Thread 40979769

How the fuck did they win?

Trans people were being accepted and seen as normal just a few years ago. My school library back then even stopped stocking Harry Potter

>>40979769 (OP)
everyone lost their fucking minds after covid.

>>40979769 (OP)
Transbian fatigue

>>40979769 (OP)
you know they admitted to cheating openly right

+ en masse using bots to change public opinion
+ acquiescing social media to have control over the algorithm and thus control how people think, promote hateful ideology, keep us divided, with a scapegoat

>>40979769 (OP)
economics
things are shit for the lower classes so the right is on the rise
liberals had to decide where they were going to give and they chose us, and immigrants

people don't want to be forced to pretend a man in a female costume is a female

fag fatigue

>>40979830
you should kys.

>>40979769 (OP)
>Trans people were being accepted and seen as normal just a few years ago.
This never actually happened. Your kind seems completely unaware of all the resentment you were building.

>>40979850
you should admit you are male, and stop taking hormones

>>40979877
trannies will never admit they generate massive resentment by trying to force you to believe things that are not try and contradict their appearance and behavior

>>40979877
>zogbot astroturfing

>>40979769 (OP)
The chuds were systematically taught how to lead every conversation into "what is a woman" territory and non-chud normies eventually became tired of having to defend claims such as "women can have testicles".

>>40979912
because trans women are dishonest and believe a woman is just a man who says he is one, but can't admit this

>>40979886
>you should admit you are male, and stop taking hormones
and you should kill yourself.

>>40979886
make yourself a wall pizza fatass

>>40979777
>>40979769 (OP)
i think what is real crazy is how western society was ok with child castration and they even make it trendy

>>40979817
this and sjw fatigue

>>40980075
we are still ok with mass castration, it's just been euphemistically renamed "gender transition" and trannies still think they are gonna get away with it!

>>40980075
Child castration prevents people from becoming rapehons. It's a considerable boon to society.

>>40979850
No, you should kill yourself

I know you have thought about it, fucking do it already you fucking pussy.

>>40980088
it doesn't seems so with trump administratiom

tranny fatigue

>>40980075
They aren’t getting castrated, children aren’t getting srs. This is what the puberty blocker debate was about, they let the person pause their development and actually think about what they want, and the vast majority go on to transition because they already had trans identities.
Circumcision is more ubiquitous and accepted by right wingers despite because abjectly far more unethical. That actually IS child genital mutilation, but most transphobes don’t actually think about that.
As much as they cry “think of the children” it’s not about the children, it’s about hating transgenders for not conforming

>>40979769 (OP)
Drag queen story hour and transing the kids at school in secret and against parents' wishes.

>>40979842
LMAO I need a full college level break down on this image. Pure art.

>>40979842
actual repfuel

>>40979769 (OP)
You messed with kids

>>40980535
I didn't do shit you fucking idiot, this isn't a game where we have nice little teams and can all have a good laugh when its all over.

>>40980300
>Drag queen story hour
Nothing wrong with that, parents are just reacting to that with the transphobia they already have.
>transing the kids at school in secret and against parents' wishes.
The kids are determining their own identities without any push, and the teachers are just refraining from outing them to unaccepting jerks

>>40980559
I'm fine with trannies around kids, but like... why do you need to crossdress specifically around kids? That is a little weird I guess.

Your second point is essentially correct, if we diden't have so many shitty parents there would be no reason for schools to keep kids messing around with that from them.

>>40979769 (OP)
has glinner’s head always looked like that

>>40980277
>children aren’t getting srs.
There would no push for this, trust me bro

>>40979886
> another ESL transphobe
it's so tiresome

>>40980704
I was born in raised in America. Though, my dad is an anchor baby from Southern Europe. They did verbal testing on me when I was a little kid and most of it I was in the 98th or 99th percentile. I don't worry about using perfect grammar on 4chan.

>>40980722
> "southern europe"
so you're arab

We told you a million times to shut the fuck up or we'd all get sent to camps and now we're all going to get sent to camps
Congrats

>>40980722
Oh you got 99th percentile on verbal? That's so fucking cool, I tested that high too as a stupid faggot but I have cooler stuff to brag about because I didn't waste my life and then lash out at trannies (was tempted too though but my better nature told me not to).

>>40980752
he's proud of his test scores from the 4th grade rofl, i didn't even bother responding to that part

>>40979769 (OP)
Wasn't JK Rowling only ever a " no perverts in my bathroom" transphobe? Like just don't be weird and she won't even notice? I feel like she got hated on super hard for no reason, and our movement blew itself up by not reigning itself in. Am I wrong? What horrible shit has she done/said? I feel like we didn't stop our crusaders from going a step too far

>>40980752
I'm not bragging the testing was used to sucker me into forced psychotherapy. I didn't enjoy it.

>>40980735
I dunno maybe like 10% Turkic and the rest European mutt. I don't think Turks are arab but I certainly have some steppe invader genes in me.

You need to remember that politics largely works on vibes these days. The overall impression, especially high-profile events and flashpoints, dominate narratives and opinions even if they aren’t actually representative.

So here are a few vibes:

(1) Anti-woke backlash. This isn’t trans specific, but it’s been a long time coming. I think even /tttt/ will agree that woke culture hit a point of true absurdity within the last 5 years. Things like “latinx” getting promoted as more tolerant language when even latino people don’t like it. Things like Harvard students complaining that the bahn mi in their dining hall is cultural appropriation. And, for our part, things like “birthing persons” or “people who lactate” replacing “women” to be trans inclusive.

(2) Bad trans optics. Megahons winning swimming competitions. Gigahons screaming in Gamestop. Dodecahons demanding that their balls get waxed. Even people who aren’t terminally online know of these. Most recently, we even have shooters. Again, it does not matter if it’s unrepresentative; these are the instances that live in the public’s head.

(3) Lies. When we were at peak trans, there were some genuine lies which were not only being held up as truth—but to even question them meant you were a Transphobic Bad Person who should be fired. I don’t mean “they’re really a woman and not a man,” that’s just semantics. I mean lies like “puberty blockers are completely reversible with no long-term consequences.” I mean lies like “nobody would actually claim trans status just to get away with mischief.” I mean lies like “there is no such thing as social contagion as a cause in some cases.”

(4) Scapegoating. As another anon pointed out, the trans population makes for a relatively convenient target / distraction. Public opinion going south is, to some degree, a deliberate tactic in that regard. But it’s only possible with (1), (2), and (3).

>>40980776
if Bernie had a confederate flag at his rallies and said something about "rising again" he would instantly get 90% of the popular vote and his political opposition would get lynched

>>40980277
>this is what the puberty blocker debate was about, they let the person pause their development and actually think about what they want

delusion. gender is not a choice. you cannot stop nature because "muh individuality". i'll do anything what is in my hand to stop this madness

>>40980277
>>40980827
i dont support circumcision by any mean since still child mutilation. but it cannot be compared to an orchi or a SRS. foreskin is a piece of skin but still unmoral, but choping your dick is absolutely unhuman

>>40980827
You kinda can though, your just some rando trying to stop a random ass community of people from doing something weird. Of course being a tranny isn't the same as being cis but its still a thing to be, why is it your issue?

>>40980845
SRS is circumcision 2.0
the purpose in both cases is to allow women to prevent men from experiencing sexual pleasure

>>40980766
>psychotherapy
you probably could have used it if your hobbies now involve screaming at anonymous trannies online
>>40980776
> Anti-woke backlash
i'm still in shock that there are whole ass elected politicians saying the word "woke"
the right are truly retarded
> Again, it does not matter if it’s unrepresentative; these are the instances that live in the public’s head.
sure but this is right-wing propaganda, not trans people having bad optics.
> I mean lies like “there is no such thing as social contagion as a cause in some cases.”
this is true though lol
> Scapegoating [...] But it’s only possible with (1), (2), and (3).
the first 3 are just right-wing propaganda and cherrypicking
rightoids are fucking retarded and it makes me so miserable to think about the dumbest middle-school bullies now being in charge of society
China is going to overthrow us because of this fucking stupidity.
they let their smartest people rule over them, we are cooked

>>40980872
I mean we are winning and your kind is becoming illegal. Do I really care if you hate me?

>>40980906
> we
and there you go, you reveal how pathetic your life is...
you need to align yourself with this retarded "crusade" to make up for your complete lack of personality and accomplishments
>your kind is becoming illegal
where? i'm not even american.
>Do I really care if you hate me?
no? you should care that you're clearly a fucking loser lmao
go do something about that instead of bothering us

>>40980906
owned!!!!

>>40980906
Even youjew polling is showing the bubbling out man
Turns out people don't like niggers being allowed to have nigger moments without consequences no matter how much they screech about le trannies

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>40980075
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>40980925
>same obnoxiousness
>same typing style
>same arguments word for word
>same behavior
Are /pol/jeets bots?

Don’t fuck with the kids and Americans are ok with pretty much everything

The trans movement decided to openly and publicly support giving hormones to kids

- Pronoun bullshit
- "transwomen are women"
- The Poonami Tsunami Outbreak

>>40983120
Cringe retard

Trans women are men.

Transphobes are over generalizing, self hating retards. Every last one of them. Iq of 80, if you're lucky.

>>40979810
truke.
twitter was like 75% bots when elon bought it lol. 90% of engagement comes from 10% of accounts.

Almost all the anti-trans bills are being put forth by legislators, not the public. They do that because they know normal people do not care that much about us. Normal people might have shitty opinions about us, but they don't care so much one way or another about their shitty opinions.

Why are politicians doing this, why have they got this far--they're distracting from how rancid their policies, when they even have them, are for their own base. it's the classic "look at this other group, get mad at this thing I'm lying about, not at me destroying your social safety net/giving all our money to Israel/insider trading" as they engage in corrupt and generally vile behavior.

they got this far into power because of decades of failures from the Democrats, and because both political parties love big donors and ultimately suck ass. And because they basically focus group tested which aspect of trans people would make cis people care even a little. They fucked up on bathroom bans big time, at first, and then paused and went for youth transitioning and "fairness in sports." Then they talked about it ad nauseam, adding bigger and bigger lies.

so, here we are.

>>40979769 (OP)
People don't like it when they come after children and I don't mean about acceptance.

>>40983416
literally the exact same rhetoric as was used to oppose gay marriage

all you had to do was stay away from kids and sports

>>40983422
I'm sorry I wasn't clear I meant to say as THEIR children.
Some of the thing shouldn't be teaching kids in school: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HJDQVXmqyhE
There was other one where teacher allowed book about fellatio in school.
And please don't bring in gay they aren't the same as trans, many gays took offense then they are categorized with trans.

>>40983474
saar

>>40983474
the people who say "stay away from kids" generally believe that gayness is a disease/socially contagious and shouldn't be taught in schools as well

>>40983416
Ironic when it's actually Republicans that need to leave kids alone. Pedophile and conman worshippers. And trans people do nothing wrong and the b-but the kids stuff, is just gay panic 2025 and if you should be fed to a wood chipper if you believe it. Disingenuous pearl clutching cult.

>>40980722
Most Americans don't use proper grammar.
People are OCD and suicidal with depression meds making them mentally ill.
Be yourself enjoy life , and beat pimps and hooker shemales !

>>40979769 (OP)
> stopped stocking Harry Potter
You answered your own question.
It wasn't about accepting trannies, it was about controlling others.

>>40979769 (OP)
Trannies got tricked into making themselves look as bad as possible and convinced that doing so was a good thing and that also they were winning and that also it wasn't their fault that nobody liked them and they have no control over it.
Basically trannies are the ideal useful idiot. To prove me right I will get seething replies that won't refute this.

>>40983713
ik this is half joking but its way more true than it ought to be

>>40983422
gays jettisoned everyone with even a hint of nambla
gays understood the rules and played the game
if you want your rights, you must play to the movable middle. you must be the victim, and the phobes must be the bullies.
you must be the reasonable party, the phobes must be the unreasonable party.
you must seem open to compromise, the phobes must seem intractable and stubborn.
etc. etc.
trannies never played this worse. trannies are now the obnoxious unresoanble bullies, while rowling plays the downtrodden victim. the WORST outcome you can imagine.
you transsisters are supposed to have high iq, aren't you?

>>40983724
dont blame me i just got here :(

1) anti progressive reaction
2) the incestuous nature of the British politics/media sphere
3) massive amounts of money flowing from US evangelical lobby groups

>>40983748
or it could have been women's sports

>>40979769 (OP)
mainly a far-right 'religious' lobby supporting anti-trans voices
the less immediate cause is that trans acceptance was built upon about a century of research and clinical practice, starting from a position generally aligned with the values and expectations of society
over time those arguably rigid views were challenged, first arguing that conforming to a cross-sexed heteronormativity was not necessary to access care
likewise pushing the idea that it was about gender and not sex, and thereby arguing for lax gatekeeping
eventually you get the internet teens screaming about full gender abolitionism, self id, and dismantling the care apparatus which is umm bad ackshully
divided the community, weakened the institutions, and misaligned with society ....
add in some economic woes and it was very obviously made vulnerable and offered up on a silver platter

>>40983808
correct! faux concern around womens sports is a wedge issue used by these lobby groups to exert influence. it's a good one too. "men trouncing women in their segregated sports leagues" is an evocative image and earns lots of clicks. of course no one's actually interested in the facts behind the issue when you can just flood the zone with bullshit.

>>40979810
>The only way people wouldn't support troons is MUH MEDIA MANIPULATION
You sound just as bad as MAGAtard election deniers. Both sides are insane

>>40983833
nearly all "TERF" ism comes from britbongery, which is a genuinely subhuman cattle country with the government controling everything in it
It's not a stretch to say that its rise wasn't at least partially caused by interference of a couple wealthy people funding media

>>40983724
>the billionaire plays the victim
anybody with a hint of a brain would recognize the irony
>the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you

The majority was always bigoted, they just felt shamed for speaking up about it until others did.
They know that fundamentally oppressing minorities isn't a good thing, but when it's normalised and you can imagine the oppressed as an existential enemy because others have told you they are, because governments have legislated against them on that basis, etc then it's a given.
It's just like gays in the 80s all over again except this time they lost.

>>40983474
>Some of the thing shouldn't be teaching kids in school: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HJDQVXmqyhE
You realize the person in the video is... not even subtly, but blatantly and obviously taking the piss right?

Conservatives really aren't sending their best.

>"win"
>becoming increasingly obnoxious, outright defending abusive men, fucking over women
>still haven't managed to spread their retardation anywhere past anglo and anglocucked land
they lost half of their acronym just for nothing

>>40980776
>You need to remember that politics largely works on vibes these days
that's how politics has always worked
every so often there is a moral crusade or "backlash". mccarthyism, nixons silent majority, satanic panic, family values crusades, monica lewinsky hysteria, bush's defence of marriage and so on and so forth.
every time they run out of steam because they make themselves look ridiculous, unreasonable and hilarious. the play here is exactly the same as always, but trannies insist on fuelling it by behaving exactly like the phobes claim, instead of understanding and playing the vibe game.

>>40983724
I really do love the fact that being a billionaire who threatens to take away a hated minority group's rights is seen as being a victim of bullying because people on fucking twitter made posts about how they didn't like her.

>>40979769 (OP)
>Trans people were being accepted and seen as normal just a few years ago.

People didn't know about transbians back then. Trans girls were just seen as hyper gay men who wanted cis man cock.

>>40983885
>>40983891
Most people aren't that plugged in, the default moderate left normie opinion (judging by my family) is "transsexuals exist but I think it got a little out of hand" and they don't know J.K Rowling as anyone besides the Harry Potter lady.

>>40983915
also for some reason dad was afraid of me getting SRS but then he started deliberating on if my tits would come in good based on our genetics like it was a good thing, dunno if that's common but that's a dad moment for you