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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 12:11:22 AM No.24418232
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Post and discuss about any history book.

>The Last Lion: Winston Spencer Churchill: Visions of Glory, 1874-1932 by William Manchester

>Manchester follows Churchill from his birth to 1932, when he began to warn against the re-militarization of Germany. Born of an American mother and the gifted but unstable son of a duke, his childhood was one of wretched neglect. He sought glory on the battlefields of Cuba, Sudan, India, South Africa and the trenches of France. In Parliament he was the prime force behind the creation of Iraq and Jordan, laid the groundwork for the birth of Israel, and negotiated the independence of the Irish Free State. Yet, as Chancellor of the Exchequer he plunged England into economic crisis, and his fruitless attempt to suppress Gandhi's quest for Indian independence brought political chaos to Britain.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17374322-the-last-lion

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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 1:35:15 AM No.24418392
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In the Days of McKinley by Margaret Leech

>William McKinley, who served as the nationโ€™s President from 1897 to 1901, led the United States during the Spanish-American War. The United States annexed the Philippines during his presidency. McKinley became a person of great public interest, and thousands of Americans flocked to meet him and hear him speak. He excited, motivated his audience. He was assassinated by an anarchist soon after his reelection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McKinley

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/167949602-in-the-days-of-mckinley-easton-press-library-of-american-presidents
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 3:22:43 AM No.24418582
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The Steel Bonnets: The Story of the Anglo-Scottish Border Reivers by George MacDonald Fraser

>From the thirteenth to the sixteenth centuries, outlaws reigned supreme on the contentious frontier between England and Scotland. Feud and terror, raid and reprisal were the ordinary stuff of lifeand a way of survival. Power was held by the notorious border reivers (the steel bonnets,โ€ named for their flashy helmets), clan-loyal raiders, freebooters, plunderers, and rustlers who robbed and murdered in the name of family: the famous clanslike Elliot, Armstrong, Charlton, and Robsonromanticized by Sir Walter Scott. They were the last opponents to the Acts of Union of 1707, and fought fiercely and fancifully to the end.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/133693421-the-steel-bonnets
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 3:36:13 AM No.24418617
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>>24418232 (OP)
read pic related last year

>War in European History by Michael Eliot Howard

>First published over thirty years ago, War in European History is a brilliantly written survey of the changing ways that war has been waged in Europe, from the Norse invasions to the present day. Far more than a simple military history, the book serves as a succinct and enlightening overview of the development of European society as a whole over the last millennium. From the Norsemen and the world of the medieval knights, through to the industrialized mass warfare of the twentieth century, Michael Howard illuminates the way in which warfare has shaped the history of the Continent, its effect on social and political institutions, and the ways in which technological and social change have in turn shaped the way in which wars are fought. This new edition includes a fully updated further reading and a new final chapter bringing the story into the twenty-first century, including the invasion of Iraq and the so-called War against Terror..

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18867265-war-in-european-history
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 3:37:40 AM No.24418618
looking for good cultural history or books that mix anthropology with history.
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 4:03:00 AM No.24418650
what should a man read to get a basic understanding of world history? im also fairly interested in the more immediate 20th century and 19th century and whatever helps contextualize the current year.
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 4:45:07 AM No.24418739
>>24418232 (OP)

the fuck is this? haven't they heard of the "Lion of Panjshir"??

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Massoud
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 5:11:04 AM No.24418791
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Dreadnought: Britain, Germany and the Coming of the Great War by Robert K. Massie

>Published in 1991, Dreadnought focuses on the Anglo-German naval arms race and the broader European power struggle during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It blends biography, diplomacy, and naval history into a comprehensive prelude to the Great War.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2108193.Dreadnought
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 6:05:14 AM No.24418889
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>>24418650
>what should a man read to get a basic understanding of world history?
The Timetables of History - Bernard Grun
A History of Civilizations - Fernand Braudel
A Short History of the World - Geoffrey Blainey
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 6:12:23 AM No.24418900
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>>24418618
1491 and 1493 by Charles Mann
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 9:21:12 AM No.24419190
>>24418889
thanks mang. will look out for these.
picked up Bill Bryson's A Short History of Everything because it was cheap. is it better not to read it at all?
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 10:38:24 AM No.24419269
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Henry of Lancaster's Expedition to Aquitaine
>This reassessment of a neglected campaign draws on a wealth of original source material to furnish an examination of the campaign "in the round"; recruitment, preparations and financial administration, as well as its events and achievements, are examined closely. A detailed biographical study of the individuals who took up arms under Lancaster's command forms a main part of this work: the portrayal of hundreds of careers in arms allows us to glean a sense of what life was like for soldiers in this army and in the later Middle Ages in general. An investigation of the men's martial experience, motivations for service and personal military networks provides an understanding of how and, indeed, why the army was so effective in the field of war. It also reveals much about the emergence of professionalism in English medieval armies and offers a reassessment of Lancaster's importance as a captain, administrator and diplomat, and above all, as a successful military commander.

Personally I liked this one quite a lot. If you want to know how a 14th century army was organised and actually run this is the book I'd recommend.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 6:15:45 PM No.24420188
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Wagons West by Frank McLynn

>Seeking the promised land, the pioneers trekked 2,000 miles by covered wagon from the Missouri to the Pacific. They went into the unknown, braving dangers from hunger, thirst, disease, drowning and Indians. The year-by-year narrative builds to a climax with the dreadful tale of the Donner party marooned in the snow and reduced to cannibalism.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3964094-wagons-west
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 7:20:55 PM No.24420350
>>24418900
Thanks but something a bit more academic
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 7:31:28 PM No.24420385
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I remember a thread earlier this year about a modern day "Parallel Lives", and De Gaulle's name was floated there a lot. I'm not done with pic rel yet, but I truly think De Gaulle is among the last of the "Great Men" in the classic sense of the term.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 9:37:30 PM No.24420759
Finally finished Herodotus' Histories.
Pretty good. Liked the parts about Lidya, Egypt, Scythians, everything about Persians was interesting.
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 3:05:09 AM No.24421475
>>24420759
I prefer Thucydides, but Herodotus is cool, feels like he's just shooting the shit with the reader
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 4:12:32 AM No.24421603
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>>24418232 (OP)
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 12:35:43 PM No.24422450
Just finished reading South Pole by Roald Amundsen. It is 90% about skiing, weather conditions and killing dogs
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 7:38:13 PM No.24423309
bump
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 7:56:46 PM No.24423373
>>24418232 (OP)
>lion
Churchill was a Rothschild dog. After the bankers paid off his gambling debts, they owned him and he was their puppet.
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 8:48:32 PM No.24423488
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>>24418232 (OP)

Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel by Alison Weir

A concise overview of the actions American and the British Jews undertook to found Israel and Israel's early actions. Well worth a read.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20919295-against-our-better-judgment
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 9:30:44 PM No.24423582
>>24419190
>picked up Bill Bryson's A Short History of Everything because it was cheap. is it better not to read it at all?
Might as well read it if you've got it already; then you can return here with your thoughts on it :-)
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 10:30:07 PM No.24423710
Anything you guys could recommend about the intricacies of being a lord and land ownership and administration? I'm particularly looking to understand how aristocrats managed and kept track of estates hundreds of kilometers away, and how that differed from how involved they were compared to the land where they actually lived.
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 11:12:47 PM No.24423822
>>24418232 (OP)
>The Last Shabbos Goy: Churchill and his Debtors
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 11:56:09 PM No.24423922
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>>24418232 (OP)
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 12:39:16 AM No.24424027
Looking for good, old and indepth books on the Black Death. Wrote at the time is a bonus, I'm looking for a historical, societal, economical and long overview on it. Multiple books welcome too.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 1:00:06 AM No.24424072
Need books on the creation of the liberal international order.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 1:42:00 AM No.24424173
Need something about jungles or forest and exploration, asia or latin america prefered.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 1:55:34 AM No.24424203
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>>24424173
Highly rec this biography of an extremely interesting man you've probably never heard about before.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 5:29:59 AM No.24424675
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Soldiers and Ghosts: A History of Battle in Classical Antiquity - J. E. Lendon
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 7:18:49 AM No.24424921
>>24423488
They basically exploited us. Good pretext to bomb them
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 7:19:54 AM No.24424925
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>>24424072
From what I know
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 7:36:48 AM No.24424970
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>>24424072
>The Battle of Bretton Woods - Benn Steil
>Upending the conventional wisdom that Bretton Woods was the product of an amiable Anglo-American collaboration, Steil shows that it was in reality part of a much more ambitious geopolitical agenda hatched within President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Treasury and aimed at eliminating Britain as an economic and political rival. At the heart of the drama were the antipodal characters of John Maynard Keynes, the renowned and revolutionary British economist, and Harry Dexter White, the dogged, self-made American technocrat.
>Bringing to bear new and striking archival evidence, Steil offers the most compelling portrait yet of the complex and controversial figure of Whiteโ€•the architect of the dollar's privileged place in the Bretton Woods monetary system, who also, very privately, admired Soviet economic planning and engaged in clandestine communications with Soviet intelligence officials and agents over many years.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 9:33:50 AM No.24425196
>>24424970
I have this. Would you recommend it?
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 10:50:25 AM No.24425305
>>24425196
It's good, but you just have to manage your expectations a bit. It's less about Bretton Woods itself and more about Keynes and White and how they represented essentially different intellectual strands on how the world should look like after the war. So essentially part-intellectual history and part-biography more than anything else.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 1:59:20 PM No.24425632
>>24425305
Alright, thanks. I like intellectual history, such as Isaiah Berlin's works.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:07:31 PM No.24425776
Mesoamerican history nerd here, as usual I'll shill "When Montezuma Met Cortes"

It's a really interesting comparison of different accounts and retellings (+ their various biases and contradictions) of their meeting and the Cortes expedition/the Fall of the Aztec in general. It also acts as a historiography of how it's been retold and presented, with details being distorted over time and leveraged for different ideological/national interests

Plus, it gets into a lot of the personal as well as political background on both Cortes/the Spanish and Moctezuma II/the Aztec: It's one of the better books I've seen to tackle the political dynamics and motives of other Mesoamerican kings and officials like like Xicomecoatl, Ixtlilxochitl II, Xicotencatl II, etc, which is important as very few sources do this despite the fact that those other kings/officials and their motives and interests played a big part of how events played out, and are really almost as important as Cortes and Moctezuma II. This is something I get into myself (including some observations even restall doesn't get into, tho moreso in even longer posts not linked here that me/friends have posted on other sites) here: pastebin.com/h18M28BR and arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/640670498/#640679139 and desuarchive.org/his/thread/16781148/#16781964

I don't agree with absolutely every conclusion Restall makes but it and his prior work "7 Myths of the Spanish Conquest", are pretty much mandatory reading for a decent understanding of the topic just to get an idea of how the different primary sources conflict with each other and skew details

Also pic related is WIP reading chart me and some friends on other sites are working on. I'll probably end up removing Broken Spears from the Conquest section for Collision of Worlds and/or maybe add a few books on the conquests of West Mexico and the Maya regions since currently this is very Central Mexico/Aztec focused, when in reality there were centuries of campaigns and expeditions against Mesoamerican states in other areas: The last Maya kingdoms didn't fall to 1697

If people want more suggestions let me know, tho I read academic papers and watch conferences, or read specific chapters of books while doing research much more then I read full books front to back

>>24418889
>>24418650
>>24419190
Keep in mind most generalist history sources gloss over the Precolumbian Americas, despite the fact it had two of six of the world's major cradles of civilization and a lot of other regions with neat stuff going on

For example, I pulled up the 3 books the other anon suggested (though not the fourth edition specifically of "Timetables..."), and Braudel basically ignores it entirely, and Blainey only talks about it for like a few pages to then talk about the Spanish conquests for a few pages, both are also very, very outdated with errors as a result. Grun was better then I expected but still really limited by it's format and also skips a bunch and is also dated

1/2
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:12:42 PM No.24425784
mesoamerican literature chart WIP TEMP EDIT
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>>24418889
>>24418650
>>24419190
cont:

I'd read >>24418900 as a compliment for any generalist world history book since it's all about explaining how the Americas had way going on then most World History stuff covers, even if it too is also not current to modern scholarship either (not nearly as dated as those other 3)

>>24420350
How much more academic? I'd consider 1491 to lean that way a decent bit. Also, clarify what you mean when you want anthropology mixed in. Like what sort of anthropological lenses or topical focus are you wanting, exactly?

2/2 for now
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:27:14 PM No.24425805
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>>24418232 (OP)
Can I get a recommendation for a history of Australia? Preferably with a focus on the colonial period up till federation.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 4:02:16 PM No.24425860
>>24421475
Will continue with Thucydides later, want to read some ancienter history first. Mesopotamia, Egypt, Hittites, bronze age collapse. Thinking about Eric Cline - 1177 BC and its sequel.
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 5:25:29 PM No.24426007
>>24425776
>>24425784
Based and thanks
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 1:47:33 AM No.24427299
>>24425805
R.W. Connell & T.H. Irving (1979) _Class structure in Australian history: Documents, narrative and argument_
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:19:31 AM No.24427352
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>Allah's Mountains: The Battle for Chechnya by Sebastian Smith is a compelling blend of travelogue, history, and war journalism that explores the conflict between the Chechen mountain tribes and the Russian army, with a focus on the late 1990s. Set in the Caucasus, a region known for its diverse languages and rugged beauty, the book traces centuries of turmoil, where various empiresโ€”Greeks, Persians, Arabs, and Russiansโ€”have clashed. Smith, who reported from Chechnya during the war, details the latest conflict sparked by Vladimir Putin's 1999 invasion, which left thousands dead and Chechen towns devastated. The narrative covers the Chechens' fierce resistance, using simple tactics to hold off the Russian forces, and frames the struggle within the regionโ€™s strategic importance, especially due to its oil pipelines
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:22:10 AM No.24427354
>>24425776
How is the account if Bernal Diaz del Castillo treated nowadays? I always loved reading it when I was a kid.
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:38:00 PM No.24428416
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>>24425776
how is picrel?
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 8:33:18 PM No.24429211
Books discussing low schizo theories about ancient history?
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 10:32:38 PM No.24429618
anyone got any charts to share?
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 10:35:21 PM No.24429625
Russian history books
Russian history books
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>>24429618
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 10:42:39 PM No.24429639
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>>24418232 (OP)
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 10:44:29 PM No.24429644
Test
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 11:45:58 PM No.24429799
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Anonymous
6/1/2025, 1:51:51 AM No.24430197
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>>24418232 (OP)
Are Doris Kearns Goodwin's history books worth reading?

>No Ordinary Time
>Team of Rivals
>The Bully Pulpit
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 3:36:30 AM No.24430429
>>24418232 (OP)
Any general Islam history rec? For example their different subfaiths and their historical trajectory. Imagine Christianity: the first 3000 years but for Islam. Thanks in advance
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 12:31:23 PM No.24431249
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>>24429618
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Anonymous
6/1/2025, 4:17:23 PM No.24431520
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Anonymous
6/1/2025, 8:58:08 PM No.24432208
>>24431249
Very good chart.
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 10:39:39 PM No.24432467
>>24425776
i recently got prescott's works for cheap. how misinformed will i be after i read them?
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 10:45:10 PM No.24432484
About 80% through Gulag: A History by Anne Applebaum. I own The Gulag Archipelago too and will read it eventually but later on. When I look up either of these books I see lots of Marxist faggots criticizing them. Applebaum does seem to be just a journalist, not a historian, and an American married to a Polish guy so I'm sure she doesn't have the kindest most unbiased view of the Soviet Union... everyone is biased to some extent. But I ask these Marxist fags, where is the "correct history" of the Gulag system then, and also, what is your argument, that it was actually good? Lolmao
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 10:52:34 PM No.24432513
Any other books like Travels of marco polo? Exploration notes discovering new lands.
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 12:00:21 AM No.24432715
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>>24432513
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 12:03:28 AM No.24432726
>>24432715
Non nautical would be prefered but thanks for the rec anon.
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 3:22:03 AM No.24433124
>>24432513
the travels of ibn battuta
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 4:20:50 AM No.24433276
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>>24418232 (OP)
These books by Dale Van Every are pretty well written but not easy to find used, I wish someone would reprint them or make decent ebook copies for them.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/54628-the-frontier-people-of-america
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 6:03:32 PM No.24434890
>>24429618
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>>24425784
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 7:06:39 PM No.24435006
Do you have any standout living historians? I am particularly interested in historians of Ancient Rome. Iโ€™ve read Tom Holland. He is okay. Iโ€™ve also read Mary Beard. She is terrible. There seems to be no others of note.
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 12:57:04 AM No.24435792
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>>24425776
Thanks for the Cortรฉs recommendation.
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 2:35:13 AM No.24436050
>>24435006
>standout living historians
>particularly interested in historians of Ancient Rome
Adrian Goldsworthy, Anthony Everitt and Peter Heather.
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 2:56:04 AM No.24436075
>>24418232 (OP)
From a pure narrative point, what conflict was the most interesting in human history?
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 3:37:21 AM No.24436143
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>>24436075
Second Punic War
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 3:52:50 AM No.24436167
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Can history be called a science? Do the methods of historians yield accurate accounts of past events?
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 9:43:00 AM No.24436650
>>24425776
i just came back to this board after years and years and years
why are you still fucking incapable of making a concise post
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 1:26:38 PM No.24436928
>>24423373
>>24423822
Reading this series made me come away realizing Churchill was genuinely a retard and all the post war valorizing of him was propaganda. Not surprised they shuffled him into irrelevance after the war ended.
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 2:57:29 PM No.24437054
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>>24436075
Spring &Autumn Period
Final Byzantine-Sassanid War
2nd Fitna
War[s] of the Lombard League and the Imperial/Papal conflicts
Hundred Years War
Mameluke-Mongol Wars
Chuโ€“Han Contention
Dutch War of Independence
Seven Years War
Napoleonic War
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 8:08:26 PM No.24437786
Bump
Anonymous
6/4/2025, 12:28:21 AM No.24438372
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>>24418232 (OP)
I enjoyed this well enough. Any other newer releases that are worth reading?

>Henry V: The Astonishing Triumph of England's Greatest Warrior King - Dan Jones

>In 1413, when Henry V ascended to the English throne, his kingdom was hopelessly torn apart by political faction and partisanship. Public finances and law and order were in a state of crisis. Pirates tormented the coast; plots, conspiracies, and heresy threatened society. The lingering effects of the worst pandemic in human history continued to menace daily life. And then, in less than ten years, Henry turns it all around. By common consensus in his day, and for hundreds of years afterward, Henry was the greatest medieval king that ever lived. Through skillful leadership, unwavering vision, and seemingly by sheer force of personality, he managed to catapult his realm into the greatest triumphs it has ever he united the political community behind the crown, renewed the justice system, revived Englandโ€™s maritime dominance. And then there are his military achievements in France, most notably the resounding, against-the-odds victory at Agincourt. He was tough, lucky, intelligent, farsighted, and cultured. But he was also, at times, cold, callous, violent, by instinct a traditionalist and even a reactionary.
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 1:24:17 AM No.24438491
>>24436167
Herodotus did pretty good all things considered.

Modern historians can be questionable, but so can ancients
Anonymous
6/4/2025, 1:41:41 AM No.24438542
>>24418232 (OP)
I get choice paralysis with history because there's just so much to choose from and I dont know what to read lol
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 2:24:01 AM No.24438635
>>24438542
If certain historical eras are of interest to you just ask for some recommendations.
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 2:26:17 AM No.24438646
Any book recs for the rise of islam arab conquests?

I know there were tech advances by them and they actually translated stuff into Arabic that later got translated into Latin and read in the west. But I know very little about the origination of the religion and how it lead to most of the middle east becoming that
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 3:12:16 AM No.24438763
>>24438646
First you should read the biography of Muhammad, because the role of Islam as religion was very important in this process. Althought the orientalist and secular minded historiography only looks to the side of material gains, ambition or economical power, religion also plays a role in this case, I should say the main role. So I recommend the book The Noble Life of the Prophet by Ali Muhammad Assalabi.
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 3:58:08 AM No.24438848
>>24438763
What primary sources are there for the period?

Something I've enjoyed about the Greeks and romans is they had historians. Did the Arabs not have that?
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 5:06:57 AM No.24438980
>>24438646
>Any book recs for the rise of islam arab conquests?
don't bother bro there's no real history here. it's all made up
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 6:18:32 AM No.24439084
>>24418582
I read this. It was pretty good and I would recommend it as Iโ€™ve found few books that cover the same subject.
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 6:24:46 AM No.24439092
>>24418650
March of the Titans
Anonymous
6/4/2025, 11:44:24 AM No.24439590
>>24438635
Yes but to understand those eras don't you need to understand what came before
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 1:59:39 PM No.24439808
>>24427354
There's a lot more that can be said about this, but unironically some of the best places to start would be Restall's books which I already suggested, so if you want a more in depth examination, read those.

But basically, like all Conquistador accounts, Diaz is writing primarily to glorify and justify his own actions, so that's a bias that you need to read his accounts with. He's also writing many decades after the fact in part as a response to earlier publications by Cortes (and the retelling by Gomara) etc, as well as critics of Spanish colonization like Las Casas: That's part of why his account is titled the "true history"... but because he is writing so far after the events happened in his old age, the fact he was still writing with a self-serving motive etc means his account should be read critically

He also ironically actually picks up and retells many things present in stuff like Gomara's adaptation that are known to be or considered to likely be errors or myths or intentional revisionism, and for that reason some have speculated if Diaz even participated in the account at all (though conversely, I know somebody who is an archeologist who considers Diaz's account to be one of the more reliable), or at the very least that he misremembered things himself and uncritically adopted them, or was still trying to play into popular sentiment and appeal to readers seeking an exciting narrative and the moments they'd want to hear about (EX: Cortes burning his boats, which never happened, tho off the top of my head I don't recall for sure if Diaz includes that bit)

Keep in mind also it's not like the Spanish accounts are all unreliable and the Indigenous accounts are all 100% accurate, Mesoamerican authors were writing with specific biases and motives too (EX: Fernando Ixtlilxochitl was writing to glorify his city of Texcoco to gain favor within the Spanish colonial system and makes it's most famous king, Nezahualcoyotl into an all important monotheistic philospher king who almost singlehandedly founded the Aztec empire and totally never sacrificed people) too

>>24428416
Is this supposed to be "Aztecs: An Interpretation"? If so I've heard of it but I haven't read it, and to be honest I can't recall much specific praise or critiques to clarify on. But given that I've heard it come up in academic contexts and not negatively, I have to imagine at worst it's probably just outdated or has some common misconceptions that even academic books sometimes have (the 4 Tezcatlipocas, the Toltec empire existing, the idea that Cortes got allies due to the Mexica of Tenochtitlan being hated for sacrifices, etc)

>>24435792
As the chart says, you should read either Carrasco's translation of Diaz or the old Maudsley ones since those include the events in Guatemala after the fall of Tenochtitlan, and should pair it with Rsstall's books
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 2:01:45 PM No.24439814
>>24436650
I've definitely improved at being concise from the years of having to fit my shit within 4chan's character limit, but ultimately I really like being in depth and worry about wording things in an unclear way, so there's still only so much I can do.
Anonymous
6/4/2025, 4:02:35 PM No.24440293
>>24438848
There primary sources are in the book of Muhammad Assalabi that I recommended to you.
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 4:20:24 PM No.24440364
>>24439808
Any works on pre-Spanish Mexico/America? I'm aware of the fact they had cities and complex societies for a long time by that point but I struggle to find anything before the Spanish arrive. Though I would be interested in any works specifically about Spanish rule in the region.
Anonymous
6/4/2025, 4:31:51 PM No.24440381
>>24438980
>no real history here
For the Arabs during the middle ages or just in general
Anonymous
6/4/2025, 4:32:58 PM No.24440383
>>24440293
Thanks anon
Anonymous
6/4/2025, 6:34:12 PM No.24440681
>>24439084
Any history writer worth his salt usually provides some historical context for what they are writing about.
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Anonymous
6/4/2025, 6:35:32 PM No.24440684
>>24440681
My bad, meant to respond to this>>24439590
Anonymous
6/5/2025, 4:08:45 AM No.24441966
Bump
Anonymous
6/5/2025, 1:58:47 PM No.24442944
So what are some good intro books that give an overall history of China?

Iโ€™m thinking of either reading the Cambridge Illustrated History of China or the Imperial China book that DK released and then find books covering Republican China and then Communist China.

Anyone have other suggestions?
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Anonymous
6/5/2025, 6:18:09 PM No.24443471
>>24442944
I know John Keay wrote a good general history of China, but I can't attest to it personally
Anonymous
6/5/2025, 6:31:29 PM No.24443495
>>24442944
Penguin has a good general intro to modern china from 1850-2000. There is a series by Belknap Press on each dynasty which I've been eyeing but haven't gotten yet.
Anonymous
6/5/2025, 9:16:32 PM No.24443768
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Finishing this, anyone have something meatier?
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 1:05:38 AM No.24444237
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>>24443768
Robert Service has some interesting cold war books.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/5056734.Robert_Service
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 1:32:47 AM No.24444284
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>>24418232 (OP)
The Thirty Years War: Europeโ€™s Tragedy by Peter H. Wilson
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 4:30:49 AM No.24444790
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Iโ€™ve heard this book is very good and plan on reading it at some point.
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 7:20:01 AM No.24445495
>>24418232 (OP)
any good books about contacts between east and west?
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 2:33:51 PM No.24446220
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>>24424173
Not exactly a history book, but a very interesting account of the author's journey into the jungle of New Guinea in search of an uncontacted tribe
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 7:01:18 PM No.24446766
I finished Gulag: A History

Now I'm re-reading The Killer Angels, historical fiction novel about the battle of Gettysburg. About 30% through it. Shit's lit
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Anonymous
6/6/2025, 7:23:10 PM No.24446821
>>24442944
Search for Modern China
When China Wakes
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 10:11:35 PM No.24447199
>>24444237
how's his modern Russia stuff?
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 4:01:56 AM No.24447862
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>>24446766
>Now I'm re-reading The Killer Angels, historical fiction novel about the battle of Gettysburg
Great book, Bruce Catton and Shelby Foote's books on the Gettysburg campaign are also excellent.
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 4:22:59 AM No.24447909
>>24418232 (OP)
Looking for good books on the Cold War intellectual and literary scene, something extensive.
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 11:47:30 AM No.24448501
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 11:53:21 AM No.24448505
>>24447862
Catton is woke
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 5:16:53 PM No.24449010
Looking for a nice book about medieval architecture, castle, cathedral, church and other smaller buildings too. Medieval europe or china, japan.
Replies: >>24451069 >>24451267
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 6:21:33 PM No.24449165
>>24423710
I read JH Clapham's books "Economic Development of Germany and France 1815-1914" and "A concise economic history of Britain from the earliest times to 1750" a couple of years ago that shed a lot of light on the agricultural practices in those countries and surprisingly complex relations between the lords and tenants. Agriculture is just a part of the books but footnotes and references abound to other material.
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 8:08:27 PM No.24449389
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best books about this nigga?
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Anonymous
6/7/2025, 10:47:30 PM No.24449861
>>24448505
Some of his books are over 70 years old, can you really consider books from that era to be woke?
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 4:57:33 AM No.24450519
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:14:11 AM No.24451068
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>>24444284
getting that on paperback for my birthday this week.

on another note, whats a good cultural history of the Germans like The Icon And The Axe is for Russian cultural history?
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:15:13 AM No.24451069
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>>24449010
you might like "Castles" by Sidney Toy
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:46:13 AM No.24451100
>>24436928
wasn't Neville Chamberlin a much better leader?
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 12:48:34 PM No.24451183
>>24451069
Thanks anon
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 1:11:24 PM No.24451213
>>24451183
no problem
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 1:44:02 PM No.24451267
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>>24449010
try castle by David Macaulay
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 8:16:24 PM No.24452062
Anyone have good books about early gunpowder warfare? not so much the historical process, but tactics and weaponry used.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 10:11:37 PM No.24452319
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>>24452062
>The Pursuit of Power: Technology, Armed Force, and Society since A.D. 1000 by William McNeill
>The Military Revolution: Military Innovation and the Rise of the West 1500-1800 by Geoffrey Parker
>The Gunpowder Age: China, Military Innovation, and the Rise of the West in World History by Tonio Andrade
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:02:25 PM No.24452416
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>>24449389
He is alive and very powerful. You wont fight any critic about him. However you can learn his playbook. Basically anything on managerialism. 'The Machiavelians, defenders of freedom' and 'The Populist delusion' are good books which describe his politics. He wrote a book himself 'On Leadership' which gets dangerously redpilled sometimes.
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Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:11:15 PM No.24452431
>>24452319
thank you! I have read the pursuit of power, I'll check out the others
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 11:13:02 PM No.24452436
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>>24452416
>>24449389

Ofc you can also read 'The managerial revolution' by our great lord Burnt ham. Blair is still in total control of everything uk
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:04:09 AM No.24452560
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>>24418232 (OP)
Is James Holland worth reading?
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:14:36 AM No.24452589
>>24451068
Still waiting on an answer
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 4:48:18 AM No.24453155
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>>24452062
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 6:18:36 AM No.24453328
>>24452319
>>The Gunpowder Age: China, Military Innovation, and the Rise of the West in World History by Tonio Andrade
I've seen some of the other books by this guy and they look really cool, like the Chinese taking Taiwan from the Dutch. Expensive as fuck though
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 6:48:20 AM No.24453366
>>24421475
Do you recommend both? I've only read some fragments.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 12:59:34 PM No.24453802
>>24453366
nta but I really loved Thucydides. He's got his head on straight and gives you as much of a straightforward narrative as you can get, he does include analysis' but it's all in form of speeches. He tells you at the start that they are all made up and I pretty caught onto it just him explaining the rationale (or at least, what he thinks is) behind the actions taken.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 1:05:11 PM No.24453810
>>24418232 (OP)
Catton or Foote?
Tuchman or Clark?
Replies: >>24455424
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 1:16:05 AM No.24455181
>>24452589
Still waiting...
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:05:46 AM No.24455398
>>24453802
I like the sound of that. I wanted to know if the dozen or so pages I've read were representative of his work. Thank you; I'll read it.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:17:32 AM No.24455424
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>>24453810
>Catton or Foote?
Both have their merits. Catton's writing style is more journalistic. Foote is more baroque. Catton generally does a more sympathetic portrayal of the Union side, Foot at times does something similar for the Confederacy. If you read anything by Catton, read his Centennial History of the Civil War series.

>Tuchman or Clark?
Clark. Tuchman writes pretty good prose, but newer books about the beginnings to WW1 (Christopher Clark, Sean McMeekin, Margaret MacMillan, Max Hastings, etc.) are more comprehensive.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 4:04:02 AM No.24455511
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>>24418232 (OP)
Reading this now that puts Whitman and his work into context with his times and setting. It was interesting time even if you exclude the civil war
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6/10/2025, 4:08:16 AM No.24455515
Dominion by Tom Holland
Dominion by Tom Holland
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Thoughts on picrelated? I'm reading it at the moment and I'm impressed.
Replies: >>24455807
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:38:07 AM No.24455657
Looking for the best books about the following eras of China:

>Chinaโ€™s Republican Era
>Chinese Civil War
>First Decades of CCP rule
>The Cultural Revolution
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:55:22 AM No.24455807
>>24455515
I finished it, it's pop history done right. Ironically made me a bit pessimistic about the West if anything, since Holland, as an atheist, seems to imply that much of what Christians -and by extension, Western liberals - believe is rooted in faith and not really historical reality. Makes me wonder how we will react when that reality check finally comes knocking.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 1:16:34 PM No.24456336
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>>24452062
I've had this on my shelf for a while, but haven't got around to reading it yet.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:18:21 PM No.24457202
>>24438372
The Eagle and the Hart: The Tragedy of Richard II and Henry IV
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 9:28:50 PM No.24457358
>>24455807
And in spite of this, the church is historical in of itself. So either he doesn't get hermeneutics or blinkers himself culturally on purpose to maintain an agenda.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 12:55:45 AM No.24457802
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Iain Gately's Tobacco

>Long before Columbus arrived in the New Word, tobacco was cultivated and enjoyed by the indigenous inhabitants of the Americas, who used it for medicinal, religious, and social purposes. But when Europeans began to colonize the American continents, it became something else entirelyโ€”a cultural touchstone of pleasure and success, and a coveted commodity that would transform the world economy forever.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:38:04 AM No.24458267
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>>24418232 (OP)
Every time I read about Churchill talking about saving Britain for the British people it always rings hollow because the state of Britain now is way worse than a Nazi puppet state could ever be.
Replies: >>24458753 >>24460420
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 9:19:22 AM No.24458578
>>24418650
As a supplement to >>24418889 the shortest history series is great for explaining broad trends in the topics it covers and putting isolated events you read about in more cultural context
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:57:30 AM No.24458753
>>24458267
ok
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 3:26:17 PM No.24459005
>>24418232 (OP)
Since its a hot button issue right now, requesting the most objective overview of the Spanish-American War...
Replies: >>24459181
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:45:41 PM No.24459181
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>>24459005
G. J. A. O'Toole's book on the USS Maine is basically about the "inciting incident" to the Spanishโ€“American War. I've never read an overview of the entire conflict.

>The Spanish War: An American Epic, 1898 by G.J.A. O'Toole

>On the night of February 15, 1898, the U.S. battleship Maine was ripped in half by an explosion in Havana harbor with the loss of 266 American lives. War with Spain followed nine weeks later. After a three-month fight on two fronts half a world apart, the era of isolation was gone forever, as the United States formed alliances and gained spheres of influence that would shape its destiny for decades to come.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/189756.The_Spanish_War
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:24:53 AM No.24460387
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>Tudor England by John Guy

>account of political and religious developments from the advent of the Tudors in the 1460s to the death of Elizabeth I in 1603

>Published by Oxford University Press
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:42:56 AM No.24460420
>>24458267
that's the essential British mentality though, chasing progress at all costs. I would know because its my background and my worldview is completely at odds with my mother.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 6:33:49 AM No.24460642
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>>24418232 (OP)
Iโ€™m generally not a history reader outside of the classics and stuff like Wedgwood and Huizinga

Got these on a whim recently. The JFK one is entertaining but I get the feeling it may be tinfoil tier
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:01:09 AM No.24462348
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>>24460642
>Personal Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant
Good choice, Grant and Sherman are both worth reading. Harvard University Press has a nice annotated edition of Grantโ€™s memoirs, but you can also read it for free on Project Gutenberg.

What is generally considered to be the best biography for Grant?

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4367
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:30:12 AM No.24462667
>>24462348
Maybe some consider it more of a pop history book but before buying those books I read Chernowโ€™s Grant. I feel it did its job well in an engaging and easy to read way. Perhaps it whitewashes Grant a little too much but I think Grant was a pretty likable guy and a good soul
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:34:48 AM No.24462672
Any Italianons recommend history books in general to understand Italy? Im moving there soon and want to get the run down of the countries history so I can understand the landscape a little better.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:42:56 AM No.24462688
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>>24462672
Iโ€™m not Italian (though Iโ€™ve studied the language and the country for some time) but I read this book and thought it was quite insightful. If nothing else, it gives you a run down on Italian history and the history of the idea of Italy.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:44:42 AM No.24462693
>>24462688
Grazie mille anon
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:14:38 PM No.24463149
>>24425805
I've heard Percy Stephensen is good but i haven't read him.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:24:20 PM No.24463419
file
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:10:21 AM No.24464399
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Across The Wide Missouri - Bernard DeVoto

>The book chronicles the competition between John Jacob Astor's American Fur Company and the Rocky Mountain Fur Company, an "opposition" group of trappers (including Jim Bridger and Kit Carson) descended from the earlier entrepreneurial activities of General William H. Ashley. Devoto specifically narrates the major expeditions and the daily experiences of the Western divisions of these companies, which scoured the northernmost regions of the Rocky Mountains for beaver.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/831175.Across_The_Wide_Missouri
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:13:03 AM No.24464401
>>24463419
Yeah, nah, I read Milovan Djilas on Stalin.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:17:23 AM No.24465019
Germans - George Bailey
Germans - George Bailey
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>>24451068
>1726260103840357.jpg
George Bailey's Germans is a bit dated but a well-written overview.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:26:42 AM No.24465031
>>24460642
The Guns of August is easily one of the best written and entertaining history books so it will forever remain a classic
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:06:45 AM No.24465076
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:04:04 AM No.24465249
Are there any short modern overviews of Roman history that I could read before Gibbon?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:12:47 AM No.24465256
>>24465249
It's impossible to have any good overview of Roman history in a single book, there is simply too much to cover and too much that changes over periods. The Routledge History of the Ancient World and The Edinburgh History of Ancient Rome are both good series. Pick up a book on whatever period interests you the most
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:37:39 AM No.24465272
>>24452560
those books are very casual
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:47:51 PM No.24466899
99201
99201
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:54:46 PM No.24466915
Good books on the intellectual history of so-called "cold war liberalism"?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:53:35 AM No.24467589
>>24466915
Why do you want an intellectual history rather than just reading Kissinger? I mean your subject is necrotically stitched together out of fascism, social-democratic anti-communism and British Men on Horses shit. Never mind the American intellectual "tradition."
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:08:32 AM No.24467628
>>24466915
Maybe not quite what you're looking for, but on my TBR list is
>The Tragedy of American Diplomacy - William Appleman Williams
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:09:16 AM No.24467631
>>24455511
this looks great
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:19:06 PM No.24468222
>>24467628
I actually just got that

>>24467589
I don't think that would work
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:14:48 PM No.24469420
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91maThdXIxL._SL1500_
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Good out of print book about the Pennsylvania Mutiny of 1783.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:12:20 AM No.24469997
159072
159072
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>>24465249
Michael Grant
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:33:36 PM No.24471334
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:05:27 AM No.24472562
Bump
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:53:02 AM No.24472940
>>24418889
Passages from Antiquity to Feudalism and Lineages of the Absolutist State, by Perry Anderson. Only takes you up to the late 18th century though.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:54:02 AM No.24472943
>>24418650
>>24472940
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:13:11 AM No.24472985
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>>24460642
>1776
Good book, it was my gateway drug for authors/books about The American Revolution (John Ferling, David Hackett Fischer and Gordon Wood).
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:04:49 AM No.24473131
>>24418232 (OP)
Is Tim Witmarsh's "Battling The Gods" a good resource for ancient unbelief?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:36:48 PM No.24474654
>>24418232 (OP)
bump
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:10:48 AM No.24475362
History Overview Book List
History Overview Book List
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How's this list?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:05:59 AM No.24475521
>>24475362
Always hate how any history lists always basically skip over all of Antiquity and the Middle Ages to just get to the modern period immediately.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:26:51 AM No.24475539
>>24475362
Non-academic pop shite.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:23:07 AM No.24475640
Brief History of Now
Brief History of Now
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>>24418650
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:31:01 AM No.24475651
>>24475362
>no history about greeks and ottoman dynasty
>No history about england before colonization era ,Jerusalem and the Crusades
>no history about every empire's struggle to conquer north america.
>No history book on chinese and mongol empire
aye ,atleast someone didn't forgot to add thirty years war.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:02:14 PM No.24475914
>>24475362
>Buddy Levy Conquistadores
>not Fernando Cervantes Conquistadores
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:46:04 PM No.24475995
>>24475914
Speaking of which does anyone have that infographic about Aztec/Mayan history?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:51:10 PM No.24476002
>>24475914
Also what are some good histories that blend cultural history with military history in regards to Incas/Mayans/Aztecs?