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Anonymous No.24455672 [Report] >>24455679 >>24455954 >>24456389 >>24456394 >>24456445 >>24456777 >>24456870 >>24456900 >>24456909 >>24459134 >>24460197
if nobody likes your writing it's probably because it sucks.
Anonymous No.24455679 [Report]
>>24455672 (OP)
Nobody has pretty good taste tho
Anonymous No.24455680 [Report] >>24455682 >>24455749 >>24459157
>post my wip on /wg/
>someone asks me to de-anonize so they can find it once it's out
I guess I don't have this problem
Anonymous No.24455682 [Report] >>24455751
>>24455680
as a permanent /wg/ degen this shit did not happen
Anonymous No.24455749 [Report] >>24455751
>>24455680
post up on /lwc/ and let's get a taste
Anonymous No.24455751 [Report] >>24456767 >>24457159
>>24455682
Except I can easily prove you wrong
>>24451155

>>24455749
No, I'll only submit to /nlwc/
Anonymous No.24455954 [Report]
>>24455672 (OP)
But people do
Anonymous No.24455956 [Report]
no shit
Anonymous No.24456389 [Report]
>>24455672 (OP)
Umm no, plebs have shit taste
Anonymous No.24456394 [Report]
>>24455672 (OP)
Nobody likes my writing because it mocks feminism.
Anonymous No.24456445 [Report] >>24456870 >>24456873 >>24461236
>>24455672 (OP)
I loath that I learned advanced vocabulary.

It has been nothing but an obstacle to communication over my existence. Phrases and words that are common place in my inner monolog bewilder outside observers when made manifest through the written word and speakers of my native tongue gaze upon my countenance as if I had uttered blasphemies toward alien gods when I speak.

In order to ensure my intent is expressed in such a way that it is easily understood, I find myself using vulgarities and mind dulled phrases that, while effective, increases my misanthropy more and more as time passes.
Anonymous No.24456767 [Report] >>24458890
>>24455751
omg that's way funnier. that anon literally said
>I can see what you're going for but it's not landing
way to gas yourself up with
>someone asks me to de-anonize so they can find it once it's out
the anon didn't even like it
Anonymous No.24456777 [Report]
>>24455672 (OP)
True
Anonymous No.24456870 [Report] >>24457921
>>24456445
Wow, pretentious dweebetus. No one likes that you say? Nooooo..
>>24455672 (OP)
No, no you shut up. It's the demiurge suppressing my power level so my awesomeness remains unexpressed and the universe can't heal.
Anonymous No.24456873 [Report]
>>24456445
kek, new pasta just dropped
Anonymous No.24456900 [Report] >>24456913
>>24455672 (OP)
My problem is that people like my writing but I'm a lazy ass bastard who only works in short bursts.
Anonymous No.24456909 [Report]
>>24455672 (OP)
Fair. If they don't like it, and I learn something, maybe the next work will be better.
Anonymous No.24456913 [Report] >>24457083
>>24456900
Finish the last book, you fat cunt.
Anonymous No.24456949 [Report] >>24456955 >>24457454
I got told my writing is terrible, but they really enjoyed it not sure what to do with that
Anonymous No.24456955 [Report]
>>24456949
You suck, but don' give up because you can get better.
Anonymous No.24457083 [Report] >>24457100
>>24456913
Giant twist: I already did
Anonymous No.24457100 [Report]
>>24457083
Anonymous No.24457111 [Report]
i got zero opinions because i come from the rear end of the world
Anonymous No.24457159 [Report] >>24458890
>>24455751
Your excerpt reads like Pynchon without intelligence or Lovecraft without style.
May be popular with women, but that's like winning a scat tournament with Jeets.
Your writing sucks.
Anonymous No.24457454 [Report]
>>24456949
>I got told my writing is terrible, but they really enjoyed it not sure what to do with that
Best case? You have a firm grasp of plot, pacing. You have good characters and their development, along with plot development and pace. This, would just leave the editing. My last one I discovered, was to avoid any "ly" words when I can find a way around it. Which is usually.
Example.
character looks around LAZILY. Character spoke euphemistically, to explain it. I learned to stop it during the rough draft. I have enough to do on proof and editing passes. Also, it leads to better prose. As I reconstruct around the easy way out, the LY word? I find myself either getting around it, or sometimes hitting upon a little gem.
"The character eyed me warily."
might become...
"The character's eyes scanned me from time to time, with wary interest. I felt as if I were a UPC code sticker, going past the tracking laser at a self checkout. I know my cost isn't being ascertained. I'm just being sized up for any possible threat. I know I have no such designs, but I have to wait with infinite patience until they satisfy themselves of my benevolence."
(note: "with patience", instead of creating another "patiently")
This brought me up onto another plateau.
Anonymous No.24457921 [Report] >>24458171
>>24456870
>No one likes that you say?
A prime example. Allow me to translate.

Learning big words was a dumb fuck idea. Mother fuckers just stare at you like a golf fish when you use them and I wind up having to talk like a dipshit so people understand me. At no point did I say "no one likes that" or that I come off as "pretentious". The point was trying to use longer words just confuses retards like you and makes me bad at communicating to the point it was a waste of my god damn time.
Anonymous No.24458090 [Report] >>24458111 >>24458717
I sometimes wonder where people's disconnect comes with them being unable to realize they aren't good at something. You see it in every hobby or interest. Look at all the people trying out to sing for those singing audition shows.

I maintain the biggest problem is that people are dishonest. With themselves and their friends and family. If your friends or family suck at something, it is your duty to let them know.

Don't have them out there looking foolish. Never be afraid to crush people's retarded dreams. Potential isn't a real thing. You have talent or you don't.
Anonymous No.24458111 [Report]
>>24458090
Because people observe the worst and tell themselves that no matter how bad they are, they can do better than that guy. The problem is that they really cannot, and worse they don't really try hard enough to accomplish anything special. It's like seeing a cripple MMA bout and convincing yourself you can beat Tom Aspinall.
Anonymous No.24458171 [Report]
>>24457921
No one is confused, retard, except for you. I was the one that interjected no one likes that and that you came off as pretentious you actual fucking troglodyte. Get your head out of your ass.
Anonymous No.24458717 [Report] >>24459140
>>24458090
>You have talent or you don't
I don't agree with this statement. I hear it a lot, in artistic endeavors. Its not pure bullshit, but i find it disingenuous. It implies and infers, that one simply has this supposed 'talent', or not. On that note and following that logic? It leads ont to think that the ability to write well, is some matter conferred at birth. Like height or eye color. Which is of course pure rubbish. Take any famous author, one widely held to be awesome. They could just as easily been born into some situation, where they weren't taught to read and write. WHere is this supposed innate "talent", I ask you. So no, that talented author, must first learn to read and write. Next, suppose they were literate, but weren't encouraged to read a lot. Then there's the matter if they did read a lot, what did they read. If mom got them hooked on romances, its hardly the best diet. Finally, after all those things. We come to writing itself. Do they just sit down and BANG! out comes the best fantasy trilogy, ever? Pffft,
It is true, that with talent, they will advance quicker. Yet, only with studying and learning that craft. Itell you, a person with great talent? Oftn times is so egotistical and full fo themselves, they quickly think they know everything and go off half cocked. A lesser talented writer, that dedicates long time and hard work studying... can surpass them if they rest on their laurels.
Its a RANGE, not a discrete on or off situation. The less talent, the more work and longer time it will take. The hill to be climbed is longer and steeper. SO while there is "talent', its only one of several ingredients, and its debatable if its even the most important ingredient, or what proportion it gives. Its a vital ingredient, but hardly the entire picture. Its not a lie, but its not even a half truth. people that get pissed and turn that into an ax to grind? Often times go off and come back ten years later, and everyone says "wow".
Anonymous No.24458728 [Report]
writing is too much work. especially if you aren't delusional or gifted.
archaicpen No.24458750 [Report]
Writing fiction is an art form, yes, but that too you can learn. Like any other craft you can learn how to write well. Read other writers, the one you like, not the "great ones". Try to imitate them. Steal like an artist, don't copy them.
Over time you should built up a certain style, your own style. I think people will notice than authenticity, and some will resonate with your style and they will like it.
Anonymous No.24458890 [Report] >>24459160
>>24456767
>tall poppy syndrome
cope, bucket crab

>>24457159
I'm more of a dumb DeLillo or a graceless W. Chambers. If you read a little more than /lit/ meme authors your digs might sting a little better
Anonymous No.24459134 [Report]
>>24455672 (OP)
A bait thread this lazy needs way more replies but the effort some of you have put in already is embarrassing enough. I fucking love /lit/
Anonymous No.24459140 [Report]
>>24458717
You're right but you're dignifying "there's no point in trying" with a response, on 4chan, the website where all sincerity, conviction, hope or positive change is a personal attack on every single user. I admire your persistence but only so much, these people don't want your help.
Anonymous No.24459157 [Report]
>>24455680
>>someone asks me to de-anonize so they can find it once it's out
>It's an "anon falls victim to flattery and totally lets his guard down and gives his real name to a random anon on 4chan who actually hated your writing so much that he plans to collect as much information as he can with the limited and seemingly harmless bits and pieces that you give him under the impression that he's a fan of your work so he can eventually find where you live and where you work and kill you with a hammer" chapter
We've all had one of these before.
Anonymous No.24459160 [Report]
>>24458890
>cope, bucket crab
the anon literally said your work "didn't land". and you took that as him praising you. get a grip man
Voluntary Fool No.24460195 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM
Anonymous No.24460197 [Report]
>>24455672 (OP)
>if the tv tells me you had an idea do you want ME to post it?
Anonymous No.24461236 [Report]
>>24456445
>the written word and speakers of my native tongue gaze upon my countenance
this reads like shit
aim for beauty, for good rhyme and beat