Why must a lot of trans women be so chaserphobic?

>>40602551 (OP)
Nobody likes gay men

>>40602563
>Nobody likes gay men
We chasers are straight though

>>40602566
Nah. Straight men don't like dicccc

>>40602551 (OP)
A lot of you come if super creepy sometimes. Not all, but enough that it's off putting.

>>40602551 (OP)
ngl those hips are ropefuel, i couldnt live with myself if my lower body looked like that i think. hopefully shes early hrt

>>40602551 (OP)
In this site? A lot of them are virgins neverkissers attracted to men but too insecure and scared, so when a man gives them attention they chicken out and cope by calling them chasers.

>>40602551 (OP)
its mostly bad experiences with overly persistent bottom chasers, AGP skinwalkers, and gross unwashed ugly guys that watched too much tranny porn, it's hard to believe there are good ones out there if those types are all you've been exposed to

>>40602609
no woman wants a gay male

cause the have women brains and don't want anyone to want them for their male attributes

>>40602551 (OP)
Because theyre annoying and shit up the board

>>40602551 (OP)
i'm not but they also mostly ignore me cuz i'm an uggo

>>40602602
wdym, she's very cute and pretty. Only a woman would stress over a minor detail a man would never even notice in the pursuit of sex

>>40602602
kys luckshit i hate you

>>40602551 (OP)
1. They talk about my dick waaay too much. I don't care if you like it inside your head or just want to touch it but I hate to be reminded of it, it makes it uncomfortable to be with you if you constantly bring it up.

2. They try to prevent me or talk me out of getting srs. It feels really icky when someone tries to tell me what I should do with my own body. I fought so hard to change my body to the way it is now and you're just another person telling me it's not right to do that. I hate those people.

If chasers stopped doing these two things I would get along with them very happily

because chasers do not believe they are women and invalidate their identities in their objectification of them.

>>40602602
if i looked like op i would have such a massive ego. i'd be such a narcissist it'd be crazy.

>>40602602
>ropefuel
I have the same hips as her and I'm a cis woman, are you retarded ?

>>40602566
You keep saying this like it's going to change something

>>40602590
That's because "creepy" just means being amab and attracted to someone who considers you to be insufficiently attractive to be allowed to be attracted to them

>>40602551 (OP)
because chasers are foul vermin

>>40604411
This board is so weird because I've dated trans women and literally never brought up the dick and they can't stop talking about dicks and sending me lewds, I'm supposedly the sex pervert who doesn't know what's inappropriate and yet I'm the one uncomfortable with constant dick dick dick my dick did you know I have a dick hey I bet you want to see my dick

>>40602602
Kill yourself tripfag

>>40604431
She is mid as fuck

>>40602551 (OP)
some of you are creepy but i like the others

>>40604430
What if I think they're weird in-betweens but can act and present very feminine?

>>40604411
I am an srs chaser and will literally never interact with your dick, hi

>>40604556
You seem really cute :)

>>40604596
im probably not but thanks anon, heres the pochita magnet i got today

>>40604474
hm maybe they thought you would like it or felt like they had to show it? I cannot understand that behavior, sry anon. Of all the lewds I have on my phone it's like multiple pics of my butt, hips, legs, boobs but only one that has dick. I make a conscious effort to keep it out of the pics and cannot imagine asking for it to be commented on.

>>40602551 (OP)
Chasers are being naive and led on by common bpd acknowledgment of leading people on. Most of mtfs are npd transbians and will not give you any sort of worthwhile time as friends.

>>40602551 (OP)
I would commit the holocaust to look like this

>>40604634
>Most of mtfs are npd transbians and will not give you any sort of worthwhile time as friends.
TRVKE

>>40604586
not that anon but "srs chasers" are definitely the ones you should avoid the most. complete sociopaths.

>>40604634
>most mtfs are npd
This is wrong I'm bpd

>>40604586
>srs chaser
I don't get it. What kind of things make you describe yourself as a chaser then?

>>40604771
what? im a top and it’s just more convenient lol. i’ve never met another chaser who likes girls with SRS so I guess I don’t know the stigma, but I just like the feeling more idk

>>40604804
I don’t know why this always confuses people so much, I like trans girls because they usually have shared interests (video games and such) and are chiller/more sex-positive. just more enjoyable to be around and hang with in my experience, I want a partner who likes similar things as me

>>40604820
oh okay. "chaser" is usually linked closely to someone who fetishizes. At least that's the proper definition. So I wondered if you were meaning you fetishize the surgical transformation or something. Granted there is a gray area between attraction to someone's body and fetishizing their body. Where are you anyway anon, euro or NA or somewhere else?

I'm starting to see why humans locked down on "ONE MAN ONE WOMAN IS RELATIONSHIP ONLY EVERYTHING ELSE GAY AND BAD" for a while now. turns out you retards don't know what the fuck to do with actual freedom and literally lose your fucking minds. it's really getting old that the cynical viewpoint is always the correct one.

>>40604820
>>40604808
>what?
>I like trans girls because they usually have shared interests (video games and such) and are chiller/more sex-positive
There are infinitely more chill, sex positive, video game playing ciswomen than there are transwomen. There are probably more ciswomen that can reasonably be described that way than the entire subcategory of transwomen.

That is why the "srs chaser" is the most dangerous snake of them all. There is no reason to specifically desire a post-op transwoman. They are just women at that point. To fetishize the pre-op transwoman makes sense, that chaser can cleanly be sorted into one of three categories :

>openly bisexual
>closet homosexual
>egg

The post-op chaser is typically however an abuser who believes that transwomen are more malleable and easy to control. Less likely to leave them for a higher status male.

>>40604867
oh sure, I just use chaser to mean “I am particularly attracted to trans women”, not as a fetishization thing, but I know those lines are blurred. I’m NA

>>40602602
if she gains a bit of weight she'd be fine, you're catastrophizing

>>40604870
>>40604883
correction, you know one thing to do in the face of impossible levels of freedom: immediately begin the act of rigorous classification and reduction of others in whatever manner possible to calm those crazy neurons. the way you all conduct yourselves is insanely self defeating.

>>40604800
bpds are very rarely only bpd, trauma or circumstances give plethora of disorders so they always come in bunches of npd aspd hpd not only bpd

>>40604883
>There are infinitely more chill, sex positive, video game playing ciswomen than there are transwomen.
yes, and I also date them.

>There is no reason to specifically desire a post-op transwoman. They are just women at that point.
yes, and I am attracted to women.

> The post-op chaser is typically however an abuser who believes that transwomen are more malleable and easy to control.
I do not like bland, dependent, self-hating trans women. I like when they have confidence and a genuine personality (usually farther in their transition but not necessarily)

>>40604622
This is adorable! What’s your asl?

>>40604883
The mere concept of "sexual reassignment surgery" is hilarious.

A.) It's not a vagina, it's a filleted sock of inside penis
B.) Your sex is not defined by your "neovagina" / transgina
C.) There are other male attributes to your body and mind that can't be destroyed with genital surgery

Female != penis origami
Female = oocyte baby that grows into ova adult
Woman != AMaB on hormones
Woman = adult AFaB

>>40604926
18 and a half, mtf tranner so f i guess, i live in wisconsin i like the cheese

>>40604966
Yummy! Can you send me some?

>>40604966
are you cute?

>>40604978
sure , i like colby jack, mozzarella, and parmesan
>>40604987
idk

>>40604914
Women with srs tend to be more mentally healthy ime but that could just be a function of being later in transition. Anyway I'm in the US anon but I'm only slowly saving for srs I don't have it yet. Maybe one day. What do you mean by sex positive tho? I don't want to be in a poly relationship sry

>>40605007
post unsee

>>40605010
by sex positive I just mean having sex more and being more open to kinks or rough sex and such. obviously not an excess amount, just less prudish

>>40605010
It means, generally, "avoiding assigning negative attributes or qualities to sex, such as viewing sex as a power dynamic or negotiating to be used or acknowledging sex as shameful or other ego damaging unnecessary societally imposed aspects of sexual intercourse." But the way you have interpreted it is probably a common interpretation too because despite being obsessed with rigorous classification most gay people are still too retarded to be good at rigorous classification and keeping up with it.

>>40605029
sorry id rather kill myself

>>40605007
Discord?

>>40602551 (OP)
i like chasers - im biased toward someone attracted to trans women without deferring to stereotypes - but some can definitely be creepy. i kind of like that too the kind of extremely forward almost autistic flirting style is really appealing to me cause im a touch starved loser
its really easy to be creeped out by it though.

>>40602551 (OP)
because chasers rarely offer anything beyond easily gotten half hearted validation because chasers are often somehow the most boring people fathomable holding no interests or ideas or hobbies chasers act like the shitty boyfriend that gets replaced at the start of a romcom

>>40605118
carpet.garden is mine

>>40605123
:) are you cute?

>>40604883
>>40604914
Fellow "snake" here, I also like srs trans women because they SEEM somewhat more stable but often they just mask it under layers of being a passoid, if someone doesn't have an appearance that perfectly conforms to gender expectations it's tempting to pathologize any personality quirks, this is a self-reinforcing cycle so clocky trans women get weirder and weirder in that one particular way, while being fully aware of how weird they are, and if they manage to reach full passing status they are just "weird women" and not "trans women with mental illness", please don't confuse my description of reality for a normative statement, of course everyone should be treated as an individual, but that's not what happens to people in real life. It's kind of like how if you make a mistake on the job and you're not white, it's because you're a "DEI hire", and if you make a mistake on the job and you're white, you're just human and everyone makes mistakes

>>40605137
FFXIV is not a hobby and complaining about being fetishized is not a personality

>>40605051
Well, females are trained through girlhood and womanhood that sex is risky

Your man-fucking trannies grew up with boy socialization and weren't exactly taught to fear penises and all the yummy sperm. So, yes, they're pretty pozzzzitive.

>>40605200
I have actual hobbies anon and being fetishized is fine I fetishize men so they get to do it back

>>40605230
>I fetishize men so they get to do it back
BASED
what are your hobbies?

>>40605051
oh okay. I sort of feel like I am more prudish than other women. I don't have sex with women though so I've just picked up that impression from cultural osmosis. But being open to those things seems like a low bar to clear.
>>40605059
but then this seems pretty common with trannies

>>40602551 (OP)
As a man who does not identify as a chaser but happens to have a tranny gf for a while I think it comes down to a few reasons:
1. Commonality: a decent amount of people simply have a need for others to understand their burden and for trannies, only other trannies can get it on some level
2. Fetishization: chasers just generally tend to be really weird and treat trannies less as humans but more as sex tools/objects, some trannies might even like this but I'd wager most with self respect get repulsed by it
3. Doubt and low self esteem: there are trannies who simply have such a terrible case of imposter syndrome and body image troubles that they simply cannot believe that other can view them as women and barricade themselves from dating or romantic experiences in fear of getting their feelings crushed
4. Hatred for the males be it out of past experiences or for other reasons: self explanatory
5. Misc.: be it looks, money etc

>>40605247
what area of the US are you in? general region

>>40605230
Oh ok well in that case cool. I enjoy being fetishized very much.

>>40605244
I paint, read and write really shitty poetry sometimes
I watch shitty slashers and play retro Vidya but those are like default tranny traits
sometimes I make weird little puppets and trinkets out of clay

>>40605337
show your weird little puppets and trinkets, that sounds awesome

>>40605170
i don't consider myself cute because of course i dont but others have!

>>40605351
I made this fake mutated bird skull with 4 eyes and put it into a jar of mystery fluid once

>>40605405
that works! asl?

>>40605428
this is so strange and now i’m suddenly interested in you

>>40605438
sorry anon I'm intensely and violently mentally ill too much so to bother pursuing a friendship or relationship with
if me making puppets with dead animal bones inside them wasn't enough of an indicator
if I didn't mention that the puppet sometimes have bones in them I find them in the woods and stuff

>>40602551 (OP)
I just want a trans gf to love

>>40605261
south east US. I'll probably have to move one day tho

>>40605488
>intensely and violently mentally ill
need you, what’s your discord

>>40605498
how old are you?

>>40605431
uhm. 22 mtf ontario canada

>>40605506
keke no we'll talk for a week at most and then I'll abandon you just and just reinforce all the negative thoughts in your head and making you worse off than you started

>>40605579
just. don’t abandon me?

>>40605579
wow I really fucked typing this one up motherfucker

keke no we'll talk for a week at most and then I'll abandon you just reinforcing all the negative thoughts and predispositions in your head making you worse off than you started

>>40605512
27. I've been transitioned since i was 19 tho

>>40605702
are you into younger guys?

>>40605730
well probably only someone who was a few years younger not someone under 22 sorry anon

>>40602551 (OP)
95% of chasers are just gay incels. ugly, fat, short, bald, unfuckable fetishist predators

>>40606065
fat ugly transbian hands typed this post

>>40606065
that's just female socializing only 5% of men exist speaking

>>40606065
What's funny about this definition is that it's infinitely subjective, I could post a picture showing what I actually look like and you'd be like "oh yeah? well you're on 4chan so..."

The reality of the situation is that men, in fact, are not that attractive, but your meta-attraction requires that you pick the kind of man that you think androphiles would be attracted to, because it projects the image you want to project.

>>40606164
I think that dating apps are just such a terrible system for straight dating. Women get to perceive having infinite choice but never develop the emotional connection needed for them to "feel" attracted. That's how you get this skew.

>>40606134
>>40606146
>>40606164
>instantly get 3 seething replies from undesirable mentally ill men (chasers)
it's a good thing there's real men out there so we don't have to put up with your shit <3

>>40606202
That doesn't explain it though, the men also have the same infinite choice but their bell curve is a bell curve. The women have a bell curve too, but here's the thing: the app is making people rate each other based on visuals alone, and men score by visuals above all else. Whereas women score by a whole set of non-visual criteria, like how they speak, or how much money they have. That's why when they get into the femcels vs incels internet wars, they'll be like "actually I would totally date a manlet and it's just an attitude problem". They're lying, as women do, we know they wouldn't really prefer the manlet, but what they're saying is a man's "attitude" (or what the IRS calls a "gross annual income") carries some weight, and can be enough to overcome one or two disadvantages in another area. Whence those charts that show how if a guy gets a $50k boost to his income it's worth a half centimeter in height, or something, I forgot the exact numbers.

Going back to the okcupid example, the women are judging the men the way a taste tester would perform with a sinus infection, everything is just "off" and their choices don't reflect how they would sort the same set of men in real life, because they don't have access to critical pieces of information. That's why it doesn't look like a bell curve, and it's also why women get so evasive and vague when you ask them to show a concrete example of an "attractive male". Thinking about the real criteria makes them face a truth about themselves that perhaps they'd rather not say out loud even though it's understood by everyone already. They feel it would be conceding an argument to the incels, whereas the incels probably would say it's not even a thing to be argued about because it's a fundamental truth.

>>40602602
if i woke up with hips like dat i would rope too tbdesu
t. passoid

>>40606687
>passoid
post unsee

>>40604808
>i’ve never met another chaser who likes girls with SRS
Because SRSoids are the worst of both worlds. All the downsides of both cis women and trans women without any of their upsides.

>>40606538
No, no. That can't be true.
A WOMAN is speaking and men that don't get sex deserve it!!!

>>40609052
you forgot the upside that is not having you in my dating pool

>>40609052
>all the downsides of cis women
a... vagina?

>>40604771
I find it odd how trans women fetishize sociopathic traits like racism and chuddery and then turn around and get upset when the sociopaths they date turn out to be sociopaths

t. onions cuck beta who gives you the ick because I don't use the n-word to describe black people

>>40604914
>yes, and I also date them.
Then you are not a "chaser".

A chaser is someone is specifically seeking a transwoman. Perhaps they specifically seek them due to a fetish, perhaps they genuinely want a relationship. But the defining factor is that they WANT a transwoman more than anything else.

It sounds like you are just passively accepting of the srsussy which is a totally different thing.

>>40604907
>waaah human beings make imperfect generalizations because reality is complicated
No shit sherlock

>>40610216
It's a transgina
It's made out of male parts and it's icky

>>40610268
I think people who refuse to say nigger in any capacity are actually more sociopathic, perhaps narcissistic is more accurate?

It's purely performative to care about that word so much. You do not have genuine thoughts or opinions on the matter you are just mirroring what other people tell you to think.

I suppose it's up to the individual whether they avoid the word to blend in (sociopathic trait) or doing it to ensure everyone likes them (narcissistic). But it would definitely be more empathetic to look a black man in the eye and tell him you see him as a human by calling him a nigger.

>>40610661
i dont think its that deep for most people, like it's just something you don't say in the same way you don't threaten people or make sexual comments about strangers.
and if blending in is "sociopathic" (it's not - sociopathy is not caring about values and just wanting to socially maneuver people) then everyone would be sociopathic, 99.9% of people want to blend into and participate in society in most situations

>>40610578
I am on /lgbt/ seeking out trans women lol, I am certainly a chaser