what's your best AND worst facial attributes tranny, and could you pass with FFS?

i'll start:
-small brow bone, it's there and in most women it's nonexistent, but mine is at least somewhat unnoticeable
-large cheeks and cheekbones
-small philtrum
-large lips
-weak jawline
-round face
-doe eyes

and then the bad ones:
-weak jawline (ugly overbite)
-squarish face and jaw
-big bulbous hooked nose
-long face (even worse cause receeded chin)

overall i'd say if these traits got fixed id pass 10/10 but ffs/jaw surgery is only next year

>>40595557 (OP)
bad:
huge skull
huge jaw
huge nose
weird lips
wide face
not white
good:
midface ratio (a total meme btw)
could you pass with ffs:
no

also 32in underbust and 17in bideltoid are terrible

>>40595605
>32in underbust and 17in bideltoid are terrible
no they’re not

>>40595974
They def are I have those measurements and look like a giant man

>>40595557 (OP)
for me

good:
-nothing

bad:
-everything

>>40595557 (OP)
good:
>big eyes
>positive canthal tilt
>relatively full cheeks
>short midface (1:1)
>long eyelashes
>not deep set eyes
bad:
>long chin
>masculine jaw
>rather prominent brow ridge
I think FFS could work for me though, sad I will never afford it

>>40595557 (OP)
good: i have nice cheekbones, skin is gorgeous, and am attractive
bad: im attractive in the androgynous man kinda way. my jaw is super defined and masculine, my face is long and square, my head is so big, my adams apple is huge.

ive already had super severe ffs and this is after that so i dont think theres hope for me lol

i know my skull is giant, always has been, and i feel like my browbone sucks. my eyes are also small and deep set. i’ve been told my midface and philtrum are also bad. but my nose is pretty small and i don’t think the full picture looks terrible

>>40595557 (OP)
good:
>small midface
>short philtrum
>upturned pointy nose
>generally roundish soft face shape
eh:
>browbone, slightly pronounced but not neanderthal-like, would probably look fine with tranny bangs
>jaw is definitely not feminine but is also not square, it's angular in a way that it would probably be kinda hot in a twinkhon "model" way if everything below this point got fixed
bad:
>ugly bumpy nose with deviated septum
>vile asymmetrical crooked chin, slightly receded and has a bit of a cleft too, biggest insecurity i've had throughout my whole life
>horrible receded hairline and big forehead
>hooded eyes with low eyebrows

i plan on getting my chin and nose fixed, and coupled with tranny bangs which would hide my hairline and potentially my browbone i would probably pass. i already malefail pretty often and when i don't i get told i look much younger than i am (mid 20s but get asked for id). might get a type 3 and a hairline lowering or something when i can actually afford it in the future but i trust in bangs to save me in the meantime
also those measurements are kinda bad, like they're almost my measurements but I'm legitimately a brick with no curves and huge shoulders

>>40595557 (OP)
17 inch bideltoid is big lmao

>>40595557 (OP)
I have good facial harmony but none of my features realistically should pass (long face, strong square jaw, big chin, high defined cheekbones, hook nose, very weird hairline, etc.) and I end up looking a bit alien yet still I guess attractive. It ends up with people near enough agreeing I pass or mostly pass online but irl things are just too uncanny I guess and people can be really horrible clocking me at an instant. I’m really content with how I look despite this and would like to avoid surgery as much as possible but I’d definitely pass with FFS if things reached the point I’d think it’s required.

>>40595557 (OP)
5'8 is neverpasser height thoughbeit

>>40598692
Are you mentally ill ? I'm a 5'10 cis woman and my aunts and mother are all above 5'8. I see 6' cis women at least once a day.

>>40595557 (OP)
i am person on the right but self aware. agony

>>40595557 (OP)
good:
>no brow bone
>prominent cheekbones
>long eyelashes
>large lips
>weak jawline
>straight blonde hair
bad:
>large forehead
>prominent nose
>gap teeth
>rough sandpaper skin
>old (32)

>>40595993
You're stupid

>>40599815
can you groom me

>>40598692
my mom’s 5’7

>>40595557 (OP)
best: everything
worst: nothing
i passed before i even got hrt

>>40595557 (OP)
good:
>oval face shape
>very small brow ridge
>no nasolabial folds
bad:
>long midface
>long philtrum
>5head
>big nose
I think i could pass with FFS

>>40598795
yeah sane lmao im 5'11 and i see women taller than me litrrally every day, usually multiple per day, and there is no chance they are all passoid tranners. people worm about height way too much

>>40601662
That anon is crazy but where do you live that that's the case? I'm 5'9 and i very rarely see women above my height
t. eastern europe

>>40601600
Your mom is female

It's too many BEEP BEEP BEEP IS THAT MALE BEEP BEEP BEEP alerts when the tranny is a huge fucker, too many wrong things at once

>>40595557 (OP)
Good:
big hazel eyes :)
nonhooded too :))
long eyelashes
generally good skin :D

Bad:
Long bulbous hooked nose
Long philtrum
Big and squarey chin
Defined jawline :(
LONG face :((
Slightly prominent browbone
Facial hair EVERYWHERE (mostly tiny invisible ones but still ugly annoying hate hate hate)
Slightlyish receded hairline
God’s pointiest adam’s apple

Honestly it’s not going to work out, this stuff is either unfixable or I’ll never be able to afford the cost for fixing it. Anyways, I probs won’t pass even with ffs -_-

>>40599828
no I have eyes
>>40601662
I see tall women too but they don’t have a massive 32in underbust and 17in bideltoid

>>40595557 (OP)
Wait isn't 32inches big af? This is literally my underbust and I feel like I have a barrel chest

>>40601877
NTA but I'm 5'9", live in Sweden, literally like a third of women are taller than I am it's wild. I'm like average.

>>40602417
17in bideltoid is almost impossible in adult males

>>40602439
Everyone needs to stop with 32" underbust being big
Its literally avg, or 1.5 SDs over median for healthy <24 bmi women. If you can cinch your tape without too much effort down to 28" underbust, then you are just fat or still have some male fat there and need to loose weight. Best go down to 19 bmi or smth
Its also lack of breasts and the lower body not being big enough that makes that underbust feel huge

>t. have 2 sisters, 1 taller and one shorter and both have the same underbust 31" and totally look FINE

>>40602534
>If you can cinch your tape without too much effort down to 28" underbust
I definitely can't lmao, unless there's fat hidden under my ribs but I'm 22BMI so not even fat...
And I'm 5'9"1/2 fwiw
I have big hips and big tits though

>>40595557 (OP)
face:
CHOPPED BEYOND REPAIR
- long philtrum
- ginormous brow
- mpb onset (norwood 1.5)
- \_/ kinda jaw
- hooded eyes
- small upper lip
- semiprominent high cheekbones
- low nasal radix
- crimson chin
+ somewhat short midface
+ ig my nose isn't huge

body:
- 5'10
- 17" bidelt
- 26" waist
- 31" ub
- 35" hips

yeah it's over.