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Anonymous No.40626068 [Report] >>40627317 >>40627327 >>40629713 >>40630695 >>40636553 >>40639075 >>40640747 >>40641874 >>40647881 >>40647960
Aging as a man suddenly started to become dreadful to me and I also began to envy women around my age
This must be a phase, right?
Anonymous No.40627317 [Report] >>40628937
>>40626068 (OP)
Most steadfast repper
Anonymous No.40627327 [Report] >>40628937
>>40626068 (OP)
same
>captcha gayk4
Anonymous No.40627365 [Report] >>40627889 >>40627900 >>40629909
yeah bro the tranny thoughts go away at 30
Anonymous No.40627889 [Report]
>>40627365
:(((
Anonymous No.40627900 [Report]
>>40627365
they didn't
t. thought it would and started HRT just before 31
Anonymous No.40628937 [Report] >>40629102 >>40639218
>>40627317
It can't be. This all started in my 20s. There were no tranny thoughts in the past.
This is probably just a quarter life crisis. It feels like a scapegoat for something I've yet to define

>>40627327
I'm sorry you are going through this as well
Anonymous No.40629102 [Report]
>>40628937
hasn't gone away for me and i'm 33
Anonymous No.40629607 [Report]
Same lol
Anonymous No.40629713 [Report] >>40631191 >>40639218
>>40626068 (OP)
I had a really bad depressive episode after getting surgical anesthesia at 17 (it can be a side effect apparently) centered around getting older & becoming an adult. it wasn't the determining moment to me trooning out (i had various thoughts before) but it made me realize this; the prospect of being a girl and aging into a woman felt ok...but the thought of aging into a man at 25 or 30 or 40 made me want to vomit & sob & kms for reasons i couldn't fully get. If you can figure out the answer to that question (will you be ok as a 40yo man?) then you will know
Anonymous No.40629909 [Report]
>>40627365
haha....yea bro
Anonymous No.40630695 [Report] >>40631191
>>40626068 (OP)
Do you think you would feel this way if you didn't know about the existence of transgender people? Would this though linger for as long as it does when you verbalize it on a transgender forum?

>This must be a phase, right?
If it is, you might be in control of its length. Without overthinking, try to figure this out before you end up stretching it out for multiple years. Just trust your gut.
Anonymous No.40631191 [Report] >>40631793 >>40640721
>>40629713
I genuinely can't figure this out. There are periods where I am completely fine with the idea of living the rest of my life as a man, while other times, I feel like I will only hate myself even more if I let myself age as a man.
I also simply can't tell whether I am dysphoric about anything or not. Looking at myself in the mirror makes me feel nothing, and trying to introspect about it only makes me feel like I'm gaslighting myself.

>>40630695
>Do you think you would feel this way if you didn't know about the existence of transgender people?
The existence of trans people did not prompt this, but me learning about hrt did. I even took it for about 3 months before stopping, because the uncertainty was causing me immense anxiety. Before I stopped, I really wanted to want to continue taking it, but having to deal with the consequences in case I were to regret it later was too much to bear

>Would this though linger for as long as it does when you verbalize it on a transgender forum?
Verbalizing all of this brings a lot of it's absurdity to the forefront for me, making me feel extremely stupid for even thinking about it in the first place. My mind always returns back to it though, no matter what I do.

>Without overthinking, try to figure this out before you end up stretching it out for multiple years. Just trust your gut.
Both possible outcomes seem equally preferrable to me right now. I want to either go back to being completely fine or even feel good about being a man, or realize that I am actually trans and be able to take hrt knowing that I won't ruin my life by doing so.
Trusting my gut has gotten me nowhere unfortunately, since it's too inconsistent and contradictory.
Anonymous No.40631204 [Report] >>40633477 >>40639038 >>40649705
>I'M AFRAID OF GROWING UP
>I'M AFRAID OF GROWING UP!!

- t. The ENTIRE Queer community
Anonymous No.40631793 [Report] >>40632078
>>40631191
classic repper. take your meds and stop if you hate the effects you will know in 1-3 months before any real changes are permanent
Anonymous No.40632078 [Report]
>>40631793
I did though, and it didn't make anything clearer. They didn't make me feel any different, even after the physical changes started to show pretty rapidly.
It's been more than half a year since I stopped, and I still sometimes think about whether I made a mistake stopping, while other times I feel like it was the right choice
Anonymous No.40633452 [Report]
same
Anonymous No.40633477 [Report] >>40633908
>>40631204
I'm a ftm and it's my dream to eventually look like Hank Hill
Anonymous No.40633908 [Report]
>>40633477
based af. Do you want to sound like him as well?
Anonymous No.40636553 [Report] >>40636614
>>40626068 (OP)
I think I will just wait this out. Letting myself masculinize further will force me to realize whether I able to live with it or not
Anonymous No.40636614 [Report] >>40637294
>>40636553
oh lawd he john, 50'ing
Anonymous No.40637294 [Report]
>>40636614
Don't think I will. When all of this passes, I'll go back to liking being a man
Anonymous No.40638991 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.40639038 [Report]
>>40631204
Not afraid of growing up, just growing old. I like my body, I like being alive.
Why would I celebrate dying?
Anonymous No.40639075 [Report] >>40640019 >>40640636
>>40626068 (OP)
Not wanting to become an old man is a valid reason to take hrt. Just dont troon if you dont pass. Your dick will probably break but viagra can keep it going for awhile probably
Anonymous No.40639218 [Report] >>40640019
>>40628937
>only started in 20s
>>40629713
>aging as a woman vs man
Gotta be real here, probably not full blown dysphoria. As much as I hate to say it, more like peter pan syndrome mixed with NB stuff. But really, everyone wants to cheat the reaper, myself included; its bullshit associating peterpan syndrome with just gays.
From personal experience, if you're self medicating with alcohol or whatever, it may be worth it looking into HRT.
Anonymous No.40640019 [Report] >>40646241
>>40639075
If that's the only reason, it's most likely not worth it, especially when the I'll just end up being an estrogenized man

>>40639218
>Gotta be real here, probably not full blown dysphoria
I don't like how I look, nor do I really like stuff like facial hair or my prominent browbone, even if I'm good looking by conventional standards, but I don't think this is dysphoria. Probably aesthetic preference at most.

>As much as I hate to say it, more like peter pan syndrome mixed with NB stuff.
My fear about aging only applies to aging as a man, since that would ruin any chance of a successful transition, even if I don't even know whether I want to transition or not. I already look like a man, but I'm in my early 20s, and I know that I will only masculinize further if I were to wait.
I would rather look like someone who is 40 rather than someone who is 14, so I don't think it's peter pan syndrome, but you are likely right about the nb stuff
Anonymous No.40640636 [Report]
>>40639075
Awkward asking the doc for bonerpills as a trans
Anonymous No.40640721 [Report] >>40641040
>>40631191
>I even took it for about 3 months
Oh. That could've been included in the OP. Tips the scales a bit.
Anonymous No.40640747 [Report] >>40641040
>>40626068 (OP)
is bro really gleposting while pretending to be a dude
Anonymous No.40641040 [Report]
>>40640721
To which side? If I were trans, I would've felt better on hrt, and if I were cis, I would've felt worse, I'd assume. Neither was the case

>>40640747
Yes
Anonymous No.40641874 [Report] >>40643415
>>40626068 (OP)
save yourself before you end up a lateshit.
Anonymous No.40643415 [Report] >>40646241
>>40641874
I really don't want to hop back on e only to become a neurotic detroon man with visible gyno. Maybe I won't, but I can't tell
Anonymous No.40646241 [Report] >>40647576
>>40640019
>don't like how I look, nor do I really like stuff like facial hair or my prominent browbone
>I would rather look like someone who is 40 rather than someone who is 14, so I don't think it's peter pan syndrome
I think Im picking up what you're putting down. Im in that boat, started HRT at 30 because MPB and aging as a man didnt appeal to me. Aging as some inbetween man-women thing never bothered me, but was rather the goal. Something resembling David Bowie Goblin King when im 45.

>>40643415
>I really don't want to hop back on e
Then maybe laser hair removal and just cosmetic surgery?
Anonymous No.40647576 [Report] >>40647761
>>40646241
>Aging as some inbetween man-woman thing never bothered me, but was rather the goal
That would actually be the goal for me as well in an ideal world, but it only really works if you are good looking, otherwise you end up in the untranny valley.

>Then maybe laser hair removal and just cosmetic surgery?
I will most get lhr and maybe even some cosmetic surgery, but that still won't be able to compensate for the effects of testosterone. I would start hrt again, if I knew that I could stick to it, but I feel like all the external (and maybe internal as well) pressures will make me get detroon sooner or later
Anonymous No.40647761 [Report]
>>40647576
>but it only really works if you are good looking, otherwise you end up in the untranny valley.
Part of avoiding uncanny looks is maintaining proportion. It would make no sense for someone to have full on FFS when their body shape is masculine or if their head shape/size is outta whack. Like Barbie head on Ken doll. Personally, Dr. Lachiver is my go to for FFS, as he has that sense of proportion and what looks right. Of course, any surgeon will do whatever you pay for, without aesthetic consideration based on how many bogged rich people are running around.

>I would start hrt again, if I knew that I could stick to it, but I feel like all the external (and maybe internal as well) pressures will make me get detroon
HRT will nuke your testosterone, any half measure will put your health at risk like mono T blockers. Going on and off might fuck u up too. If you cannot accept all the changes from HRT, then its prob a bad idea to take it. Asides from HRT, skincare does the heavy lifting imho. Daily sunscreen, retinol, salicylic acid, glycolic acid, rice probiotics, exfoliatiin, and so on and on.
Anonymous No.40647881 [Report]
>>40626068 (OP)
welcome to the sisterhood
Anonymous No.40647960 [Report] >>40649629
>>40626068 (OP)
as a former "bro i just want to avoid twinkdeath" enjoyer

no, this isnt a normal way to feel. you just found being a boy tolerable, you cannot stand the idea of being a man. this is a common pipeline. normal men do not fear aging nearly as much, men typically get gender euphoria from looking more rugged and such. if balding is your only concern you can just get on minoxidil or fin/dutasteride, that part of aging is hated by everyone

for me i just genuinely deluded myself into thinking that im not trans despite puberty changes making me lose hope for life, crying myself to sleep night after night over not being a girl, having dreams of being a girl, only feeling my depression and constant sense of dread lift while presenting/perceiving myself in a feminine way, and so on. i never once felt gender euphoria about masculinity, normal men typically enjoy being men.
i had all that going on and still told myself "nah i just wanna avoid twinkdeath". fucking hell even before puberty almost all of my fantasies involved me being a girl or excessively effeminate boy.
Anonymous No.40649629 [Report]
>>40647960
As far as I can tell, I don't even necessarily care about avoiding twinkdeath, but much rather the way most men age. There are some men who are fortunate, and age really well, but knowing my genetics, there is a considerable chance I won't be one of them.
Hopping on hrt only for aesthetic reasons doesn't only feels extremely vain to me, but also like a foolish ambition, which won't lead me to actually be more comfortable in my body. I wish that weren't the case though
There is also the fact that I really can't tell whether I will one day come around and like the idea of aging as a man. I've never goth gender euphoria from puberty, but I've also never got gender euphoria from anything else. It's hard to believe that it's not just a meme
Anonymous No.40649705 [Report]
>>40631204
I find the peter pan syndrome so repulsive. It's probably one of the most unattractive personalities I can imagine.