Thread 41048229

Trial run edition.

ITT trannies who wanna unlearn their agab socialization and learn the socialization of the opposite gender, or even something in between.

Requisites:
>namefag or tripfag if you wanna help from me.
Since every person has a specific socialization, you can't expect me to give general recs. Plus I don't like conformist normies who follow the rules of the website.
>Tell your agab, your hobbies, your mental illnesses
Same reason as above.

Main methodology:
>Vigotsky theory of proximal development
https://youtube.com/shorts/XKPRl9WALRM
>Hermeneutics
Find something on your own, train your brain on how to interpret texts differently, since only this way you will understand how the opposite gender reasons, and also their speech patters.
Recommended is to skin Kabbalah exegesis.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardes_(exegesis)
But mostly you need a plastic mind to be molded as you wish, so try to create some wacky game theories or whatnot to learn how to be able to achieve a different (immaterial) gender expression.
>Gender binary
In here the gender binary has to do with the approach to art.
Some things are less approachable for females, some things are less approachable for males, some things are approachable by both genders, but for different reasons.

Example: dwarf fortress vs romantasy.
LotR read for FrodoxSam fanfics, LotR read for the lore.
Yaois vs Bara.
The importance is not to have read the books or played the games, it's to understand why are they enjoyable for the opposite gender.
So the goal is to consume a certain series of media works that increasingly have more and more of the things that the opposite gender likes, obviously starting from what you like as a person.

For example: you can't jump straight into a fantasy Yaoi if you claim to be a big fan of fantasy, but have only ever interracted with it through Warhammer lore (same goes the opposite way). You need to slowly pick stuff that is similar but less and less malebrained stuff.
Start with a norse saga, then go with a norse mythology, then a celtic love story, then a romantasy heavy on lore, then a pure romantasy, then a romance manga, then a yaoi manga heavy on lore, then a fantasy yaoi manga.
At least this is what I envision, since it's tough to find something close enough to get the change in how fembrained or malebrained tried to be the author. And not "getting" why is the book or the game or the movie is supposed to be enjoyable equals to not making any progress in your your trying to achieve the opposite gender. I've seen at least one pooner (who everyone would claim to be malebrained) talking about her ffxiv crush. My guess is that if she didn't chose to go head first in this game, and instead got the appeal that it has for a man, she wouldn't be the one to tell me her husbando.
Hopefully other anons will be able to help, since I have fantasy autism, so I wouldn't be able to help with scifi fags, or fags who wish to learn to enjoy embroidery or whatever.

Last but not least:
How male art works, how female art works.
Men have art divided into three sections, I'm gonna use games and music to explain them:
>Indie games
Artistically interesting, but don't have enough resources to actually extress well enough. Women and autistic men like them.
Whatever you find by browsing for a very long time bandcamp.
>AA
Games made by a group of 30 devs. They have enough money to be good, so they use them to establish themselves on the market. For example: From Software is so beloved because they never stopped being that. No Man's Sky is another example, Helldivers 2 (maybe idk), etc.
For music, it's Radioheads, it's /mu/core.
>AAA
triple A games maximize their profit. It's FIFA, it's the current movie game from the PS folks.
For music it's Metro Boomin.

Now, men (just like women) don't always have only one type of content.
They might consume a nettspend while they play CoD. Don't do the mistake of wanting to learn more about being a "nerd". It's fucking weird when I see someone playing only Sseth content. Diversify, but not inside a single group.
You wanna be an expert on something huge: men don't go around playing 50 different MOBAs, they don't learn 50 different religions. Pick one and stick to it.

Women have three categories, but they are more fluid (a book might have one or two of them):
>Cozy
Cat videos, Domestic fiction.
Trannies try to achieve this look, but again, it's weird to only see basically an age regressor claiming to be a woman with a straight face.
>Elegant
50 shades of grey, dark romance novels.
Don't think that the mafia boss that does the CNC with the protagonist is a macho in the male sense of the word. He has a rolex, 5 mils ready to be spent on his wife and a resort.
>Trash
Gossip, the Kardashians, body horror.
Again, a woman who watches cat videos doesn't exclusive do so.

General rec for mtfs: opposite to what I said to the ftms. Don't stick to one thing. They jump from one fandom to the other.

>>41048444
how was your sandwich my brother

>>41048498
Gloves ate it while lunging toward Terje...

Participating in this thread is deeply and firmly moidbrained though

>>41048606
If you are an MtF, then you should understand that you must start with malebrainedness to reach fembrainedness.
If you are an FtM, then this would be the first step in malebrainedness.
Again, it's not important what you do, but how you do it.

I'll bite because I'm mainly bored
>AMAB (lateshit mtf tranner)
>Videogames, Drawing, Music (listening and playing(bass))
>Bipolar Type II (formally diagnosed, on meds)
Specifically used to enjoy JRPGs for the story and character design/development. My main played genre is MMORPGs. I like some indie games and friendslop, too. I mainly enjoy playing with others.
I draw for fun, but haven't done it in a bit (thanks, low motivation). For Bass, I unironically started because Bocchi the Rock inspired me (Specifically Kikuri) and went from there. Stumbled upon something I ended up genuinely enjoying, I like how the bass feels on my hands and how it reverberates through my chest when I play.

What's the diagnosis, doc? How fucked I am?

>>41048714
>How fucked I am?
if you're asking in this thread you're beyond help lmaoh

>>41048752
I know how fucked/not fucked I am. I just want OP's assessment. And also, as I said, I'm bored.

>>41048229 (OP)
>>41048232
>>41048444
i know almost nothing on that list past a couple of games/anime + dc comics, marvel and godzilla
and project sekai but never played it. Looks good doe
t. fag
>Yaois vs Bara.
>you cannot like anything past fat hairy expired faggots or you're a female

>>41048229 (OP)
>Babymetal skews heavily male
>Godzilla skews heavily male
>Chainsaw man, Evangelion, Resident Evil, Marvel Avengers skews more male
most of the fans Ive met of these in europe have been afab somehow. No idea if other eurofags can relate or I just bump into a lot of outliers

>>41048714
>How fucked I am?
Almost fucked. I don't like the nips enough to give you a complete list of things to consume. Hopefully someone else can.
But overall you are on that spot that an FtM could be.
>the story and character design/development
I'm not really into that kind of stuff, but I probably can help you a little bit.
Check out
https://archive.org/details/alichinovolume10000shur/mode/1up
And anything that is similar. It's 3 volumes cancelled series.
I think that you might be able to go through Crescent City (the series of novels), it's autistic as fuck and it has that jrpg feel to it, but it has a strong romance side which I don't know if you could stomach, and the nips have a different type of romance than the westerners.
>Bipolar II
Personal curiosity, can you read a 150 pages book in that period of time?
Try checking out those cozy japanese books like "if cats disappeared from the world", "days at the morisaki bookshop", maybe even banana yoshimoto (if you decide to read her, check out her book "Kitchen")? They are very japanese, very short, but they don't have much in terms of lore or whatever.
This way you might pick a cozy romance like Pumpkin Spice Cafe (which I haven't read, but it should be one of those cozy romances). And then get into the smut.
>My main played genre is MMORPGs
That's already pretty fembrained, since it's social, try and check less stats heavy games. Never tried roblox, maybe you are from the generation that grew up on it.
You gotta learn to enjoy
>I like some indie games
Name them.
>Bocchi the Rock
Have you watched that Kyoto Animation anime about that school band?
Also, nice hobby.
Since you are into music, you gotta post what music you like. You gotta check out the riot grrrl genre.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_(band)

>>41048999
My local Gorillaz fan who went to study fine art was a fan of Baby Monster.
But he wasn't gay.
>>41048818
As I said, the "approach" is what is important.
The reason why anyone would wanna read yaois rather than baras is not just because one has twinks in it and the other bears.
The romance is different.
Convince a gayden to read Crush by Richard Siken and ask them to explain it to you. You'll realize how it filters them.
Why aren't there many fags jerking off to kpop? Because those twink have a fembrained approach. Maybe some don't get bothered by it, maybe some like it, but it doesn't mean that a fag who only reads bara will appreciate his first yaoi for the foreplay, the innuendos and the plot.
Some of this shit is clearly written by a virgin woman, come on.
>>41049149
After Pumpkin Spice Cafe, read Twilight first, then The Cruel Prince, then Dance of Thieves.

>>41048229 (OP)
i think that your analysis fails to include those hobbies not based in the consumption of media is indicative of its fundamental failings
especially in light of the fact that there is a significant gender disparity in such hobbies - which is to say that it is mainly men who don’t engage in them, and you are clearly a man, who, perhaps, doesn’t know many women

>>41048229 (OP)
AGAB - Klinefilters AMAB
Hobbies - Reading (Classics and modern Fantasy and Romantasy- im a R.F Kuang Stan). Guitar (both acoustic and electric) Flute and Piccolo. Hiking, Writing.

You say you have fantasy autism so ill show my bookcase
Powerless Trilogy
The Last One Rachel Hall
Babel, Poppy War trilogy, Katabasis - R.F Kuang
This is How you lose the time War (Gladstone)
Circe (Madeline Miller)
Assistant to the Villain (Hannah Maehrer)

Unfortunately im still malebrained

>>41049149
Sadly, my music taste is pretty malebrained, since I like stuff like Iron Maiden and 80s dadrock thrash metal...
But I also like JRock and Math Rock a bit to compensate (Mainly Tricot, Yousei Teikoku, Release Hallucinations, Nanawo Akari, etc)
My main MMORPG is FFXIV, which is pretty heavily focused on story. Not as much on gear/stats as others, admittedly.
>Indie games
Stuff like Risk of Rain 2, REPO, Lethal Company, all games I can play with friends over voice, or have proximity voice chat, mainly.
>BTR
If you mean K-on, yes. If you mean Rock wa Lady no Tashinami Deshite, also yes

>>41052345
This is Patchyposter, I forgot to put my name back on, don't hate me