I’m a short latino femboy and i’ve been such for over a decade ever since I was little. I’ve never had an irl relationship however i’ve entertained quite a few guys online in that time and sure, that’s not a realistic experience by any means, however it’s given me a little taste of how the world works. I’m extremely progressive and interacting with progressive men has been actual hell. They socially come off as kind hearted and understanding but when you get in a romantic situation with them they treat you like you’re expendable because they know they can have any kind of girl they want so why would they take someone like me seriously? Even though they’re allegedly open minded they still end up with a white woman or maybe asian if they’re feeling spicy. But conservative men have treated me like a beautiful princess, Like i’m the caramel skinned boywife of their dreams. But dating one would be social suicide for me and all of my progressive peers would hate me for it. I just love how they treat me and it’s genuinely like they appreciate me and feel like they’re lucky to have me. Why is that? Should I just bite the bullet and try to get with one and keep his political affiliation a secret? I just wanna be loved..

>>40594245 (OP)
if you like women i think most tgirls would probably treat you how you want to be treated and are progressive

>>40594312
I’m 100% gay, I only like men.. It’s a hard knock life out here :/

>>40594245 (OP)
The truth of the matter is, being objectified and fetishized can be extremely arousing for the bottom. But it’s a feeling that can’t last. You can’t spend ur entire relationship being a boytoy. Of course in certain contexts is nice but not all the time. There needs to be normalcy and intimacy beyond that. You need a bf who loves u and cherishes you. I’ve been in a few relationships so I know what I want do not want. I’d guide you and make you mine, but to be honest a lot of dudes on here lie about how attractive they really are lmao.

>>40594516
Oh and to answer your question; no. Do not bite the bullet. Things that are kept in secret become really ugly once they’re out in the open. You may find it fine now, but when he doenst want his friends to know about you. When he doesn’t want anyone else to know about you, when he doesn’t want to hold hands or kiss you in public. That’s where things get messy.

>>40594516
I totally understand that, I’m sure i’m just extremely naive to believe that a conservative man could give me that and not want to hide me in the shadows but you’re probably right in the sense that the novelty will feel fantastic but it’ll fade and his true colors will seep into the relationship and spoil it. I just feel so invisible beyond that fetishization and I try and try so hard to be the best femboy I can possibly be but men only want sexual interactions and nothing beyond that. I just want a man to be passionate about me but i’ve never gotten that from progressive men, if anything they’re kinda mean to me but conservative men promise me that I wouldn’t be a secret, but i’m just too optimistic for believing them. I’m very short and very naturally feminine, I consider myself attractive and I put in a lot of effort to maintain my beauty because it’s the only thing that gives me an upper hand in this world but i’m extremely jealous so the mention of your past relationships is a turn off, I wish I could turn off my extreme possessiveness as well. I’m too much of a burden, maybe i’m just better off being something pretty to look at but not touch like a rose with thorns.

>>40594245 (OP)
Fuck your "progressive" friends. Get that conservative dick. I promise you they all have but keep it DL to virtue signal

>>40594688
This is a bit of a hot take, but being obsessive and possessive is fine. So long as it’s reciprocated. That’s why some people like being treated roughly in bed but don’t want a stranger anywhere near them irl. It’s all about how well the two people click. Sorry to mention my past, just needed to say it to prove I don’t mess around like most guys do. I’m really glad to hear you put effort into your body and appearance tho, most people just don’t do anything and let genetics do the heavy lifting. There is more to you beyond just looking pretty. From ur answers I can tell you think about stuff pretty deeply. Most ppl would just give me a 2 sentence answer but you’ve given me all your thoughts. I like that.

>maybe I’m better off being a rose
Don’t say that silly. Humans are social creatures. Don’t isolate yourself. You just need to reframe your perspective and find the right guy to treat you right. Tell me, what’s the ideal partner for you? In your opinion. Personality wise, physically wise etc

>>40594828
Thank you for seeing something more in me :) Well, it’s hard to say because for me I develop attraction in the opposite way so instead of looking for a man to meet a quota and fit a specific personality, I’d just like to meet him and learn about who he is and what he likes and let my heart take it from there. But if I have to be more specific then, someone who’s understanding, emotionally conscious, and can talk with me hours on end about whatever comes to our minds and create a relationship where we feel safe to be our raw selves together even if the world feels like it’s falling apart. I want him to be my lover and best friend, someone dependable, caring, considerate, and observant. Someone where even if we find differences we can settle them compassionately and never disrespect each other because of it. I want my twin flame, my other half. What are some traits that men find attractive towards femboys personality wise?

>>40594800
Sounds okay for sexual relationships but I want something more, DL sounds like a headache :(

>>40595111
Apologies for the late response, was having some lunch.
>I’d just like to meet him and learn about who he is and what he likes and let my heart take it from there
In an ideal world, that's actually thebest way to go about it. in fact, that's how i view things. its why im open to most people, whether they are tall and chubby or short and slim. each person is unique in their own way. but this is not the ideal world, sadly. esp towards bottoms, most men are just horny. im a top so i can pick and choose, if a person is talking to me and i figure out they are just horny for my cock, i can tell them "no thanks" . but bottoms can sometimes be forced into uncomfortable situations.

>someone who’s understanding, emotionally conscious, and can talk with me hours on end about whatever comes to our minds and create a relationship where we feel safe to be our raw selves together even if the world feels like it’s falling apart
you know what's so funny, this is exactly how I'd describe my ideal relationship as well lmao. what a coincidence.

Here's what i dont understand though. your requests are very reasonable. you seem like a genuinely earnest and good person, so how come you still end up with guys trying to take advantage of you? perhaps you are a bit too kind to strangers.

as for the last part, i cant tell you what traits men would find attractive towards femboys. because im not like most men, i dont think with my dick. some of the people i know irl will date femboys and then ill ask them "whats their favorite color? their favorite food? whats on their bucket list? do you know what their love languages?" And they wont know the answer to any. cause all they do is horny talk till they cum and then leave the femboy. it's pretty sad that i dont see any guys like me who want to cherish and love and treat a femboy the way they should be treated.

but i do feel like we align in some ways in our values. thats nice.

>>40595352
No worries, I’m sorry as well. I also just had lunch :)

> so how come you still end up with guys trying to take advantage of you?

I really wish I knew, I think you’re right with the assumption that i’m too kind to strangers. I grew up in a pretty conservative town so no matter how drop dead beautiful you were, nobody would touch a femboy with a 10 foot pole. I just developed a complex where I feel like i’m not worth anyone’s time so when I get attention I’m easily swooned but i’m struggling to place where I lie in this world in regards to how much attention towards me is reasonable being who I am and I don’t really know the natural progression towards a relationship so I end up being an easy target to take advantage of and I take the bait I suppose. I just want to believe the best in everyone so if someone tells me who they are and what their intentions are with me then I just blindly believe it and I end up being misled.

I feel the same way you do too, I don’t have a physical type either, he can have a micro d for all I care but If I love him then I’m committing to him. Beauty fades but personality is forever.

>>40595691
>Beauty fades but personality is forever.
Oh mija. you have no clue. i have never met a single other person aside from myself who has used that line, are you a spy? are you spying on me, lol?

>I grew up in a pretty conservative town so no matter how drop dead beautiful you were, nobody would touch a femboy with a 10 foot pole
Jesus. its like having a pretty flower grow in a swamp lol.

>just want to believe the best in everyone
you're so sweet. I used to have the same mindset but.. yeah. people are harsh.

Imma be honest, i was just fine with chatting in this thread, but the fact that u used the same line i always use. and i genuinely have never heard anyone else use that. i have to get to know you better and find out what kind of person you are. its just too much of a coincidence. first the ideals and morals aligning and now this. if i drop my discord, would u add me?

>>40595769
Great minds think alike I guess :) I’m really flattered thank you so much, I’d totally be down for that. You sound amazing and I literally just made a new discord so it’s perfect timing, I’ll for sure add you

>>40594492
Damn, maybe you could find a malebrained ftm? Strap and dick feel the same in your ass.

>>40595820
28251_feet

Also, the name may sound weird but I promise its NOT what you think it is lol. ill explain once u add me hahaha

>>40594245 (OP)
What about intellectual/aesthete men without dogmatic political affiliations? The sort to work in fine film or clothing/architecture or such industries but not define themselves by political labels?

>>40595305
You misunderstand. Go ahead and date who you want openly and let them think whatever they want. Do in the open what they do behind closed doors. If questioned, say you're "changing him". Use whatever language you choose to make it sound PC

>>40594245 (OP)
gonna get shit for this but im the trad top in this scenario

look, honestly, nobody on my end cares if i got a hot boyfriend, theyd probably be proud. the femboy part "helps" bc you dont register as a man to them so its just w/e plus girls get along with you easier so all good.

the issue is you are afraid to come outto your lib friends but guess what, you are fucking reverse closeted. can we just be upfront and say what gay or bi guy doesnt like masculine men. you a fucking latino self-identifed femboy, its in the culture for the feminine partner to want a masc partner to do all the work, and we like it that way, so why so conflicted?

just listen to your heart, be upfront, and filter out DL trash
btw im sure you know but theres a lot of gay masculine/str8 passing guys out there these days who arent fucking DL so you have a lot of options you just wouldnt guess by seeing them, finally our people can be regressive, religious, homophobic retards AND live their gay faggot mexican life i love 2025

Also stop dating white dudes femboycito you are doin yourself a disservice, guarantee youd be happier and less conflicted if you dated somebpit viper wearing construction paisa

>>40595847
eeeeeeewwwwwwww
those aren't men