heidegger: being and time

>>24453703 (OP)
Solzhenitsyn
Ayn Rand
lubavich judaism literature

>>24453703 (OP)
The Diary Of The Most Based Man Alive - Vladimir Putin (pbuh)

Stupid fucking /lit/cattle can't even use Google - needs other losers online to feed it worthless (You)s on every topic.
https://www.rbth.com/arts/334143-putins-favorite-books
Entries 3, 4 and 5 are actually good. The rest is just readooor fodder.

>>24453734
He probably thinks Solzhenitsyn is a traitor.

>>24454271
>he actually thinks those lists they put out are accurate and not just optics
lol
LMFAO even

>>24454271
Boring list lacking any character. He either doesn't read or is schizo enough to think people might hack his brain if he reveals what he likes.

>>24453703 (OP)
There was a Starikov's book behind him during one of his interviews.

>>24454286
he added him into school curriculum

>>24454286
Why? Putin is an anti-communist.

>>24453703 (OP)
He is a pretty low-IQ, 3rd-rate-KGB guy without classical education. It is said that he cited "The New Chronology" in one of his speeches.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_chronology_(Fomenko)
So, basically he reads some Russian conspiratorial/revisionist books + some suitable (for him) political works, like Ilyin's ones.

>>24453703 (OP)
One Piece.

>>24453703 (OP)

>>24454505
This kills the zigger Russoid
https://youtu.be/p3NuFGQsKGY?si=-7q74u-PK-pl905C

my diary desu
last entry: "I'm feeling suicidal. I'm going to shoot myself in the back of the head and then throw myself out of a 10 story window, in that order."

>>24454510
https://youtu.be/tkzY_VwNIek?si=jcl66bVpeB_hNg5F

Hyperion and Stoner

>>24454505
HOLY BASED
WTF I LOVE DUGAN NOW?!?

>>24453703 (OP)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Ilyin
Heиpoничнo.

Putin approved a list for high school students in 2012 with 100 authors to read.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_книг_для_шкoльникoв

>>24454858
Дyмaeшь y Пыни мoзгoв хвaтит Ильинa пoнять?

>>24454879
Пыня yвидeл пpичитaния Ильинa пpo "фaшизм пepвыe пpидyмaли гyззикиe". Hy кaк yвидeл. B пaпoчкe пpинecли.

>>24454894
Кaкoй нaхyй Ильин, ypoвeнь пыни - Cтapикoв и Чyдинoв.
Или мoжeт кaкиe нибyдь coвeтcкиe poмaны пpo aгeнтoв HКBД в пapижe лeдopyбящих бaндepoвцeв

>>24454899
Oднaкo ж цитиpyeт, кoгдa пoлoвцы c пeчeнeгaми нaдoeдaют, дa в мoeй Mocквe пocтepы нa ocтaнoвкaх c ним вeшaeт.

>>24454911
Из личных бeceд c кpeмлeвcкими пoлитpyкoвoдитeлями, нe бoлee.
Этo тe жe чтo eмy cтpeлoчки нa кapтaх pиcoвaли в кpacкaх paccкaзывaя пpo Coвeтcкoe кoнтpнacтyплeниe, кoтopoe вдoхнoвилo eгo нa SMO, пpoчyвcтвoвaть кpecлo Cтaлинa.

>>24453703 (OP)
I guarantee you he plays chess. He's older, but he paracticed SAMBO, into gray hairs. He speaks several leanguages, and very well I might add. Books? I see Sun Tzu art of war, on his bookshelf. I actually have liked most russians I ever met. honestly feel like I would enjoy having a couple beers with the guy. Play a chess game. talk some. I think he's made out to be th boogeyman. Reember, is th devil didn;t exist? We would promptly invent one.

>>24454457
>He is a pretty low-IQ, 3rd-rate-KGB guy
what a cope. this guy didn;t get to where he was and now is? By being low IQ. Low IQ dont; generally speak several languages, and very well. Guys got a forehead.

>>24454872
>https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_книг_для_шкoльникoв
it's blank mate.

>>24453703 (OP)
Velimir Khlebnikov

>>24454932
I clicked it and copy pasted and got this lol.
>https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_%D0%BA%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B3_%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F_%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2

>>24454457
At the end of the day, he's one of the richest people on earth, and you're the genetic failures posting on different image boards. Who won?

>>24453703 (OP)
"Hohol Holocaust" by Vladimir Putin

>>24455147
>on the hohols and their lies
>100 years together
>moya borba
>the protocols of the elites of hohol

>>24455211
>>on the hohols and their lies
wouldn't read
>>100 years together
wouldn't read
>>moya borba
would read
>>the protocols of the elites of hohol
would read

>>24454931
>Guys got a forehead
the same guy who went to war with Ukraine and only survives because trump relentlessly sucks his cock

>>24453703 (OP)
Dugin

>>24453703 (OP)
Asian American female literature

>>24453703 (OP)
He has repeatedly quoted a Soviet pulp fiction book about a Jewish cat thief

>>24455349
>the same guy who went to war with Ukraine
and is winning
>only survives because trump relentlessly
both Trump and Biden equally had zero leverage over him or Russia, Putin and Russia survived just as easily with Biden in office

>>24453703 (OP)
I have it on good authority he is a big isekai fan

>>24453703 (OP)
Whatever books make you start dumb wars that weaken your country and strengthen your adversaries.

>>24455397
Well done, you're "winning" by advancing at a snail's pace for 3 years in what was supposed to be a quick rambo-style "special military operation". You haven't even conquered the Donbas territories after 3 years, even the capitals of Kherson and Zaporizhia are not under your control, even though you're facing an economically inferior country with a small population size.

>>24454931
>this guy didn;t get to where he was and now is?
Mate, just learn something about Russian political history in the late 90s. They (Russian elites, Berezovsky in particular) just wanted some reliable and controlled guy to secure their position and money after Yeltsin's departure. They miscalculated with Putin because Putin had his own big team hungry to Russian money. As a political figure, Putin has been able to save his position mainly with help of petrodollars, high oil prices, some reforms (which were carried out by Kasyanov, a liberal prime-minister during the first putin's term) and a pretty decent job of his PR machine. He is really a stupid but lucky random guy.

>>24454931
>generally speak several languages
Some shitty abilitiy in German, that's all what you got free by living a couple of years in East Germany, yeah.

>>24455137
>he's one of the richest people on earth
Oh, that's a nice trait for a public servant. As I remember, African low-IQ dictators do the same thing.

>>24455838
It's not about conquering territory retard, but about killing off NATO's capabilities to ever built up Ukraine into a threat for Russia by killing off their manpower and striking capabilities, which is working extremely well with the meatrinder Putin created for Zelensky to throw Ukrainians into. So well that he is under pressure to mobilize 18 year olds to stuff the holes in his defense lines, all while Russia is conquering more and more land every day with a rapidly growing economy. But yeah, "Russia is losing" kek.

>>24455881
Fluent in German, Russian and English

>>24455877
Faggot retard reciting Nawalny of all people in this thread. Come again nigga.

>>24455926
You have no understanding what IQ and therefore intelligence means. Asking again: if one person has riches beyond imagination and the unbreakable support of his people, and the other one is a 4chan poster, who won?

>>24453703 (OP)
The Art of The Deal.

He reads Russian history every night for hours as per his biography
>>24455949
he isnt fluent in German. His time in German was him being an adulterer and tv-watching alcoholic

>>24456013
Neither in English. There are many photos and videos, where he communicate with English-speaking leaders with translators. Someone courteously said that he is able to understand English, but every Jeet is able to do so.

>>24454457
I don't think Putin's a genius or great man but he's obviously high iq. It's like when Christopher Hitchens said that Bush was smarter than everyone in the audience laughing at jokes about Bush being dumb. Of course your typical dictator or president is going to be above average iq, it's nothing amazing or unexpected. They're at the head of a country, and the low iq will not even be interested in the necessary prerequisites to be a political puppet, let alone an actual leader.

>>24455949
Ivan, for trillions of free petrodollars, which the West has been giving you all these years, you are a complete failure. Let's not forget that Russia stole the most of Ukrainian lands during the foul Barbarossa style attack in the beginning of the war. And don't forget that we see the meatgrind and humiliation of your army too. Yeah, there are 100+ millions of stupid Russian cattle, so Putin has a pretty big pool to choose from.

>>24456046
>and the low iq will not even be interested in the necessary prerequisites to be a political puppet, let alone an actual leader.
Neither would anyone with a high IQ.

Politics is a domain of midwits who've built up the ability to navigate it well.
In case of Putin, he was set by the weakened by Yeltsin parliament who couldn't oppose him, and then ever growing FSB and oligarch influence who didn't oppose him since he was allowing them to rob the country.

>>24456046
History is full of stupid leaders of great powers. A state is a complex system, which has its resources and people who do all work. You could be an average guy, but if you have a slightly competent team which desires to gain power, you could do it, especially if you have a resource base (like natural resources and Soviet legacy) and favourable times (like economic growth due to high oil prices and already completed communism-capitalism transformation).

Harry Potter and Star Wars. Those are the two key works in explaining the inner workings of the average libtard

>>24456046
It's pretty easy to seize power during the -poor to rich" stage of society (like in Russia in the 2000s, or in Germany after the world economic crysis in the beginning of the 1930s). It's difficult to seize power during the rich stage of society (like in the US today).

>>24456066
>Politics is a domain of midwits who've built up the ability to navigate it well.
It really depends. In modern democracies? For the most part, yes. But it's still sometimes the case that more intelligent people stand out.

>>24456072
>History is full of stupid leaders of great powers.
Relative to the rest of history, not the common person.

>>24456092
>It's pretty easy to seize power during the -poor to rich" stage of society
I think you people are severely underrating the difficulty of taking over a democracy and ruling a dictatorship.

>>24456059
>Let's not forget that Russia stole the most of Ukrainian lands during the foul Barbarossa style attack
Holy fuck you absolute retard hahahhaha

>>24454271
Calling it now before I open it, there's going to be a dostoyevsky book in there.

>>24456135
fuck.

>>24456072
Then why are you sucking dick for money to pay your bills and the supposed retards don't?

>>24456131
He's absolutely right. The convention for waging war in a civilised and Christian manner in Europe has always been to issue an ultimatum to the country you're going to invade, and if that isn't met by some deadline you officially declare war with stated war aims, avoid attacking civilians, and then go fight. Russia didn't declare war, didn't issue and ultimatum, just launched a surprise attack while saying that they were only building up their military as an exercise.

>>24456013
I'm German and he is fluent. See his Bundestag speech in the early 2000's.

>>24456035
> where he communicate with English-speaking leaders
You can't even speak it properly yourself retard, who are you lecturing about the English language?

>>24456139
The convention for waging war in a civilised and Christian manner in Europe has always been to issue an ultimatum to the country you're going to invade

According to multiple sources including the ex-Israeli premier, everyone including Zelensky knew about the attack multiple weeks before. No civilians were evacuated or even warned, while Zelensky hid his ass in his bunker. Only after reassurance from Putin to the Israeli premier that he wouldn't harm the Jew he had the balls to leave his bunker and record cool and tough videos for twitter. Read it up, nigger.

Besides that what you said is wrong in every way, nobody gives a fuck.

>>24456141
>speech
>fluent
Kek. Let me speak from my heart, retard.

Real talk I can't think of a more bungled invasion in modern history than this.

>>24456178
I said I'm German and never claimed to be fluent in English, you dyslexic mongoloid.

>>24456191
Speeches are not an indicator of fluency. If he lived in East Germany he could at least be taught pronunciation.

>>24456193
When you're at least bilingual you will always have an accent in both languages. I and all of my friends speak multiple languages and I've been living in Germany for almost 30 years. I still have a noticable accent when talking to Germans since I alternate between at least 2 languages daily and multiple languages a week due to work. You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, and I mean that in a friendly way.

>The convention for waging war in a civilised and Christian manner in Europe has always been to issue an ultimatum to the country you're going to invade, and if that isn't met by some deadline you officially declare war with stated war aims, avoid attacking civilians, and then go fight

That's the gayest shit I've read in a long time. Are you 16?

>>24453703 (OP)
pol bait. reported

>>24456207
>I and all of my friends speak multiple languages
That's nice to know, but you didn't get the point. There were an American anon in /lang/int/, who didn't know Russian or Ukrainian (according to him), but was able to read complicated poems in them pretty good (according to Ukrainian and Russian anons, who listened to his vocaroo recordings), because he knew how to pronounce syllables and read cyrrilic. That's all. He wasn't fluent, he didn't understand what he read at all.

>>24453703 (OP)
Russians are retarded orcs. They can't read anything.

>>24456276
He used to converse regularly with Angela Merkel and Schröder in German, both wrote/talked about it. At the Valdai forum he answered multiple questions from a swiss journalist in German.

>>24453734
>ayn rand
He would have her drawn and quartered if he could

>>24456335
>both wrote/talked about it.
Polite shit.
>he answered multiple questions from a swiss journalist in German.
Prearranged shit.

I don't know his language level during his service in East Germany, but I don't think that he maintained it all these years.

>>24456149
No they didn't lol. Everyone suspected but Putin did a similar military exercise before and everyone thought he'd invade but he didn't. It was a slimy move even all the Russia shills were saying he wouldn't invade. Then you guys changed your tune to saying it was "necessary" and "inevitable" later.

>>24456325
True. The Russian aristocracy that created Russian culture were actually Germanic. Native Russians were always seen as serfs and peasants. Even now they are significantly poorer and act like savages compared to the West. They also live in disgusting commie blocks. Animals.

>>24456448
>Germans
Wrong. It was mostly Tatars.
https://t.me/tolk_tolk/24448

Russian tsars often did not even require Tatar murzas to convert to Orthodoxy. This excerpt from Shvatchenko's works is striking in how Muslim the Ryazan region still was at the beginning of the 19th century:

*"The Moscow government was very tolerant toward Tatars converting to Orthodoxy. For example, the Bordakov Tatars. In 1595, there were no signs that they were Orthodox. Yet they were all registered. And so until 1678, they remained in their faith, with no Orthodox among them. This was in Ryazan district. When we mapped this data onto the general land survey and calculated the changes within the Ryazan province and the adjacent lands of the 16th-century Ryazan estates, it turned out that by 1800, there were 46 mosques in Ryazan and 24,000 Tatars and murzas settled in cities. They did not live in villages."*

There was a period in the 17th century when lands were granted only to foreign elites:
"In the 17th century, this policy became more pronounced. At one point in Nizhny Novgorod district, it was forbidden to grant lands to Russian nobles—only foreigners were settled there. And then (this is also interesting) as part of land colonization, they (the foreigners) moved further and further down (along the Volga)."

Shvatchenko’s remark about who the "Litvins" were—another group that arrived en masse in Russian lands—is also interesting:
"Of course, if it was determined whether someone was a Litvin, a Belarusian, or a Ukrainian, it was simple: Belarusians and Ukrainians were Orthodox. And if a Catholic came from this region, he was either a Pole or a Litvin."
(Though a Belarusian or Ukrainian could also be Catholic, in which case they would be classified as Litvins.)

And more on the terminology regarding foreigners who became Russian nobles:
"As T.A. Oparina notes, 'The ethnic background of immigrants was extremely diverse—one could say that Russia included ethnic groups from nearly all states of Europe and Asia Minor.' At the same time, immigrants from Western Europe were grouped under the ethnically indistinct term 'German.' The term 'Cherkashenin' referred to a Cossack from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. 'Grechenin' was an Orthodox Christian from the Ottoman Empire (including Greeks, Arab Christians, and sometimes South Slavs). The word 'Serbyanin' referred to Slavs who migrated from the Ottoman Empire. The term 'Voloshenin' denoted migrants from the Danubian Principalities and Transylvania. The word 'Kyzylbashinin' referred to those who came from Persia (Qizilbash, Persida).'"
(Yes, there were even several Persians who became "Russian nobles.")

All in all, it’s no surprise that Russia had such a vast sociocultural divide between the highest nobles and the commoners. The overwhelming majority of the upper nobility remembered their national roots, and even centuries later, they boasted of their foreign ancestors, emphasizing that they had nothing in common with the local plebs. Literally, in Russia, foreigners (including those in self-perception) ruled over serfs.

Not long ago, I wrote about Prince and playwright Sukhovo-Kobylin, and in his case, we see the same historical memory of ancestors:
*"I read a very good book from the 'Lives of Remarkable People' series about Sukhovo-Kobylin. We know him as a brilliant playwright, but he was also an influential prince from an ancient lineage with ancestors among the 'Romanovs'—specifically, that very Kobyła whom the Sukhovo-Kobylin family considered 'a Teutonic knight who came to serve in Rus' in the 14th century.' Like all the highest aristocracy, this family also often fabricated foreign roots to further distinguish themselves from the Russian lower classes. On the other hand, all the good in his life came from the Germans. 'If not for the Germans,' the prince said, 'Russia would have fallen apart and descended into barbarism. The Prussian system of governance held it together like a hoop.'"*

A telling example of the replacement of native elites with Tatars occurred in the Novgorod region. During Ivan the Terrible’s massacre of Novgorod and later the Livonian War, a significant portion of Russian landowners was wiped out. Their lands were then granted to Tatars. But besides Tatars, there were also some rather exotic new Novgorod landowners:

*"For instance, the 1605/06 census of newly baptized landowners in the Vodskaya, Derevskaya, Shelonskaya, and Bezhetskaya districts of Novgorod contains ethnographic data on 36 individuals. A notable number were Nogais (6 people) and Kazan Tatars (15), but besides them, Crimean and Astrakhan Yurt Tatars were also recorded. There were also rather exotic arrivals from the Khanate of Bukhara (3 people), 2 ‘Araps’ (possibly Africans or Arabs), one from the ‘Toshken land’ (likely Central Asian), and even one representative each from Turkey and Iran ended up in the Novgorod region."*

This illustrates how, in the wake of Ivan the Terrible’s purges, the Novgorodian elite was not just replaced by Tatars but also by a diverse array of foreign figures—some from as far as Bukhara, the Ottoman Empire, and Persia. This further reinforced the pattern of foreign or non-Russian elites governing over the local population.

>>24456443
Everyone knew you oblivious tard, from the CIA who was briefing Zelensky and the Ukrainian secret service to the MI6 who was preparing defensive action. How about you actually do some research instead of shitting out your garbage opinion?

>>24456383
Cope. Merkel hates Putin.

>>24456448
Holy shit bruh, are you from Poland and/or the baltics?

>>24456458
>>24456461
seek help

>>24456497
what help doe, I am Russian and it's visible that our elites are clearly not 100% Slavic but aren't 100% Tatar either.

"Grattez le Russe et vous trouverez le Tartare".

>>24456497
I recommend Russian wikipedia article. Ask ChatGPT to translate it.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B7%D0%B0

>>24456478
Lmfao, you are an autocratic petrostate where everyone is poor and notoriously miserable, after 3 years you haven't managed to obtain your objectives in Ukraine. Instead you cope about the war being about draining NATO weaponry LMFAO. Admitting you use the lives of your men for a stupid goal like that. "Your boy was artilleried to death, madam, but at least NATO won't have those bullets anymore!"

>>24455959
>who won?
Who won't get into history textbooks as another raging manlet.

>>24455760
what's the story?

>>24453703 (OP)
Apparently the Brother's Karamazov is his favorite book, which makes a lot of sense. Whether this is just a propaganda favorite or he genuinely enjoys it I am not sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was some truth to it.

>>24455949
>Faggot retard reciting Nawalny of all people in this thread.
So you definitely can name any political public debate, which was won by this independent political genius, can't you? How did he win elections in 2000? Maybe some massive canvassing and election campaign throughout the country?

>>24456497
It's okay Vlad, you can still be proud of the fact that you have the second most powerful military (in Ukraine).

>>24455397
>and is winning
You're winning territory with massive losses in men and equipment. The Oryx archive was a project where they would count all visually confirmed losses of vehicles and military equipment in the war. It showed something like a 4-to-1 discrepancy in favour of Ukraine, if I remember correctly. It might have changed now, idk, I think Oryx stopped counting because the workload was too hard to keep up with. But this was the most accurate objective source because they counted only visually confirmed losses, and it showed the Russians getting smashed.

>>24456343
>He would have her drawn and quartered if he could

>>24457658
The Party would never have approved SMO, so he succeeded in dismantling rationale of Soviet pragmatism.
Shit, it collapsed because USSR (250 mil people lived in it) had lost 17k in Afghanistan over 10 year span.

>>24457512
>You're winning territory with massive losses in men and equipment. The Oryx archive
Oryx is massively inflated and has been documented to double-count as well as count AFU losses as RuAF, and even if Russia’s losses were higher that’s not an issue since Russia’s military industries can pump out endless armored vehicles at a low cost compared to the slow and expensive production of the same in the west and the Ukraine’s non-existent production.

>and it showed the Russians getting smashed.
The only ones getting smashed is the Ukraine. In 2024 and the first part of 2025 the Russians massively pushed the entire front west and north of Avdiivka, captured Kurakhove, Vuhledar, Toretsk and Chasiv Yar, kicked the Ukrainians out of Kursk, rolled up the AFU defenses in south-east Donbass and are starting to encircle and isolate the supply to both Pokrovsk and Kostantynivka right now while at the same time rolling up the AFU defenses on the outskirts of Sumy and approaching Liman from the north.

>>24454286
Nah, and Solzhenitsyn would be all board with this Russian neo-imperial stuff.

>>24454925
>I would enjoy having a couple beers with the guy.
He doesn't drink. He's a very dull, conservative man in reality.

>>24453703 (OP)
Likely briefings written by his innumerable slavebois.

>>24457512
>oryx
complete and utter bullshit. you need to have brain damage to take their "data" serious.

>>24458070
good depiction of what is really happening on the ground. as soon as the russians fixed their rusty military machine, the ukrainian army is being decimated on all fronts and ends, even though it is still being financed and heavily armed by the US and almost all European countries.

>>24458070
>In 2024 and the first part of 2025 the Russians massively
1,5 year of the offensive and they still aren't able to reach the borders of the region. That's just meat waves with immense losses and funny videos everyday.

>>24458070
>>24458241
Oryx was the most accurate military history source of any conflict in history, because it counted only visually confirmed losses. If they made a mistake or double counted losses you could report that to them. Obviously they would've made mistakes but it wouldn't be enough to show the massive discrepancies in losses that Oryx showed. I admit the tide of the war may have changed now as Oryx stopped counting. But as there's no other source doing this, we can't know what the truth is. Personally i think the Kursk invasion was a strategic disaster for Ukraine and its likely they lost a lot of men there. The argument that you're gaining ground doesn't work because you've been gaining ground at a snail's pace for 3 years and you still haven't managed to capture the territories you've "annexed'.

Nonfiction(cringe)

>>24458070
>pushed the entire front west and north of Avdiivka, captured Kurakhove, Vuhledar, Toretsk and Chasiv Yar, kicked the Ukrainians out of Kursk, rolled up the AFU defenses in south-east Donbass and are starting to encircle and isolate the supply to both Pokrovsk and Kostantynivka
.. and Call of Duty was showing me an invasion of Fascington and New York

>>24453703 (OP)

Mongoloriepriepriep by Chingov Chongov Mongov

>>24458416
>That's just meat waves with immense losses
This is fantasy, Ukraine is covered with massive graveyards in every city now that are visible from space, Ukraine is desperately short of troops due to huge losses and men running away and has to rely on forced mobilization of conscripts while Russia has a large abundance of troops and doesnt have to rely on forced conscription but they sign highly paid voluntary contracts.

In modern wars artillery causes the most kills, Russia has more artillery tubes and exponentially more artillery shells than Ukraine does while also overtaking Ukraine in drone production.

>>24458418
>But as there's no other source doing this,
Incorrect, LostArmor is also doing it but doesn’t have the poor standards of Oryx

>the argument that you're gaining ground doesn't work because you've been gaining ground at a snail's pace for 3 years and you still haven't managed to capture the territories you've "annexed'.
1) This is an attrition war and Ukraine lines will collapse from lack of men eventually.

2) It’s objectively untrue that this has been a snails pace, Russia has been advancing way faster than in 2022 or 2024, they’ve been capturing hundreds of kilometers and sometimes multiple settlements in the same day. Ukrainian troops were been caught in multiple firebags around Romanovka and Kurakhove because they couldn’t escape the quickly advancing Russian troops in time.

3) The fact that Russian is advancing and taking significant territory in the past 1.5 years despite that not being their main goal due to it being an attrition war is testament to how close Ukraine is to the brink of oblivion.

4) The territory that has been fought over in the Donbass is the most fortified area in all of Ukraine with many bunkers, hills, ravines, concrete emplacements, trenches connecting industrial centers. Russia has been chewing through this one town after another and are almost to the last lines of defense. When Donbass falls, everything to the west and north of Donbass will fall faster because its not fortified anywhere near like what Donbass is but its open vistas where Russian has strike superiority.

>>24458960
Nta but l>>24458960
et's say Russia wins. What is the next step of their master plan?

>>24454414
>Putin is an anti-communist.
Yeah, a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union clearly is an anti-communist.
Retard.

>>24459111
i dont care if its bait I want to call you a worthless bug for being this retarded

>>24458960
Lol you admitted your imperialist aims go beyond donbas in point 4, incredible. I guess the world needs evil so that the good would be tested, and that's why God created Russia.

>>24455949
>but about killing off NATO's capabilities to ever built up Ukraine into a threat for Russia by killing off their manpower and striking capabilities

Meanwhile he made Finland and Sweden join NATO with his retarded idea. And even got Switzerland against him. Russia will be a pariah state and her people will become poorer. If he ends up taking Ukraine, he makes it easy for foreign powers to fund insurgencies against him. Plus he will have destroyed much of the value of the country that he has captured; his country would be better off trading with Ukraine and building wealth rather than destroying it.

>>24459344
Also think about what he's saying. He's admitting the Russian government uses Russian soldiers as a way of draining NATO's shells, bullets, and manpower. Over 200k Russians have died for this purpose, apparently. The Russian mind sees nothing wrong with this, because they are psychologically slaves. That's why they're ruled by strongmen autocrats and oligarchs. Imagine the US waging a brutal war with many of our boys dead just "for the purpose of draining the enemy's bullets". You'd have a revolution in the streets.

>how to kill off your rural population of monkes
>Idiots guide to building a caliphate of even worse monkes in your capital
>How to build a secret tunnel system to hide in if the monkes monke out
>How to sell a fake Christian sect and larp as Christian hero to Dave Ramsey watchers
>How to brainwash youth of captured territory into being future meatwave fodder to take more land to get more future youth meatwave fodder
>How to get the old widows of your country to fuck off

>>24459344
>Russia will be a pariah state and her people will become poorer.
The Ruble is the best-performing major currency in the world this year
>If he ends up taking Ukraine, he makes it easy for foreign powers to fund insurgencies against him.
No, it will be like Germany post-WW2 where are the people who would have resisted wont because they are mostly all either dead, wounded or in prison camp.
>Plus he will have destroyed much of the value of the country that he has captured
Ukraine’s value is the resources, the soil and coastline, Ukraine already let the infrastructure go to shit because of corruption. Mairupol is already rebuilt.

>>24459300
>Lol you admitted your imperialist aims go beyond donbas in point 4
The entire eastern and southern regions of Ukraine are historically, culturally and linguistically Russian. They were added by the Soviet Union to Ukraine in order to make the Ukrainian SSR economically viable. Russia never voted on or consented to these regions full of Russians being given away, if Ukraine isn’t going to respect the rights of people the there and is going to try to erase their language then Russia has no reason to respect Ukraine’s soviet-imposed borders.

>>24459484
>The Ruble is the best-performing major currency in the world this year
Because interest rates are 20%, lmfao

> No, it will be like Germany post-WW2 where are the people who would have resisted wont because they are mostly all either dead, wounded or in prison camp.
Post-WW2? What would they be resisting against? If you mean during the war, that's a good analogy for a territorial power utterly failing, so thank you.

> Ukraine’s value is the resources, the soil and coastline
They would be able to use these via trade if they weren't intent on being the world's assholes. Imagine if they had spent all they have on this war improving their own infrastructure instead.

>>24459508
>What would they be resisting against?
There was no significant guerrilla movement in Allied-occupied Germany for the aforementioned reasons and there wont be one in Russian-occupied Ukraine for the same reasons.
>Imagine if they had spent all they have on this war improving their own infrastructure instead.
Moscow and St Pete already have better infrastructure than most big western capitals including Paris, London and Washington DC, and outside of these cities its now central-European-tier. Unlike Ukraine, Russia is still capable of building big infrastructure projects on time (Crimean bridge, rebuilding Mairupol, connecting Crimea to Rostov by adding a new land corridor along the Azov coast)

The Misadventures of Huckleberry Finn

>>24459536
> There was no significant guerrilla movement in Allied-occupied Germany
Because what was happening was so obviously better than what they were doing before.
> Moscow and St Pete already have better infrastructure than most big western capitals including Paris, London and Washington DC, and outside of these cities its now central-European-tier. Unlike Ukraine, Russia is still capable of building big infrastructure projects on time (Crimean bridge, rebuilding Mairupol, connecting Crimea to Rostov by adding a new land corridor along the Azov coast)
I don't even care if this is true or not; it does absolutely nothing to diminish my point that the labor and money spent on this fiasco would have been better spent elsewhere.

>>24459100
>What is the next step of their master plan?
Just by completing the subjugation of Ukraine and the absorption of the Russian speaking areas (southern coast and the land to east of the Dnieper), Russia will have achieved its major war goals (i.e. denazification, demilitarization, neutrality, ensuring rights of Russians)

Some post-war objectives they would like to accomplish ideally would be negotiating a new security pact with Nato/EU that includes limits on stuff like the placing of missiles defense, strategic weapons, forward deployed armies etc in order to create more security and allow them to draw down their military to focus on economic development, but at the end of the day they dont need this and would still be fine without it.

Likewise, the Russian economy and energy exports doesn’t depend on Europe. It would be nice to re-open pipeline deals with Europe but their economy and federal budget doesn’t depend on this either way.

Eventually they may offer a Belarussian-type deal to a future pro-Russian Ukrainian government and integrate Western Ukraine into the Union State of Russia and Belarus in the same way as Belarus.

>>24459550
>Because what was happening was so obviously better than what they were doing before
And the same will be true here. In the future Russian-occupied Ukraine, Ukrainian males wont be afraid to walk the streets for fear of being abducted by mobile conscription vans like they are currently afraid of that right now in every city in Ukraine. Also, the government will actually be capable of delivering major infrastructure in that case.

>my point that the labor and money spent on this fiasco would have been better spent elsewhere.
Option #1 let a land with millions of Russian-speakers be turned into an anti-Russia with nukes stationed there pointed at Russia and whose government is actively erasing, suppressing and terrorizing Russian speakers

Option #2 gain new territory larger than Romania, gain millions of new citizens of the same ethnicity and language while also getting trillions of dollars of coal, gas, iron, lithium etc and almost half of the Black Sea coastline and preventing enemy missiles from being stationed there

>>24459570
Lol, nobody believes your blatant propaganda

>>24459570
>Ukrainian males wont be afraid to walk the streets for fear of being abducted
Yeah, they'll be abducted by Chechen military police.
https://t.me/bazabazon/37954

>>24459551
>Eventually they may offer a Belarussian-type deal to a future pro-Russian Ukrainian government and integrate Western Ukraine into the Union State of Russia and Belarus in the same way as Belarus.
A deal where you get 150k Pakis for Polish border shenanigans and your salary gets a bump to a whopping 400$ a month. Art of the Russian deal.
>i.e. denazification, demilitarization, neutrality, ensuring rights of Russians
None of these have been achieved. Russia gained two millions lost more than a million men.

>>24459598
>Yeah, they'll be abducted by Chechen military police.
That’s one video of one incident and that wasnt even about mobilization. Meanwhile, there have been thousands of videos of forced conscription abductions from every city in Ukraine, videos of Ukrainians fighting off the conscriptors in groups, running away, there have even attacks on conscriptors and bombing of their vans, there have even been at least 2 separate suicide bombings against the conscriptors carried out by Ukrainian mothers whose sons were forcibly mobilized and then killed. Even JD Vance called out Zelensky to his face about having to forcibly conscript all his troops who otherwise have no desire to fight.

>Russia gained two millions lost more than a million men.
Meanwhile in reality, Russian advances are picking up speed and and every single source attests to chronic Ukrainian manpower shortages and being heavily outnumbered by the Russians, regardless of whether that source is Ukrainian TG channels, Ukrainian newspapers, western newspapers interviewing Ukrainians, Russian newspapers, Russian official announcements etc.

>>24453703 (OP)
He doesn't read Russian literature otherwise he would realise how fucking retarded he is

>>24459637
Mobilization is because of SMO started by Russia. A necessity to avoid living in a country where abductions by Chechens are a cultural thing and are normal.

>>24459536
Lmfao, I hope you're Russian because if you're not this is orientalism on a level ive never seen before.The median Russian income is on the same level as Argentina. The GDP is similar to Spain, despite much more resources and population. You are a corrupt autocratic petrostate ran by oligarchs. You are bringing utter misery to Europe by launching aggressive and inhumane wars. Your national consciousness is built upon this slavic inferiority complex that causes you to lash out, typified by intellectuals such as Dugin, Dostoyevsky and Fomenko. The way you treat your own soldiers is barbaric -- pic related. But like a communist propagandist you want to ignore reality and talk about how you built a fucking bridge, lol.

>>24453766
heh

>>24457676
>Soviet pragmatism
kek what? SU largely collapsed due to them fucking up the economy with overspending on their military. They were not pragmatic at all.

>>24459731
>The median Russian income is on the same level as Argentina. The GDP is similar to Spain, despite much more resources and population.
Flat GDP is not a reliable measure, the US GDP is inflated by virtue including many financial services that are basically just money changing and middlemen taking a cut that dont correspond to any real world goods being produced.

GDP per purchasing power parity (GDP per PPP) is a much more reliable indicator, under this rubric Russia is 4th in GDP by PPP rankings, behind above both Japan and Germany.

The home ownership rate in Spain is about 76% by the way, while in Russia its 92.6% (while in “muh GDP” USA its 61%)

>You are a corrupt autocratic petrostate ran by oligarchs.
Ukraine is objectively more corrupt and more autocratic. Russia doesnt ban opposition parties unlike Ukraine. Only about 30% of the Russian federal budget comes from energy now by the way, many petrostate counties are higher, Saudi Arabia’s is twice that.

>>24459976
Why should I care about what pencil-necks think about economics? It offers neither provable theorems, testable sciences, nor convincing argument. Instead, all I have seen is people should submit to number good, when numbers are to serve people.

>>24460120
>Why should I care about what pencil-necks think about economics?
I didnt say you should, I was only replying to the other person who brought up GDP first themselves so I could point out that GDP by itself doesn't actually indicate much about a countries economy and its productive ability

>>24460134
Oh, I just want to hear a defense of academic circle jerking for its own sake.

>>24454931
this is russia, you don't need to be a genius to take power. also, hitler

>>24455211
>>24455225
should be 1000 years together
>>24454457
honestly the balls on both Fomenko for publishing that and Putin for citing it (though I wonder in what way did he cite it. surely not to advocate for its ideas, no?)

>>24460146
>>24460120
>>24459731

>Muuuh SCIENCE!!!
>Muuuh combat videos of tortured Russian POWs!!!
>This will surely provoke the Russian monkeys discussing with me!

hahaha fucking neck yourself faggot, Ukraine has lost the war by bleeding out and there is nothing you can do about it but cope. Losses are 7:1 in favour of the Russians btw, and these are conservative estimations.

>>24458418
>Oryx was the most accurate military history source of any conflict in history

you have severe braindamage

>>24459344
Fins and Swedes are notoriously weak fags (just like the Germans) and their military sucks cock, nobody cares, contrary to Ukraine.

>>24459355
>Also think about what he's saying.
This is not what he was saying. It's about killing off all of the remaining Ukrainian manpower you stupid cunt. Even if Russia captured the capital or the whole of Ukraine in one day they would still have to deal with an army of 500.000 combat experienced men who need to be taken care of. Considering the fact that thousands of Ukrainians are surrendering and deserting every week, the number's dropping at a fast pace though.

>>24459399
>calling Orthodoxy a sect
I fucked your mother on your father, does this make your father a cuck or a faggot?

>>24459598
Redneck faggot, minorities in the US are raping your women and burning people alive in the New York subway but you complain about other nations?
To clarify: the bastard abducted is a member of the Armenian diaspora who has been insulting the Chechen culture and their religion for multiple years online without any consequences and the Russian government not acting on their own law protecting the religious beliefs of all ethnicities, so they took matters in their own hands. Of course you wouldn't understand since you're a cuck and can't even defend your own borders.

How about we speak about the abduction, torture and killing of Ukrainian citizens by the Zefag regime for refusing to die for his corrupt regime?

>>24459731
>thinking GDP is a reliant indicator for how much Ukrainians the Russian economy can kill
Faggot, your shithole of a country has a national debt of $36,215,387,082,191, decent houses not built out of cardboard cost at least 1 mill in a decent area not including property taxes, you can get shot by some fucking low IQ imbecile at any moment, your children are in permanent danger of getting school'shot, and most people have been absolutely wrecked by the recession you're in shopping at walmart. Still you manage to suck Israel's cock on a daily basis sending BILLIONS of taxpayer money over to the jews. You're the only nation openly supporting a genocide and oligarchs shitting on your president online for the whole world to see. You're not in the position to shit talk other countries you worthless shitbag.