nobody
not a single soul on this entire board has a proper fagcent (fem gay voice)
you are ALL 100% AGP
prove me wrong on vocaroo - but u won't
it's gonna be the same parade of nerdy straight male voices and robotic synthetic faux-female voices
no warmth, no emotion, no richness of tone, no expressiveness
just cold clinical AGP shit

idk this is my try. ESL, gay but I did fall in love once with a girl when I was five. My first (obviously non-reciprocated) crush was my sister's best boy friend when I was 4.

I am currently doing DIY. I dislike seeing myself getting masculinized in my mirror and also because I for some reason overwhelmingly prefer straight or bi men more commonly. Gay dudes also don't seem to be interested in me

https://voca.ro/1aXs6jkIjNdx

>>40600848 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1jXOtddACTrU
Love this

>>40602110
agp
>>40604089
agp

>>40600848 (OP)
>not a single soul on this entire board has a proper fagcent (fem gay voice)
Why would I want that?

>>40605765
ur agp

>>40605909
What does that claim have to do with why someone would want a "fagcent"?

>>40605917
fagcent displays native, immutable femininity
agp is just a male forcing a high pitch

>>40605925
>fagcent displays native, immutable femininity
No it doesn't

>>40605938
yeah it does, you just don't have it cuz ur a nerdy autistic male

>>40605954
No it doesn't, you're just inventing the whole thing to make girls with passing voices self-conscious

>>40605971
>>40605938
>>40605917
Carina you must be one of the more delusional trips on here.

A lot of gay dudes have natural gay voice. They can't help it. AGPs don't have this. The difference is stark unless you do a shit ton of voice training.

But more importantly, the straight male socialization always shines through. The brain is plastic but not that plastic

>>40606198
>A lot of gay dudes have natural gay voice.
I am not a man, I don't want to sound like a man, including a gay one.

There is NO value to "fagcent" and you are only inventing it wholesale to make girls with passing voice self-conscious

>>40606295
Yes, I know you strongly feel like a wombyn so you are one

The value to fagcent is that it's much easier for a guy with fagcent to transition and have a passing woman's voice. Because it's already naturally feminine

But even then u can usually tell the AGPs and HSTS apart based on voice

>>40606539
>The value to fagcent is that it's much easier for a guy with fagcent to transition and have a passing woman's voice. Because it's already naturally feminine
No it's not.

>But even then u can usually tell the AGPs and HSTS apart based on voice
No you can't

>>40604089
how did you get this voice fuck you voicepasser

>>40606295
Ur so agp!

>>40606637
You're inventing "fagcent" wholesale to make women with passing voice self-conscious.

>>40600848 (OP)
i have a cold rn
https://voca.ro/12bcrF3SPQtq
how am i doing

>>40600848 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1kNg2DDKaklj
what do you think op

>>40606666
You lack innate femininity.

>>40606766
No I don't

>>40606681
>>40606705
both agp

>>40606776
Yes you do! You are delusional!

>>40606781
Look, even the posts in this thread are proving your wrong.

>>40604089 which you called agp here >>40605753 gets called passing here >>40606604

>>40606798
No I don't! You are delusional!

Beep boop, I am a robot.
https://voca.ro/1mOw0LCgmtyV

>>40606781
but anon i dont have a robotic synthetic faux female voice, and i definitely dont sound like a nerdy straight guy. my voice gets me called a faggot!

>>40606824
Obviously autogynephilic from three seconds in.

>>40606823
AGPs can pass Carina. AGPs aren't """invalid""". I know how much y'all care about being "valid"

True trans doesn't exist. HSTS have this massive superiority complex because they have an easier time conforming, but they usually act like catty gays and love tricking straight men

Here's the difference:

HSTS are naturally feminine and homosexual. They cannot help but be feminine

AGPs are not naturally feminine but are alienated from masculinity / don't fit in as men, and then the AGP drives you in the other direction.

You don't even have to call it 'AGP' if you want, Julia Serano calls them "female embodiment fantasies" (lmfao) but it's undeniable there's a cultural and material divide between trans women who used to be gay males and those who were straight/bi (the "doll/programmer" divide)

>>40606838
Big stinky you are.

Can I get everyone here to say:
chittenango

>>40606876
i don't think that's very "obvious"
where do i fit in as a straight tranny who transitioned at 16 but tried to pass as a straight acting guy before that due to homophobic bullying in middle school? i have mostly nerdy male hobbies and hang out with mostly nerdy men, and i transitioned due to lifelong dysphoria and not to jerk off

>>40606829
Don't listen to him, this thread only exists solely so he can make trans girls self-conscious with unfalsifiable bullshit. He has given ZERO (0) concrete qualities that 'fagcent' has or that 'agp' lacks, so he can just say that none of the voices have it.

>>40606876
>AGPs can pass Carina. AGPs aren't """invalid""". I know how much y'all care about being "valid"
Who are you quoting?

>True trans doesn't exist
Yes it does.

>HSTS have this massive superiority complex because they have an easier time conforming, but they usually act like catty gays and love tricking straight men
No they don't

>HSTS are naturally feminine and homosexual. They cannot help but be feminine
Not any more than any other trans girl

>AGPs are not naturally feminine
Yes they are.

> it's undeniable there's a cultural and material divide between trans women who used to be gay males and those who were straight/bi
No there isn't

>>40606915
If you're exclusively attracted to males, then by definition you're HSTS. Even if you didn't develop much natural femininity due to being in a really repressive environment.

But also GayGP is a thing, there are gay guys who aren't physically attracted to male bodies and it's just AGP.

Did you ever watch transformation videos or fantasize about yourself as a woman in a sexual situation? Or is your sexual attraction entirely centered on males themselves?

>>40606951
Have you ever talked to any trans women who are exclusively male-attracted? HSTS have a much easier time acknowledging the typology since "gay boy who's so gay he becomes a woman" is a lot more socially acceptable than "straight/bi man whose desire to transition is rooted in autosexuality and/or a paraphilia"

Every HSTS I talk to online and explain the typology agrees with it.

Listen: if you were a gay man before transitioning versus a straight/bi man you're going to have a different experience. This shouldn't be controversial to acknowledge, it doesn't even require acknowledging the typology. Just that straight trans women and transbians/bi trans women have different experiences

I'm quoting myself, but as usual you aren't engaging with what I'm saying. Also I didn't make the thread

>>40606956
i mean i am physically attracted to men but the specific scenario and feeling a guy's body against mine matter more. maybe i was "gaygp" but my own body was enough of a factor to prevent me from trying to have a relationship before trooning out, i didn't want to be someone's bf even if it was a guy's

>>40606986
>HSTS have a much easier time acknowledging the typology since "gay boy who's so gay he becomes a woman" is a lot more socially acceptable than "straight/bi man whose desire to transition is rooted in autosexuality and/or a paraphilia"

And this in no way supports the typology, since "group that isn't as bashed by idea more likely to accept idea" is obvious.

>Every HSTS I talk to online and explain the typology agrees with it.
No they don't

>Listen: if you were a gay man before transitioning versus a straight/bi man you're going to have a different experience.
No you aren't

>Just that straight trans women and transbians/bi trans women have different experiences
No they don't

>I'm quoting myself, but as usual you aren't engaging with what I'm saying.
You're out of you're goddamn mind if you ever expected me to engage with this unfalsifiable bullshit you're spewing.

>>40607029
the difference is that 90% of AGPs aren't actually physically attracted to men. Their body might respond to men but it's AGP. If you used a phallometer they would be visually aroused by females but not by males.

It's true that the typology isn't perfect- HSTS sometimes display AGP traits and vice versa. But the difference is HSTS actually have a better shot of forming a romantic/sexual relationship with a man that lasts since they're actually romantically/sexually attracted to men beyond them being a prop in their AGP fantasy of being a real wombyn

>>40607057
you're telling me you've never fantasized about being a woman (female) in a sexual situation?

>>40607076
>you're telling me you've never fantasized about being a woman (female) in a sexual situation?
Literally never once; my sexual fantasies are all focused on the other person.

Also, it doesn't fucking matter, because sexual fantasies aren't at all related to reason for transition and why the FUCK are we even talking about this anyway when this supposed to be about your FUCKING voice.

>>40607088
You may just be an autist then. I acknowledge there are female attracted trans women who are super autistic who aren't really AGP.

But also, most AGPs are in total denial about having AGP. I was desu

And yes, there are ALWAYS sexual factors in why someone wants to transition, whether FtM, MtF, AGP or HSTS. When you trans your gender that completely changes the way you view sex. If sex "as a woman" didn't appeal to you at all or disgusted you I doubt you'd transition

what age did you "realize" you were trans? did you have a specific moment where your "egg cracked"?

>>40607076
if you used a phallometer on me it probably wouldn't respond to men's bodies as much as it would to strong emotion lmao what a shitty measurement
>hsts have a higher chance of forming a lasting relationship with a man
i have one of those

>>40607116
maybe that's true for you on estrogen, but without HRT male sexuality is very visual and can be measured accurately with a phallometer.

>>40607114
i think you might be projecting your own high valuation of sex onto others. i thought there was a decent chance when i transitioned that id never have sex, and i was okay with that because i wanted to feel at home in my own body. i didn't have sex or watch porn pre hrt, still haven't watch porn but i have had sex and i could honestly take it or leave it. i really hate how blanchtards and freudians think everyone is constantly motivated by sex, for some people it's a very small part of our lives.
>>40607126
idk both pre and post hrt i got far more random/emotion related erections than actual arousal. maybe im asexual or something lol, because i can't really logically predict when i will be aroused by male bodies and when i wont

>>40607114
>And yes, there are ALWAYS sexual factors in why someone wants to transition
No, there aren't.

>But also, most AGPs are in total denial about having AGP.
If you're talking about HAVING agp you're not talking about the actual typology anymore

>If sex "as a woman" didn't appeal to you at all or disgusted you I doubt you'd transition
You are factually wrong. Sex is only the smallest part of our lives.

>what age did you "realize" you were trans? did you have a specific moment where your "egg cracked"?
Literally not relevant. again, why are we talking about this like it matters to your fucking voice

>>40607178
No, Freud is largely correct about sex being a large part of most people's lives and a strong subconscious psychological motivator. You're an exception, not the rule. For most people sex and relationships are an important part of their lives

>>40607194
What's even the point of responding to me if you're just gonna say "no, you're wrong" with no explanation?

And no, for most people sex/romance is a big part of their lives. People (especially males) for whom this isn't the case are the exception and are usually neurodivergent in some other way

>>40607236
>What's even the point of responding to me if you're just gonna say "no, you're wrong" with no explanation?
To derail you from spewing unfalsifiable bullshit and transphobia.

>And no, for most people sex/romance is a big part of their lives.
No it's not.

I've been told I have a fagcent but I'm just a moid. I fucking hate it though because I don't want to sound like that and I didn't think I had one.

>>40600848 (OP)
you need to be incredibly naive or an actual retard to have a fagcent and not force yourself to speak like a normal man or a normal woman

>low effort sleepy voice

https://voca ro/1et1R5Msybpr

>>40607236
hey when did i say relationships aren't important? my relationship is probably the most important thing in my life

>>40607286
okay, so if sex is an important part of that relationship and it's important in your life, doesn't that make sex important?

you say I'm projecting my high valuation of sex onto you, but you're in a sexual relationship that's important to you. sex is important to me because for me it comes along with a relationship. I want romance and sex together, not sex without romance or romance without sex.

i dont even care if i have a fagcent or not this is just a vocaroo thread to me, i love attention whoring
https://voca.ro/12bDCUa8vDqZ

>>40600848 (OP)
>not a single soul on this entire board has a proper fagcent (fem gay voice)
>prove me wrong

1. since when was having a fagcent anything more than a hsts symptom?
2. anon is surely yerking it crazy style to this

>>40606915
You arent a straight tranny you dont have a fagcent

>>40607310
idk i just don't think about it that much unless im about to have it. the romance is fare more important to me, i could be happy in a sexless romantic relationship but would kill myself in a romanceless sexual one. maybe i need to embrace tumblr demisexuality

>>40607395
Yes she does. Literally every voice in this thread does. You can't say I'm wrong unless you can give concrete qualities about what fagcent is.

>>40607395
can you post an example of a passing fagcent then please. legitimately curious because many of these trannoids sound like theyre literally biting their tongues doing their best not to sound like massive flamers but you're just dropping the AGP gavel on them regardless.

>>40607399
it's just kind of rich to say you don't value sex when you're in a romantic relationship where sex is a feature. you may not value it as much, but your partner certainly does and if you weren't physically attracted to males your relationship probably wouldn't work out.

>>40607418
fagcent doesn't even pass as a woman's. it's a uniquely male accent, but it's easier to train from a fagcent --> a genuinely female sounding voice than from a straight boy voice --> a female sounding voice

>>40607418
https://voca.ro/1lgU0cviQyoW

>>40607438
>fagcent doesn't even pass as a woman's
So why would we want it? We wouldn't.

>>40607465
You would want fagcent because it's closer to a woman's voice than a straight boys is.

>>40607474
Just go straight for woman voice and don't give two shits about it.

>>40600848 (OP)
https://voca.ro/15o19K2i3CPr

>>40607722
Oh shit dubdubs

>mfw defending tranners in this thread so I can get personalized voice notes from them
>:)

>>40607722
>Thinks this is a thread for actual voice rating
I'm so sorry sis. I'd say you're doing pretty good though for just having started.

>>40607794
Lol thanks, yeah sorry I just saw a bunch of people posting vocaroos and was like "fuck it" lol

>>40600848 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1kLmGUNJ63pT
https://voca.ro/1hP4ZvVfbRnq
>>40607794
it can be a voice rating thread if we want it to
>>40607722
its giving clocky tranner but i feel like for someone who isnt aware or sensitive to trannyvoice cues it prob passes already
>>40607319
femboy voice i can hear when u run out of breath and it drops an octave
>>40607282
so true anon

>>40608414
>Its giving clocky tranner but i feel like for someone who isnt aware or sensitive to trannyvoice cues it prob passes already

Hey I'll take that! It's already leagues better than my boy voice

>>40608414
anon u missed my voice further up the thread!!
i like ur second vocaroo, feels like ur close to an extremely sultry femvoice

i have natural beautiful fagcent

https://voca.ro/1d7BWrGEDN0U
https://voca.ro/16zFeVTVCMn2

>>40608414
Oh also sorry forgot to rate you!

You've got a very sultry voice that if you squeezed your larynx just a liiiiiiittle bit more you'd be right in range

https://voca.ro/1ltHJjA06CCt

what is a uk fagcent like

>>40607282
toob levels of agp

>>40607319
current winner of most agp voice, can anyone beat this

>>40607465
doesn't fucking sound female

>>40607722
agp

>>40608662
agp

>>40608749
closest to hsts so far I guess
not really like flaming but at least there's some actual expression going on

>>40609729
>Closest to hats so far
You just think British accents sound feminine. Guarantee if it was an American accent you'd say different lmfao

>>40609771
nothing to do with the accent or nationality

>>40609648
>guy voice doesn't sound female

You aren't very intelligent, are you?

>>40604089
Passable

>>40602110
Kinda cringe as in too nasal but ok

>>40606681
Lil clocky probably because the cold but otherwise not too bad
Maybe agp?

>>40606705
Agp tranny
>>40606824
Probably agp but chick with a deeper voice

Voice thread yay
https://voca.ro/1ln2WgJmpFEz

>>40611079
jesus that's agp

>>40611086
Fellas is getting rated as an agp as a pooner based or cringe

>>40611107
it just means you sound autistic really

>>40608540
>>40608706
https://voca.ro/1cfnU0Or4Vkb
https://voca.ro/1a2OpnMVSRP0
also >>40608540 im not sure whether ur the anon who has a cold or the anon who gets called a faggot but my gut is going towards the latter in which case u do indeed have a pretty faggy clocky voice i think its quite cute
alternatively if ur the other anon or if said anon happens to be reading this u sound very passoid core and i can imagine u being that woman voice with heavy reverb saying random catchphrases over techno tracks
>>40611079
where are u from anon ur accent sounds vaguely european but i cant quite pin it down