LMAOOOOO SHE KNOWS THE TRUTH ABOUT TRANSBIANS

>>40603426 (OP)
Lmfao JKR really called HSTS valid.
Slowly she's having to come back to sanity.

Although if she's convinced we're men, then am I not androphilic since I'm only into other transfems?

>rich person spends every waking second seething and we're supposed to be angry about it

>>40603495
This, if I were rich and that old I'd spend every single second doing cool shit instead of fighting with Twitter transgirls.

>>40603908
yes I'm sure someone who spends their limited time on this earth browsing 4chan would be living the high life if only they had money

>>40603495
>Cross-dressing incel spends every waking second seething because lesbos won't get on his dick

>>40603441
Her entire sexual ideology that comes under scrutiny is that men/males/xy people/hulking hons need to be excluded absolutely from women's spaces. It isn't a revelation that she doesn't blindly hate trans-identified males. She just wants them to recognize they are in fact males who like emulating femininity and that they have no right to women's exclusive spaces.

>>40603495
As a woman (female) I'm happy that someone powerful is standing up for our rights and men thinking they can decide what it means to be a woman and where they can go or not.

>>40603426 (OP) >>40603441 >>40603495 >>40603908
Who is JK Rowling's literary agent, Neil Blair?
https://www.mintpressnews.com/j-k-rowlings-books-and-films-full-of-antisemitic-stereotypes/279406/
>A driving force behind Culture of Coexistence’s foundation was Rowling’s literary agent Neil Blair. Formerly Warner Bros’ Head of Business Affairs for Europe, Blair plays an outsized role in Rowling’s personal and professional life. He serves as the director of Pottermore Ltd. (Rowling’s digital publishing, e-commerce, news and entertainment empire) and also is the chairman of Brontë Film and Television, a company founded to develop and produce TV and movie versions of Rowling’s books, such as “The Casual Vacancy” and the “Cormoran Strike” mystery series. In addition to this, he is the chairman of her children’s charity, Lumos.
>Blair is also an ambassador for The Abraham Initiatives, a similar group that promotes cultural connections between Israel and the West, as well as the vague idea of “coexistence” between Israeli Jews and the Arab community. According to the organization’s most recent annual report for the British Charities Commission, The Abraham Initiatives’ “mission” is to advance “synergy between Israeli bodies, individuals, initiatives and programs with respective agencies and institutions in the U.K.” Which Israeli bodies do they mean specifically is left unstated, yet many are highly suspicious of the group, suggesting that its purpose is to produce soporific statements about dialogue, hope and change, trapping Palestinians into endless cycles of negotiation and discouraging them from taking any useful action, all while painting a veneer over the decades-long occupation.
Is that interesting?

>>40603426 (OP)
she knows that most transbians are prison gay for other mtfs?

>>40604048
Not what my girlfriend said.
(trans women are women.)

>>40604064
Nice religion, too bad it's delusional and following a murderous Zionist who refused to say anything about Gaza for 2 years straight despite condemning October 7.

>>40604095
I didn't ask to see your porn material sir

>>40604109
I'm not religious. But I will support women speaking out against men with fetishes thinking they can redefine or comprehend what it means to be a woman because it gets his peepee hard or he likes wearing dresses and looking at yuri porn.

>>40604063
>>40604120
>>40604131
Every thread about JK Rowling should start with a single question:
"Why did she speak up when a Harry Potter fan in Israel was kidnapped, but not when the ones in Gaza were brutally slaughtered?"
It has been nearly two years since that began. Why hasn't she said anything?

"Virtually no independent foreign journalists have been allowed to report firsthand from Gaza — unescorted by the Israeli army. When this war is over and Gaza is saturated with international reporters and photographers free to roam, the level of death and destruction is going to be fully reported and pictured — and that is going to be a very bad time for Israel and world Jewry."
— Thomas L. Friedman, New York Times, 5/27/2025.

Second question: who is her literary agent Neil Blair, what relationship does he have to the Israeli government, and why is his Twitter feed full-on hasbara propaganda?

>>40603441
HSTS are homophobic gay men!

>>40604137
>Why did she speak up when a Harry Potter fan in Israel was kidnapped, but not when the ones in Gaza were brutally slaughtered?
Because she is on the right side of history, Trannyhammed.

>>40603426 (OP)
Wow i really thought y'all were over blowing the amount she just obsesses over us. I figured she was busy being rich and u all were just over zealous pussies

>>40603426 (OP)
Transbian are absolutely unhinged. The drama of (cis) lesgen doesn't compare to what happens in the MTF thread. Constant cheating, poly slutting, nudes and oversexual behaviour.

>>40604164
>woman stands up against m*n trying to force themselves into our places and tell women what a woman is
>OMGGG SHES OBSESSSSEED SHEEES SEEETHING RENTFREE

Rofl.

>>40604064
L O N D O N

>>40603441
>androphilic trans-identified men
>valid
husstards stop being absolute cuckolds to conservatives challenege

>>40604153
trvke

Trannies are straight up predators. Men who "crossdress" (nonsense word because clothes don't have a sex) are acceptable, femboys/transfem people (cross-sex hormone treatment users) who accept they are men are acceptable. If you know what you are and dont attempt infiltration, you aren't a predator. But trannies are predators.

>>40604251
even the hsts are predators.

>>40603426 (OP)
why would straight trans women be in a lesbian group?

>>40604265
Because transwomen who are straight are attracted to females.

>>40604261
But their prey are closeted gay men, so no one really cares.

>>40604323
true but people should because closeted, straight acting gay men actually have institutional power and are a huge base for trans rights which the perverts who prey on women piggyback on.
all this because gay men are discriminated against so whatever, straggots get their just deserts.

>>40604180
marry me

>>40603426 (OP)
>>40603441
HSTS are men just like transbians.
They can still hurt women in other ways.

>>40603426 (OP)
Rowling's trans fetish is out of hand. If you left a transgender child around her for too long she would 100% prey upon them. I don't know if she even realizes how demented she's become or if it's part of her fixation. Clearly she needed an acceptable target to swing oligarch money at, it's not surprising she picked a subset of queer women who lack legal protections.

>>40604647
>women caring about female rights and men not redefining what it means to be woman
>OMG U HAVE A FETISH!!! FREAK!!!

Yeah, makes perfect sense buddy.

>>40603441
i've been with over 10 people this summer already. mostly dudes.

>>40603426 (OP)
this trash (and the post it made, too) are way pickmes and bl*nchardism cannot be tolerated, stop pushing pseud shit being cited to take away your rights

>>40603495
Well look she spends millions of dollars and all her waking hours fantasizing & ranting about how much she just looooves to "protect" women by sexually harassing queers.

If you don't get upset about that in a way that lets her continue her narcissist myth-making, say for instance you point out that she's mentally unbalanced from wealth hoarding or that she behaves like a sexual predator; then what was the point of that?

Are you really expecting her to just accept that even with the total support of the world's parasitic aristocracy she only managed to harm people, encouraged rape & barely slowing down queer liberty temporarily? What is Rowling to do, accept that her contribution to culture was a mediocre series carried by scholastic book fairs, the 90s literacy bump & movie makers who know despise her?

If she did that she wouldn't get to be her myth of herself anymore. She'd just be another rapidly declining autocrat circling the psychological drain, unable to get help because she's insulated & chained by her wealth. No one around a billionaire cares for the host body anybody, they're around for the money.

Rowling will be dead soon & before that she's liable to suffer some kind of continued neurological decline thanks to her internet addiction & billions. Would you really want to be honest with yourself in her shoes? I wouldn't. I'd pound wine and then go whine.

>>40604671
>stalking trans women
>archiving photos of trans women
>fantasizing about women strangers being trans women
>constantly talking about trans women's penises
>negging trans women
>happily & knowingly putting trans women in position to get raped
>forming communities to do the above with peers

Its a fucking fetish, and not a harmless self-conscious one either. This is a repressed sexuality expressing itself in predatory ways as enabled by her billions. All oligarchs are money junkies, you can't expect them to have self control. Rowling lost the plot & now like so many other bitter creeps unable to accept themselves & the world, Rowling demands that we all accede to her perverted fantasies. No thanks.

>>40604406
>because closeted, straight acting gay men actually have institutional power
did you really just imply JD Vance is straight acting?

>>40604156
imagine posting this meme in prewar pol

>>40604757
lol i was thinking more like mbappe who was publicly with an hsts
JD Vance passes as straight to normies. his repper supporters probably recognize that he's a repper and respect him more for it

>>40604796
>JD Vance passes as straight to normies
I heard ten seconds of his voice and detected a fagcent. Even pol knows subconsciously that he's gay hence the memes about him.
>repper
he's gay, trannies don't exist

>>40604747
>people who spoke out against racism and slavery were "obsessed and stalkers"
Same logic. Totally braindead.

>>40604806
pol isn't normie but yeah, i agree that people can sense it subconsciously. but they probably respect that he's comphet

>>40604813
>but they probably respect that he's comphet
and that's what's so wild even the most OBVIOUS flamer can marry a woman and everyone will just go "oh its a feminine straight man"

>>40604807
niggers are violent subhumans

>>40604796
>JD Vance passes as straight to normies
Christ and I thought Rowling was lying to herself.

Trump & Vance are the gayest acting men in American government, maybe ever. Buchanan was a gay guy who was pretty honest about it but Trump & Vance are so, so swishy while trying to act macho. I wouldn't even call it gay desu since so many gay dudes are fit & resilient, Trump & Vance behave specifically like mean grandmas.

>>40604822
do you remember during the debate with tim walz how rw twitter when full homosexual for him lol

>>40604828
gayanon here
Trump doesn't act gay at all - I try to be fair - if you act gay I will say so but just trying to malign everyone you don't like as gay is just bog-standard homophobia
vance ACTUALLY is effeminate, Trump is just loud.
>who was pretty honest about it
no he fucking wasn't
women will DESTROY you socially if you ever admit publicly to being gay

>>40604807
Abolitionists didn't have a fetish and neither do trans allies, but you better fucking believe the slavemasters who share Rowling's oligarchic wealth & social vision were getting off to owning slaves 24/7

And quit it with the whataboutism. If you can actually prove Rowling isn't the trans fetishist she openly parades around as, do it. Otherwise leave our leftist forebears out of your filthy mouth.

>>40603495
you should be angry about misinformation being spread to incite violence and civil attacks

>>40604850
No, you're a fucking weirdo. If someone tweeted all day about slaves being mistreated and ""stalking"" (lmoa) slave masters you wouldn't call it a fetish because you AGREE with anti-slavery.

But you are pro-troonism and don't care about women's rights so you frame it as some kind of fetish to passionately speak out against it.

>>40604865
>womens rights is when genital exams

>>40604169
the overlap between the 2 gens is crazy ime, just one of them they're larping so no genuine personal drama

>>40604875
Women have the right to not being reduced to a "feeling" and the whim of men allowing them to enter themselves into every protected space.

>>40604894
stfu nigger go back

It is so fucking insane that grown, adult males with cock and balls will argue with me and other natural born females that we are actually wrong and they are women.

Absolute clown world levels reached

>>40604849
Shut the fuck up, you don't know who President Buchanan and you want to hiss at me? To defend those mincing queens? Fuck off.

I mean it anyway, gay men tend have a dignity and strength that comes from living openly and honestly against the grain. Closet cases like Trump & Vance make you wonder how badly they smell like baby powder & old lady perfume; and all for *zero* cock!

>>40604865
All I see is that you can't even defend Rowling from her own nature as a sex pest who preys specifically on trans women. She's very similar to the racists who sexually fixate on black people, not surprising given Rowling is a holocaust revionisionist now. Frankly there's not much seperating her & a slaver rapist besides opportunity & legal support, which she's spent decades now trying to generate.

>>40604828
if everyone can tell vance is gay then i'm a turbo giga flamer...

ok i just searched the gc and i and one other guy are the only ones who've clocked vance. people do call him "thiel's guy" and a plant but probably see that he has a wife and kids and then move on with their lives

>>40603426 (OP)
it does not bother me at all since as long as i have diy acess and tailand/other countries can do ffs and srs thesse hags literally cant touch u, they can mald all they want im still taking hrt and getting surgeries

I HATE NIGGERS FUCK YOU JANNIES
nothing better to do than monitor my thread and delete my post in LESS THAN A FUCKING MINUTE for saying niggers are violent
they are
black people are genetically predisposed to impulsive violence
they are homophobes - and people don't want to be around them for entirely rational reasons
"racism" is a crock of shit used to silence people speaking out against actual injustice against whites

>>40603935
I actually would be

I’d have a nice house on the water by some woods. 16 transbian brides would live with me and phone use would be strictly limited for everyone’s mental health

But since I do not have a nice house or a hareem, 4chan is my next best option

>>40604902
>All I see is that you can't even defend Rowling from her own nature as a sex pest who preys specifically on trans women. She's very similar to the racists who sexually fixate on black people, not surprising given Rowling is a holocaust revionisionist now.

Men are trying to change what "sex" means so it's all related to sex/genitals/bodies, so logically she's gonna talk about it? Lmao.

>>40604865
>Women have a right to praise Rowling, dress in Rowling approved ways, display their genitals for Rowling & to always hail Rowling as the Savior Of Feminism
>Women have the right to sic police goon squads on queer women, women have the right to sexually harass queer women, women have the right to send queer women to be raped in men's prisons & women have the right to hail Rowling who saved them from queer women
>Women have the right to be billionaires while other working women starve
Yes, I'm sure Rowling is veeeerrry interested in women's rights & liberty. She definitely isn't a dime a dozen maniac with too much money fuelling her delusions of moral authority set ablaze by her desire to harass queer women.

>>40604894
>buzzword translation : i need to know everybody's genitalia, cell status and will yell at little boys who want to play with little girls or trannies in hot dog contests because... yes

>>40604924
I've never even seen Rowling try to articulate a biological basis for her arguments. She gets as far as imagining *another* trans penis & gets too excited before running off to twitter to ERP some nonsense in front of us all. While expecting us to pretend she isn't sick in the head! Is it even surprising that more and more people recognize Rowling and her fellow predators & oligarchs as dangerous sex pests?

>>40604948
>Common sense (not schizophrenic) take: Men aren't women and shouldn't be allowed to steamroll women into submission having to accept grown ass men with COCKS in their sports, changing rooms and lesbian spaces.

>>40604942
Rowling supports, funds and helps queer women. Just not men. Where is the problem?

>>40604954
Her stating that women are females isn't biological?

>>40604948
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND SHOW ME YOUR COCK YOU PERVERT!

>>40603426 (OP)
>Straight trans women aren't lesbians
Wow no shit
>>40603441
In the TERF mind, transbians don't date each other because we know we're obviously too disgusting to date and only want cis lesbians. They don't know anything.

>>40604972
I've never seen Rowling do anything to uplift queer women and I have seen her do everything to make sure they're easy targets for sexual predators. And then I see her celebrating that on twitter. Am I supposed to just pretend I haven't noticed her principle concern in life is making sure trans women can be easily dominated & placed into public humiliation for Rowling's sick delight? Nobody has ever seen her make a biological argument against trans women either, when she guns for queer women she just lets loose a tirade of sexual fantasies often followed by her gleeful response to seeing any queer women opposing her set upon by a mob of fellow sexual harassment enthusiasts. You can't show me any evidence otherwisw. Oligarchs don't really have much in the way of ideals anyway, being money junkies, that's why you see them indulge so openly in these acts of sexual domination & harassment.

>>40603426 (OP)
Gosh, not even what, 5 years ago, that sort of talk would get you banned from Twitter, times are changing.

>>40605026
SOON ALL TRANS PERVERTS WILL BE CAGED & THEIR GENITALS EXAMINED...CLOSELY..... I VOLUNTEER AS TRANNY INSPECTOR!!!

>>40605013
She often tweets about lesbian women and supports them, their rights and GOFUNDMES/Charities.

>>40605058
me when i lie

>>40605026
The zeitgeist is shifting, a lot of content that was verboten pre-2020 is now openly discussed, memed and spread about with no repercussions.

>>40605058
Bullshit, the OP has her talking about lesbians and it instantly devolved into her imagining the lesbians were oversexed trans women that share her predatory inclinations. She couldn't go one post without jerking off to the idea of rapacious shemales and thats your idea of supporting lesbians?

Rowling supports women alright, she supports them shutting up, doing as she tells them & then making sure she gets a front row seat to the V-coding in prison!

>>40605078
thank god

>>40605078
On "both sides" as well. What's telling is that nearly the entire oligarch class is working overtime to push culture backwards, and the actual result is that human principles like liberty & equality remain firmly ingrained in people. The oligarchs did manage to con a LOT of guillible people and create the conditions to make more (see Rowling's propaganda work for the oligarchs) but they failed to make it unacceptable to stand for freedom & dignity. Antizionism is up, immigration support is up, support for ending oligarchy is up, electoral support for socialists is up, trust in community organizing over the state is up; we could go on all day. For every manufactured moron, Rowling's Retards, there's been a corresponding spike in intellectual or empathetic people uniting against them.

>>40605058
Rowling hasn't met a single lesbian she doesn't prefer to imagine with a penis yet.

>>40605006
straight trans women are larping self loathing gay men

>>40605163
>when I masturbate to my unspoken sissy feminization fantasies that is!
-JK Rowling

>>40605078
Absolutely, people used to get banned on Tiktok for insinuating transwomen were men, but now 'walk like a tranny' is a meme sound.

>>40605189
trans women are sissies with an attitude

>>40605210
>in my sexual fantasies
-Candace Owens

>>40605210
Stop gooning

>>40605219
candace owens is a house nigger

>>40605078
'Black Fatigue' going mainstream without any pushback or ban waves/content purges was when I realized the landscape was changing, no way a few years ago you could have white creators uploading compilations of black people acting crazy and them not get chased off the Internet, but now people are putting their face and real name to it, with no consequence.

>>40605243
See and that makes me think you just have weird fantasies about owning people lmfao, you two would get along well.

>>40605248
>I believe twitter is equal to real life culture

>>40605259
To be fair, not just Twitter, but Tiktok, Instagram, Youtube, Facebook, the spectrum of social media all has more and more content like that every day, when it used to cause outrage now it gets support. It's very clear the wind has changed.

>>40605275
Lmfao, no those are all just synonyms that draw from the same basic pool of users. Go outside. And how old are you? You wouldn't have seen half this trans support even 20 years ago, we've made huge gains that there is a desperate attempt to paper over. Using in no small part online propaganda among insular communities and bot campaigns.

>>40605291
But people are saying the same things in real life, too. The social mindset is shifting, it's pretty obvious to see.

>>40605259
I don't want to own niggers - I want them shipped back to Africa along with trannies.

>>40605092
>>40605073
Huh? She goes to lesbian events or speaks out about them positively.
Just because these lesbians aren't pro-trans doesn't mean they're not homosexual.

https://x.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1513246006816686093

>>40605328
I've only noticed a decrease over my life followed by an increase in statistical support as well as policy support & even elected trans officials. Yes there is a well funded campaign to turn back the clock but no it's still nothing like it used to be. This is comparable to maybe the 80s or 90s re: gay marriage. Always take the long view, we're not even a full lifetime away from when Rowling had her way and being openly trans was a one way ticket for creeps like >>40605341 to rape and possibly lynch you. Unless you're counting shit like idk Ace Ventura tier humor as transphobia, but I don't see that as a problem.

>>40605376
Huh? She goes to events with other transphobes to do their trans fetish fantasies together? Wow I guess she really does support queer women!

You're deluded! That's just a bunch of creeps congregating to get off together. And everyone knows it. Rowling only supports queer women going to men's prisons & it isn't any secret why she looooves to think about that!

>>40605387
It's definitely changing though, stuff not getting banned or deplatformed like it used to says a lot.

>>40605409
its like how grindr can't keep up with the traffic at republican conventions

>>40604064
As a woman (female) all trannies are men no matter HSTS or not.

>>40605440
Sure, but I don't mind HSTS too much. They are the least creepy and harmful. Ideally HSTS would just become a third gender like ladyboys or something.

>>40605409
>lesbians aren't lesbians and their rights aren't queer rights if they don't include transwomen
Huh.

>>40605432
Online *policy* is changing + we are in an age of mass bot campaigns

That doesn't mean the actual culture irl has changed. It also doesn't undo all of our gains. You wouldn't dream of a politician supporting us at all 20 years ago, we worked for that and earned it. Its not easily undone with fake twitter accounts or algorithmic propaganda machines, that has only slowed us down. And the oligarchs who set these machines up are dying while DIY trans care gets more accessible. The more likely outcome of all this oligarch sponsored brainrot is a continued exodus from social media as it loses all utility.

>>40605458
They're lesbians, but they didn't gather at a lesbian event they gathered at an event to fantasize about trans women and probably share strategies on how to better stalk them. Rowling only supports fellow fetishists, she's just cosmopolitan about who gets to praise her while they goon to putting queer women into men's prisons.

>>40605474
You don't fantasize about someone because you point out their predatory behavior. Are women who speak out against rapists and sexual violence in your twisted mind lusting after rape?

>>40605459
I think that's a bit overly optimistic to not see what's on the horizon.

>>40605527
You do however do that if you invent fantasies of predatory behavior, like what the slavers you mentioned previously did. These creeps get together primarily to exchange their titilating & imaginary sexual daydreams while projecting sexual intent onto their victims to make their abuses ok. Got to find some way to launder your crimes after condemning queer women to prositution in men's prisons, its called V-coding & TERFs love it. It's their primary policy position.

>>40605587
Determinism is naive and falling for enemy propaganda is worse; as a realist I fully see the continuation of our struggle and victories. Not an end to it.

>>40605686
>its called V-coding& TERFs love it.
Can someone post screenshots of troons saying they want this to happen to them?

>>40604828
I mean this ironic right? It's making fun of how HP sets up a narrative of a systemically racist and oppressive society with a compromised government and then ends with characters becoming cops and bureaucrats in that government while doing nothing to confront the underlying issues that fueled the conflict in the narrative.

>>40605821
How about you ask the rape victims of TERF policy instead of blaming women for "secretly desiring rape" you fucking misogynist freak. You guys are so demented everytime it gives me the fucking creeps.

>>40605907
I could see it either way desu, its subtle enough and there's for sure at least one millenial cop out there who was "such a Griffondor" as a young adult

>>40605821
>What you are advocating directly causes victimization and rape.
>Sorry but those rape actually victims wanted it
How is that can terfs hit an entire bingo card of incel talking points within 30 minutes of talking to them. It's so ghoulish to me, I can't even imagine how you get into the head space of telling people they deserved how they got raped.

>>40606014
It rhymes with shmisogyny........ shmisogyny shrape shapologism.....

>>40605686
>invent fantasies of predatory behavior,
Males being statistically and historically extremely prone to being female's number one predator is not an invention it's fact.

>>40606208
They don't talk about "males", they talk about trans women. They do it openly and while pushing for the state to make it easier to rape, humiliate & surveil trans women.

>>40603426 (OP)
i’m confused why either person is even bringing that up? they’re straight women, why would they want to be part of a lesbian event?

>>40606305
A transwoman is male.

>>40606478
Biologically and socially speaking trans women are trans women, and when Rowling gets her creep circle together they don't talk about "males" they talk about trans women almost exclusively. If it's not exchanging fantasies of trans women or apologizing for TERF & oligach mandated prison rape; then they're infantalizing trans men & cis women. The throughline is misogyny, sexual predation & repression fuelled authoritarianism being enabled by hoarded wealth.

>>40603426 (OP)
>saying androphilic instead of gay
lol is this the nicest thing rowling has ever said about trannies?

>>40606533
Biologically speaking a transwoman is a male no matter what. If "she" dies the bones and DNA will say man. She has a penis and balls. Putting on make up and taking hormones does not make you a woman.

Just like a white person who takes hormones to get black skin (which is a thing btw, you can google it) and wears a wig isn't a black person, but a white person pretending to be black. Their children won't have "black DNA" because they are skinwalking.

>>40606560
No, sex is determined by sexual characteristics and hormone replacement therapy alters one's sexual characteristics. Mainly the one's used for sensory sex identification such as breasts, hips & body hair. Trans women can only be said to be trans women sexually because cis men, trans men & cis women have divergent sexual characteristics. I'm also not surprised that a transphobe believes in racial science lol

>>40606611
No, your sex is determined primarily by your chromosomes. If someone kidnapped me (a ciswoman) and injected testosterone inside of my body and cut off my hair and made me wear "men clothes" I wouldn't be a man. I would be a woman who is being brutalized and forced to imitate a man.

>>40606638
>your sex is determined primarily by your chromosomes
Then is it that you don't exchange medical records before gendering others? Why is it that most people never have their chromosomes checked at all? Why does sex identification predate the concept of chromosomes?

>I would be a woman who is being brutalized and forced to imitate a man
This is what transphobes like Rowling drool over doing to trans women.

>>40606713
Because for 99,9% of history there was no "SRS/hormone injection/FFS" or turning little boys away from male puberty. This is a completely new phenomenon. Yes, transpeople have always existed but treatments to skin walk women as closely as possible did not.

>This is what transphobes like Rowling drool over doing to trans women.
No, we just want transwomen to stop injecting themselves into our spaces.
We would cheer you on to create your own gender and space. Just don't force us.

>>40606762
Wrong on multiple counts.
1. Trans care goes back a long time, from licorice root to orchiectomies to concentrating estrogen from pregnant mare urine.
2. Trans people go back to *at least* Hammurabi and independently emerged in multiple cultures.
3. Intersex people have always existed
4. Androgynous people have always existed

Sex isn't determined by chromosomes, it's influenced by them. They're one sexual characteristic among many and are not used for sensory sex identification. If they were, why don't we exchange medical records when we meet?

>own gender
Same gender, somewhat different sex, preyed upon by the same people in the same ways + transphobes. We're 1% of the population & are diffused. Socially segregation is nonsensical, economically it's massively ineffecient & statistically it leds only to increased rape for trans women.

You were trying to tell us all that trans women *want* v-coding a moment ago, now you want us to believe all your creep behavior and pro-rape policies are just a coincidence? Anyone who thinks about it for a minute realizes you creeps just have sexual desire to prey on trans women and want to reshape society to make us all go along with it.

>>40606908
Not a single thing you mentioned is comparable in intensity and success of imitating women as modern treatment. Someone taking some licorice root 1000 years and cutting of their balls is not nearly as convincing as injecting high quality hormones and getting SRS & FFS.

Completely delusional.

>Intersex people have always existed
Intersex people are not born with male chromosomes, fully functional cock and balls but also look and sound like a completely convincing female with full breasts, while also having a vagina and bone proportions.

>Androgynous people have always existed
Yes. They are not women however. 99,9% of adult andro males won't fool me IRL up close thinking I'm dealing with a woman and definitely NOT naked.

>>40604064
there are no women on this site we all know you're lying

>>40606985
>success of imitating women as modern treatment.
Its not imitation, trans care has grown to be this successful at changing sexual characteristics because of it's development from Hammurabi's age to our's.

Intersex people were born well before chromosomes were known to exist at all. How can chromosomes have identified sex if we had a notion of intersex prior to an idea of chromosomes? And again for the androgynous? Furthermore how could chromosomes have been used for sex identification at the same time that trans people such as enaree existed in society?

If chromosomes identify sex, why don't we exchange medical records when we meet?

>>40606985
If we identify sex through chromosomes, how is that you can even see somebody as "androgynous" without seeing their chromosomes?

>>40607073
It is imitation because a MALE is pretending and trying to be as close to the female reality as possible.

Imitation: a thing intended to simulate or copy something else.

>Intersex people were born well before chromosomes were known to exist at all.
Yes and "male intersex" people don't look or sound like females naked, they appear like "biological weirdos" 99% of the time.
Even when I google their pictures they all look bizarre and not just like women with male chromosomes.
Today it's different because they are able to receive treatment and surgeries.

>And again for the androgynous?
No one with a brain will believe an androgynous man is a woman IRL up close without him being on hormones or having had surgeries. Maybe horny men fall for it but they fuck corpses and animals.

>If chromosomes identify sex, why don't we exchange medical records when we meet?
Because for 99,9% of history it was clear from a glance and interaction if you are a man or woman.
It's a new thing that men have access to technology that blurs the lines and this is why women push back.

>>40606638
>me (a ciswoman)
lmao yeah sure buddy
ywnbaw

>>40607081
You can be a man who leans into feminine features or vice versa, if you reach a bit of balance or a state that might confuse people then you're androgynous.

>>40607143
Trans women aren't copying you, we are undergoing a process that is similar to puberty (all humans do this) but we do it from a divergent starting position. We change our sex by changing our sexual characteristics. Chromosomes are just one among many, and as demonstrated they aren't used for common, sensory sex identification.

Trans people have existed for a very long time, as has our care. Predating us are people with intersex conditions & androgynous features. The very idea that someone can "look like a man" implicitly acknowledges that we use sexual characteristics to determine sex. You do it too like the rest of humanity, you're just in denial over it.

Also you flip flopped again from modern trans care being wildly successful and all trans women looking male; and you continue to fixate on trans women over trans men because of your predatory nature.

I don't know who you people think you're fooling anymore, we can always tell.

>>40607152
But how is that possible if chromosomes dictate sex? There couldn't be any masculine or feminine features that scenario, sex ID would be done through chromosomes.

>>40607146
I dont care what her gender identity is, she is a transphobic jackass running cover for that creep Rowling and her fellow prison rape enthusiasts.

>>40604552
They hurt women by devaluing women just as counterfeit bills harm real money. Which is irrelevant now given the high rates of monetary inflation AND hoeflation.

>>40604552
>They can still hurt women in other ways.
> Never specifies what these ways are

At the end of the day, most trans hate from gender crits comes from a place of their own feelings of inadequacy. They've made their group identification as women central to their own personal identity, because they have such low self-esteem that they need to feel like they have some small share in the successes of other women just by virtue of sharing a sex with them. Trans women break this cope for them to a certain extent.

It's the same psychology that wignats have. They are almost all huge losers who have to identify with "le great white men of history" in order to buffer their own self-worth. The underlying feeling seems to be: "even if I am a personal failure, my genes still have greatness in them thanks to sharing a race with Isaac Newton and such".

It's pathetic and depressing.

>>40607211
>Trans women aren't copying you, we are undergoing a process that is similar to puberty (all humans do this) but we do it from a divergent starting position.

Yes, you are. If you lived on a remote island with only men you would not suddenly want to "troon out" you only start feeling like that once you watch porn or compare yourself with women in your life or online.

You want to look like us and have the same terms (she, woman, her, girl) and belong into our places.

>Trans people have existed for a very long time, as has our care.

Nothing that is remotely as effective as imitation as FFS, SRS & High quality hormone injections existed for almost all of history until very recently. Stabbing your balls or taking some herbs doesn't have the same effect.

>all trans women looking male
I never said that. But a man who is naturally androgynous but has no treatment done whatsoever won't look or sound like a natural woman up close. With proper treatment and genetics, some transwomen absolutely pass as women if you don't know better.

>But how is that possible if chromosomes dictate sex?
Chromosomes carry your DNA. The DNA develops you into a man or a woman or in rare cases intersex.

>>40607211
But this whole "looking a woman" argument is irrelevant because a lot of you believe a man is a woman the day he decides to. Even if it's a dude with a beard and his dick hanging out.

the truth about transbians is they want to suck each other's cock

>>40607578
>a lot of you believe

You aren't chatting with reddit trannies here sis.

Insofar as your desert island thought experiments and your "you want to look like 'us'" style arguments, they reek of absolute weirdness.

It's like when integration of schools was happening and you'd see angry white people saying stuff or holding up signs like "you wish you were white!" and basically saying "you'll never be white even if you go to our schools".

They totally were so wrapped up in how great they were for being white see >>40607419

that they couldn't imagine that black people wanted to go to "white" schools because they wanted to have equal opportunities in society.

The fact is, looking like a woman and living socially as a woman but being legally classified as male sets you up for a life of limited possibilities which is unfair and ultimately harms everyone since it prevents people from contributing fully to the common good.

Your framing of it as a personal attack is just a tell about your own insecurities and your own reliance on your group identity as a woman as a way of combatting your own insecurities. It's got nothing to do with troons at the end of the day.

>>40607566
If you lived on a remote island with only men or only women around you wouldn't have much of an idea of anything. Ignorance of something doesn't preclude it's existence. On an island of 1 legged men people would still be troubled by their 1 leggedness even without objective knowledge of humans being bipedal.

>some transwomen absolutely pass as women
If trans women can pass as cis women, and cis women pass as trans women, then chromosomes cannot be the sole means by which sex is determined. And if they were, we would all have had our choromsomes tested and printed on a card we exchange before greeting each other. The fact that medicine has advanced in general doesn't undermine the sex change process, it validates it. As we better understood our bodies we were better able to change them. It's the same condition and treatment (or identity & expression if you prefer, same diff) with the only difference being that our tools have improved.

>The DNA develops you into a man or a woman
Lol, no. Your DNA contains the blueprints for you developing sexual characteristics. Hormones are what cause the actual growth process. That's why HRT works at all, you have DNA in you right now that dictates what certain amounts of estrogen & testosterone would do. HRT really does work essentially down to a cellular level, but thus far we can only become trans women & trans men. A more seemless process is still on the horizon despite our strides.

>>40607578
I certainly don't, and that seems to be a very unpopular view these days that only briefly enjoyed notice largely due to you guys obsessing over it. And well intentioned but ignorant allies.

Most trans people agree that to be trans you must actually transition & change your sex.

>>40607692
It is weird! They're so fucking weird. Bigots like Rowling hoarde privilege for themselves and are so hollowed out by it that they identify with it heavily. So when their victims stand up for themselves, demand dignity be returned to them & seize it; these people immediately assume it must be jealousy. I'm not jealous you had your foot on my neck, I'm telling you that the foot is coming off one way or the other. I think it's like that most people denied dignity by the privileged and it's why the Rowlings & Musks of our time get so offended by us banding together against their predation.

>>40603426 (OP)
She said something suggesting positive to a kind of trans??

>>40607701
>If you lived on a remote island with only men

You wouldn't be crying about not having a vagina and tits if you never saw a woman. The moment you witness women, you want to become them. You want our titles, names, places.

>If trans women can pass as cis women, and cis women pass as trans women, then chromosomes cannot be the sole means by which sex is determined.

Sex as the factor woman/female is the only thing that makes sense. Otherwise it's just a flimsy "whatever I feel like!" that can change any day depending how tolerant society feels that moment.

>And if they were, we would all have had our choromsomes tested and printed on a card we exchange before greeting each other.

I explained to you that this literally wasn't needed for 99,9% of history until recently when men became far more aggressive about imitating women in every aspect through massive surgeries and high quality hormones as well as politics pushing for the same. Now because INSANE MEN insist they are women, we need to determine woman by female/sex.

>Your DNA contains the blueprints for you developing sexual characteristics.
Female babies are already born with eggs. Male babies are not. Our DNA has decided that.

>>40607701
>I certainly don't, and that seems to be a very unpopular view these days that only briefly enjoyed notice largely due to you guys obsessing over it.

So enlighten me when is a transwoman considered a woman and at what stage is she a man. Is that decided by cup size or hair length?

>>40607692
>Insofar as your desert island thought experiments and your "you want to look like 'us'" style arguments, they reek of absolute weirdness.

It's weird that the other anon tries to argue that transwomen aren't trying to copy/be ciswomen, because that's literally what most do.

Just create your own third gender or something. Why do you NEED to force yourself into womanhood?

>>40607845
>Just create your own third gender or something

Because it will just create our own personalized ghetto where we will potentially suffer even more than we do now. Why don't other minorities want to be legally segregated? Maybe we should put the religion of your parents on your passport and license while we're at it? Maybe your racial background too, just in case you're ambiguous.

There aren't enough trans women and trans men to form a coherent social bloc.

> Why do you NEED to force yourself into womanhood?

Why do adoptive parents and step parents NEED to inject themselves into parenthood? They aren't BIOLOGICAL parents.

Well, because sometimes social reality and legal reality aligning creates better outcomes than "biological reality" and legal reality aligning. Though in the case of trans people who hormonally and surgically transition, even the biological justifications lose some weight.

>>40607913
You ARE the oppressor. You are not the "helpless minority" you come from the male sex and then want to make that the problem of women and little girls because of a fetish. We don't want that.

>There aren't enough trans women and trans men to form a coherent social bloc.
"Kathoeys are not traditionally transgender, but are seen as a third gender."

>Why do adoptive parents and step parents NEED to inject themselves into parenthood? They aren't BIOLOGICAL parents.
Protecting children isn't the same as an adult male with dick and balls putting on panties and injecting estrogen and then calling himself a she/her lesbian.

Exceptions are made for children. Little boys can sometimes go into the ladies room with mothers for example, it's not a big deal.

>>40607701
>If you lived on a remote island with only men or only women around you wouldn't have much of an idea of anything. Ignorance of something doesn't preclude it's existence. On an island of 1 legged men people would still be troubled by their 1 leggedness even without objective knowledge of humans being bipedal.

You don't really know this though... It's a very flawed thought experiment. We experience both sex and gender through a social lens.

The idea of sex itself implies bifurcation of our species. Bifurcation implies that there is more than one of a thing.

Talking about sex in this sort of way is nonsensical.

The fact is, we were born into a social species. We weren't isolated since birth from all external input. So here we are.

That said, I can try to interpret what you are saying in a more graceful way.

I think you're trying to make a claim that being transgender must lack a biological component because it's inherently social to regard yourself as being a part of another sex from your own.

The problem with this, is that we have lots of examples of species having biological predisposition toward developing social behaviors. This whole genre of study is called: "self socialization".

>terf thread
>look inside
>agps larping for savior of wombyn validation points to feel less guilty about themselves
many such cases

>>40604153
transbians are men who need to pretend to be lesbians in order to have the gay sex they want because they're too homophobic to do it "as themselves" and husstussies are men who need to pretend to be straight women in order to have the gay sex they want because they're too homophobic to see any man who has sex with men as masculine enough to be attracted to

>>40607952
>Protecting children isn't the same as an adult male with dick and balls putting on panties and injecting estrogen and then calling himself a she/her lesbian.

You really managed to miss my point there.

The problem is, you've constructed an idea of transgender people where they are all inherently threatening. If I had to guess, I'd say that this is because you simply find something about the concept of transgender people as threatening your own sense of self and it's too painful to admit that, so instead you project that individualized threat onto society at large.

To get back to specifics. The analogy with parents is simply that we afford adoptive parents and step parents equal standing with biological parents for practical and moral purposes.

If you don't see transgender people as some sort of evil menace, you can perhaps be persuaded that similar accommodations could be made for them. There's already a precedent and in general allowing people to have more opportunities can be a good thing for society-there are some high achieving trans women but they are already heavy outliers and probably could have achieved even more without the burdens placed on them. Lynn Conway made great advances in computing for example, but she had to rebuild her career after IBM fired her for being trans. That probably wasted valuable years of contribution.

We all lose as a result of needlessly excluding social groups from social participation.

The friction in a trans person's life from having their legal and social reality clash effectively excludes them from opportunities.

I think you'd see that as a good thing because the underlying reasoning behind your messages seems to be that you'd rather us not exist at all. But if we must exist, we should be kept away from the public sphere somehow or isolated.

>>40608086
Not all men are threatening, but we still don't allow them in our prisons, sports, changing rooms or waxing salons (lol) just like I don't want a pit bull around my kids even if the average pit bull isn't gonna maul them, I am not taking the risk and feel uncomfortable.

>the underlying reasoning behind your messages seems to be that you'd rather us not exist at all.

I'm all for allowing transpeople to transition, have medical care, come up with a new pronoun and their own gender. But that's not possible apparently either I have to accept them as literally women or I'm a hater who is causing them to die, with very little middle ground.

>>40607834
The legless people wouldn't want legs either till they noticed some had two, it's not meaningfully "imitating" and if they could have a 2nd leg restored to them then they would be bipedal regardless of your feelings.

>whatever I feel like
No, it's based on your sexual characteristics. How could sex be identified through chromosomes if trans women and cis women pass for each other?

>explained to you that this literally wasn't needed for 99,9% of history
And I corrected you that trans people have always existed and trans care like any medicine has been sought, practiced & improved. Furthermore concepts of intersexuality, androgyny, masculinity & femininity existed at the same time. During this period nobody knew about chromosomes. We used sexual characteristics as we evolved to do. You're upset at something deeper than mere tradition, sex recognition is literally biological. And we don't do it with chromosomes even if thats the world you want.

>Our DNA has decided that.
Nothing you said is contrary to what I said, and in fact now it seems like you're slow-walking your next proposed sexual identifier now that the chromosome argument failed *again*.

>when is a transwoman considered a woman
How many grains of sand make a pile?
And you meant socially right? Because biologically trans women are trans women. Socially becoming a woman is culturally contextual and is deeply influenced by how much you pass for cis. Biologically I don't know that there is a hard and fast point we can use yet, I'd say maybe 1 year on hormones through and you are *projected* (but not guaranteed) changes in your sexual characteristics.

>>40603495
>we're supposed to be angry about it
You clearly are

>>40607845
It isn't. You're assuming women are one uniform category of person with a homogenous culture and presentation. That has never been the case in history, its always shifting and changing. There is nothing implicitly "your's" about it. And biologically we are not copying you, we're changing our bodies. I didn't want to be you. I wanted to be me but with adjustments. I am not a 3rd gender, I'm a woman and seen as that socially. I am perhaps a "3rd sex" but also one that is 1% of the population. It doesn't make sense to segregate us and when you shove us into men's spaces we are raped.

>>40607952
>You ARE the oppressor
We're all working class and our enemies are billionaires & oligarch pedophiles like Trump, Musk, Thiel & Rowling.

>>40608127
I'm mad at what her class has done to my planet, species, fellow women & the LGBTQ community. But as an individual pervert obsessed with trans porn, she's interchangeable with any other rape apologist like Candace Owens. If anything her circumstances make it less infuriating. And in this thread I'm more frustrated by a few anonymous guys' anti-intellectual misogyny & transphobia than I am Rowling. She's nobody, I legitimately wouldn't trust any oligarch to babysit or cook a meal and while she's elderly for an oligarch in human years she's kind of a child. How mad can I personally get a childlike mind vs the damage it causes and the wealth inequality enabling it?

>>40608122
>I'm all for allowing transpeople to transition, have medical care, come up with a new pronoun and their own gender
then what the fuck are you doing arguing here about what fucking words we should use when our rights to do these things are directly being attacked by people claiming to represent your goals?

>>40608122
>come up with a new pronoun and their own gender. But that's not possible apparently either I have to accept them as literally women or I'm a hater who is causing them to die, with very little middle ground.

We don't live in a world where this is practical. This is why you aren't having any success convincing anyone that you're actually very humane.

Legally classifying transgender as women and then removing them from activities on a case by case basis where it makes sense is very different from legally classifying them as some third thing and then creating an environment where they have no clear rights or acceptable life paths.

Once again, it would be like demanding that only biological parents be called parents and that adoptive parents be called adoptants and not have the same legal standing as biological parents.

You could say "but I'm still in favor of adoption, I just think that sometimes adoptive parents do bad things and so they should have a special label that protects biological children and parents from them" and some people might find that reasonable, but it does create a lot of burden for adoptive families that wouldn't exist if you'd just accept them as part of the broader legal category of "parents".

There is always a cost for segregating people out. That's why nobody is compelled with your "generous" offer for us to wear around a newly minted social and legal identity with zero historical protections.

Third genders in Thailand and other countries have consistently fought to be recognized more broadly as women/men in a legal sense because of this. It's usually quite difficult and limiting to be third gender, even in societies where there's some sort of carve out for it.

It's the thing about being a minority.

I think that many of the same personality types in favor of treating trans people like this today would have probably been fence sitters during the civil rights era of the 20th century too. Supporters of "separate but equal".

>>40608197
Duuuuuuuhhhhhhhh gee i dunno bawss, da compooter app said dat troons were no good and i trusted da compooter bawss

>>40607952
>Protecting children
I don't know how you don't see the parallels. Plenty of conservatives argue gay couples and single people shouldn't be allowed to adopt, partly because they think it's unsafe for the kids. "Why do you NEED to inject yourself into parenthood" is probably something they'd say.

>>40607952
>You ARE the oppressor

The irony of this worldview is that it's the same mindset that caused extreme leftists to accuse homeless white people of oppressing wealthy black people.

It's basically a reinvention of "original sin" and the concept is every bit as religious, in the sense that it makes no logical sense and requires a leap of faith.

Trans women are not treated like cis men and are not afforded the social status of cis men. It would be a HUGE gain in social status for trans women to simply be held in the same esteem as cis women.

One of the reasons I know that the gender critical movement will fail, is that it's actually just a slight perversion of the same bullshit that powered neoliberal "woke" politics.

Reality is too grey for this bullshit.

>>40607952
Kathoeys are frequently abused, raped & prosituted vs cultures where trans women are seen as women. How is it that your every policy suggestion loops back into "make it easy for me to rape you whores"?

>>40608243
>extreme leftists to accuse homeless white people of oppressing wealthy black people.
I have never once seen that and I don't believe it's possible to be considered left wing at all without some kind of class analysis. This was only ever a meme from people scared of left wing organizations emerging out of Occupy, the Anti-War Movement, Anti-Globalist Movements & Green Scare.

>>40603426 (OP)
What is an androphilic trans-identifying man?

>>40608260
>I have never once seen that and I don't believe it's possible to be considered left wing at all without some kind of class analysis

I guess you were in elementary school in the 2010s? Every workplace I was in during ~2013-2018 had at least one mandatory training where they would point out the common refrain that "but how can poor white people oppress wealthy people of color" in their slides and argue that "well you see white people all exist within the structure of white supremacy" and handwave it away.

This is what you're doing here. No matter how poor the material conditions and actual social status of trans women is, you'll just say "well they oppress me because they have the wrong chromosome". It's a leap of faith. Original sin reinvented.

>>40608285
>Every workplace I was in during ~2013-2018 had at least one mandatory training where they would point out the common refrain tha
What? Your company had 1 mandatory training session and that's what I'm supposed to consider "the left"? That's not the left lmfao how could it be? We are anti-corporation and pro worker ownership. What you're describing sounds like some milquetoast centrist neoliberalism, which we opposed in those movements I listed.

And also you're full of shit if you think I believe that any company had a video you watched where some guy explains that unhoused white people oppress Will Smith. It wouldn't matter if they did since it's not the left but for the record you are full of shit girl

>>40603426 (OP)
JK Rowling basically confirms what we all knew

transbians ARE the problem

get rid of all transbians = get rid of all our problems

>>40608305
You're in denial about what you are.

You want to think that you're some sort of "leftist" but you're living under the same sort of logic that lets a billionaire living in a castle paint herself as some sort of underdog against the huddled masses.

And of course those presentations didn't talk about Will Smith. Instead they presented us with abstractions that led to the obvious conclusion that Will Smith was oppressed by poor white people, because even if he were rich he still didn't benefit from white supremacy.

Of course it's non-sensical. Overly reductive. But then again, so is your worldview. And you'll cling to it anyway because you've anchored your sense of identity on it.

SAD

>>40608281
HSTS

>>40608331
I know for a fact that I am in the leftist tradition of democratic expansion & social justice defined as such during the French Revolution where we got the terms "left & right". Right is hierarchy and tradition, left is democracy and social justice: the center is a compromise position and that's what you're describing. A privately owned corporation covering it's own ass by saying "don't use slurs at work" is centrism. You're talking absolute nonsense that I could never fall for, what's embarrassing is that you might have.

White women try not to be absolutely insufferable control freaks challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

>>40608122
we know we aren't literally female. that's what the word AMAB means. that's what transfeminine means. that's what MtF means. we know we aren't cisF

>>40608281
A tranny that is attracted to masculine partners.

Autogynephilic trannies are the bad ones, the trannies that hate masculinity as their primary reason for wanting to transition. They're usually rapists that target cis girls.

>>40608419
Can you not change the words so they don't both begin with A?
That doesn't help, when they both already look like gibberish.

>>40608431
The point of cultspeak is that it sounds crazy to outsiders, just saying~

>>40608442
Tim and Tiff were just nicknames before you cultists took over

>>40607952
>trans women as a minority population are oppressors (nevermind trans men, do not bring them up except to infantalize them and say they are too stupid or traumatized to have agency as full people)
>>40608384
>I'm a leftist and believe in social justice

Funny how left-right solidarity only occurs to shit on us it seems. Oh and jews I guess, I guess we're the two "no really this minority group is actually oppressing us all and they need to be segregated from the wider society that (((they))) are infiltrating"
Like does it not give you pause even a little bit to think on who you're rubbing elbows with in terms of politics?

>>40608515
>Like does it not give you pause even a little bit to think on who you're rubbing elbows with in terms of politics
You're going to have to be much more specific. Here, I'll help you. I'm a millenial democratic socialist, philosophically I'm an anarchist but I see that as a multigenerational goal more than a personal endeavor. Life long antiracist and antizionist, social libertarian and pro gun. My ideal economy is one where large previously corporate entities become jointly managed & owned worker co-ops with privately owned small businesses furnishing our streets as a supplement. I believe in banning cell phones in schools & view AI-induced cognitive debt as a major policy failure. Global warming and ecological decay are undeniable facts and the rising rate of natural disasters means we need to prepare strong networks for assimilating immigrants as citizens and taking care of everybody living in our country. If Israel does not end the apartheid I'm open to escalating reprisals up to and including invasion to liberate the Palestinian people and all future victims of Hitler's heirs in the Middle East. I also think we ought to sponsor more hunting, hiking and foraging education courses as well as publicly owned & managed sports leagues for all ages.

>>40608622
Oh silly me, I neglected to say the obvious. I believe in abolishing the oligarch class entirely and the complete confiscation of their stolen wealth & resources immediately. Their wealth can cancel the debt of all their victims as reparations and furnish public infrastructure. I'm pro-abortion & believe in funding our foster systems with repatriated funds while opening them up further to LGBTQ couples.

Ok there you go. Who am I rubbing shoulders with that upsets you?

>>40608622
>publicly owned & managed sports leagues for all ages
based

>>40608431
Incoherent post.

>>40608672
he is complaining about autogynephilia and androphilia both starting with the letter A

>>40608672
>Incoherent post.
Try not to read 4chan posts whilst off your head on meth

>>40608681
Autism also begins with the letter A.
>>40608696
Incoherent post.

>>40608740
yes because aut = self

>>40608622
>>40608651
the right hates rannies and wants them segregated from general society for the same reason they hate gays, they go against the established society, hierarchical gender norms, "family values"/"protect the children"(a faux-value if there ever was one), their religion, as well as having a general distaste for people having bodily autonomy. I feel comfortable saying this is a pretty widespread view on the right except maybe they'll make an exception for their pet trans woman they want to rape and abuse

some leftists, like you, hate trannies and want them segregated from general society because you see us as an inherently antifeminist oppressor class that the left should not concern itself with, and if not outright harming us yourselves, choose to leave at the mercy of those that do.
It's not uncommon that when it comes to other leftists I will overlap 99% in beliefs but I'm not going to pretend that people who gleefully hate us and would gladly watch the right take away our access to healthcare and discrimination protections in housing and employment are my friends or comrades.
>oh but I *personally* don't believe in those things!!
No, but you're not too bothered by those who do. This is what I mean about who you rub elbows with.
Of course in some sense, I understand. Who wants to go to bat for a minority population with such horrible optics as we have, who wants to make transgender people the dividing line, but for us that have to be inescapably like this, who have to wake up every single day as one of the most hated, derided, spat upon populations on Earth, it is our line.
I hope I communicated this well enough that you understand where we come from.

>>40609040
We misfired, I am trans and have been arguing against the transphobes ITT.

>>40603426 (OP)
>Victoria
Victoria is a shithole. It's everything wrong with Australia

>>40609040
yeah even among people who otherwise hate bigots just view transphobia as an optional opinion-based thing. most allies think we can just go without hrt and paternalistically dismiss how severe dysphoria can be