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Anonymous No.41428696 [Report] >>41428707 >>41428759 >>41428777 >>41428982 >>41429414 >>41429420 >>41430072
Will the AGP thoughts stop if I just self-harm whenever I get them?
Anonymous No.41428707 [Report] >>41428721
>>41428696 (OP)
yeah try it
Anonymous No.41428710 [Report] >>41428719
cutting thread!!!!!!!!!! im thinking abt cutting my thighs desu
Anonymous No.41428719 [Report]
>>41428710
yeah do it
Anonymous No.41428721 [Report] >>41428763
>>41428707
really need to condition myself to be attracted to guys and not to myself getting fucked by guys, I want to be normal
Anonymous No.41428726 [Report] >>41428749
No. Why even fight it? Embrace the girl that you know that you can be.
Anonymous No.41428748 [Report] >>41428755 >>41428899
what do you all use to cut? ive tried razors and a pocket knife, the razors feel too unwieldy though so i want something with a bit more control
Anonymous No.41428749 [Report]
>>41428726
Because I want to be a normal trans girl and not a freak, I won't ever allow myself to stop boymoding unless I defeat these disgusting thoughts
Anonymous No.41428755 [Report]
>>41428748
Usually just razor blades, they cut through my skin so easily
Anonymous No.41428759 [Report] >>41428771
>>41428696 (OP)
Just be gay? You don't have to be a girl to get fucked by a guy, you know
Anonymous No.41428763 [Report]
>>41428721
90% of guys are chopped good luck sis
Anonymous No.41428771 [Report]
>>41428759
Because the thought of looking like a guy makes me wanna rope
Anonymous No.41428777 [Report] >>41428784 >>41428789
>>41428696 (OP)
AGP isn't real, you are sublimating your trans desires through porn.

If you want to make them go away, go on hormones. As your body feminizes it will become normal to you.
Anonymous No.41428784 [Report] >>41428788
>>41428777
AGP is what causes trans desires.
Anonymous No.41428788 [Report] >>41428790
>>41428784
There is no such thing as AGP. Being aroused by the thought of yourself as feminine and desirable is a normal part of female sexuality. If AGP is real, most cis women have it.
Anonymous No.41428789 [Report] >>41428796
>>41428777
I've been on HRT for over a year though, but my brain constantly tells me every little thing I do is AGP
Anonymous No.41428790 [Report] >>41428796
>>41428788
I am male, it's wrong to have female sexuality (if it's that), hence AGP.
Anonymous No.41428796 [Report] >>41428808 >>41428816
>>41428789
That's probably years of internet brain-poison still clinging to you. Plus low self-esteem. Do you hang out with other trans people IRL? Please tell me this place isn't your main source of interaction with trans people.
>>41428790
No, buddy. That's being trans. You're just calling being trans AGP.
Anonymous No.41428808 [Report] >>41428813
>>41428796
Without AGP I would have no reason to imagine being female and find it desirable.
Anonymous No.41428813 [Report] >>41428822
>>41428808
You imagine yourself as female and see that version of yourself as desirable in a way that your male body isn't.

Sorry, bitch, that's trans. You're just calling it something else.
Anonymous No.41428816 [Report]
>>41428796
I have online trans friends, mostly met them through frengen but a lot less brainwormed than I am
Anonymous No.41428822 [Report] >>41428863 >>41428878
>>41428813
Okay, but why is it so arousing? Women are not attracted to their own body or their clothes.
Anonymous No.41428863 [Report] >>41428873
>>41428822
every time i see someone say this i know they havent had much if any sex with women. women are extremely autogynephilic. theres even studies showing that the rates are higher in cis women than trans women, but i dont even need a study to tell me. nothing gets a foid as wet as making them feel sexy and feminine. if anything, the more agp you are the more trutrans you are. but 4chan retards will never face reality
Anonymous No.41428873 [Report] >>41428892
>>41428863
I am extremely AGP and it's mostly suffering to yearn for something I'll never have.
Anonymous No.41428878 [Report] >>41428916
>>41428822
Cis women are aroused by the idea of their body being desirable. That is just a fact.

Eggs like you often focus on the arousal for three reasons;

That isn't normal for men and you don't know enough about cis women to know it's normal for them so you just feel like an aberration.

Expressing your trans desires through porn feels "safer". You can write it off as just a fetish. Well, you can try to do that, and maybe it'll work for a while. But since you aren't expressing your trans desires in a healthy way (i.e. by transitioning) they just get worse. And since you've already decided it's just a fetish, you feel more and more like a freak as those desires weigh on you.

and finally, because you can't see your actual IRL body as desirable, you lack the ability to imagine yourself as a partner in an IRL sexual situation. So your sex drive turns inward and the natural development of your sexuality and your understanding of it become stunted.

Basically, it's a vicious trap that breeds self-loathing. The only way out is to start expressing your inner truth in a healthy way. You gotta take the girl juice.
Anonymous No.41428892 [Report] >>41428916
>>41428873
ah, another classic sign of the desperately repressed trans person. Because you are only allowing yourself to express your trans desires through porn, naturally your #transitiongoals are porn. Porn, of course, isn't real. So you have set an impossible standard for yourself. You have this hard line that you know (or at least think)* is beyond your reach, and everything below it isn't worth anything. If you can't be the sexy Link cosplayer, why even bother?

This is obviously stupid. You know it's stupid. If a guy came up to you and said that he really, really, really wants to get buff, but he knows he'll never look exactly like the guy from Jack Reacher so there's no point even going to the gym, you'd tell him that's stupid.
Anonymous No.41428899 [Report] >>41428905 >>41428913
>>41428748
I used a scalpel

I've been free from sh for years and years but idk. my life has gotten immeasurably worse since then and it's now always in the back of my mind, and I'm constantly irrationally jealous of people with more extensive + more visible scars than me. Am I retarded?
Anonymous No.41428905 [Report]
>>41428899
Could you try expressing this through tattoos or piercings instead?
Anonymous No.41428913 [Report] >>41428975
>>41428899
i know how you feel. maybe not exactly, but the gist of it at the very least. i feel like im faking and a poserand i need more to make myself valid
Anonymous No.41428916 [Report] >>41428969 >>41428975
>>41428878
Fuck, you are good at this, I never felt so seen, exposed even. It's like you understand me more than I understand myself.
>>41428892
Porn isn't exactly what I want. Just to be beautiful to myself and someone else. It's no less unrealistic, though.
Anonymous No.41428969 [Report] >>41429105
>>41428916
Genuinely, I went through the exact same fucking thing.

I'm very early on in my transition myself. I don't know how attractive I'm going to be. But I can tell you that when I decided I was going to do it, when I made the call to set up my first appointment for gender care, it was like there had been a steel band around my chest my whole life and it suddenly came loose and I could breathe deeper than ever before.

Stuff is hard, and you are never guaranteed anything in life. But I promise you, you deserve more. You deserve to love yourself. And the only way to do that is to start moving in the direction of a version of you you can love. Maybe you'll never reach that dream you out there. But every step towards it is a gift to yourself. And you will look back and see what you have done for yourself, and you will like the person who did that for you.
Anonymous No.41428975 [Report] >>41429113 >>41429329
>>41428913
please, please don't do that to yourself
your body deserves your love
there is no such thing as faking what you are and want to be; what you're experiencing is discomfort and the belief you're not doing it "well enough," but nobody healthy or kind or loving would ever think that of you
please remember that as a mantra: no one decent other than yourself would ever think the things you do about yourself
unironically, would you please cut the ingredients for some food instead? make something tasty, build your body beautifully
chili is wonderful this time of year and doesn't take much effort

>>41428916
nta but you can and will be beautiful to yourself and someone else
if there's one thing I've learned in two years of transition, it's that beauty starts inside first, as kindness and generosity to self, and appears on the outside when you learn to be loving, to yourself and others
beauty isn't facial features or body type but how you wield the power of choice, how we all choose every day to be beautiful to one another
I've been amazed again and again to find that whether students take me as a woman has much more to do with how I act toward them than how I look that day
you might find you "become" beautiful by focusing on kindness and generosity and how you treat yourself and others exactly because beauty is the softness and gentleness of your face and body that comes from a spirit at peace
I'm not being kitschy; I have relatively sharp features now although they're softening, and on days where I know I'm wearing a harsh expression because I'm acting unlike myself, I look more like a man, and vice versa; it's in how you work to feel internally and how that appears on the outside
you are so much more than your aesthetic. please remember
Anonymous No.41428982 [Report]
>>41428696 (OP)
They'll stop if you quit porn.
Anonymous No.41429105 [Report]
>>41428969
How did you decide to start?
Anonymous No.41429113 [Report]
>>41428975
youre a very sweet person anon. i hope you have a good life
Anonymous No.41429329 [Report]
>>41428975
I hope I'll learn to love myself one day, it's really hard. But you motivate me to keep trying
Missee No.41429414 [Report]
>>41428696 (OP)
No you need several children
Anonymous No.41429420 [Report]
>>41428696 (OP)
no youll probably just get turned on every time you cut. start e faggot
Anonymous No.41430072 [Report]
>>41428696 (OP)
maybe you should try conversion therapy that uses psychological tactics like shame instead of physical pain cause physical pain doesn't do much for psychological stuff but shame and other kinds of psych hurt can bury your feelings and make you like a zombie