. What a waste.

>>40586977
I'm gay and if I'm not super interested in having kids I will instead opt for a more perfect body. If you don't pass then just become a subtly styled NB person and confuse people around you.

>>40586974
>I don't randomly get urges anymore, it's more like I feel like doing it
That sounds like an urge to me?
Is it more like a passive want and not a need? That would be awesome.
>>40586977
>Erectile dysfunction is common and often permanent. Loss of sex drive. Inability or disminished orgasm.
If I have any of these issues I'm just gonna get off HRT.
I'd like some of the effects of HRT, but if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
>And all that for what? 99% still can't pass. What a waste.
I'm not trying to pass. I'm just trying to stay as feminine as I am right now.
>>40586987
>If you don't pass then just become a subtly styled NB person and confuse people around you.
Based.

>>40586987
I'm gay too, but I didn't mention anything about fertility in my post.

Going to the gym, getting slim or fit, looking your best naturally is what it's all about to me. Male bodies look better when they lean into that imo

Or you know, just play dress up. Boys can wear dresses and makeup without using hormones

>>40587008
>Going to the gym, getting slim or fit, looking your best naturally is what it's all about to me. Male bodies look better when they lean into that imo
A lot of us are actively distressed by the idea of having masculine bodies.
>Or you know, just play dress up. Boys can wear dresses and makeup without using hormones
It gets harder as you get older. Being feminine while your hormones work against you is a pain in the ass.

>>40587007
>Is it more like a passive want and not a need? That would be awesome.
Yeah it doesn't matter that much if you don't do it. Challenges like NNN or some shit would be easy for me now. I do it mainly to prevent atrophy and out of boredom, still a little libido.
>>40587008
>Boys can wear dresses and makeup without using hormones
You're joking right? Past the age of 18 people start looking gross when they do that.
>Going to the gym, getting slim or fit, looking your best naturally is what it's all about to me.
I lean hard into femme, you could consider me like a straight gay in a sense. Masc has always gross to me. Androgeny is better.

>>40587031
Why tho? What is so terrible about looking masculine? Probably 80% of the world, gay or straight, finds masc dudes the more attractive option. I'm not even talking hyper masculine, even boyish nonfem twinks are hot

>>40587035
Well I think fem guys a big turn off, so that's why I can't grasp where y'all are coming from

>>40587070
>Well I think fem guys a big turn off, so that's why I can't grasp where y'all are coming from
Dicks >> vagina
masculine interests+personality > feminine interests+personality
feminine beauty > masculine functionality
long hair >short hair

I grew breast buds within a month soo

>>40587086
If you have a similar sexual or romantic interest you can amplify your looks to fit this critera and get with better looking guys

>>40587086
I have super long hair. I don't associate it with being feminine. A softer delicate appearance isn't necessarily a bad thing either. It's when y'all start growing breasts or lopping off parts that gives me anxiety

>>40586856 (OP)
Nice gooner pic Fred. Can't wait to see how this turns out!

>>40587112
>It's when y'all start growing breasts or lopping off parts that gives me anxiety
I don't personally have bottom disphoria so I won't be removing anything if I do go though (this differs for others of course)

>>40587070
>Why tho? What is so terrible about looking masculine?
Nothing really.
I just don't think I want it for myself. Whenever I imagine myself masculine I get this feeling of existential dread. It's enough to give me a migraine, it's almost indescribable.
The fear of masculinizing has been in the back of my head eating away at me since I was 13. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm not gonna grow out of it. I think the only way I'm ever going to make it go away is by experimenting.
If HRT doesn't work out I'm just going to take dutasteride.

>>40587136
Why do you think having breasts looks good tho? It just throws me off. Seeing breasts and a dick together clashes. it feels unnatural and kind of unsettling. My brain doesn’t know how to process it and goes "yuck"

>>40587166
Can't you look fem or androgy without growing boobs tho?

>>40587174
I can try, but the fact that my hormones are actively working against me in achieving that makes me extremely nervous.
SERMs would be an option, but adverse neurological effects are common on SERMs, not to mention how expensive SERM regimens can be.

>>40587169
I mean it's not naturally occuring, I suppose. I personally don't mind "hybrid" combinations of things. I like boobs, they're soft and comfy for my partner as opposed to a flat or more solid chest, so why not?

>>40587102
Damn maybe my dose is low

>>40586977
loss or sex drive is a plus sex is gross and wrong

>>40587186
Are you MtF or FtM? Bc you don't need SERMs to achieve a flat chest if you're male. Just exist and be.

>>40587187
I mean you do you, I guess. But I am drawn to dudes. Lying on your head on a flat chest is soo amazing. You get to hear his heartbeat.

>>40587214
Bro, orgasms feel amazing

>>40586889
lol that doesn't happen, antiandrogens may lead to infertility sooner but estradiol monotherapy itself doesn't permanently damage your gonads until years in

>>40587234
orgasms on estrogen feels amazing

>>40587244
Estrogen doesn’t make orgasms better. It slowly erases them. Testosterone is what gives them impact, intensity, and drive. Take it away, and you get a watered down version that might feel novel at first, but over time, it fades. Saying orgasms feel amazing on estrogen is like praising a dying fire because it’s flickering differently. Enjoy it while it lasts because it won’t...

>>40586977
google gender dysphoria. actual retard
also i specifically wanted to get what you mentioned and i still didn't.

>>40587267
Chuds just keep making new shit up every day huh

>>40587227
>Just exist and be.
I'm AMAB.
For not getting breast growth, aside from remaining on T (which I'm hesitant to do long-term), SERMs are my only option.
Dutasteride is a possible middle ground, but I'd like to explore all my options.
>>40587267
And this is based on absolutely nothing I assume.

>>40587244
ive been on hrt for almost 10 years and honestly never got the orgasms changing meme.. UNTIL I USED A MASSAGE GUN.

It will make you want to suck dicks

ur gonna be a chaser's cute little tranny wife in a year

>>40587283
Nothing I said is made up. Basic endocrinology: suppress testosterone, and you suppress male sexual function. Estrogen doesn’t enhance it, it changes it, and usually not for the better long term. If reality bothers you, that’s not on me

>>40587267
ur a male coomer. estrogen works better with a submissive sexuality. if some one else makes you cum its insane

>>40587345
fuck i wish i wasn't a biological incel

>>40587327
source? or are you speaking from experience

>>40587602
NTA but I'd say it's pretty likely he is.

>>40587317
Oh nooooo, that sounds terrible!

>>40586908
I was on hrt for a month and a half and it took me more than a year to have regular ejaculate again.

>>40590017
What age are you? Did you do diy before starting hrt? Any history of low T or anything like that?

>>40590017
That’s pretty unusual.
Why’d you get off HRT? Sperm banking or did you just change your mind?

Bump

>>40590086
went off hrt because I got scared
>>40590045
was 26 and no diy. just prescription .

>>40586856 (OP)
I did this and after a month i was like, oh yeah this is def for me, but when i went to bank sperm they told me there wasn't enough sperm to bank. When you nuke your sperm your sperm it takes ~3 months for your body to create more, so don't dick around with AAs before banking if possible or prepare to delay hrt for a couple months. Fwiw, i did get to see what it was like going back to no hrt after a month of it and it sucked ass ime and that experience keeps me from ever wanting to detrans

>>40587169
Go back tarded GRID-dy womp womp

>>40586977
>Erectile dysfunction is common
beta spotted
>>40587345
>It slowly erases them
hot
>>40587345
alpha spotted

>>40586856 (OP)
nothing will happen in only 3 months dumbass

>>40586977
>I don't understand how you people willingly destroy your bodies.
you have to be actually genuinely retarded to not understand how for us NOT taking hrt is what would destroy our bodies and hrt is the savior. getting tits and perfect skin is an improvement, mpb is suicide
>Erectile dysfunction is common and often permanent.
couldnt care less
>Loss of sex drive.
good
>Inability or disminished orgasm.
my irgasms are much better though???
>And all that for what? 99% still can't pass. What a waste.
cool made up statistic, vast majority who start young and put sone effort into it pass just fine. never post again

>>40587227
>You get to hear his heartbeat.
virgin faggotnigger thinks breasts prevent you from doing that??? lmfao

>>40586977
1 - i pass
2 - my dick works
3 - i dont feel as driven to sex and have a lot more time for other hobbies i enjoy

Orgasms are significantly diminished though, no getting around that, but the tradeoff was worth it to me

>>40586977
I never wanted kids or a dick that gets hard, so its not really a waste in my case