>hold unrealistic standards for men
>pretend like they don't do this and men are making up fictional scenarios
>usually the only ones using agab terminology
>the existence of afab only anything
>treat ftms and gay men like women
>claim that ftms are different than evil rapist cis men because "they understand the afab experience" (they see them as women)
>claim that while they support mtfs they will never understand the "afab/wombyn experience" (they see them as men)
>basically filled with woke transphobia and sexism and no matter how "inclusive" they try to be, it will always show
>constantly infight
>always act like only they can be the victims
Why are they like this? I've only seen this behavior in them and some gigafembrained trans people (mtf and ftm)

>>40674239 (OP)
Females are just preconditioned to be cognitively inferior. If 99.9% of men are cognitively subhuman, its like 99.99% of women. However those women who are cognitively human they are usually of higher humanity than cognitively human men (from the very limited dataset). So they have that.

>>40674239 (OP)
letters out of curiosity?

>>40674239 (OP)
there are three axes of gendered oppression.
-base misandry ("masculine" men > other)
-base misogyny ("feminine" women > other)
-patriarchal misogyny (men > women)
cisfoids will only admit to the existence of the last one because if they acknowledge the existence of the others they cant socially murder each other (their fav hobby) as easily.

transfeminists will call base misogyny and base misandry "oppositional sexism" to occlude the fact men can be oppressed because it means they can be transmisogynist to reppers to feel better abt themselves. hence why they haven't called to tear down the cisfoid view as much as they ought to imo.

to answer your question- cisfoids experience both privelege and oppression. but, they're unique in that they actively think that privelege is an additional oppression. so its the same process that makes white gays tend to be a bit racist except its cranked up to 11 because theres no practical way to snap them out of it

>>40674239 (OP)
>>claim that ftms are different than evil rapist cis men
Trans men don't have the same historical oppression streak cis men do so this does make sense. Likewise colored ftms were treated like threats and infiltrators even when they were women. Something something intersectionality.

>>40674239 (OP)
I treat gay men like men because they're men. I treat ftms like women because they're women. I treat mtfs like men because they're men.

>>40674239 (OP)
cisfoids are the root of all evil in the world

>>40674402
Misandry demonizes masculine men

>>40674239 (OP)
i think that it's easy for cis women to see trans women and trans men as men because they're both different to themselves. similarly i think it's easy for cis men to see both trans women and trans men as women, because they're both different to themselves. at least i think thats the instinctual subconscious reaction a lot of the time but social conditioning makes most see us as our agab and occasionally creates the perfect cissoid who actually respects both

>>40675917
I think all trans people are men as femrepper.

>>40676040
thank you for supporting my model (though i think there may be some more complex feelings there too since you're a repper)

>>40674239 (OP)
Your feelings are valid, but unhealthy. You've clearly been hurt by women, and you clearly haven't been supported in your own gender identity as you should have been.
Yeah there are a lot of ignorant people in this world, but when you indulge in hate you're not stopping them, you're joining them. So I invite you to take that list and turn it into a positive list of how you think cisfoids SHOULD act.

Women should:
>Recognize the diversity of men and support all men in their expressions of masculinity
>admit their own role in perpetuating the gender war and creating gender related distress
>validate trans men and trans women by not referring to their agab when inappropriate.
>not divide people by agab at all
>not exceptionalize trans men
>not invalidate the gender identity of effiminate gay men
>not invalidate the authenticity of trans experiences
>be aware of microaggressions
>be cooperative instead of combative
>accept that cis women don't have the monopoly on trauma
>practice active reflection on how they can make society better and more inclusive for everyone

Is that a list you'd agree with? Do you think there's ways you might communicate this more constructively when faced with ciswomen behaving in hurtful ways?

>>40676120
i read a post "huh this reads like chatgpt"
look at the trip, Emily of 4chan, every time.

>>40676323
Tbf the op is completely unhinged

>>40676323
>I use AI therapy and recognize the positive impact its having on my life.
Good for you. Ai therapy is a really powerful tool, especially if you don't have access to human therapy.

>>40676360
I don't think the OP is unhinged, I think has a lot of trauma, as someone who has a lot of that trauma herself I read OP's post and thought about what I need to hear when I feel this way, and combined that with active listening which I think I'm getting better at.

Anger is the inability to reconcile the way the world is with the way you believe the world should be. OP was upfront about their anger about the way the world is, rightly or wrongly that's the anger, so let's talk about the way OP believes the world should be.

And I agree with most of the things on that list.

>>40676410
>And I agree with most of the things on that list.
You’re saying you agree with OP? That afab-only spaces shouldn’t exist?

>>40674265
>preconditioned
This word is different from the word “conditioned”, how?

>>40676462
Possible. I certainly understand the feeling, though I accept that's a complicated one.
I do think that female only spaces should not be an afab-only space by default. Female only spaces should be trans inclusive by default, and if there is a reason why trans women can't be included then that reason needs to be examined thoroughly to make sure it's not simply excusing transphobia.

>>40674239 (OP)
i feel like this post is pooner coded
nontheless, i support its message
thank you, based frustration posting pooner

>>40674402
i think without heteronormativity, sexism cant really be understood well. its tragic so few people give wittig her due on this.

>>40676520
The reason is that men could pose as tran women to get access, plus the actual trans women are often just as creepy men

>>40676843
That's transphobia.
What you're actually trying to prohibit is certain behaviours, which is fine, but you're banning trans women who don't exhibit those behaviours along with those who do. There's no reason we can't simply ban the behaviour itself which keeps cis women safe without marginalizing trans women.

And even then, in the long run we're going to have to ask what's causing the unwanted behaviour and find ways to include the people exhibiting it without risking anyone else's safety. Any ban of anyone has to be conditional upon not violating the banned person's human rights, ie cannot impede access to medical care (women's clinics) and cannot put that person in danger (battered women's shelters).